KSMO questions

dtmsmith,

There are numerous threads on this Forum which discuss the KSMO protocol. I'll leave it to you SEARCH to find others.

Here's a link to Jack Johnston's site where you can get even more information. You can buy a download only or buy the CD & get the download for the same price on Jack's site for $69.95. Seeing as how Jack makes his living off of this, giving you a lifetime membership and support, I think it would be nice if you supported him directly instead of going through middlemen who rake their profit away.

Rumel,
Thanks for the pointers. I agree I should have searched better. I did search for the keyword KSMO but found lots of threads that mentioned it in passing. I just now found the search page that lets you specify "title only". I guess I haven't yet gotten the hang of this new forum. 🙂

OK, I bought the KSMO material last night, listened to it, then retired to the bed to practice. After the first sound I was already feeling something. By the third, I was getting full-body p-waves. I was really surprised things happened so quickly. I ended up masturbating along with it and was able to hold off ejaculation for a little longer than normal. Once I let go, then orgasm was fantastic.
This morning, I did more of it and was able to get very intense p-waves and mini-o's in the first 5 minutes. Also, I used the breathing technique without any sound. The feelings were more full-body that what I've experienced in the past. My aneros-less feelings usually start in my prostate and take a while to get to the rest of my body. And, for some reason, it took much less mental focus to get things going. This stuff is pretty amazing...
I know this is not the KSMO forum so I won't be posting much (if anything) about my KSMO experiences here. I just wanted to follow up on my original question with one update.

dtmsmith,

Congratulations on your results with KSMO, it is indeed amazing! I've been touting it as a "breadth requirement" for one's Super O exploration since my earliest days in this forum. It's terrific when used by itself and invariably optimizes ones session with the Aneros as well.....even if you're not practicing it at the same time. As you found out the breathing techniques alone are very valuable for generating sensations. I might suggest that you use these breathing techniques in conjunction with an Aneros session and see where it takes you. This was one of the things that I used years ago to get myself back on track when I was having inconsistent results with the Aneros by itself. In terms of combining KSMO and the Aneros, I found it most productive to make KSMO my primary focus with the Aneros more or less along for the ride. That is, I inserted it and forgot about it.....allowing the Aneros to respond to the involuntary contractions that KSMO generated.

Enjoy!

BF Mayfield

Thanks BF Mayfield...
I've been playing with the key sound off and on all day. It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous. Next time I have some time for an aneros session, I will definitely combine the two.
By the way, I am completely convinced that it's the aneros that started it all. Had I never inserted this crazy plastic thing in my butt, I may have tossed KSMO aside as a money-making scam.

>It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous.<

Look upon the KSMO as a long-term investment which, if you pursue it seriously, will enhance and underpin, for life, practically any other sexual practice you might wish to engage upon.

Like you, the Aneros device started it all for me, but it never became stratospheric until I became proficient in the KSMO. The KSMO now comprises my primary and preferred exploration route to continuous (literally) orgasm.

Good luck.

Mog

Well dtmsmith! or maybe Mr.Natural!!! 😀 😀

Congratulations indeed. And thanks, rumel, BF and Sir Mog too!!! This thread is at the heart of the real power and magic potential in all of this.

Thanks BF Mayfield...
I've been playing with the key sound off and on all day. It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous. Next time I have some time for an aneros session, I will definitely combine the two.
By the way, I am completely convinced that it's the aneros that started it all. Had I never inserted this crazy plastic thing in my butt, I may have tossed KSMO aside as a money-making scam.

I joined and started practising KSMO soon after starting Aneros three years ago. Contrary to the good advice on both sites, I very soon started combining the practices in my sessions and that is when things REALLY accelerated radically!! And while I have gone back from time to time exploring each separately, once a man masters KSMO, it is so integral to one's body/mind, it really becomes the core practice and can become the always-on, background, full spectrum energies access/direction-intention "arousal with being alive in/to the world".

dtmsmiththese practices seem to come so naturally to you, you may also find that as your system feels "at home" with KSMO, you do not actually need to make the sound out loud to get the effects. Numbers of us at the KSMO site have reported gaining success with the silent KS, initially making the motions in your throat without airflow, and ultimately without any of that either, simply by mental intent (which also neurally replays the accumulated muscle memories). dtmsmith, I hope you will blog and chat and post at KSMO as well!

Aneros is a fabulous key in prostate awakening through the gentle spontaneous path, and/or the muscle memory training path. And the BPH therapy blow-out, "clean the pipes" path!! Thanks BF for your practice overview and you too mog. I concur with you both and mine is essentially the same. It would top off this thread if it catches Pan's eyes too, because he and I have chatted about this a number of times and he too sees KSMO as the core of his multi-discipline practice.

Last fall, family events took me to Victoria BC, near KSMO discoverer/guru and fellow Anerosian Hydraulic Jack's and Jackie's (his artist wife) new home. Jack and I were able to free up 2+ hours to meet and immediately launched into a highly energetic animated conversation that ranged all around ecstatic existence and experience. What a great guy and wonderful friend. A number of KizMosians have initiated a Grand Gathering of practitioners on Vancouver Island this summer and Jack will be leading some workshops sessions, and providing some additional complementary practices, as well as discussing them at the KSMO site.

all the best searching, sampling and integrating the best personal combination of complementary ecstatic body/mind practices all

artform

A great post, art!:)

>It would top off this thread if it catches Pan's eyes too.... Numbers of us at the KSMO site have reported gaining success with the silent KS..<

Me too. I found the Key Sound got me off the ground in the early days but I don't need to use it any more.

Pleased to meet you over in the other side, dtm.:)

Mog

Great thread! I recommend KSMO practice to anyone. It really helped me ramp things up.

I just (now) hopped on the KSMO bandwagon as well.

Great news La petite mort!! 😀 😀

Just welcomed you there!

Just to finish my post above and link rumel's important related thread Are you aroused?, here was my summary paragraph of reply:

Am I "aroused" rumel? Yes my friend, I am, always, all ways. This Aneros practice together with the selected complementary ones I have practised over the years, and more so since beginning with Aneros three years ago, have become a whole being arousal with life's universal generative/creative/sustaining/learning/openning energies, one that the slightest sensory delight in any form, or fleeting flash of memory, can trigger an orgasmic blossoming or explosion, appropriate to the social situation, that has me an always aroused celebrant of all. With gratitude beyond measure...

What I should have said explicitly is that over the last three years, and really in a few months in later 2007 – early 2008, KSMO progress accelerating Aneros, and KSMO on its own was the great catalyst in my/our practice. I have detailed aspects of this in my blog: http://www.aneros.com/displayblog.php?id=3544

all the best catalysing of your ecstatic potentiation all

artform

Sounds great for low level physical stimulation, what if your partner wants some high level stimulation? Will this help keep you from going over the ejaculation edge?

One of the benefits of KSMO practice is that with time and a certain degree of progress (learning to enjoy multiple and extended orgasmic states), you will develop a high tolerance for pleasure and arousal without automatically triggering the various physiological processes (shallow, rapid breathing centered high in the chest, tension in the major muscles groups, etc) which lead inevitably to ejaculation.

However, you (and your partner) will derive the greatest results when you choose to increase the physical stimulation gradually, allowing your body and mind sufficient time to "warm up" into a state of being simultaneously extremely aroused and deeply relaxed - which is the hallmark of any successful KSMO session. Once you achieve this state, you completely bypass "the edge," and will be able to enjoy any level of stimulation for any length of time without ever feeling even the slightest urge to ejaculate, unless of course, you genuinely want to do so. KSMO is not designed for "quickies." But if quickies are what you wish to avoid, then I think you'll find that taking your time in beginning is well worth the investment.

So the most important first step is not about technique, but rather about communication in which you explain to your partner how and why starting slow will ultimately provide both of you with the most orgasmic pleasures as well as the most freedom in terms of the type and amount of stimulation you will be able to provide and enjoy. Simply put, start out slowly enough, and eventually you'll be able to go as hard and as fast for as long as either you wants. Ironically though, most men and their partners find that once they are able to achieve these wonderful, relaxed states of orgasmic bliss, they prefer to linger in those moments, savoring all of the sensations, and in fact, deriving far more pleasure from the slightest movement, touch, or breath than from any length of monotonous "pounding." But yes, pounding away is always an option once a certain degree of mastery has been achieved with the technique.

Of course, it's important to understand that it's best to start by learning how to confidently enter into this multi-orgasmic state on your own before you attempt to lead a partner there with you. KSMO takes time to learn and for many people, it takes just as much time to process all of the new pleasures one suddenly becomes capable of. It can be a little overwhelming, especially if it comes as a surprise.

Pan

Pan and All!! 😀 😀

YES... YES... YES... Timing and communications soon become palpable gentle energies exchanging with your partner, as you start slowly and enable those, best via KSMO, to become your mutual keys to the orgasmic kingdom in all its magnificent variations and possibilities.

See Dr. R. von Urban's BioElectric Sex in the Ramsdale's book: Sexual Energy Ecstasy to assist in sensing the process KSMO facilitates so well. Details in my blog. Link in my post above. Then use your own intuition to fine tune the practice to suit you and your partner, without losing the ability to trigger these vital energies exchanges as part of the glorious slow start.

inward and integrating upward and ecstasies sharing with significance all

artform

i just purchased JJ's seminar and have practiced twice. I'm wondering if I can just integrate it with my Aneros use before I have developed proficiency with the KSMO protocol alone. I have felt a few twinges down there on my second practice session. Maybe us anerosers can jump the line a bit? Or is that a no-no in your opinions?

@Armon-neat: Certainly it’s not a “no-no” to integrate KSMO training with your Aneros use, but one of the reasons most people probably paid for the seminar was to gain knowledge and techniques they didn’t have before. I think there is real value to practicing KSMO by itself, exactly as proscribed in the seminar, at least for a while. You may start to feel some of the same sensations you get with Aneros use. And then you clearly can see that this pleasure is caused by us, not by some external thing.


Even though I initially enrolled in the KSMO seminar years ago, I find it valuable from time to time to stop and go back to “Square One,” that is, listen to the seminar from beginning to end again and see if there are things I’ve misinterpreted or glossed over. And then do actual practice sessions, without Aneros, and without trying to cause something to happen. I found myself falling into a bit of a trap because I was ignoring parts of the protocol, and I now believe it was holding me back. Don’t get me wrong: I was having great sessions, with great pleasure. But as it turns out, there is always more!


Later, when I go back to my usual play sessions or Aneros sessions I often get what I think of as a “boost to the next level.” Much of what we do (this is just my opinion) seems to be recognizing sensations that are already there, focusing on them, and bringing them to consciousness where we can feel and enjoy them.

@Saddleup Thanks so much for your input. I do see quite a bit in common with the A-less type of perineal/prostate you name it stimulation. I have also chatted with rumel (today) and got some of his insights. I do not want to "mess up" my re-re-wiring (so to speak) by integrating my KSMO practice sessions with aneros use or even "Aless". On the other hand, some of the things I was wondering about were whether being an "aneroser" would speed up my KSMO progress, and second, if I should still limit my KSMO sessions to every other day as recommended. I do intend to join the chat and have JJ listen to my vocalization, of course. In any case, I'll probably post my progress somewhere--here or there.