Just wondering is this ok 2 do

@Forthe99 first, welcome onboard the Aneros World! A question about religion always brings a ton of opinions and at the end of the day, it is and will remain your decision to proceed or not. The use of Aneros is in large part for good health purposes and it happens that it has the great benefit of producing extreme pleasures to human mankind. In your religion, if masterbation is prohibited, I can understand the apprehension to proceed. In my view, both masterbation and prostate massaging are good for your body and mind's health. It's been great for me. Hope you have a taste of it. Good vibes to you!

Hey I've been visiting this forum for like a few weeks now and Im really interested in a aneros now. My question is for those of you who are Christians is this sinful to use. No judgement anyone can answer. I want to ask my dad about this but I kno he would flip out. He is very religious (a pastor) and these kinds of things are never discussed at all in my house. Also how do you have to be for this to work. I'm close to 18 but I don't see a age range on it.

I am fairly sure I've seen Aneros veterans post here saying that you shouldn't have mental hangups.
I'd regard any religion, that specifies that playing with yourself is a sin, to be incompatible with Aneros use, because you will have mental hangups and will either not progress, or your will feel a lot of guilt.

The question then becomes, does your denomination of Christianity regard it as a sin or not.
I thought Catholicism (which is just a branch of Christianity, which is just another branch of Abrahamic religion just like Judaism and Islam), forbids playing with oneself, because it's a sin. I'd go as far as to say that since those religions are all worshiping the same God (who has different names, but is the same entity), I would think no religious Christian would technically be allowed to use Aneros and play with themselves. But that's my non-expert interpretation.
Perhaps many Christians feel they can relax the rules and masturbate, have sex outside of marriage, penetrate themselves analy (sodomy?), but in that case, what's the point in following any of the rules? 😉

My personal opinion and suggestion (and you don't have to accept it or follow it) is to:
1. Drop religion (or at the very least, the religions that are incompatible with modern life and where the deity does not permit self-love).
2. Don't ask your father about this so that you dont get a flip-out.
3. Become independent, move out, and discover the world without religion's shackles.
4. Enjoy life and Aneros

I don't think there's a specific age range once you reach puberty, but I'm not a medical expert - you'd need to have a prostate for most of the massagers to work, at least, in the beginning of your journey.

@Forthe99 I've just seen @GGringo s post and I completely agree.

My question is for those of you who are Christians is this sinful to use.

Similiar questions to this have arisen in previous posts to the Forum. You can read many forum members responses in these threads -> Experimenting, and guilt, A More Realistic Attitude & personal questions for you guys. Ultimately, after reading through those responses, it will be your individual determination as to whether Aneros use constitutes sinful behavior or not, the choice is yours and yours alone.

I want to ask my dad about this but I know he would flip out. He is very religious (a pastor) and these kinds of things are never discussed at all in my house.

That's unfortunate your father is not open to such discussions, however, you might be able to open up some sexual discussion by referencing how other pastors are discussing such topics as in this article I referenced in a previous post.

Also how do you have to be for this to work. I'm close to 18 but I don't see a age range on it.

18 years old is (in most states) the legal age of adult maturity (age at which you become legally responsible for all personal acts) and can legally purchase adult products such as Aneros massagers. Once past puberty, your physical age has very little to do with how effective the massager will be for you. Good Vibes to You !

I agree with the responses you've gotten. Let me just say that I was once in your position. When I was younger I was extremely religious and felt regret and shame everytime I masturbated. I begged for God's forgiveness and wondered why he would make something so amazing a sin. Once I finally abandoned religion it was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I realized religion was a form of control. They take natural beautiful things like sexuality and make it a "sin". But you are not going to be swayed by some guy on the Internet so all I can say is think of it this way why would a God care in the first place that you are enjoying yourself healthily with no harm being done to yourself or others. it makes no sense. But if you are still uncomfortable with the idea then like mentioned above don't do it. You need to be mentally clear and relaxed and true to yourself to do this. Good luck

@GGringo thanks for the response and advice. I dont believe masturbation is a sin. I've never read a scripture specifically saying that it is. The other stuff is open to your own way of understanding it. My main concern is like will it look suspicious 2 others. Jus wondered if u guys had the same type of questions before u got it.

@lonewolf8 thanks for ur reply man. I don't think of masturbation as a sin at all. I feel like it's better then just havin sex with every girl you can. I sorta don't really get bothered by that it's jus I wonder if like the actual sticking something in me is wrong. But when it comes to my religion I'm content. Don't get me wrong nothing is perfect but I don't feel like it hinders me as much as helps me. It's the people around me that I worry more about. And no don't worry I won't talk my dad about it at all. He'd probably kick me out for even being up here lol.

@Forthe99
Hi. Then you will probably be ok, and your only issue would probably be practical things such as privacy and personal cleanup before and after a session.
You'd need 45-90 minutes of privacy, and will need to use quite a bit of lube and the inevitable clean up you'd have to do afterwards.

My 2 cents...before aneros...I masturbated and consumed porn pretty much daily. After aneros...I may have a session once a week and consume porn much much less.

in short...it may be a sin...but I sin much less now.
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it just seemed to rewire my pleasure centers, grounding me and putting me in more control. Weird.
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I would think no religious Christian would technically be allowed to use Aneros and play with themselves. But that's my non-expert interpretation.
Perhaps many Christians feel they can relax the rules and masturbate, have sex outside of marriage, penetrate themselves analy (sodomy?), but in that case, what's the point in following any of the rules? 😉

Oh please!
Nobody will find any word literally written against masturbation or penetrating oneself in any Christian Bible. Period.

But there are many people who feel a vocation to teach their interpretation of some words they read a hidden message from. Because the text was nearly forwarded like whisper down the lane, nobody can show us the orginal text. And because we got no perfect dictionary nobody can be sure to translate the Bible perfectly, why there is no identical translation. Even the Ten Commandments have to be interpreted but none of them is literally against masturbation or penetrating oneself.

Last year, 2016, Pope Franziskus answered a question of the Christian theologian Küng, "that he (the Pope) would welcome a free discussion (even) about the Papal infallability".
"Perhaps some Christians feel they can" define some rules by their own interpretation of a Bible word, but how conceitedly do they elevate themselves? Are they infallable?

To calm down and to take it ironically:

While taking a walk with his parents when he was a teen, a German stand-up comedian, a catholic, saw a blind old man walking in the park, too.
Thinking about blindness by masturbation he made the conclusion "Wow, that guy stayed the course".

@Forthe99, stay your course, you will be fine. Even no need to drop religion. Perhaps better drop humans who elevate themselves, cause "motive was not their zeal for God's law and His honor, but their self-exaltation and addiction to judge was leading them."

And after all: No offence! I concede any interpretation to anyone, but please retain yours, I already got my own. 😉

Just to add....if I go 10 days or longer without ejaculating...I find myself in sort of a constant state of arousal...even without impure thoughts. Now if think of someone in a lustfull way...or watch porn. That feeling will greatly intinsify...but if I don't...I am just in a state of general well being...and become much more attracted to my wife.

Oh please!
Nobody will find any word literally written against masturbation or penetrating oneself in any Christian Bible. Period.

But there are many people who feel a vocation to teach their interpretation of some words they read a hidden message from. Because the text was nearly forwarded like whisper down the lane, nobody can show us the orginal text. And because we got no perfect dictionary nobody can be sure to translate the Bible perfectly, why there is no identical translation. Even the Ten Commandments have to be interpreted but none of them is literally against masturbation or penetrating oneself.

Last year, 2016, Pope Franziskus answered a question of the Christian theologian Küng, "that he (the Pope) would welcome a free discussion (even) about the Papal infallability".
"Perhaps some Christians feel they can" define some rules by their own interpretation of a Bible word, but how conceitedly do they elevate themselves? Are they infallable?

So hold on.... you say that @Forthe99 's father doesn't have any rules against Aneros use, even though they would probably flip out as per OP's description?

Look, I didn't want to touch a nerve (but I obviously did, so apologies for that), I was merely showing that there are many religions (*) that are very restrictive about things like this, and that if one's parent's are subscribers to religion then this rubs off on the offspring due to religious osmosis and indoctrination. And thus offspring can have mental hangups later on in life that may cause them psychological damage.

FWIW, my personal opinion is that nearly all religion is bad, but I wasn't trying to aggresively push that onto anyone, and I don't think I was sufficiently anti-religion in my post as to warrant your excited reply.

Yes, religious text can be translated differently, but we are not talking about the contents of the text, but rather people's interpretation of it. In this context, that's what matters - if OP's father interprets the text to mean that sexual activities not for procreation are a sin, then it doesn't matter what the text says, the familiy unit would encounter serious issues ("flip out" or worse), and one's mental well being could be in harm.

So to recap, just because you wont find masturbation or premarital sex or anal sex or many kinks in (a specific?) religious text, doesn't meant there won't be real-world consequences for breaking the norm of the (whacky?) religious rules imposed / enforced / expected by the local community or family unit. And that mental conditioning, over time, would also affect an individual's development too.

* - I remember reading on reddit some poor guy (of 22 or so years age) in Australia (of all places!) having to have his bedsheets checked by his mum for stains, and she would smell his hands to check if he was jacking off. This is the kind of restriction, albeit an extreme form in this example, that religion all over the world brings.

The way I see it is...if you are successful at not jacking off because according to your religion...jacking off is sinful...then you should keep on doing what your doing. But if your jacking off is somehow causing emotional tribulations with your religion then...to me...there is no difference...or worse sin...between jacking off or using the aneros.

@lonewolf8, I think you're fully misunderstanding my words. I distinguish between religion and what people make out of it. That's the point.
Didn't want to touch anybody's nerves either.

A question about religion always brings a ton of opinions and at the end of the day, it is and will remain your decision to proceed or not.

Religion and politics are two subjects that are sure to bring lively discussions and we saw another example of this here.
@Forthe99 do what your mind and soul tells you to do. Be comfortable in your decision.

@GGringo Exactly. I'm pretty sure we all have the best intentions, but sometimes discussions can become lively and heated.

@coolme Yes I think I mostly agree. I guess aneros usage and any effects and emotional feelings will be handled as and when they appear, and we will be here to support OP and answer any questions in the future.

@SOwithoutAneros Ok cool, no worries. Once again, no offence was intended. It seems to me that we are both trying to take a balanced view with this, so I think we can both be happy with the outcome 🙂

I'm don't believe in god, but from what I can grasp from the religion, we are made in the image of god, therefore what we do is done in the image of god, our will is in the image of god, therefor if my will is to pleasure myself, it's also god's will.
Moreover, he(she maybe they according to the hebrew text) forgive everything, wich pretty much mean, everything is okay.

Religion is a matter of interpretation, that's why there was, and there are still religious war. You are you're own person, interpret things as you will.

As for my own belief, science, it require experiment, the aneros is an experiment I'll never regret.

[...]think we can both be happy with the outcome 🙂

So do I! 🙂

[...] the aneros is an experiment I'll never regret.

Affirmative! 🙂

If something is preventing you from experiencing life in all of its facets, perhaps you should reconsider the thing that is preventing you. If there is indeed a universal consciousness that created us, and life is as truly rare as we know it is, I'm pretty sure that consciousness would want us to take full advantage of the experience

There are/have been many Christians on this sight, with most being of a much more deeper Faith, and they never seem to have problems with it. The sin of masturbation is a man-made rule; Onan died because he refused to do his family duty to impregnate his wife, the widow of his brother. In Jewish tradition, if a brother dies, the surviving brother must take his widow and have children with her to continue the family bloodline. The Catholic Church's forbidding of masturbation I believe, wrongly stems from that, and is kind-of like the Pharisees and Sadducees, who made up stupid rules and regulations to make themselves seem more righteous, or some-such nonsense.

For me, so long as I'm not fantasizing about some sinful thing while having a session, I'm good. It is, after all, good for our prostate health, and the immense pleasure it can be capable of is a Gift from God.

Unfortunately, all religion and all Christianity [as one religion] because of the attitudes of some members. You will find some Christian denominations are anti-masturbation, others are not. Traditional Roman Catholic teaching is ant-masturbation as is many fundamentalist Protestant denominations. I suspect your dad as a "pastor" probably would not ok with masturbation. If your dad [or mom] was an ECUSA Priest, I suspect they would be much more understanding. In general, the different denominations approaches to sexuality issues can be determined rather easily. A denomination that rants and raves against gays is not likely to be understanding on the issue of masturbation.

My mom was very puritanical at first, but had a major change in direction about the same time that our church [Anglican] moved from a bunch of stiff upper lip Union Jack wavers into a liberally minded reformed catholic tradition.

Don't let puritanical attitudes rob you of your faith. Do be discreet about any form of auto-eroticism until you are no longer under your dad's roof.