As the title says, achieving a SuperO and the feeling that comes with it sounds very similar to the practice of Kundalini Awakening, Samadha, and Zhuanqi, and Aneros seems like is a tool that can help you reach this state of mind/being.
Would love to hear other’s opinion and feedback since i know there is a post saying “avoid kundalini”
I wrote the post you are referring to. I think I was being honest with the information I had back then. If I wrote it today, it would be very different.
There's a lot more information being released on the dangers of meditation and potential bad outcomes. In fact, our own CBC / Radio-Canada state media published an article on this very issue recently, and there was also a TV documentary (in French) that aired on the same day. What I think now is that Aneros use is more like a form of sexual meditation, more connected to neo-tantra than it would be to any more "ancient' tradition. Therefore it's unlikely to lead to any particular "spiritual" destination and does not make any claim in that sense, but being meditation, the same general warnings would apply.
I don't believe prostate massage or prostate orgasms are unsafe, but some of the things people will try to get there, picking and choosing from all the available sources and techniques out there, some of these could be unwise depending on the individual.
I practice Cobra Breath through Ipsalu kriya yoga and have had some Kundalini awakening (although not fully yet as far as I can tell, its getting there, years of additional work will bring it on) and while there are certainly some sensations that might be similar to Super O during some meditations I practice, they are really not the same at all. Super O is a massive orgasm that has several different outcomes and reactions within the person having that kind of orgasm. My prostate/PC/Pelvic floor flutters uncontrollably during some meditation practices I do, but its nothing like a Super O. I know what you mean @supero19 but no I don't think they are the same after having been involved in tantric kriya yoga for the last 4 years and having gone through training to receive Cobra Breath.
There's a lot more information being released on the dangers of meditation and potential bad outcomes.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your statement...
What are the bad outcomes of meditation? Everyone always says mindfulness is key to great mindsets and happiness.
Here's the link to the article I mentioned, you can translate it through your browser and get a general idea. The TV documentary is linked in that article, it's good but I don't think English captions are available. CBC / Rad-Can is very factual and I can relate to what they talk about in the article, to me it sounds like they're telling it like how it is.
Here's the link to the article I mentioned, you can translate it through your browser and get a general idea. The TV documentary is linked in that article, it's good but I don't think English captions are available. CBC / Rad-Can is very factual and I can relate to what they talk about in the article, to me it sounds like they're telling it like how it is.
Interesting article. One thing really stood out to me in it:
There are many warnings in different traditions about the risks and pitfalls one can encounter," he says. "Sometimes it was seen as a sign that you weren't meditating correctly or that you were doing an advanced practice before you were ready to do it.
That's what triggered me just now in realizing things that went wrong with some of the people talking about their experiences that hurt them during meditation. Its simply not something that can just be done lightly without any prep work. Simple mindfulness practice, 20 minutes a day, that requires you to just return to being present, pay attention to the fact you are sitting there breathing normally, not intense at all, and trying to just keep a clear head when thoughts come in let them leave gently, that kind of practice is not going to (or at least it should not) turn people into mindless hurt people, bring about psychoses, or leave people worse off than before they began to practice mindfulness. I learned mindfulness at the mental health center at my university during grad school in 2016. It was easy, it was simple, it was almost too plain to be real. Yet it worked. And we progressed 3 hours every Wednesday evening for 8 weeks. By the end I could do my practice anywhere, a crowded park, a beach with people all over it, at home, at my friend's house, etc.. It turned my life around, it helped me regain my life again, I could keep going, I didn't want to quit school because it wasn't overwhelming anymore.
However, finishing undergraduate studies and then going into a 10 or 7 or multi-day meditation silent retreat?? That sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can't imagine not preparing for that. No mention if the girl in this article had practiced meditation before she joined that intense workshop. I've been meditating for 10 years now and I don't think I'd be ready for anything like that.
When my wife and I received Cobra Breath 1.5 years ago, we attended a retreat. We had to quit coffee and high caffeine things a few weeks before; cut out processed sugars and foods like candy bars, etc.; no drugs, tobacco, alcohol. We had to cut the stimulants from our system to be pure and wholesome for the process. While there we ate only vegan food, really good wholesome delicious stuff, and only tea was there, some honey for sweetener, and that was it. Beautiful natural setting far from normal life. We engaged in intense shadow work, it was two full days morning to night of practices, meditations, Osho practices, really breaking down our mental fibers to reveal our true selves, to expose our inner child, and defeat it and move past the past. We all got there. Some of us had major breakdowns that healed them, made them feel whole and real for the first time, accepted by others and by themselves, it was nurturing, healing, enlightening. We were a unit, we gave in to each other. We cried our hearts out, we laughed with glee. We were there. We were in for it. And we got it.
I'm not allowed to tell anyone how Cobra Breath works, how to do it. But it involves visualization, internal body muscle locks, specific physical breathing techniques, and conscious awareness of energy flowing through your body. It comes in, it goes out. Not everyone continues the practice. It is not that easy to do. You have to do prep work, stretches, a specific internal simple passive mantra with breathing, sexual stimulation breathing and root locking, and then you do cobra breath. You can't just sit and do it, you need to do the steps before you do the breath.
Everything has to be worked into and not thrown in. Kundalini Syndrome is real. You can get it as a kid if you suffer a major fall and back injury. Or some other thing that happens to you, it can throw you off balance and you wind up with the syndrome. Cobra breath can heal you from it and open up the blocks so that you don't suffer from it anymore.
I attended a seminar for breathing techniques that are based in tantric breathing, where the goal is to increase saliva production because saliva, that is rich in proteins, can help prevent and fight cancer. The teacher actually works at a cancer center at a major hospital in the area. While there, a woman probably in her 20s said she focuses so intensely on breathing, and making sure she's breathing correctly, that she makes herself light headed and once passed out because she did it so seriously. I said to myself "girl, you're doing it all wrong!" The instructor said the same to her. Its not about the accuracy of it, its about the PRACTICE of it. If you take it too seriously, it can fuck you over, big time. A guy at our cobra breath retreat kept saying the 3 days we were there: "look, kriya yoga and cobra breath, its just one tool in the tool kit you use to bring balance to your life. Don't focus too much on it, don't obsess over the accuracy of it, do the practice the best you can and believe in what you are doing, know it can help, but don't rely on it as the greatest thing you've ever done, because then it can hurt you, big time." Wise words.
I'm not trying to say "all this shit is easy and if you take it too seriously you can hurt yourself" but kind of yah, if you take anything too seriously, you can hurt yourself. Don't do something too intense if you aren't ready for it. All these workshops sometimes don't take into account that the attendees are new at this and don't know how to meditate at all. Everything in moderation. I worked on the root practices before receiving cobra breath for over 2 years before I felt ready. I do the breath not daily, but almost daily. There were people in our workshop retreat who had never heard of the guide book before, and just signed up. They had a good time, but they don't do cobra breath at all anymore, some never did it again after they left the workshop (we met online, I found out from them they quit). While they didn't get hurt, they hadn't really prepped for it.
I recommend this book, its called "The Jewel in the Lotus" and I think its a safe, honest, strong way to achieve a meditative state that is based in human biological science, it involves pretty simple practices, it does not make you feel bad, and its all pretty easy to do.
I follow meditation news a decent bit and heard about this article but never read it because it was in French, however I forgot about translation abilities online!!! Thanks @zentai for linking it here
No,it is not imo.
Depends how much you believe in the likes of kundalini. I’ve read many things that make sense,then I’ll come across something like - kundalini awakenings give you special powers like telepathy and teleportation and I’ll think ohhh stfu! That’s not to diminish anyone else’s personal experience with things like kundalini syndrome. Another example is those who dont believe in religion or gods,therefore don’t believe in goddess kali,and by extension couldn’t possibly believe kundalini is real. A lot of this stuff is subjective and come down to who a person is within themselves.
For me,the super o is the ability to tap into reserves of pleasure that were made secondary by nature. Nature provided attraction,sex drive,sensitive nerves and orgasm to encourage us to reproduce. Prostate massage induced orgasms,chain o’s and and super o’s aren’t necessary for reproduction therefore are secondary. Traditional penile pleasure,orgasm/ejaculation through stimulation of the Glans and penis are more a primary necessity for reproduction,though is somewhat limited in how much pleasure is produced,as fading occurs after ejaculation. With women,orgasm is not necessary for reproduction at all yet most tend to learn to be multi orgasmic first out of the sexes,again,even though not necessary,is almost limitless. On my journey I’ve learned to tap into those reserves of pleasure whose power limited by ejaculation and the hormone system shut down,refractory periods and reboot. I climbed more and more with painstaking research,trial and error,training and practice. Whilst I’m open minded about the spiritual side of things,i don’t feel vibrations and life force running through me. I don’t believe meditation or coiled this and Chakra that was responsible. I worked and worked at it until I figured it out which pieces of the puzzle fitted where so my rewiring would bridge the gap between primary and secondary.