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Hi all, 

So I'm new to prostate massage. Incredibly excited about this journey and the healing I feel it will bring me. I haven't been able to get an actual aneros massager as it cannot be delivered to my location so I went to a local shop and just got whatever they had there. I've a couple sessions with it so far. The first was very painful and uncomfortable, but the last few I managed to tap into the whole relaxation aspect of it and I am better understanding the connection and how it works. 

I've been off porn for many many years as I stopped masturbating a long time ago so I had no need for it. The tricky part about prostate massage for me is from what I understand it requires a completely relaxed state PLUS arousal. The relaxed state coincides with my spiritual practices, but implementing the arousal state is difficult for me I don't have experience with this. So I introduced porn in my sessions. Which is nice. It adds the arousal element if I'm watching something that turns me on. But I start to get horny and "build" on that, so whenever my arousal dips during the session it feels like I'm crashing and I need to "keep it up" if that makes sense. So I keep watching more porn jumping from video to video. This kind of reminds me of the "high" I would get from masturbation long ago. Which doesn't seem to be the goal. Anyway, the last few sessions I actually managed to come to orgasm without touching the penis. However I did ejaculate every time. So I assume I'm doing something wrong. The horniness builds until I eventually want to lay face down, the pressure on my genitals helps keep the arousal "up".  I was very please and surprised I managed to orgasm without actually touching or stroking my penis. But if I'm ejaculating I think I'm doing something wrong. So any advice would be greatly appreciated. My guess is that I'm dipping too much into the regular patterns and habits of orgasm with ejaculation and not enough in the relaxation side of it. But I don't know/understand how to implement arousal into this relaxed meditative state. At times I feel the horniness building up and I start to breath and relax again which brings me back to a more body-oriented state rather than mental. Which is nice and feels more in line with everything I've read.. but then I lose the arousal aspect and I'm just laying there with a massager up my ass relaxing, but not feeling like I'm doing anything arousing or sexual. 

Any guidance or tips would be greatly appreciated thanks so much!


   
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My definition of "arousal" widened over time. For example, my penis can be completely flaccid while my prostate is humming and begging to be touched. I can feel my prostate or anus slightly throbbing (if not physically, then electrically), sending warm little ripples of pleasure across my whole body, along with the passionate desire to feel more of that, but stronger. To me, this is being "prostate horny". But that sense didn't develop overnight... it's the culmination of having new and unexpected experiences. And that's what you need to open yourself up for. At least sometimes. Be prepared to sit quietly and listen, and pretend you don't know what comes next. These things can start out very small, and grow very slowly... which isn't always compatible with chasing the maximum amount of pleasure in the moment.

But have fun, and enjoy what you can from the experience. It's the fun that makes the journey worthwhile, and it'll save you from getting frustrated with the learning curve. What I used to do, was dedicate a portion of my session to discovering new sensations. It was some relaxing down-time without the sexual "need". I had an agreement with myself that my sexual needs would be pursued at the next stage of the session, but for now, we're just going to explore and see what happens.

And after enough of these sessions, maybe the arousal and pleasure you desire has morphed into something else... something different than you imagined in the beginning.


   
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Part of re-wiring to me was learning that arousal is two-fold. On one side i might imagine some sexual fantasy in my mind. But that is hard to keep going constantly. So,what I was left with was learning to use the sensations as fuel for arousal to make up for the times when fantasy has wandered off for a stroll. 

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So I keep watching more porn jumping from video to video.

This might be stopping you from driving forward,as your concentrating on chopping and changing videos,and not concentrating enough on ‘listening’ to any sensations being generated. Technically,the sensations can be enough on they’re own with enough practice.

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ut if I'm ejaculating I think I'm doing something wrong.

Maybe the porn is spiking arousal too fast. Or contracting too hard can do aswell. So can lack of kegel training and poor control of the pelvic floor. Or it’s simply a case of lack of experience.

In any case,keep us updated with your progress.


   
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Welcome to the forum.

Arousal can come from many places.  While porn is tempting, I recommend against it, except for possibly having the SOUND on without the image.

Here are some alternative arousal methods:

-nipple play

-body caressing

-self hypnosis

... and this:

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/arousal-building-methods/

But you are early in your journey.  Just keep at it, and if you want to avoid ejaculation, it might help to not turn face down.  Contact with your erect penis might lead to your ejaculation pathways, at least in the beginning.  And like @clenchy says, arousal is not necessarily connected to erections.  Through listening to sensations, as @helghast aptly says, you will discover different arousal pathways.


   
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First, I'd like to also welcome you to our little community. @clenchy, @helghast & @divine_o have all given you some excellent insight.

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I keep watching more porn jumping from video to video.

Viewing pornography during an Anerosession may be counter productive as it engages your consciousness to focus on the action taking place in front of your eyes. You may be so mentally engaged with evaluating, judging and projecting yourself into the action that you forget or ignore your own body's sensations/reactions to the massager within you. IMHO, this is a trap. However, visual pornography employed to create arousal before starting an Anerosession may be beneficial. I invite you to read the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention for more information related to building arousal and also @divine_o 's thread Arousal building methods.

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...the last few sessions I actually managed to come to orgasm without touching the penis. However I did ejaculate every time. So I assume I'm doing something wrong. ...So any advice would be greatly appreciated. My guess is that I'm dipping too much into the regular patterns and habits of orgasm with ejaculation and not enough in the relaxation side of it.

I think your guess is probably mostly correct but there may be other factors influencing this as well. You may find some additional help reading the following threads : How to avoid ejaculation?, How to avoid handsfree wet orgasms , Avoiding ejaculation during orgasm? , Hands free ejaculation being an obstacle & Cumming while lying face down

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I don't know/understand how to implement arousal into this relaxed meditative state. ... but then I lose the arousal aspect and I'm just laying there with a massager up my ass relaxing, but not feeling like I'm doing anything arousing or sexual. Any guidance or tips would be greatly appreciated thanks so much!

There are two basic approaches to prostate massage with these massagers : 1.) Employ active contraction exercises in order to create fatigue induced involuntary spasms (orgasms). or 2.) The Do Nothing method, which is a slight misnomer (please see "Do Nothing" What does that mean?). Both of these methods essentially require you to consciously focus inward on your sensations. It is this focused attention which allows the subtle sensations to become amplified to orgasmic intensity.

 

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I'm new to prostate massage. Incredibly excited about this journey and the healing I feel it will bring me.

It is interesting that you open your post here mentioning "healing" which indicates to me you are aware of the prostate's role as an emotional energy center. If you are interested in the spiritual implications of prostate orgasms you may find the following interesting, Sacred Spot massage, Michael Winn's The Quest for Spiritual Orgasm. On the Forum, there are the threads Automatic tantra? & The Tao of Aneros.

Good Vibes to You!


   
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