Keys to the Backdoor... revisited

TT

Just thinking about your questions once again. Let me know if my email address appears along with my postings. I'm on a Mac, perhaps the forum appears differently for PC users? Maybe there is a latency factor with this site, that is not evident to me? As I stated earlier, everything seems pretty much "real time" to me?!!

Mayfield

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
TT

Just thinking about your questions once again. Let me know if my email address appears along with my postings. I'm on a Mac, perhaps the forum appears differently for PC users? Maybe there is a latency factor with this site, that is not evident to me? As I stated earlier, everything seems pretty much "real time" to me?!!

Mayfield

Sorry about the confusion. Due to the time between your responses, I assumed (yes, I know about assume; making an 'ASS' out of 'U' and 'ME';...) smile.
I thought maybe you were using your email address instead of your registered name; those postings take several days to post, whereas registered members get their postings posted immediately. You have explained clearly that you may not post a reply each day that explains the time period.
Yes, your email address shows on your postings. Don't know if the forum displays the same for Macs as PCs. If you see your post on the forum as soon as you post it, then they are immediate.
Hope this clears up the question a little bit. If not, let me know.
TechnoTed

The following is a copy of my thread entitled "In Search of the Sweet Spot". Since locating this area is so essential to the building a Super O I felt it would be better placed with my other postings that deal with technique development. - Mayfield

posted: 2003-12-06 15:45:05

Hi All,

My thread entitled "A Key to the Backdoor to Ecstasy" has become quite large (27 posts) so I hadn't noticed several new postings that were recently added on. Because these get tacked on to the end of the thread I think there's a tendency for them to get buried. In particular the postings by TJ and to a certain extent JoJoGunne bring up some interesting points that I wouldn't want anyone to miss regarding locating the "Sweet Spot".

To be clear the "Sweet Spot", as I call it, is not an intensely pleasurable area in and of itself, say like the head of your penis, or the clitoris for women. Touching this spot doesn't necessarily make for a spontaneous orgasm either. It is however an area that is essential for generating the "non-ejaculatory orgasm" or Super O. The "Sweet Spot" is the neural plexus, an area of convergence of a series of collateralizing sensory nerves, nerves that serve the penis anus and prostate. I have described how the area may be most easily found, by finding the rounded ridge on the underside of your penis and following it down to your perineal area and then yielding pressure over the center of it (most easily done when you have at least a modest erection). Alternately you can start an inch from your anus and work your way up. Again it should be in the general perineal area, (if you're on your scrotum you've gone too far!) One should experience a tingling sensation that runs in the center of your penis down to your anus, and prostate somewhat simultaneously.

I have previously stated that the vertical location of this spot was provided by the abutment tab of the Aneros itself and that all one had to be concerned with was finding its' horizontal location. On the basis of TJ's posting (shown below) and my own experimentation over the last month or so, I now believe that my statement was inaccurate. I am now coming to the understanding that the "Sweet Spot" may subject to a lot more individual variation with respect to its location, (vertical and horizontal) than I had previously thought. TJ's comments speak to a higher location on the perineum for the "spot", and in my own case I have recently concluded that it's a lower vertical location than what the standard MGX Aneros provides for. In general, I believe that the Aneros works for many "out of the box" in this regard, but not for all.

So what to do? Well first, find your "spot" (as described above) Once this has been done you'll want to insert the Aneros and find out where the abutment tab touches, relative to the area that you found with your finger.

As TJ has pointed out the Aneros can be adjusted (bent) to increase or decrease the area of engagement slightly. BE GENTLE with it. Experiment, find out what works best for you. Maintaining the horizontal location will always be a little more of a challenge since the perineal area, particularly when it's engorged is irregular in shape (rounded, ridge-like) so the tab will always want to slide to one side or the other. As I've covered previously, if you use a finger or two as guides you shouldn't have any problem. REMEMBER, it's crucial not to let you fingers exert any pressure on the tab while they're guiding it, the tab MUST be powered and responsive to your anal contractions ONLY. It is this that sets up the sensory feedback loop that is essential to generating the Super O.

I apologize if my earlier posting on this subject made it more difficult for anyone to find the "spot", but I trust that you'll understand when I say that my understanding of this phenomenon, (as with life's great mysteries) is still evolving!

B Mayfield

(Since I wrote this thread last year the manufacturer has modified the original Aneros MGX providing the redesigned model with a shorter tighter abutment tab. For many this will make finding ones Sweet Spot an easier endeavor. For those with the original design MGX or "MGX classic" as I call it, modification is still an alternative (see my 1/19/04 entitled "ANEROS MODIFICATIONS" on page 1 of this thread. )

Hey guys...I've had the Aneros for a week now and have not had an orgasm from the Aneros. I have had it in for up to an hour and have no problem getting the involuntary muscle spasms to start but I cannot keep them going. I have got an erection before during use but it doesn't stay around. Am i not squeezing the muscle right, holding too hard or what. I would really appreciate some more pointers or tips so that I may get to the same result as everyone else.
Thanks, Chris

Originally Posted By: B Mayfield
The following is a copy of my thread entitled "In Search of the Sweet Spot". Since locating this area is so essential to the building a Super O I felt it would be better placed with my other postings that deal with technique development. - Mayfield

posted: 2003-12-06 15:45:05

Hi All,

My thread entitled "A Key to the Backdoor to Ecstasy" has become quite large (27 posts) so I hadn't noticed several new postings that were recently added on. Because these get tacked on to the end of the thread I think there's a tendency for them to get buried. In particular the postings by TJ and to a certain extent JoJoGunne bring up some interesting points that I wouldn't want anyone to miss regarding locating the "Sweet Spot".

To be clear the "Sweet Spot", as I call it, is not an intensely pleasurable area in and of itself, say like the head of your penis, or the clitoris for women. Touching this spot doesn't necessarily make for a spontaneous orgasm either. It is however an area that is essential for generating the "non-ejaculatory orgasm" or Super O. The "Sweet Spot" is the neural plexus, an area of convergence of a series of collateralizing sensory nerves, nerves that serve the penis anus and prostate. I have described how the area may be most easily found, by finding the rounded ridge on the underside of your penis and following it down to your perineal area and then yielding pressure over the center of it (most easily done when you have at least a modest erection). Alternately you can start an inch from your anus and work your way up. Again it should be in the general perineal area, (if you're on your scrotum you've gone too far!) One should experience a tingling sensation that runs in the center of your penis down to your anus, and prostate somewhat simultaneously.

I have previously stated that the vertical location of this spot was provided by the abutment tab of the Aneros itself and that all one had to be concerned with was finding its' horizontal location. On the basis of TJ's posting (shown below) and my own experimentation over the last month or so, I now believe that my statement was inaccurate. I am now coming to the understanding that the "Sweet Spot" may subject to a lot more individual variation with respect to its location, (vertical and horizontal) than I had previously thought. TJ's comments speak to a higher location on the perineum for the "spot", and in my own case I have recently concluded that it's a lower vertical location than what the standard MGX Aneros provides for. In general, I believe that the Aneros works for many "out of the box" in this regard, but not for all.

So what to do? Well first, find your "spot" (as described above) Once this has been done you'll want to insert the Aneros and find out where the abutment tab touches, relative to the area that you found with your finger.

As TJ has pointed out the Aneros can be adjusted (bent) to increase or decrease the area of engagement slightly. BE GENTLE with it. Experiment, find out what works best for you. Maintaining the horizontal location will always be a little more of a challenge since the perineal area, particularly when it's engorged is irregular in shape (rounded, ridge-like) so the tab will always want to slide to one side or the other. As I've covered previously, if you use a finger or two as guides you shouldn't have any problem. REMEMBER, it's crucial not to let you fingers exert any pressure on the tab while they're guiding it, the tab MUST be powered and responsive to your anal contractions ONLY. It is this that sets up the sensory feedback loop that is essential to generating the Super O.

I apologize if my earlier posting on this subject made it more difficult for anyone to find the "spot", but I trust that you'll understand when I say that my understanding of this phenomenon, (as with life's great mysteries) is still evolving!

B Mayfield

(Since I wrote this thread last year the manufacturer has modified the original Aneros MGX providing the redesigned model with a shorter tighter abutment tab. For many this will make finding ones Sweet Spot an easier endeavor. For those with the original design MGX or "MGX classic" as I call it, modification is still an alternative (see my 1/19/04 entitled "ANEROS MODIFICATIONS" on page 1 of this thread. )

Gentlemen - I need some help here. I've had my Aneros 3/4 months now and use it pretty regularly - always with the anticipation of good things happening. It's the smaller SGX model. I'm a fit 60 year old, sexually active with no hang-ups about things anal but....I just cannot get this thing to work. I've tried every approach, every type of lubricant, every type of breathing and relaxation as described in the Aneros forums.
I nearly always manage some pleasurable feelings from the prostate massage provided that I do the work - but nothing happens naturally.
Should I think about trying the Larger original MGX model with the shorter tab. Joey

Joey,

Be aware that the SGX and the MGX ( the new version sold on this website) abutment tab specifications are virtually the same. The difference between the two devices is in the size of the body of the massagers. The MGX has a longer and wider body, both of which translate into more prostate engagement (contact). After some initial sessions with the SGX that were promising, I came to feel that I was missing something. I should mention however, that I was able to experience Super O 's with the SGX, albeit not as intensely. (At the time that I had experimented with the SGX, the manufacturer had not yet redesigned MGX.) I have to believe that New MGX is a better fit for most men, particularly for those who are anal vets. The SGX is still a good ice-breaker for those who are new to anal play, or for certain individuals who can't accomodate a larger device.

B Mayfield

A MESSAGE TO ALL USERS

Dear Users,

From here on, I will no longer be adding new topics to this thread. The manufacturer has opened up a new area in this website called BEE LINE that I believe is better suited for that purpose. I strongly urge all of you who are interested in my comments to check it out. The concept of it, as I understand it, is that it's a space that is more informational and a little less chat like in format. In the forum when a thread author generates a topic, there are very often a mix of responses, some of which are on topic and others that are off topic. Not that it's a bad thing per se, but it can be very frustrating to some users, newbies in particular who are trying to find needed information. They are left to try to separate the wheat from the chaff as were, from pages and pages of threads that number in the hundreds at this point.

BEE Line is meant to offer a user quicker access to advice and techniques. To establish BEE Line, they have started by culling from several of my postings in the Keys threads in addition to responses that I've made to other threads in the forum. I've been told that there will be several contributors to start with, and that the number will grow as time goes on.

I encourage anybody with any questions or comments to continue to post to this thread if they so desire. I will continue to respond to comments both here and elsewhere in the forum.

Respectfully,

B Mayfield

P.S. Check out my newest posting on the Super T in BEE LINE !

ANEROS THE NEXT GENERATION - REVIEWED

Sorry guys for taking so long on this, but I had originally wanted to post here and to my own web site at the same time. As it’s been taking a little bit longer than anticipated for development and implementation of the site, I figured I’d start with a condensed version here and offer the more in depth version once I’m on line.

The Next Generation Aneros’ signal a real departure in marketing, form and function. Up until now HIH (the manufacturer of Aneros) has introduced new models (for the western market) one at a time, normally with several years or more in-between. The reason for this is presumably that they were aiming at a one size fits all approach . For those who follow the forum regularly, one thing has become clear; there are certain anatomical variations in all of us that may govern one’s success with one unit or the other. That is, some have found success with the SGX or with the MGX Classic while others have found it with the New MGX.

Rather than making continued improvements on one design path, HIH has broken some new ground by introducing 3 new units all at the same time, 2 of which are geared to meeting more specific needs.

THE MAXIMUS

The Maximus is, as its name implies, the largest unit that has been brought to the western market. Originally dubbed the hammer by Aneros staffers, (for its ball peen hammer appearance), this product clearly out-sizes all the other models with respect to its girth (width/thickness). To give you a rough estimate, it’s probably on the order of about 15% larger at the head, than the MGX. The abutment tab and arm is of the same design as seen in the SGX and NEW MGX models (shorter and closer to the anus than in the MGX Classic). Looking at the base you’ll notice the absence of ribbing (to promote mobility). The overall concept behind this unit is clear; a model for those who were looking for a more filled up sensation.

So does it deliver? Yes indeed it does! No doubt about it, upon insertion one immediately has the sensation of something larger back there. As with all things individual perception on this will be different too. Aneros newbies and those new to anal play will most likely find the Maximus far too large for their purposes. While many anal vets might be saying, is that all there is? . In any event, one must remember that MOBILITY is an absolutely essential component of Aneros function. If the unit is unable to move freely in and out of the anus it will not work properly.

So if you’ve had your troubles accommodating the smaller MGX don’t bother with the Maximus (at least until you’ve opened up a bit). And if you’re an anal vet who’s really into expansion and such, again don’t waste your time…you’ll do better with a large dil or a plug.

So who’s going to benefit from Maximus? The Maximus is best suited for experienced / advanced Aneros users who are looking for a fuller sensation with their Aneros sessions. Such a user should have had previous experience with larger items or a certainly a fair amount of flexibility and the ability to relax easily.

Pros

Delivers a fuller sensation that makes for a really different Aneros experience. (When you come with this one and you begin to clamp down and spasm upon it, you’ll really notice the difference in size…it feels great!)

Cons

One sacrifices a certain amount of agility and focus with this unit. Owing to the disproportionate size of the body and dull rounded shape of the head, the balance seems just a little bit off (again the abutment tab and arm are of the same size as the smaller MGX). As a consequence, there is greater inertia with this unit than the others. So what’s the work-around? In a chance conversation with the Aneros’ inventor, I indicated my concerns and he alluded to the notion that this unit requires more intensive lubrication than the other models. After some experimentation I have found this definitely to be the case. To this task I went back to one of our oldest tricks, mixing oil and water for a really slippery (albeit messy) solution. It’s been terrific ever since.

Final impressions

Between the necessary lube job, the size, weight, and absence of ribs, your rear will get quite a work out trying to move and hold on to this unit. When all is said and done however, the Maximus is good for those who are into something different and into a bit larger fare. I don’t see this as your primary weapon of choice but it’s great to fill out your ARSE-ANAL ! 🙂

THE EUPHO

The Eupho is really at the other end of the spectrum from the Maximus, but more than that, it’s in a class by itself. First, it’s thinner than any of the other models (with the exception of the SGX) and it is far more contoured than anything else that they’ve ever produced. This thing is really impressive to look at, and seems to almost beckon you to insert it! Like the other Next Gen models it’s ribless, but also comes with a newly revamped abutment arm and tab (see http://www.aneros.com/nextgen.php ). The arm itself is much thinner and lighter in construction, while still being nicely balanced in relationship to the body. It’s my belief that this new arm design will make it much simpler to adjust, if it becomes necessary. Considering the problems that many users experienced with the older style abutment arm (and tab) this emerges as a major innovation in my book.

When road testing this model I was immediately taken with just how agile it is….it really moves… and it feels terrific! The numerous contours make for some excellent anal stimulation while the tip dances across your prostate. The thinner design allows for considerable play inside your rectum and I found myself doing a great deal of moving. I came up with two positions just for this model, (I’ll be covering this when I post to my site). I came so many times with this unit…..it’s a winner!

Pros

The Eupho is capable of producing some unique and absolutely delightful sensations as well as some very intense Super O’s. It’s thinner size (girth) combined with the ribless design makes for a very mobile device. Furthermore, it should be fairly easy for everyone to accommodate.

Cons

It possible that some might find that it delivers a little less intensity in the way that it engages the prostate. Consequently one has to work at it a little more to coax a Super O out of it. However, I found that the extra effort came naturally and in a way I felt myself driven to do it, almost as if the Eupho itself was egging me on. For these reasons I would have to say that one might consider this more of an advanced / experienced users model as well.

Final Impressions

Again, I’m intrigued with the way this thing looks (it has a form vaguely reminiscent of a female figure the same way the old coca cola bottles were). If you’re really into anal play to the point where you are collecting different massagers I’d say that the Eupho is an absolute must (I certainly wouldn’t be without it). One might consider it the Aneros connoisseur’s model. If you are a newbie I would advise getting started with one of the other models first (see my review on the Helix).

THE HELIX

At the risk of overstating it a bit, I would have to say that the Helix just might be the Aneros users very own Holy Grail! In general terms its unit similar in size to MGX. But the Helix is not a mere reworking of an old MGX (the way the New MGX was to the Classic), with a redesigned head, body and abutment tab it’s really a whole new unit from the ground up. Specifically, the Helix is slightly shorter, with a head that is wider and thicker than MGX. Overall the device has a more aggressive design with a prominent contour on its anterior surface (toward the prostate) that translates effectively into more intense and more focused prostate contact. Furthermore, they’ve contoured the unit in no less than 4 other areas so that from the moment that you insert the Helix, you know it something different. This one gets right down to business! Miraculously it does all of this without sacrificing any mobility either (owing in part to the ribless design).

The abutment arm and tab are identical to that of the Eupho with its slimmer more minimal design. The tab itself is smaller than that of the MGX so that it yields a more focused pressure (albeit over a smaller area). Surprisingly, even with the smaller surface area of the tab it appeared to anchor the unit as well or better than its predecessor.

From my very first trial with the Helix we were fast friends! For me, there was no learning curve or having to become accustomed to it. I inserted it and started having involuntaries within several minutes, shortly after…I was immersed in Super O’s.

Pros

The Helix is the best unit that HIH has designed since their introduction of the MGX Classic years ago. It’s my opinion that it’s an excellent choice for the advanced user and newbie alike. I anticipate that this unit may give those users who have been having difficulties crossing over that extra push they need.

Furthermore I won’t be surprised if the Helix supplants the MGX as the flagship model in the Aneros line.

Cons

Probably not for SGX users or for those who are having trouble accommodating the MGX already.

Final Impressions

If you’re only buying one Aneros massager….this is the one to get!

Conclusions

In reading this review one might get the impression that I’ve reduced all of this to the level of an old fairytale with …one too big, one too small and another just right. This would be a mistake however. There is a great deal to admire in all 3 of Next Generation models. You’ve just gotta know what you’re getting into! Hopefully this review will have helped you somewhat in that regard.

It’s clear that HIH took a great deal of time and made a creative leap here… and in my opinion it’s paid off big time. To be sure several of these models are more esoteric, but it just goes to show that the manufacturer is open to change and innovation. Well done HIH...keep it (and us) coming!

Cheers,

BF Mayfield

The best so far. I was on about giving up but I thought no will carry on, I get a very nice feeling like I was masturbating. So I was going to carry on. I lay down on the bed on my back. And start to breath slowly relaxing. I started to contract slowly about one every 2 seconds. Ii could feel the normal nice feeling like little tiny orgasms. So So I play with this for about 10 minutes. I started to contract faster about 1 every second. Trying to go over the edge but still no look. Thinking about want people said on the web site. So I pushed down on it like going to the toilet and the feeling doubled. Then my ass started twitching on it’s own slow to start with then is got so fast like 10 a second. It felt so nice I kept going and going what felt like for hours. After 15 mins my legs would shake.

It was nice but not as nice as before The feeling was so intents and nice.

I really don’t know if this was small super O. but I tried again next day and nothing just the nice feeling I have normaly get
hope i am on right track

Originally Posted By: B Mayfield
FINDING YOUR OWN RHYTHM...GETTING YOUR BODY IN TUNE

The journey's not over yet....,more to come later!

B Mayfield

Hi,
the many posts I read on this forum helped me on my journey so far and after last night's new heights I feel I have to give back a little.

I am a fresh user of the aneros but not new to anal pleasures since I am gay, both active and passive and have been playing occasionaly with dildos. When I saw the aneros and read a few posts I thought: this is for me!

The MGX and Helix arrived last week and I gave myself a test ride with them. The first two sessions I had were dissapointing as nothing happened. Nothing. Except I could feel the aneros in my rectum and that was it.

After that I tried to follow the advice to relax, kneel, do nothing... for some reason I think I was triying too hard. On the third session I contracted my sphincter muscles, thighs, just about everything I could and it got me into some sort of spasms with a rocking pelvic motion. I could definitely feel the aneros and the tab this time, generating a wee bit of pleasure but what seemed to be very little for such an effort. Anyway I was making progress.

Then I read someone's post about differentiating between all the mucles involved in order to fine tune the effect... easier said than done. But I tried and noticed that if I concentrated on my anal sphincter and then added contractions of the muscles that control your peeing, somehow the plesure seemed a bit higher. But still: no waves, no butterflies, no groaning... I was becoming jealous!

On my fourth or fifth session something different happened: After using the aneros for an hour and calling it a day with only slight improvement, I terminated the session by masturbating and as the previous times my orgasm was a bit stronger and copious than normal. I took the aneros out and went to sleep. When I woke up, I could still feel my sphincter muscles and contracted them a few times. A very short but definite hit of pleasure went through my body! I was so surprised as I had done nothing more than contract my muscles with no aneros in. The pleasure was akin to what I experience when I make love.. only shorter. This definitely encouraged me to continue as I was feeling that I was making little steps forward every session.

Yesterday I came home tired from a very busy week at work. Went to bed at 1 am and decided to try and sleep with the aneros in. As ever afer the first sessions I used the MGX as I like it better.
After a relatively short time (15?30? mins) I was where I'd been before but I then tried to avoid squeezing my butt too much or rocking my pelvis and lay still. When contracting and moving the aneros inside I tried to feel if there was a place that seemed more sensitive. When there I would try to just keep the toy pressing there, not thinking about my contraction or breathing, and I tried to get "into" the feeling mentally, concentrating on the pleasure created, however small. This resulted in stronger feelings but I could not sustain them very long; however I was now really starting to enjoy this. Then on one occasion I got a glimpse of what was ahead I guess: a warmer, deeper, stronger feeling started to radiate within my pelvis, at the same time my legs experienced a fast but low amplitude vibration. This was very nice and I tried to find how to keep it but again lost it after a while.
Tired I decided to end the session with a hand job and had a very strong orgasm, rocking around and comming profusely, despite having done so several days in a row ( and I am no 20 year old...). I went to sleep after playing a bit with contractions without the aneros that brought little pleasures all worth feeling.
I don't know how long I slept but I was woken up by a sharp surge of pleasure going through my body. I loved it even though I was quite taken by surprise. My body felt very sensitive and my anal area even more so; I couldn't resist giving it another try, so I put a little bit of lube on my Helix and in it went. I experienced more waves that I couldn't make last but enjoyed them as they came. Then, and for the first time ever since I embarked on this journey, I felt a very strong erection. I was too tired to last very long so I played with myself again and had another very strong and wet orgasm.

I haven't had the super one, I know that, but every session had something more to offer and I feel that my body is slowly awakening and offering me more and more enjoyable moments. I haven't read here of someone experiencing "pangs" of pleasure that woke them up but would like to hear from your experiences. I am very interested to see where this leads and just a bit anxious that I may become addicted(!)

This is the first "place", virtual or other, where I have seen men share such intimate feelings, regardless of their origins or sexual orientations. And I am touched. All because of this little bit of plastic we are playing with...