I Need Help Tracking Down an Aneros E-Book

That sounds suspiciously like "The Open Orgasm Developing the Harmonic Male Sexual Response". An anonymous epub document which I found on google drive, but the link is unfortunately dead. I have a copy, it weighs 34mb.

@lanoix 

That might be it !  From my understanding this is a public domain work (?) Can you put it somewhere online so people can get to it ? 

An instruction book lol 🙂

@helghast 

Yes ! Don't you like instruction manuals ? 

If I remember right, it did tell you where to start and where to go, it was a complete system. At the time I thought I had figured almost everything, and some elements were similar to what I was doing, so I did not want to get things mixed-up as I worked on my own stuff. I should have at least contacted the guy who posted it on Reddit to ask him if he was the author...  Meh. 

@zentai

Yes of course,I just mused if the author thought he’d found the silver bullet.

Well, if he took the time to write an actual book, he thought he had something. I remember feeling weird because it was like the guy had pilfered from my own notes, which is obviously not possible since no one got to see them... That's why I did not read the book at the time, I wanted to keep doing everything on my own and discover everything all by myself. Dumb, I know...

Like *I* had the silver bullet, and not some other dude. Which is why I said in another thread that "One True Path" is the domain of fools. It holds us back.

Plus, I was somewhere in my "Super-O fiend" period and my bookkeeping from that time is not very good, which is probably why I lost the file in the first place.    

@zentai

There you go... (the link is only good for 30 days):

https://ufile.io/26j7j30v

@lanoix 

Oh yes, that's the one ! Thanks a lot ! 

If you guys want to download it, make sure your anti-virus software is working, I got some flags from the download site, but all the free file sharing sites are a bit like this so that's expected... Just know what you're doing. 

I'm also happy to see my mind still works, I had most of the details right hehe.  

Posted by: @zentai

"One True Path" is the domain of fools.

Love this. I believe ppl should never over commit to one style. Cherry pick from all styles to build a tool shed!

@helghast 

Credit goes to @Helical for coining the term and getting the ball rolling. 

@zentai All hail the the mighty @helical!!

Again, many thanks to lanoix for coming in for the clutch, or whatever people say these days. Some of these documents are crazily hard to track down. One day I'll tell a story about a French book that is peripherally about S-Os, that I was not even sure really existed. I felt like I was a Miskatonic University scholar when I got my hands on it from, ironically, an Arab language website. I think I had some kind of researchgasm, hehe. 

Anyway, I went through the book, and while I do not agree as strongly with some things as I did back then, it's still pretty thought provoking. I don't think a programmable vibrator is the gate to the Super-Os, but the use of music, associative triggers / conditioning, trance states are all very interesting tools. Some ideas would be very worthy of a closer inspection and discussion here.

Here's a PDF I made of the document, which might be easier to use:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nAJieZW6tbNtHjI8AAIaJ8AARzveYTug/view?usp=sharing

Cheers!

@charlie5 

That's great ! Thanks for hosting it, too. 

Pretty quick read and there are some neat perspectives. I especially resonated with the "imagine yourself as a woman" which I have done on a few occasions. So many cool avenues to explore in the quest for a Super-O!

Oh, and since I am easily persuaded I ordered an Edge 2. Haha!

Posted by: @reddog152

I especially resonated with the "imagine yourself as a woman" which I have done on a few occasions.

The "sexual pleasure sympathy" thing was a new concept to me, and it makes sense. On the other hand, I'm steadily moving entirely away from porn, so this might be of little value at the moment. But I'm pretty sure just knowing this could prove to be useful at some point. More tools in the toolbox ! 

There are other interesting ideas, while I find the comparison between men and women's sexual responses interesting, on the physiological end of things we'll only ever experience Super-Os as men in our male bodies. There would have been a good parallel to make with our own dud sessions and some women having issues reaching orgasms. 

Rational Unpredictability, mainly the "hydraulics" part of it regarding fluid pressure, goes much further than simply thinking about an engorged prostate. Pseudo-science ? I really don't know; it feels like it would make sense... It's pretty thought provoking. 

Some things I don't agree with is Super-O / meditation states being akin to schizophrenia, and the focus on complete detachment vs mindfulness and focus. Obviously, there are several roads to the Super-O, but this felt like a bizarre way to approach things.

Nor do I think that some people just have numb prostates and won't be able to achieve success. 

From what I understand, the author feels you should see results in Exploration Sessions (invols or even Os) after only 2 weeks of training the 6 main exercises and then going with the Lovense. Is this realistic ? At my most optimistic, I believed that someone doing all the right things under the best circumstances would need 3 months to really get the ball rolling. The Mindgasm folks put you on a 30 days program from porn addict to S-Os or close to it.

So, is this method more effective than all the others ? You need a $170 Lovense to get that particular answer. I also don't know if the Lovense results would carry over to Aneros practice, and one thing is sure, the Aneros just allows more freedom of movement and acrobatics. Still, a Super-O is a Super-O...  

What do you guys think ? 

@zentai, yeah some of it was a bit optimistic. I did end up ordering the Edge 2. I clicked on the link and they were having a sale, $99 so I figured with that discount why not!?

@reddog152 

$99 seems to be quite a good deal. I'm sure it will be an enjoyable purchase, and since you're already pretty far in your practice, I would not be surprised at all if you get Super-Os out of it.

I'm just thinking out loud here, I don't know if this particular device is more of a "Silver Bullet" than any other. For example, I tried several vibrating toys and while some got me close, they were not game changers in my case. But... while it looks like the original Edge would not have stayed in place all that well, the 2 has a much better shape. And the adjustable angle makes a lot of sense to me. So, it opens up more possibilities for positions. Of course, I never tried the Edge 1 and I'm just going by feel here. Tuning to music would probably be very interesting in my case... I guess we'll be waiting for your review, hehe ! 

@zentai, yeah, I've never had much success with vibrating toys either but I'm hopeful. Now the interminable wait for it to arrive. . . . . . . . . .haha

Posted by: @charlie5

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Here's a PDF I made of the document, which might be easier to use:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nAJieZW6tbNtHjI8AAIaJ8AARzveYTug/view?usp=sharing

 

Cheers!

Thank you friend! ePub was not familiar to me. 

Guys, thanks for bringing this book to me.  Some things I'd experienced, like the harmonic sexual response, but I hadn't known the term nor expressed it with the author's precision. Now that the author had laid out harmonic vs. satiating pleasure, I think "but of course!" That's how learning works, sometimes.  @zentai, I don't think I saw you remark on the harmonic concept ; )

Posted by: @helical

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 @zentai, I don't think I saw you remark on the harmonic concept ; )

 I'd have to go back to the book to check, but my own understanding was that  in that context, "harmonics" was basically a feedback loop / self-feeding Super-O state, which is what I've been saying for a while. The "Open Orgasm" would happen while in a state of "Harmonic Sexual Response", and this harmonic response comes from the "full feeling" of various aroused glands and will be sustained as long as you can maintain that state of fullness without a release.  

I feel it's just using different terms. Some people might see no separation and only experience the Super-O itself. Other times,  there is a transition point where you are in a state where there is potential for a Super-O, which is what I call almost-almost, close but "not there yet". And we could argue that being in a Super-O state will not necessarily mean that you are, in fact, experiencing a Super-O. Maybe all this these things are one in the same, with different intensities. Almost-almost could also be interpreted as a resistance point somewhere in the S-O spectrum. 

All that being said, I agree that entering a state of self-feeding arousal while avoiding the satiation part (refractory period) is one way to reach S-Os, so I feel the harmonic concept is a worthwhile way to explain the S-O mechanism.