Long-term anxiety

@cummingrainbows 

Thanks for chiming in ! I do think it's a combination of several things, and surely some calms seas orgasms happen with very little contraction or overall movement. A trance state alone could do it. I guess the proof is in the pudding, and it's hard to argue with results, yet it's still fascinating to see all the different ways orgasms can be triggered and experienced.

@titoh 

I'm glad to hear you have managed to quit for 2 months already, and I know how strong and addictive these THC-enhanced orgasms can be, so that's a fantastic step in the right direction ! Well done ! 

From what I know, mainly from reading r/leaves and from personal experience, you'll see improvement spread over several months after quitting. If you consider that you have really "abused" your dopamine system, which is an idea more associated with hard drugs, then some researchers say that it could take as long as 18 months to get back to baseline. Of course you might start to feel normal earlier than that, and I'm obviously not a specialist in any shape or form, but I feel that it's necessary to play the long game here, as noticeable gains can still be made even after 6+ months. 

@titoh

Sorry, I was lurking on this thread and saw some parallels with my own journey, so here's my tuppence:

I have generalized anxiety, major depressive, and obsessive compulsive disorders, among other things. SSRIs were the first type of treatment I was put on as a teenager, and I reacted very badly to them. I ran the gamut of different SSRIs and they were all bad. Wellbutrin (Bupropion) is an atypical anti-depressant and the first one I was on that didn't make me feel like a zombie, and sexual side-effects were minimal (there are some indications that it actually helps with arousal, in women at least). Sorry if that sounded like a commercial, but it was literally a life-saver for me.

Also, it appears that cannabinoids can interact with SSRIs, including Lexapro. This may explain some of your symptoms. I'm not a psychiatrist, just observing that there are other options besides SSRIs, depending on the recommendations of your doctor and your medical history. It's still a good idea to give up weed, though.

On another topic, @zentai and @cummingrainbows were discussing how calm seas Super Os can be triggered by trance and minimal contractions alone. I'm convinced that deep trance and Super Os have similar underlying mechanisms. I spent about 10 years learning how to hypnotize myself and meditate before I knew prostate orgasms were a thing, so my progress towards the Super O was quite rapid once I understood that connection.

Having a hypnotic "admin console" was one of the first triggers I installed when starting the Aneros journey. It's probably the deepest trigger that I have, and it is always available and effective. Anyone who's ever "died" in a dream probably knows what I mean by that - it's like a self-preservation mechanism that overrides whatever the subconscious mind is doing, and often involves waking you up. THC + Aneros + hypnosis are like a speedball for waking nightmares - the hell you spoke of. Maintaining a sliver of executive control seems like a good compromise to mitigate the risks. If you ever have to "wake yourself up" from a particularly intense session, this is one way to do it.

Posted by: @firewire

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THC + Aneros + hypnosis are like a speedball for waking nightmares - the hell you spoke of. Maintaining a sliver of executive control seems like a good compromise to mitigate the risks. If you ever have to "wake yourself up" from a particularly intense session, this is one way to do it.

I agree, I have a strong feeling that there is a synergy or perfect storm scenario here. While I've always had anxiety and started early with hypnosis and Super-Os, I never experienced any bad outcomes over years of sessions, often 3-4 times a week or even daily. 

After introducing cannabis, things spiraled down very quickly. While it might not be an issue for some people, it's probably the greatest of all the risk factors when talking about potential side effects from Aneros use. 

Posted by: @zentai

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After introducing cannabis, things spiraled down very quickly. While it might not be an issue for some people, it's probably the greatest of all the risk factors when talking about potential side effects from Aneros use. 

Agreed completely. I intentionally use edibles with a high CBD to THC ratio, and not enough to make me feel high, just slightly buzzed. The objective is to use the minimum dosage that will assist in dropping deeply into trance, which is surprisingly low despite my tolerance. Overall the quality of SOs are not a function of THC dosage; there seems to be a bit of a conditioned response that is magnified by the hypnosis. It does take significant self-control to not abuse, though; in the "honeymoon phase" I admittedly tried higher doses and paid for it (see below). Ultimately I hope to cut the edibles out completely; I feel like they cheapen the experience somewhat.

Posted by: @clenchy

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out of nowhere I had the feeling that "this is going too deep, we have to stop, right now"

Yup, been there. I think it's the "call of the void" - it's distinctly different than ego death or feeling one with the universe. It was a certain type of dread, existential and Lovecraftian. I felt that I'd encountered something I wasn't meant to. There was also (at the time) an epiphany of sorts, with horrific cosmic implications. This thread is probably not the venue for it, but I'm open to comparing notes if anyone's interested.

I've also had the ego-dissolving, eternal bliss SOs, so I tend to rationalize the dichotomy as a product of my mental state at the time, kind of like Scrooge dismissing the ghost of Marley as a product of what he had for dinner.

@clenchy 

You did the right thing.

In my experience the THC + Super-O + altered or trance state @firewire mentioned can play in such a way that you just don't care. Curiosity is too strong, arousal is too great and inhibitions are down, maybe you want the adrenalin rush of the perceived risk... there are several scenarios where you end up just going ahead even if you know that you should not. In a certain way, I guess it would be like willingly chasing a bad trip. You most probably avoided a very uncomfortable experience.

Posted by: @firewire

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Yup, been there. I think it's the "call of the void" - it's distinctly different than ego death or feeling one with the universe. It was a certain type of dread, existential and Lovecraftian. I felt that I'd encountered something I wasn't meant to. There was also (at the time) an epiphany of sorts, with horrific cosmic implications. This thread is probably not the venue for it, but I'm open to comparing notes if anyone's interested.

Oh yes, I used the exact same term while describing this, "the call of the void". Agreed on the Lovecraftian bit, I had some realizations that I would have preferred not to have. At least when the session is done, and the mind filters come back on, it's possible to take a step back and think that maybe the ideas come mostly from the altered states and do not represent reality.  

@zentai 

Hmm, mind if I PM you in a little while? This is rather intriguing.

@firewire 

PMs are always open ! 

Also had one wild session on THC I had to stop. Things were going amazing. Best ever.... 

Had what I felt like was my soul being sucked out of my penis. Like an intense vacuum cleaner of pleasure being sucked right out of me.... that lasted for awhile but then it moved up and up and next thing it felt like the soul of my body was bring sucked out thru my mouth. (Think of the dementors from Harry potter).

I quickly stopped the sessiom after that. 

But so many positive sessions vs 1 negative.