Kundalini & Aneros: a genuine meditation state?

@Jazzer, I definitely agree.

@theplaything you are lucky, been trying for months to have a lucid dream! No luck so far.

@smudgefish you have to get into the habit of doing reality checks when you are awake. And doing other ones other than looking at your hands and counting your fingers.

@Jazzer

going a tad off topic...lucid dreams, I have those.

I don't think it is off topic. Like I said above, to me all of these things are related. It all goes back to the energy body.

@theplaything you are lucky, been trying for months to have a lucid dream! No luck so far.

Try adding extra omega 3 oil to your diet. & like theplaything said, set triggers. Identify a common element in your dreams if you can remember one & set a trigger for it. So if you regularly dream of a certain thing or place, ask yourself if you are dreaming every time you come across it in real life.This will form a habit & it will only be a matter of time before that trigger goes off while you are dreaming. Then you will become lucid.

Tried all that. Had an app that reminded me to reality check every 30mins used it for weeks but gave up eventually it just wasn't working. Done All day Awareness, tried WILD, FILD, MILD, writing induced, dream journalled religiously and worked out various triggers, you name it, used to be a regular on dreamviews and used their academy forum. Also meditated to set intention. Totally gave up in the end.

@Jazzer this is all related. Very interesting thread on Dao Bums last year on the Jhanas and how they are very much like orgasm http://thedaobums.com/topic/37994-the-first-jhana/, it's a long one! Maybe a jhana and a super-o are one and the same thing?

@smudgefishThanks. Very interesting.
Maybe it is the same. Different routes to the same thing.

@Manipura, did you say you had "15 years
of tai-chi practice with a traditional Chinese teacher trained in
Taiwan" or was that your teacher or someone else? I'm interested in relating my experience with tai chi, qigong, wuji and zhan zhuang meditation to your extensive experience with kundalini yoga. I know that the traditions are different but our experiences seem so different. I'm a novice with the Chinese system but since starting with aneros can feel my chi move externally and internally. I attribute this to awakening my root and/or sacral chakras by riding aneros. However I've never had any experience like kundalini as you describe it. You have an exquisite knowledge of your internal physiology and energy system. Did that come from meditation? What's your take on the differences between the two systems?

Hi
What would be a good book to start kundalini yoga?

I have heard about Awakening Kundalini: The Path to Radical Freedom (2013 - Lawrence Edwards) and also Kundalini Rising: Exploring the Energy of Awakening (2009 - Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa).

Thanks

Kundalini yoga is one way to awaken kundalini energy but the books you've listed look to be more about the energy than the yoga.What exactly are you looking for?

I am just curious about Kundalini and am willing to study and practice kundalini (and maybe then apply it during my aneros sessions). I am looking for a book that could help me understand and practice something Kundalini related (yoga or energy, what would be the best?).
Thanks

Do a search for Kundalini Emergencies (there are some very worrying accounts of Kundalini Awakenings gone wrong out there leading to chronic headaches, psychosis, etc) and read about what a Kundalini Awakening can be like, it is a powerful force - even at its best it is very intense and overwhelming, at worst it can be painful and frightening, and it can turn your world upside down. Only go looking for it if you are prepared for what you might find, and/or get a teacher and be taken through it properly.
There are more gentle ways of becoming enlightened through simple meditation and study.

Thanks for your warning.


I am reading energy orgasms by Ron james. It says "I should also mention that Bliss Energietics is a non-forced method, on which follows a water path rather than a fire path. We do not force, we allow, so there is no risk of energetic imbalances".


I actually felt some kind of positive feelings when practicing one exercice described in this book (breathing through prostate : imagine the air going into the perineum (while inhaling) and breathe out from your perineum (while exhaling)). I believe other exercices and more generally the method described in the book involves some kind of energy shift. I suppose this is a soft technique, far from kundalini awakening and kundalini emergencies. Do you confirm there is no risk ?



Once I master those exercices I am planning on using them with aneros.


"There are more gentle ways of becoming enlightened through simple meditation and study."
Would you have some books to advice ?
I took this online course and was very satisfied : http://palousemindfulness.com/selfguidedMBSR.html

No, I'm sure you are safe doing that. I thought you were interested in Kundalini yoga and activation.

I'm no expert, but following my Kundalini Syndrome I read a lot.

Your book sounds interesting, A-less is very similar to energy orgasm. The technique of breathing through the perineum really does work well I've done it myself and orgasmed with it. Also imagining a ball of sexual energy below the perineum and building that is very similar.

There's lots of different techniques to gain enlightenment, although it doesn't happen overnight, and I have read that there have only been about 5 fully enlightened people alive in the world ever (most of the great religious leaders, the Buddha, Jesus etc), again I only have an interest and don't expect to ever become enlightened myself. I sort of follow the Buddhist way of meditation (although I'm not a Buddhist) which can lead to enlightenment but requires a lot of effort in life in general - look into Buddhist Meditation, The Four Noble Truths, and the Eightfold Path, as well as the Jhanas. Mindfulness is of course a Buddhist concept.
Daoism is another way but I don't know much about that. Hatha Yoga is more related to Kundalini. Also Shamanism is very popular at the moment.
All of this of course has little bearing on Aneros use. Kundalini is much more linked because it's all to do with energy channels and activation, hence much more direct and powerful.

I had been using the Progasm for about a year and things were going smoothly; the sensitivity and orgasms were getting better and better and I was learning to clear my mind more. One night during a session, things changed. Instead of a "normal" orgasm where you peak and come down, I steadily became more calm and felt tremendous peace and gratitude. That wasn't what I expected, but it was wonderful.

After that, I started having headaches, feeling restless, and just felt off. I also had a tingling sensation in my lower back, perineum, and sacrum. I thought I wasn't getting enough sleep or something (which was also true), but I started looking into things more because things got worse. I started drinking an unhealthy amount and it wasn't looking good.

Before researching , I had never heard of Kundalini, had never done yoga before, and absolutely did not believe anything about chakras. However, the more I read and watched, the more I convinced I became. Eventually, I started Hatha Yoga and meditation and things became so much better. The headaches, depersonalization/panic attacks and binge drinking stopped. I stopped worrying about what others think so much. If I was forced to identify myself, maybe pansexual or bisexual would be a fit because I have become so much more open about sensuality and sexuality. I also realized that all these years, not only had I never had a real orgasm, but I didn't even know what one was or what it was for. I grew up as a Southern Baptist and hadn't prayed in years, but now I pray almost everyday.

After starting yoga, at first my sacrum hurt, but I read than it was because of weakness in my lower spine. I also read that my energy channels were blocked. As far as I'm concerned, but explanations are two different ways of looking at the same problem, but I found a solution that worked. At first I was really afraid because I can't go into a monastery because I have people I need to take care of, but so far I have been balancing my practice with everything else.

All of this happened because I wanted to avoid prostate problems in the future because of family history.

@Manipura thank you for your observations they correlate very much with my thoughts, although you seem to know very much more about this topic than I do. The similarities between aneros and different yoga practices are interesting, and I think the benefits are also similar.

I am surprised that you have not had more comments on this thread.

One thing I have always wondered, and you might have some insight on this, is how similar is the multiple orgasm to the state of first jhana? It is something I have yet to experience but from my reading about it there are many similarities.

I wrote my post before reading anything in the thread, but I took a look at the jhana and it looks like I reached number 2 by accident. That's why I feel that classifying the Aneros as just sex toy misses the point.

@kuromimi there have been numerous posts similar to yours since I have been a member here, you have probably seen them. Your story is somewhat similar to mine, although I was just looking to master multiple orgasms, next thing I'm meditating and searching for the meaning of life and attending a Buddhist Sanga (didn't last long that one though).

It's certainly given me a different view on life and I'm not complaining.

There's unfortunately a prevailing view that classifying the aneros as anything other than just a sex toy would put people off using it. It was discussed last year. I wonder what the percentage of users having these 'spiritual' experiences is? I wouldn't be surprised if it was a high percentage, no greater than 5% perhaps, but greater than 2%.

Here is a brief discussion of the stages of Kundalini process:

1. Preparatory Phase
2. Entering the Central Channel
3. Ascent past the Heart, Throat, and Third Eye-related blockages
4. Repairing the Crown
5. Entering an Upper Channel
6. Opening to Brahmarandhra, Bindu

Aneros creates the action for an automatic mulabandha, a gentle grip around the anal ring muscles and pelvis floor that brings a wide array of pleasure and energy experiences. You can use Aneros as an aide to entering the central channel or practice achieving Aneros-like awareness without the prop in place.

Correct, relaxed breathing happens almost automatically in Aneros experience. Soft, belly breathing helps to build the energy to locate the entrance to the central channel. Build a visual image of everything you experience as a larger and larger zone of sensation surges and climbs the pelvis, abodminal cavity, autonomic nervous system and spine.

Get used to the surging sensations, spontaneous movements, thrusting, postures, breath retention, and bliss as indicators of energy working into channels and rewiring changes getting underway. These are genuine kriyas - spontaneous movements. Kundalini is decribed as shakti - spontaeous, active inner, tranformative, autonomous energy awareness. Try your partner-sex relying on predominantly spontaneous movements with your eyes closed to help create an image of the channels that move through both of you. Two spinal columns, a linear accelerator, her mini-orgasms pass into you and activate; your mini-orgasms activate her; larger waves pass through the both of you simultaneously.

When you want to follow kundalini skip the ejaculation so that the prostatic, seminal, testicular fluids and hormones keep these areas espanded and ready for the search for your inner channel. You don't lose much time with Aneros since the prop starts the process again so reliably; typical kundalini instruction is to not meditate for 24 hours after ejaculation. Without Aneros it is hard to feel that the rocket-launching equipment is properly deployed and configured.

Just doing soft breathing with Aneros to build energy and awareness expanding from what converges at the prostate and anal ring... counts. Tilt your chin to feel the voice-box move. That's jalandhara bandha - the upper "lock". Building energy between mula bandha and jalandhara bandha is the traditional description of the preparatory phase.

2. Entering the Central Channel.

Finding the gateway, awakening kundalini, moving the boulder, entering the channel - - - this is the trickiest stage. If we can work out a way to reliably enter sushumna via remote instruction we will be giving Mankind an important gift at a pivotal time. No assured answers here right now. Let me know what works for you.

Kundalini arousal - but no channel; kundalini arousal but entering vajra channel - more intense sex and charisma but more up and down, no stable ascent; kundalini arousal but entering saraswati channel - more inspiration, creativity and learning but no stable ascent.

Kundalini entering sushumna channel - the easy way - ascent moves fairly quickly. Kundalini enters citrini channel- ascent moves very slow but very thoroughly throughout the many channels. Kundalini enters Brahmi nadi - ascent is very quick.

3. Ascent past the Heart, Throat and Third Eye-related blockages.

There is so much energy released with penetration to sushumna that relatively few people seem to stay stuck at Swadisthana of Manipura, the navel and solar plexus level chakras. Those who get into vajra - the sex channel - may have to repair the "vajra ring" structure, energy rings around the level of the hips, heart, shoulders and crown. Try grasping and squeezing these levels and see if you can feel or see (with your eyes closed) the energy boosts going upward.

At the heart there is a block called the crystal cap that opens when energy surges up the central channel. There is also a more complicated energy structure, top half/lower half, petals in front/petals in back, horizontal channel across just the top of the heart, and two additional heart-related chakras. Emotional injuries at this level take some time to heal. The size and consistency of your energy and awareness can help this heal faster - especially when guided and assisted.

At the throat there are 16 petals, numerous side channels that descend, and a few channels that ascend to the inner and outer corners of the eyes. Emotional injuries at this level take time to heal. the upward spiraling energy - udana vayu - is a good thing to feel as this level clears.

There are many levels just below and around the third eye chakra that make this more difficult. The "diamond cap" gives a hint of that. Nose bone/ethmoid/sphenoid physical jamming can delay progress here.

Once the Third Eye opens there is a horizontal channel that is open beyond the space between the eyebrows. The Tibetans write about this a lot; the Egyptian diagrams show this. The frontal bones separate into left and right - as they are in childhood before age 8; this is when using Ayurvedic oil on the head is most needed to prevent headaches.

4. Repairing the Crown

This isn't written about much except in Kundalini Vidya by Joan Harrigan and Swami Chandrasekharanand. (kundalinicare.com). It turns out that some people may clear in two years; some people may take nine years or longer; some people may get stuck here. We are probably going to want to talk more, a lot more, about that. This phase takes much longer even when going well.

One of our core questions will be whether Aneros can keep this clearing process going. I suspect it can.

5. Entering an Upper Channel

Sushumna does not go all the way through to the top of the head. So after enough brain repair has happened we start looking for one of the two upper channels - citrini and brahmi - that are more narrow than sushumna. See Kundalini Vidya or Vijnana Bhairava, translated by J. Singh for descriptions.

There are several stages and steps of clearing in this upper process. These help clear the thousand petals. Each upper step brings you to a deeper meditation. In one phase you find a horizontal plane above your eyebrows which shows you the proper head level angle for quieter quiet. At another phase you may feel a triangle path racing from the pineal to the pituitary, then up and back down.

6. Opening to Brahma-randhra

The final step of building energy to open the second "third eye" that looks straight up and receives information from above is a twelve-petal flower that sits just below or just above the top of the brain. Starting at 12 o'clock you can trace an imaginary petal for each numbered position of the clock face.

Try that in your Aneros experience. See what you can feel that surges to the top of your brain.

The cerebro-spinal fluid pulse enters a narrow channel after entering the base of the skull. This takes it diagonally up and forward into the third ventricle - the fluid pocket in the center of the brain. This is the endorphin zone. If you follow the surge back up you can augment endorphin experience here. The pineal gland is open to the fluid here. The pituitary gland moves up and down like a little piston insideits bony pocket about an inch behind the forehead here. Let me know if you feel sensations in this area.

The cerebro-spinal fluid is pumped also up over the top of the brain. You may be able to feel that... and even the fluid trickling down into the folds of the cortex of the brain.

The Brahmi-nadi breathing practice is to inhale and exhale along the midline of the skull from between the nose to the top of the head, from the top of the head to the back of the head - - - and then from the back of the head back to the top of the head and forwards to the space between the brow.

This helps open the metopic suture line, the sagittal suture line - like opening the crack in a walnut skull. Use some oil on the head when you practice this.

Brief discussion? Man, if you haven't done it already you should write a book!Amazing post!

@Manipura, did you say you had "15 years
of tai-chi practice with a traditional Chinese teacher trained in
Taiwan" or was that your teacher or someone else? I'm interested in relating my experience with tai chi, qigong, wuji and zhan zhuang meditation to your extensive experience with kundalini yoga. I know that the traditions are different but our experiences seem so different. I'm a novice with the Chinese system but since starting with aneros can feel my chi move externally and internally. I attribute this to awakening my root and/or sacral chakras by riding aneros. However I've never had any experience like kundalini as you describe it. You have an exquisite knowledge of your internal physiology and energy system. Did that come from meditation? What's your take on the differences between the two systems?

Thanks. You are lucky to feel chi moving externally and internally; that is a real achievement. Inhaling and exhaling with/around/through/via the prostate gives me a powerful boost - trying that for the first time thanks to this discussion.

I've been with the same Tai Chi/ Kung Fu teacher from Taiwan for 35 years. His traditional teaching style is to show the form in precise detail and leave the student to discover the inner experience. I had a Tae Kwon Do/Hapkido black belt first so I didn't think much of kung fu as a fighting style; our school was more of a theatrical art. But we practiced from the outset the fighting applications of tai chi and I found it powerful to build to build internal strength and external projection; that meant my form was too stiff. I took a twenty year break and concentrated on Iyengar yoga then came back - after learning Chinese medicine organ systems from my wife's clinical work and textbooks.

Tai Chi, Hatha Yoga, kundalini and tantra all require an open central channel to make substantial progress. Chi, prana, shakti are all biophysical energy - more magnetic, in my opinion, than chemical. The basic scientific concept is that plants absorb a photon at a particular frequency of light - and that excites an electron to a higher orbital. Electron transport in animals has a similar packet of energy. But the magnetic field around each cell, around each organelle in the cell, around the gel-like cluster of water molecules is more palpable.

Field changes are closer to what I think we experience. In tai chi the palms in front of the heart are the medium-sized magnets playing with the heart magnet. Up and down.. you feel the field lines; in and out you stretch and compress the fields. The Grand Circulation connects the central channel to the three sets of meridians - 1) lung/large intestine, stomach/spleen - which lifts the front of the body and organizes walking forward. 2) heart/small intestine, bladder/kidney which grounds the back of the body and organizes turning. 3) pericardium/sanjiow, gallbladder/liver which creates inner stability front/back and organizes kicking and jumping.

I can't find something like that in a book in English - though I assume that in Chinese these sort of connections were and are known. There are more forms of chi and jing in Chinese medicine than there are pranas in Ayurveda. Our favorite chi is yuan chi - the energy that brings life to the blood. That's cortisol to me - the golden molecule that opens the genetic control panel in each cell and brings a million year-old intelligence to bear inside and and out. When you breathe in and out through your kidneys, anchoring the chi, the tingling, warm, relaxing feeling is spreading out of the adrenals and goes anywhere in the body that the cells are calling for it. We morph... more than we know.

Prana tends to be described as where the oxygen goes after you inhale it - the gross movement - and the blood carries it during the exhalation throughout your body - like into your finger pads and finger tips. With enough prana the cell pump up and the organs function better. Build prana with a soft belly breath and all the pressures in the body regulate.

Shakti, in the Kundalini system, is distinguished by awareness, autonomy, and hunger. The energy that moves through the body, once awakened in the central channel is learning how you are, it is changing that to healthy, and it is female - a She - that is eager to take you to higher consciousness and merge. Shiva, the big, passive awareness of everything, self-generated... is tickled by her adding to his pleasure.

Our Kundalini guru was sad to tell us that the key, inner experiences and the ability to teach them had been lost from nearly every religion and spiritual tradition. We had to rediscover them and bring those traditions back alive. Each new person that opened the central channel found themselves attracted towards one or another mystery school traditions and the adepts who had been waiting for us. That pleased him - - - Native American here, Egyptian there, Tibetan over there, Kabbalah... etc...

I would like to hear a lot more about your tai chi, chi gung, wu ji, zhan zheung experiences and more.

I like the idea that the root and sacral areas have awakened by riding aneros. Like riding a Tiger. or riding a boat.

Vum is the front petal of the root chakra - - - it is like an anchor to me. Zum is like putting a root down. Shum is rocking the sacrum into the cranio-sacral rhythym. Sum is like pulling back a slingshot and flying upwards. Bum and Lum vibrate the gonads so intensely it is hard to stand the heat with Aneros nearby. B'hum and Rum are like hip checks - aggressively clearing some space around you, Mum and Yum are the kidney healers that bring the rest of the body to ease.

Try the sounds with Aneros and feel what you feel. To get to Kundalini stage imagine a straw running from inside the sacrum up to the top of the head. It is not different from Tai Chi instruction - needle at Sea Bottom up to Suspended as if By a Thread. From the bottom breath into the straw. With each breath travel up a little more and let the body around that height relax.

Close the switches, build the dams, gently squeeze, tilt the head... and imagine a smaller tube inside the straw. Go into that and feel a liquid pulse surging upward. Watch what happens at the top of the pulse. Does it get into the head? Can it make it through the narrow inch at the level of the ears to the endorphin home above the eyes?

Happy travels inward. If the sparks fly or the lights come on... or something throws you to the ground... fear not!

Thank you for all your great insights.....I sometimes feel we are cheating with the aneros but enlightenment can not be stopped in this internet age.

Occasionally someone in seed form - who has never had any energy experience - gets driven by life-threatening trauma to break out and rushes upward to escape. Don't go into the furnace, the hot, downward-blasting chimney of Lakshmi nadi; it is on the right side and it is painful and destructive... so my wife was telling me today about a man who was hit by a truck and was in so much pain that, instead of starting with acupuncture, she took him into the central channel and found he was stuck in Lakshmi. She helped bring him down and out but she is still feeling the excess heat in hands four days later. That doesn't usually happen.

...So, thinking of our forum I asked a few questions. The elevation, sense of presence, electric lightning experience, and view of the chakras Smudgefish described sounded like a Saraswati rising, she said. There are three arcs of the Saraswati rising, each with a knot that can be untied at the root, heart and brow. You got all the way up. Even though it enters the head and opens brain petals kundalini shakti can't get through that way... so it really wasn't you deciding to close it down; it's just what happens on that route. Traveling up and down, Saraswati gives gifts. To avoid exhaustion of going up and down, or getting carried away with the promise of what's to come it was wise to live in moderation, quiet meditation, and build energy.

I pressed Her more about how she helps people get through the gateway. There's a lot of cleaning to do, she said. She had talked before about getting the astrals off the surface of the body; but this was more like cleaning a grate or a grill. If someone is in the seed form the opening of the cave is overhead. In Saraswati the opening of the cave is straight ahead, coming in from the left. Even though the drilling is warm, Sushumna is cool when you reach it and break through.

I was in Saraswati for a long time. I'm going to post the two-bag breathing instructions that came to me as an easy way to build energy and get to a relaxed state to be able to feed a quicker clearing process. It is in a piece I started working on for Wiki-How. But first, here is the traditional mudra/mantra/pranayam that helps you find the diversion gateway from the left in Saraswati:

1) Bring the left palm, opened in a relaxed cup, up in front of the left shoulder. Locking the left elbow into the side shifts more blood up the left carotid and vertebral artery to the left side of the brain.

Bring the four fingertips and thumb of the right hand together and place the right fingertips and thumb in the hollow between the front of the left shoulder and the pectoral muscle.

Close your eyes, balance, inhale and hold your breath, engaging the anal rings and tilting the jaw forward to rest on top of the voicebox.

Allow your body to rock side to side. When you tilt to the left Saraswati nadi presses down and bows inward.

2) Move the fingertips of the right hand to the hollow of the right shoulder. Lock in the right elbow to the right side and feel the pulse going up the right carotid and verterbral arteries to the right side of the brain.

Allow the body to rock side to side with the pulse. As you tilt to the right Saraswati nadi lengthens. Below the kidney, below the navel, feel for the itch where the diversion channel to Sushumna starts.

3) Still holding your breath with eyes closed, move the right fingertips to touch the center of the brow in the hollow between the eyebrows. Feel the body rock forwards and back with each pulse.

This lengthens Sushumna nadi, the central channel. And it lengthens Saraswati nadi, the left channel. Getting them both ready. Before you get panicky about running out of breath...

4) Bring the right hand fingertips back to the left shoulder hollow and exhale. Repeat.

As you exhale... let the breath make the sound HHHaaahhmmm.

Thanks for the comments and discussion. It has been a month and a half since last posting but it seems like a galaxy and a century away. The top of my head became softer, porous to the gentle pressure of exhalation. The top of the brain became a big eyeball ready to look up. In clinical work I began to be able to feel the frontal lobes of the brain more accurately and see what happens to the brain with relatively minor head injury - - - it gets stuck on the midline cartilage and the envelope dries up restricting movement and growth. I think Aneros as a kundalini prop boosted this sort of brain development.

Doing some medical reading tonight on the physiology of what is in the prostate circulation I find there is a lot of information missing. You guys may have better references on from the Prostate/Super-O books that have been published. But it seems there are many growth hormones and neuropeptides in circulation in addition to the sugars and enzymes and acid-alkali secretions.

There are three arteries coming in to the prostate from halfway between the belly button and the top of the leg. A bunch of little branches penetrate like a comb perpendicularly from behind. Other branches come down the center from the bladder/urethra region. And the pulse coming into the seminal vesicle comes down from higher up.

These three circulation pulses have different timings - but with aneros I think they get in synch to start the feeling of big spontaneous directional movements of the prostate and pelvis floor.

There are relatively newly-discovered "neurovascular bundles" that look like erectile tissue behind lateral and anterior to the prostate. Surgeons discovered that impotence and incontinence follow if they damage these neurovascular bundles.

These neurovascular bundles seem to be where the chemical mixing of hormones, endorphins, growth factors and peptides occur. After the prostate surgeons started paying attention to the neurovascular bundles the ob-gyn surgeons started looking for neurovascular bundles around the uterus and in the vagina

In addition there is a big dense basket of pelvic nerve plexus from the pelvic floor up over the posterior surface of the prostate and seminal vesicles. It is mostly vagus nerve parasympathetic to the glandular tissue and adrenaline to the muscle of the prostate and sphincters.

I still think there is a hallucinatory substance in the mix that promotes inner vision of the body. But reading the Business Insider.com/vagus-nerve stimulation-20155-6 article about the vagus nerve turning off inflammatory reactions all over the body... I think prostate function might well cool the spinal cord and brain.

With neuro-inflammation all over the media this past month in schizophrenia and autism and Zika virus we're looking for anti-inflammatories. Has anyone used L-lysine? It supposedly stops herpes viral outbreaks from waking up in the brain.

Kundalini tip for today: the sound "uh" "ah" "uh" "ah" locates from the tip of the "generative organ" on "uh" to the prostate on "ah". Let me know if anyone can feel that.