Ok, first off let me preface this by saying I'm not sure why I'm posting this at all here,perhaps it helps to see if others experience similar? not sure.
I really don't understand when some of you state time and time again "i had several dry o's" or "i had two dry o's and a few supers!"
I have never been able to identify if i have had one because what i experience when i do 'orgasm' perhaps the reason i have been so unsure, is actually a one long, ceaseless, continual orgasm. I don't have one that lasts x amount of time and then there is a period of waiting and then another appears but rather i orgasm and it stays there for the entire session. Usually when it subsides it does not return, except in aless where it seems to last hours upon hours.
The thing is, the orgasm is very nice but its not amazing, earth shattering etc. I believe i may have been mistaking it for pwaves in the past (who knows, might still be those?)
Anyway, there it is.
Dry O's for me are actual tip of the penis real orgasm sensations with a pump to them. These occur when I transition from the pleasurable do nothing background sensations of a long pleasurable but not "peaking" session (although sometimes I get strong P-waves). It usually comes when my body involuntarily tenses and sucks the device deeper, then my cock gets rock hard and literally pumps with an orgasm. The longer I go the more sensitive it tends to get and more pleasurable. It can be manipulated with some tension to kick it up a notch but that risks transitioning into a HFWO for me. If I can add a tad of tension and wait a second then release before the point of no return into a HFWO my body begins the orgasm but doesn't finish it (just short of risk of HFWO), it allows my next "pumps" to feel even stronger - sometimes the sensation is so powerful that I lose breath and tears start forming. That is when I am leaking all over and precum is running off my belly onto the mattress. I am sweating and panting all over and straining to say OMG.
Wow that sounds amazing. For me I haven't had something go that far. Sorena, I am not sure how long you have been doing this. I've only been at it 15 months but only the past few weeks after countless sessions and many overnights to the extent one would say I'm addicted I'm sure, that I am achieving a med pleasant wash of pleasure through the Pelvis and stomach, sometimes into the spine even and down the legs? After about 2 hours it starts focusing to root of penis and up the surface. All of it is pleasurable and I have zero expectation of any more than this. It is a wash of good feeling almost or exceeds the orgasm, and seems to sustain itself for long lengths of time. As neros had already stated, it could be construed as a super o. If you have a preconceived idea that the super o means you thrash around and fall off the bed then it's your belief which is leaving you disappointed. You may feel that regularly someday. Maybe I will too. Then again maybe not. If not do you care? I couldn't tell you if what I had is a p wave an mmo or a super. I just know that it feels amazing and ithe keeps on giving. Like a smile across the abdomen aND I feel energized, confident, and fulfilled. Don't wait to thrash to think you have arrived. Read Neros comments again on the myth of super orgasm and b's keys to the backdoor on aless. Enjoy the ride:)
Today it's like riding it's a small world, someday later it maybe like riding Aerosmith rock in rollercoaster. Remember you gotta be tall enough for the ride first. 😉
One of the things that started doing
Speeding up the pleasure of my sessions was the peridise. I've been using the smallest one almost since the beginniNH about 9 months into my rewiring. It was like adding nitro to my progress. Has made an amazing difference to my helix sessions as has manually ensuring I have the deepest and most anterior placement of the head inside me (helix). Then just relaxing and eventually laying flat on my back, breathing and reaping the rewards of patience and curiosity. My helix is tail less.
Dry O's for me are actual tip of the penis real orgasm sensations with a pump to them. These occur when I transition from the pleasurable do nothing background sensations of a long pleasurable but not "peaking" session (although sometimes I get strong P-waves). It usually comes when my body involuntarily tenses and sucks the device deeper, then my cock gets rock hard and literally pumps with an orgasm. The longer I go the more sensitive it tends to get and more pleasurable. It can be manipulated with some tension to kick it up a notch but that risks transitioning into a HFWO for me. If I can add a tad of tension and wait a second then release before the point of no return into a HFWO my body begins the orgasm but doesn't finish it (just short of risk of HFWO), it allows my next "pumps" to feel even stronger - sometimes the sensation is so powerful that I lose breath and tears start forming. That is when I am leaking all over and precum is running off my belly onto the mattress. I am sweating and panting all over and straining to say OMG.
As you describe it, its the same for me. The pumping though isn't like ejaculatory pumping, its more just from being super hard (i think) i could be wrong though! yes i feel it in my penis tip as well. However its not as good as any powerful ejaculation i would say.
I wonder.... @superoh3 do you find you only feel orgasmic/good levels of pleasure if your penis is super hard, or even just hard? i find that i can only achieve this level if my penis is rock hard
Well for me, it feels best once I get rock hard. Earlier on and sometimes as my cock waxes and wanes through varying degrees of erection my dick feels very good like it is so full of blood that it is driving this mildly orgasmic tingling or numb sensation through the cock. While pleasurable it is different than when I enter into this orgasm mode that I call for myself the "o-zone". Once in the o-zone I can ride it for an hour or two of near continuous actual cock pumping orgasms, yet without cumming. I ooze precum during that period and I do get shakes and some thrusting adds to the sensations too. I'm no longer just passively laying there using the do-nothing technique and getting a hard cock that feels good which subsides and returns - that occurs as I approach the sensitivity level required for the o-zone. I still consider these just on-going dry orgasms as the super o - for me, which is different for everyone, is when my whole body erupts in p-waves so intense that it feels more like a drug induced full body orgasm.
Also, now that I am getting more experienced I can get into that o-zone pretty much every session, but I have found the smaller devices able to sustain and enhance the orgasms much more powerfully and easily. The larger devices seem to dampen the experience with too much pressure. The eupho provides just enough tickle to keep building arousal. I tend to accidentally enter a HFWO during the o-zone with the larger models as when I tense the larger model must push the button easier than the eupho, so to speak. It's all very pleasurable. I still do seek out that super o sensation, however. But when I'm in the o-zone I am sweating, grinding around, moaning in high pitches (no idea why lol), and just slathered in precum.
I just settle in to enjoy each ride and when I feel a slight sensation in my ass cheeks and my thighs like they want to tense up I resist. I keep resisting it because I know I am nearly ready for o-zone but its not quite ready, if I commit to the tension too early it just sucks in and clamps down and feels good but doesn't get into cascading dry o's. After I find myself getting tired of the session maybe but still feeling good and that need to tense up I let my body take over and it kicks it off.
I should add that after a while in the o-zone I can maintain the orgasms and pumping sensation while my cock is semi-flaccid too! Definitely prostate driven. Also, I have never entered into convulsions like some of those videos. Would be nice and it might be possible. When my cock wants to do repeated lurches like it is the push-pull quick and dirty path to the super o it seems that it could build into that but hasn't yet.
Also, my dry o's while in the zone are stronger by far than regular orgasm.
Also, my dry o's while in the zone are stronger by far than regular orgasm.
I should feel good for you but tbh this bit pisses me off. I can't say the same, the feelings aren't even the same let alone comparable. If it's far better/stronger why bother ejaculating eh? You in a relationship too?
Yeah, I'm married. There is something to be had with the intimacy and connection with another that you shouldn't discount. I also derive a lot of pleasure from making sure her needs are met - I'm a giver type. But my raw sexual satisfaction - ending in a HFWO - is best experienced during an intense session. Combining the two is the best of both worlds.
It took a while to get to where I am, almost a couple years. It really is just giving your particular body time and approaching it with a relaxed and curious/open mind every time. Frustration will stunt your growth more than anything. A bad day can ruin a session so I know what mood is right for them as well. That is an important aspect - practice being calm and zen in all areas of life can assist in becoming a much more consistently and stronger multi-orgasmic kind of guy. Just my .02.
Yeah, I'm married. There is something to be had with the intimacy and connection with another that you shouldn't discount. I also derive a lot of pleasure from making sure her needs are met - I'm a giver type. But my raw sexual satisfaction - ending in a HFWO - is best experienced during an intense session. Combining the two is the best of both worlds.
It took a while to get to where I am, almost a couple years. It really is just giving your particular body time and approaching it with a relaxed and curious/open mind every time. Frustration will stunt your growth more than anything. A bad day can ruin a session so I know what mood is right for them as well. That is an important aspect - practice being calm and zen in all areas of life can assist in becoming a much more consistently and stronger multi-orgasmic kind of guy. Just my .02.
very true, hard to put into practice sadly. I agree regarding eupho, I also find the zini medium like a eupho only better.
If your erection were sustained do you think you could stay in that zone?
Well, I stay in that zone for an hour or two if desired. It's like my body will shake slightly like quivering muscles (not the violent epileptic seizures on some vids) and then tense and my cock will go into dry o's for a minute or so, then rest for like 20 to 40 seconds and repeat. So I consider that cycle staying in the zone.
But when I typed originally in this thread it got my turned on for a session. So I went and had one... and it went exceptionally well and at one point one of those dry o's became so intense I couldn't control it and I thought it was going to sustain and go full body or I was going to blow a huge load. Neither happened but it gives me thought that as I progress my body will continue to give more pleasure as it has consistently grown the pleasure over the last couple years.
The first six months though I was not having consistent pleasure and I was always manually trying to clinch and flex to get action and sensation. Some pleasure came from that but nothing that would grow because it wasn't organic. Then I learned about do-nothing which allowed me to relax. That is when things developed. A baseline of pleasure emerged. That baseline continues to get more intense as I practice with more powerful p-waves, etc. But this o-zone deal is rather new once I downsized to the eupho. I balance now between helix and eupho whereas before I would balance more between helix and progasm. Something about that size helps tickle it out of my prostate.
What positions work for you?
I lay on my back with my legs bent and feet flat, with a pillow folded up under my lower back and butt. That allows free movement for everything and I can stimulate my nipples - my erections don't rub on anything like when I am on my side which is distracting. Once I hit the o-zone though I have found myself getting on all fours lol
I lay on my back with my legs bent and feet flat, with a pillow folded up under my lower back and butt. That allows free movement for everything and I can stimulate my nipples - my erections don't rub on anything like when I am on my side which is distracting. Once I hit the o-zone though I have found myself getting on all fours lol
not cut your tail off the eupho then?
Nah, its still on there.
Nah, its still on there.
I guess do nothing is the way forward then. Well done.
Yeah with the pillows under the small of the back the tail can be left on. The pillow is unnecessary though if you take the tail off. I still have tail on my helix syn so I only use that on y side as I just haven't found the pillows very comfortable for me. Been thinking bout takin the syn tailless but I wanted to establish a stronger baseline with classic before I do it. Then lay back and focus on the pleasure and serif you can use your mind to run the muscles like a swing to take you higher.
I've been doing it for about 5/6 years now and it's just about getting there. I do about two sessions most days. While some are duds and go nowhere, most of them now are becoming really amazing. I lie on my left side with my right leg at 90degrees and a raised cushion . Immediately after putting the Aneros in, I feel a warm pleasant glow in my abdomen. But as soon as I get into position, the awesome orgasmic sensation begins and I have to hold my breath to sustain it for a few seconds. Then the erection begins and as it gets harder, it introduces a tingling sensation that further drives the erection harder still.
Then my penis might begin to pump slow and hard with each pump push intense like an ejaculation jerk. But it's dry and continues with contraction jerk squeezing with exquisite pleasure. It may die down for a while, especially if I begin to think of something unrelated. But I stretch my legs and resume the side position and it all begins again. It is very addictive and I find that I neglect things I should be doing!
The orgasm for me is MY super- o. There may be better experiences not yet had but I'm very contented with what I've got.
Well, I stay in that zone for an hour or two if desired. It's like my body will shake slightly like quivering muscles (not the violent epileptic seizures on some vids) and then tense and my cock will go into dry o's for a minute or so, then rest for like 20 to 40 seconds and repeat. So I consider that cycle staying in the zone.
But when I typed originally in this thread it got my turned on for a session. So I went and had one... and it went exceptionally well and at one point one of those dry o's became so intense I couldn't control it and I thought it was going to sustain and go full body or I was going to blow a huge load. Neither happened but it gives me thought that as I progress my body will continue to give more pleasure as it has consistently grown the pleasure over the last couple years.
The first six months though I was not having consistent pleasure and I was always manually trying to clinch and flex to get action and sensation. Some pleasure came from that but nothing that would grow because it wasn't organic. Then I learned about do-nothing which allowed me to relax. That is when things developed. A baseline of pleasure emerged. That baseline continues to get more intense as I practice with more powerful p-waves, etc. But this o-zone deal is rather new once I downsized to the eupho. I balance now between helix and eupho whereas before I would balance more between helix and progasm. Something about that size helps tickle it out of my prostate.
Hi @Superoh3,
It sounds like your super-o experience is very similar to mine, where I feel as if it could go on for hours. It is truly magnificent. If you are feeling what I am feeling, I am very HAPPY for you! I think I'm about 19 months into this journey and I've found that the pleasure has increased month after month. I'd be happy with the level I'm at but I am also optimistic that I'll continue to reach new levels of pleasure as time goes on, with and without Aneros.
I enjoyed reading your experiences and I also began experiencing P-Waves while I was reading. Thanks for the post and the P-Waves!
:)) :))
I Have recently re dedicated to the AnerosAfter years of lay off (long story) Not sure what is going on with me. I start out by protocall on the side relax and breathe then i roll on to my back and raise my legs a little bending my knees. Last session I started a few contractions held on to the tip of my soft cock and pinched my nipples a little. this went on for a while and things where feeling good, then my legs started trembling for three to five seconds, it would stop and then would start again more intense and my upper legs and groin would tremble and shake for 5-10 seconds. this happened 5 or 6 times and then i got distracted and everything stopped. My question is was I on to something or where my leg muscles trembling from fatigue because of the position. Today I tried again same routine and The trembling almost started I could feel it coming on same as before but it stopped. I think I tried to force it to happen and shut it down. Got to this point twice and same thing happened. Then the phone rang twice in a row and ruined everything. I had been going for almost an hour and my daughter was due home soon so I packed it up. My cock never got hard, I do leek pre cum Did anyone else experiance the leg and groin trembling in the begining? Going to give things a rest for a few days I think I tried to force it tonight and contracted way to many times a little sore down there.Thanks for any advise.
For myself, the trembling took a while to develop and earlier on I experienced it without associated pleasure. As time passes and you continue to explore your curiosity and pursue sexual arousal and pleasurable sensations your body will find it easier and easier to get that pleasure. Trembling and shakes don't necessarily mean pleasure, and I experienced them in the beginning - but then they went away for about the mid 80% of my 2 year journey so far when I was purely in the do-nothing technique. Doing that I kept getting stronger baseline pleasure and good p-waves. That is still a vital part of the process for me, and I think that part of the journey allowed my body to organically adapt to the stimulation in a natural way that allowed absorption and digestion of the new pathways to pleasure. Only recently have the slight trembling re-emerged which tends to signal to me that my prostate and body is containing great pleasure and ready to go into continuous dry o's.
Also, glad to hear someone with a similar experience to me Longshanks. It's this wonderful place that I can't believe can be attained nearly at will with an hour and some relaxing. I am curious, what model do you use to get in the zone? Seems the eupho works for me wonderfully.
its easy to be happy for someone when you're own progress is going well.
i feel some of us here do things right and don't get the results we deserve as both males but also as spiritual, adventurous human beings. It is not fair (nothing in life is blah blah) but its true, being denied such things is cruel and those having great success add to that feeling of cruelty (whilst not in their intention to do so).
I hope that makes things clear form some of our perspectives.
Also, glad to hear someone with a similar experience to me Longshanks. It's this wonderful place that I can't believe can be attained nearly at will with an hour and some relaxing. I am curious, what model do you use to get in the zone? Seems the eupho works for me wonderfully.
@superoh3, Yes, it is a wonderful thing. It took a long while to get to where I am, but I've truly enjoyed every minute of the journey. Early on, I had many sessions that didn't even approach orgasm but they did provide some pleasurable experiences, enough to make me want to continue. :">
To answer your question:
I use a rotation of 3 devices. Primarily, I use Eupho Syn. I also use Helix. I also use Peridise. On the rare occasion I'll use a Progasm Black Ice.
I'd estimate 60% of the time, I use Eupho Syn
25%-Peridise
10% Helix
5% PG Black
I've had my strongest Super-O with the PG but I've had the most with the Eupho Syn.
@Sorena_,
Jealousy, envy and frustrated feelings are only going to slow your progress and may prevent you from achieving your goal.
Same experience regarding size. The eupho is a consistent super-o device which can be sustained for what seems like until I am physically exhausted. The progasm has given me the most 'intense' session but it so hit and miss that I almost rarely pull it out - but I do on occasion because something in my brain says more size = more stimulation = more orgasm. Seeing as I don't have a peridise my breakdown is like 75% eupho, 20% helix, 5% progasm ice.
Hi @Sorena,
the discussion went a lot about personal experiences and I want to give a more objective explanation to your questions...
I
really don't understand when some of you state time and time again "i
had several dry o's" or "i had two dry o's and a few supers!"
Well, the big problem in general is, that most
of the terms used here have never been defined very precisely and
everybody uses them on the base of personal interpretation. That's the
perfect seed for a lot of misunderstandings. If you read my entry in the My First Super Orgasm...
-thread, you may recall, that I defined the different types of orgasms
according to nerval arousal/muscle work/body own drugs. With these
criteria in mind, you are able to distinguish the different orgasmic
outcomes.
I
have never been able to identify if i have had one because what i
experience when i do 'orgasm' perhaps the reason i have been so unsure,
is actually a one long, ceaseless, continual orgasm.
What most of the users mean, when they write statements as you mentioned
above, is: they entered a basic orgasmic state (I would call it the
o-zone). This can happen with a big kick (Super-O) or very slowly and
almost unnoticed (calm seas-o). The second is true for me ~90% of the
time and it seems to be the case for you too. So... you now linger in
this gernal orgasmic state - it's not amazing, but a solid base to build
on. The funny thing about MMO's is, that there is not just one level of
orgasmic intensity. From traditional ejaculative O's we are used to
cross the threshold and what comes next is all there is. That's not the
case with MMO's... once you passed the threshold and linger in the
o-zone you can amplify your arousal respectively your orgams
(potentially) infinitely. That's why veteran users still revel about new
hights although their first super-o lays years in the past.
I wanted to paint a quick and dirty sketch of what I mean, but then i
recognized, that the forum has no such function (in contrast to the
chat). 🙁 So, I hope I am able to paint you a picture with words
instead...
Try
to imagine the o-zone as a relaxing backrub, the "several dry-o's" as
occasional goose-bump-shivers along the way and a super-o as a full body
mega-shiver.
The thing
is, the orgasm is very nice but its not amazing, earth shattering etc. I
believe i may have been mistaking it for pwaves in the past (who knows,
might still be those?)
I don't think you confuse p-waves with orgams. Like I said earlier, I guess what you experience is a prolonged o-zone but without a super-o
(by super-o, I don't mean large muscle spasms, but a big rush of body
own drugs, that sends you flying like on heroin) or Dry-O's (pumping
pelvis that feels like ejaculation but remains dry).
I don't
know what you do, when you arrive in this state. Do you just relax? Do
you observe or try to push sensations or do you try to build more
arousal mentally? Keep in mind that the ride is not at it's peak just
because you entered the first orgasmic level. You can climb further
anytime!
P.S.: Ech... the layout is fucked up again... the editor can't handle long drafts it seems. Reminder to myself: pre-type and copy-and-paste next time...