japanese use of prostate massage

I do not think it is common for Japanese wives to give prostate massage to their husbands. But here in Japan, it is not difficult to find massage parlours to give prostate massages as well as handjobs.
I have no idea of the relationship with the cancer rate though.

But here in Japan, it is not difficult to find massage parlours to give prostate massages as well as handjobs.

Wow, I have to move to Japan!!!

I was on a business trip to Japan a few months back and had an interesting experience that supports earlier posts. Near the end of my visit, my business contact took me out for lunch to celebrate. As the atmosphere lightened under the effect of alcohol he promised me a special massage as my treat for closing the deal. I declined but he insisted and that evening took me to a non descript house where two middle aged women lived. I expected the usual bathouse type of action but these women were quite different and very serious and organised. And they had clothes on and showed no inclination to remove them. After the usual bathing routine and ritual I lay on a table as usual for massage. But as one of the women rubbed my upper body, the other squeezed a fluid into my anus and inserted a device very similar to the Aneros. But it was not identiacal and of a different material, possibly an alloy of some sort. There was no grip and I was able to lie flat on my back with it in. My reaction was surprise, then a pleasant sensation of warmth across my lower body. The women indicated that I should retain the device inside me and resist the natural reaction to eject it. Doing this made the sensation more intense and the women then continued to massage me as normal, but leaving my anus and genitals alone.
The women manipulated my body during the massage and as they did this the sensation from my prostate area changed in intensity as did my breathing. During this time my penis went hard then soft then hard then soft so that I lost count, and as this happened a very small amount of fluid leaked from my penis, which by that point had become so sensitised that I felt as though I was going to ejaculate although nothing was touching me in that area. The massage continued with both women working my body and one then started to massage my temples, neck and shoulders. The other stroked my penis very gently and it stayed flaccid, but this triggered the most intense climax which seemed to come in waves. I was aware of fluid flowing from my penis throughout the climax, and I clenched my anal muscles against the device which released yet more fluid (or appeared to). I was sure that I had peed but did not. The device was then removed, which triggered an involuntary climax, and was replaced by two fingers that gently massaged my prostate in a very soft manner, quite different from the device. The effect was to bring me down from my heightened excitement in a very gentle way. But as the finger massage came to an end there was a burning sensation through the shaft of my penis and what can only be described as a grittiness as a small amount of fluid was expelled. The experience ended with more bathing and I left feeling on a high. I returned once more time before I left Japan and had the same sensations. My friend told me that prostate massage had been practised in Japan as a "health supplement" for married couples, but in recent years most women had changed their attitudes and lifestyles so it had almost died out. However there were still practitioners, such as these two women, who provided the service. But they were different from the blowjob/massage that is more widely available but a much briefer and less sensual experience.

I wonder whether their instructions to keep the device in rather than expell it caused you to clench your sphincter much like we do with the aneros?

I ask because I have been curious about how the aneros inventors discovered the involuntary contractions miracle. Perhaps it has a history in the kind of massage device you are describing.

Darwin

Hi, don't know but sounds as though there could be a link way back when. Who designed the Aneros? The device used on me didn't have a perineal tab or handle. Instead there was a cord attached to the base which was looped around my penis and balls. This cord was very very slightly elastic and a thickish hard bump in it could be moved either way so it could be placed fairly accurately above the perineum. This overcame what appears to be a problem with the Aneros, the accuracy of fitting the tab and slippage. The bump was kept pretty much in place by the tug of war between my anus working to hold the device in and my penis hardening, tightening my balls and pulling the cord slightly in the opposite direction. The softening of my penis allowed more lateral movement with the device going deeper (almost as if a little behind the prostate itself) which brought a different sensation that stimulated my penis to firm up again. But at no time did either woman touch my penis/balls - not until the very end. The bump was also unaffected by excess lubricant leaking from my anus. Has anyone else experienced this particular type of device? Is I'd be interested in knowing where to buy - or could an Aneros be adapted?

Simon Gerard

My understanding is that the Aneros was designed by a urologist. With regard to the device that you've described, it sounds intriguing. I'd like to check it out myself. If you make it back to Japan and you find a source for it, score me one too!

In the meantime, with a little practice the Aneros can deliver some astonishing results. Of course, you'll have to supply the ladies and the bath tub!

With respect to modification of the Aneros, I don't think there's a way to make it function like the device that you've described. But I believe the perineal tab could be bent forward to give it more gripping and pressure potential. Even as it is, if you are using the Aneros while on your back it isn't difficult to keep the perineum dry. To further prevent any shifting, I will sometimes hold my hand loosely around the rear handle to preclude any movement (not to add any pressure!) An alternative is hold your index and middle fingers in an upside down V loosely around the perineal tab itself, again being careful not to give any pressure to it (the Aneros must be free to move by itself in order to respond spontaneously to any voluntary or involuntary contractions of your anus!)

Two questions about your experience: 1) were the ladies doing this service attractive or were they matrons? 2) was there any conversation with them while this was all going on or was it serious business?

B Mayfield

The aneros patent was issued to Jiro Takashima of Houston Tx in 1996.
You can find it and related patents here:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=%22prostate+massage%22&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=ptxt

Hi, thanks for the great feedback. Looks as if the Japanese influence was there from the start with the Aneros.

For BM: The women administering the massage were probably about 50+/-, and not unatractive, just not anything special. Polite, petite even for Japanese,gentle, no bare flesh and very professional. They were in control and gave me total confidence in them so nothing worried or embarassed me, even though I had little idea what to expect - my Japanese colleague had said to trust in them so I did. There was regular conversation between them, very little with me as their English was very limited and my Japanese non existent.

I'm hoping to go back to Japan next month and am planning to dig into this a bit more as well as visiting my two friends.

Simon

My wife is Japanese and a health nut. She researched the original posting with family and friends as well as colleagues in Japan and found:

- prostate massage was practised widely in Japan up until and through WW2
- prostate health regarded as key to male vitality and virility.
- it was carried out by a servant, usually female but sometimes male.
- there was no sexual element although the wife might often be present.
- small hands and long fingers were prized in a servant giving massage.
- one technique was to pivot the thumb on the perineum and insert the remaining four fingers into the anus, down to the base of the thumb. Explains why small hands were valued. Incidentally this technique allegedly adapted to give pleasure to women - thumb on clitoris and vagina instead of anus.
- as servants died out so the practise decreased. Also seen to be an old fashioned act in a modernising Japan. But persisted and techniques passed down.
- devices used as well as fingers. One, a small stick with ball on tip allowed manipulation of the prostate - not explained how perineum stimulated if indeed it was. Aneros possibly a further development of these devices given need for self stimulation instead of using servant/paying professional.
- comment made that in profile a hand looks like the Aneros - I can see it a little if I squint but.....

My wife offered to recreate the original Japanese experience but even with her small hands I could take no more than three fingers and depth insufficient to give serious stimulation of the prostate. If fourth finger could be accommodated then it might work.

Research ongoing as is experimentation. Hope this is of interest.

SUCCESS at last with the experiment. Wow, what a feeling.

Tim,

Please give the specifics. Did your experimentation involve the Aneros or was this your wife digitally massaging your prostate, or both. Do tell!!!

B Mayfield

P.S. From indications in your last post, your wife is a terrific lady and you're one lucky guy! 🙂

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Tim,

Please give the specifics. Did your experimentation involve the Aneros or was this your wife digitally massaging your prostate, or both. Do tell!!!

B Mayfield

P.S. From indications in your last post, your wife is a terrific lady and you're one lucky guy! 🙂

Hi BM

I am an enthusiastic Aneros user and have found it essential to good sex with my wife. She enjoys watching me use it and whilst I like solo use, most pleasure comes from her stimulating my penis as I do some anal contractions. I have yet to master solo use and achieve your level of enjoyment. Using it as a prelude to full sex I have found that draining the prostate improves my erection, I last longer and my wife says I taste better. After some problems with premature ejaculation I now find that the Aneros has solved them. However our only complaint is that I remain flaccid when using the Aneros, despite feeling great sensations.

Our experiment was using my wife's hand to recreate the Japanese experience. Intitally it was not a success, probably because we did not allow enough time to relax. But last weekend we decided to devote a day to this to see once and for all if it was anything more than folklore. So clothes off, heating up and total realxation. And lots of lube. It took best part of two hours to get to the point where I was happy for my wife to try the full four fingers insertion and even then we were unsure. I lay on my back, my upper body raised a little, so that I could watch my wife work between my legs. After some trial and error my wife found that letting my anus guide her she could get four fingers in as far as the base of her thumb. As this was happening I felt very little stimualtion and was a bit sad, since it was not comparable to the Aneros. However the last inch and a half made a huge difference as my wife's middle fingers seemed to go beyond my prostate and behind it. The two edge fingers (she said) squeezed inwards and along the side of the prostate. But what I immediately felt was a tickling sensation behind the prostate and at the tip of my penis. My breathing quickened and I had to spend a few minutes pacing myself and regaining my composure, with my wife's help. But the tickling did not stop and my wife was thrilled to see my penis harden, something that had never happened with the Aneros. Her grin made it even better for me, and very soon my foreskin had stretched right back and my penis was rock solid and stayed that way. My wife and I have experimented with Viagra - with both of us taking it - and the result for me was similar with a tightness in my penis that was almost uncomfortable.

There was some leakage of fluid, more than usual, from my penis during all this and my wife rrubbed this over the head - as she touched the sides I had a reflex action that contracted my anus and I could feel even better her fingers surrounding my prostate. Bliss! At the same time her thumb was pressing my perineum, but I found that slowly rotating this and pressing quite hard gave a more extreme sensation thjan simply leaving it in a fixed spot. After more than 40 minutes and some "dry" orgasms I ejaculated very strongly and my wife was thrilled at the fountain of joy (as she calls it) spurting into the air. So was I - previously using the Aneros my emission has been more of a stream than a spurt. We expected my erection to melt but were pleased to note that although it softened slightly, becoming more comfortable, it stayed nicely firm. My wife commented that when I ejaculated she felt a hard ball press into her fingers, presumably my prostate contracting. After a further ejaculation, assisted by my wife's mouth, she said that the ball was smaller and a final emission almost an hour later produced no more than a small bump. Each time my orgasms were intense but with each ejaculation they felt different in a way that cannot be easily described. As if they gained greater depth. At all times the sensation was fabulous and there was much greater eroticism from having my wife do this to me, as well as a very diffeent feeling from having her make very subtle (and not so subtle) movements of her fingers and thumb. It was much more intimate than using the Aneros but the sensations were different and both have their moment. I was also surprised at how my anus accommodated her hand over what was a long period although squeezing more lube into my anus using a small syringe during the process was essential to minimising discomfort. I'd also recommend a full enema - and no, don't involve your wife of partner in this.

I'd recommend anyone try but not that often. We spent the whole day and although it was sensational we were exhausted at the end and I was a little sore. It cannot be rushed. And unless you have a partner with very small hands then don't even try it! We hope to try again soon and attempt full sex whilst my wife massages me - we think having her ride me facing away will allow her to control her hand. But we shall see.

Tim

Hey Tim,

Thanks for the details, but I gotta tell you,...I just can't stand it! You are soooo lucky! What a terrific wife and partner you have! Far too many women it seems, are squeemish about anal play, (giving or receiving). They just don't know what they're missing. Unfortunately, our culture discourages a great many people, with old taboos and in large part by linking sexual gratification of this sort with sexual preference. This forum provides proof that there are others out there who are more enlightened.

Please keep us posted on your exploits with the "Japanese method", and don't give up on the Super Orgasmic experience either. I noticed that you referred to it as a "solo" endeavor, but actually once you have mastered it,.. it does not have to be. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling (judging from what you've written about your wife) that she would be blown away by watching and/or participating in your Super Orgasm!

Thanks again for your post

B Mayfield

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Hey Tim,

Thanks for the details, but I gotta tell you,...I just can't stand it! You are soooo lucky! What a terrific wife and partner you have! Far too many women it seems, are squeemish about anal play, (giving or receiving). They just don't know what they're missing. Unfortunately, our culture discourages a great many people, with old taboos and in large part by linking sexual gratification of this sort with sexual preference. This forum provides proof that there are others out there who are more enlightened.

Please keep us posted on your exploits with the "Japanese method", and don't give up on the Super Orgasmic experience either. I noticed that you referred to it as a "solo" endeavor, but actually once you have mastered it,.. it does not have to be. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling (judging from what you've written about your wife) that she would be blown away by watching and/or participating in your Super Orgasm!

Thanks again for your post

B Mayfield

Hi BM

Thanks for the encouragement. We are certainly going to continue and I know I am very fortunate to have such a great wife. We both love to experiment and she enjoys anal play just as much as me. But, after some clumsiness, I eventually grasped that with women it is so different. The Aneros does nothing for her - came as no surprise - and her toys don't always work for me. But it is great to find out by trial and error.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Tim

Originally Posted By: TimC

Thanks for the encouragement. We are certainly going to continue and I know I am very fortunate to have such a great wife. We both love to experiment and she enjoys anal play just as much as me. But, after some clumsiness, I eventually grasped that with women it is so different. The Aneros does nothing for her - came as no surprise - and her toys don't always work for me. But it is great to find out by trial and error.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Tim

Dear TimC:

Please contact us directly about this research and experimentation. We may be able to help.

Send a message to one of the addresses below.

[email protected]
@aneros.com">support@aneros.com

Originally Posted By: TimC

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Hey Tim,

Thanks for the details, but I gotta tell you,...I just can't stand it! You are soooo lucky! What a terrific wife and partner you have! Far too many women it seems, are squeemish about anal play, (giving or receiving). They just don't know what they're missing. Unfortunately, our culture discourages a great many people, with old taboos and in large part by linking sexual gratification of this sort with sexual preference. This forum provides proof that there are others out there who are more enlightened.

Please keep us posted on your exploits with the "Japanese method", and don't give up on the Super Orgasmic experience either. I noticed that you referred to it as a "solo" endeavor, but actually once you have mastered it,.. it does not have to be. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling (judging from what you've written about your wife) that she would be blown away by watching and/or participating in your Super Orgasm!

Thanks again for your post

B Mayfield

Hi BM

Thanks for the encouragement. We are certainly going to continue and I know I am very fortunate to have such a great wife. We both love to experiment and she enjoys anal play just as much as me. But, after some clumsiness, I eventually grasped that with women it is so different. The Aneros does nothing for her - came as no surprise - and her toys don't always work for me. But it is great to find out by trial and error.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Tim

Dear TimC: Please contact us directly about this research and experimentation. We may be able to help. Send a message to one of the addresses below. [email protected] @aneros.com">support@aneros.com

Originally Posted By: support

Originally Posted By: TimC

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Hey Tim,

Thanks for the details, but I gotta tell you,...I just can't stand it! You are soooo lucky! What a terrific wife and partner you have! Far too many women it seems, are squeemish about anal play, (giving or receiving). They just don't know what they're missing. Unfortunately, our culture discourages a great many people, with old taboos and in large part by linking sexual gratification of this sort with sexual preference. This forum provides proof that there are others out there who are more enlightened.

Please keep us posted on your exploits with the "Japanese method", and don't give up on the Super Orgasmic experience either. I noticed that you referred to it as a "solo" endeavor, but actually once you have mastered it,.. it does not have to be. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling (judging from what you've written about your wife) that she would be blown away by watching and/or participating in your Super Orgasm!

Thanks again for your post

B Mayfield

Hi BM

Thanks for the encouragement. We are certainly going to continue and I know I am very fortunate to have such a great wife. We both love to experiment and she enjoys anal play just as much as me. But, after some clumsiness, I eventually grasped that with women it is so different. The Aneros does nothing for her - came as no surprise - and her toys don't always work for me. But it is great to find out by trial and error.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Tim

Dear TimC: Please contact us directly about this research and experimentation. We may be able to help. Send a message to one of the addresses below. [email protected] @aneros.com">support@aneros.com

Just got back from latest trip to Japan. Couldn't afford to repeat my original experience as these ladies charge over a thousand bucks for the full works. Real sad, but did find a cheaper option. Not as long or as personal and not so good but still worth itas interesting. Used what looked like a basterdised aneros, but with a vibrate option that I could control. Little female attention save to insert and monitor over an hour. Interesting that tables made you lie face down, and legs were on separate strips, leaving balls and cock hanging in empty air. Odd. Encouraged to contract and use vibe control and managed to get a reasonable orgasm and some leakage before female finished me by hand which was very intense if a bit clinical ejaculation leaving me very empty and relaxed. Polite, clean, efficient but not ideal. Don't think I'll repeat - better to bust the bank and go for the full works.

Simon,

Don't suppose you got a line on that device that they used on you the first time?

B Mayfield

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Simon,

Don't suppose you got a line on that device that they used on you the first time?

B Mayfield

Hi BM, short answer is no. The place I visited this time round was different from before and therefore less "personalised" More sterile and I occupied one of about seven cubicles separated by thinnish partitions so not totally relaxing. I guess there were at least three other guys there at the same time based on noises etc. However, I did ask my friend who arranged my original session for more information and he has promised to do what he can. His intitial response was that it was probably a bespoke model made some years ago since the ties were older material. The Japanese love modern materials so the fact that the ties weren't indicated that the women probably either inherited it or received it on their intitiation. He commented that he had seen other models, the women selecting the most appropriate for their clients, so they probably formed a set. He thoght the women would not allow copies.

I'm probably going back again, possibly for the last time, in either March or April and have decided to go for the original treatment again despite the cost. It will leave me with memories that can only be good. I'm also hoping he will have found out more about the tool. I'll let you know. Simon

Simon,

Make sure to report in after your next adventure. Also, see if you can snag a snap shot of that device!

B Mayfield

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Simon,

Make sure to report in after your next adventure. Also, see if you can snag a snap shot of that device!

B Mayfield

Hi BM, will do if I'm allowed to take pics. Hoped they might allow video of whole experience but told this is a definite no.

Simon

Simon,

Does this place have a name? If so, is there a translation? I wanted to thank you for all of your information on this subject. As you can see from the number of hits (views) there has been a great amount of interest in your adventures. It's fascinating how different cultures approach sexuality. Along that line, if you haven't already, check out the link on the Aneros Home page under the heading "In the News" entitled Mainichi Daily Press. It offers an amusing view into the world of Japanese erotica.

B Mayfield

Originally Posted By: b mayfield
Simon,

Does this place have a name? If so, is there a translation? I wanted to thank you for all of your information on this subject. As you can see from the number of hits (views) there has been a great amount of interest in your adventures. It's fascinating how different cultures approach sexuality. Along that line, if you haven't already, check out the link on the Aneros Home page under the heading "In the News" entitled Mainichi Daily Press. It offers an amusing view into the world of Japanese erotica.

B Mayfield

Hi BM, My business friends arranged the first visit and they will set up the next one. As far as I recall there was nothing to indicate it was anything other than a residential property in a suburb. Certainly no signs. If you would like I can get the address from my colleague out there and email u. These ladies don't need to advertise!!!!!!!

Simon

Originally Posted By: Tim

But here in Japan, it is not difficult to find massage parlours to give prostate massages as well as handjobs.

Wow, I have to move to Japan!!!

I dont get it.What is the diffence between prostate maggage and a hand job???

Originally Posted By: Dennis

Originally Posted By: Tim

But here in Japan, it is not difficult to find massage parlours to give prostate massages as well as handjobs.

Wow, I have to move to Japan!!!

I dont get it.What is the diffence between prostate maggage and a hand job???

Give both a try - simultaneously - and you will soon find out. Don't worry if you don't get hard as that isn't important, in fact it might lessen the experience. Masturbate with the Aneros in place and enjoy.

Originally Posted By: TimC

Hi BM

Thanks for the encouragement. We are certainly going to continue and I know I am very fortunate to have such a great wife. We both love to experiment and she enjoys anal play just as much as me. But, after some clumsiness, I eventually grasped that with women it is so different. The Aneros does nothing for her - came as no surprise - and her toys don't always work for me. But it is great to find out by trial and error.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Tim

Your response kind of got me thinking why there couldn't be a female version of the aneros.

The small jealous part of me thinks I should keep this idea to myself 🙂 Its probably just that I haven't recieved my aneros in the mail yet...once I'm initiated into the world of multiple orgasms I won't have to see woman as getting a better shake in that department.

Anyway here's my idea, for those who run this site and those who read it to do as they can with it. If it really pans out I'll be slapping myself for not patenting it, but frankly I wouldn't even have the money for the process of patenting it or producing it. I wouldn't hold onto the cure for cancer if I had it and wasn't a doctor, either :).

Not even saying this is a new idea but I let you guys think about it to and give your ideas on its worthiness. Essentially it would rely on the instability of the butt portion to keep everything moving.

The left most arm would apply pressure immediately above the pubic bone. Don't know the scientific g-spot orgasm benefits this has, but I've seen a few adult videos where the guy applys pressure here with his other hand.

The second arm would apply pressure and stimulation to the clitoris. Maybe there could be something said in putting one of those vibrating eggs onto the whole contraptions. I'm not sure if the female multiple orgasm is as subtle of a creature to get going as what I've read about the male multiple orgasm and super-O on this sight. B Mayfield has said however that a vibrating egg on the aneros while pleasureable would actually be detrimental toward reaching the super-O.

Third arm is no mystery, it it inserted into the vaginal with a curly end to apply upward pressure on the womans g-spot. The 2nd (clitoris) arm my alternately come off of this arm to apply pressure to the clitoris more simlar to many of the vibrators on the market. There might also be something to be said for making the portion in contact with the first 2 inches of the vagina thicker, but this may reduce the movement caused by anal contractions.

Finally the last arm is the anal arm. As I have it now it simply a "butt-plug-ish" insert that would possibly bring about those anal contractions from simultaneously having your body try to expel it while she holds it it. This is where my understanding of womans errogenous zones deminishes a little.

It might be good to have a curled arm like the primary arm of the aneros hear applying pressure back side of the vagina.

( different clitoris arm and butt arm more like aneros)

Heck you may want to put yet another arm on it to contract the perenium area on the woman, though I don't known if this is pleasureable or not for them. At some point if you put to many arms in this it might become less pleasureable (assuming it does something for them at all.

Another suggestion would be to look at the center of gravity on this monstrosity and figure out where its going to be rotating around and then perhaps distribute weight differently amoung the arms to encourage rotation when the anus contracts and relaxes.

Now I haven't thought to thoroughly over the physics of inserting one of these if its even possible. I don't have a vagina myself...or one anywhere nearby that I think would be willing to allow a clinical investigation 🙂 without some wining and dining of course.

I'd like to hear my fellow forum members opinions however.

I don't think that would work. The function of the aneros greatly depends on its ability to rock back and forth. With inserts in both the anus and vagina and a pubic bone arm, I don't think it would be mobile enough. Perhaps removing the pubic bone arm or replacing the anal insert with a tab that merely pressed on the outside of the anus would work better.

Hello,

I am familiar with several forms of prostate massage and do use them in my massage practice mostly for Japanese who know of the process but also for western and european men who are curious. It is not easy yo get information since most Japanese do not discuss sexual matters in social setting nor to those outside their social circle for the most part. I have never had anyone not enjoy the process and have many repeat clients. It is not a sexual service bt a part of the asian style massage. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

Kenji

This is quite an amazing product. And I have had great successes just leaving it in, relaxing and when i feel the waves just caressing my chest which makes me almost quiver in ecstasy. But aside from that, I too have heard of a Japanese spa in New York that provides prostate massage. But I believe it is done my men on men. I have not visited the spa, but intend to. I will let you know what I find.

Aside from that, does anyone know if Koreans also practice prostate massage.

Regards...