How are Aless orgasms possible?

Does Aneros use strengthen the pelvic floor so that these pelvic floor muscles can squeeze the prostate to stimulate it to orgasm?

Doubt that's the reason. I've been fairly close of having dry-Os and I've never done any direct prostate stimulation, with or without the aneros.

@The_Bishop very good question! What came first; the chicken or the egg? Is it due to the Aneros that I'm having great Aless or is it because, after 22 months into my journey, my rewiring is advanced enough to allow me to think about and cultivate my Aless sessions? Would my Aless be as good if I never had an Aneros massager but massaged my prostate by other means? I can say, for me, Aneros was a big factor as all my back door experience started with their product.

The answers to your questions are as individual to each member as their sessions are. For me, the whole process of waking up my lazy prostate has helped my mind to open up to new paradigm. When I perform some Aless sessions, I'm able to feel my massager on my prostate even if I have nothing up my butt. Dropping all expectations and just enjoying my Aneros sessions also helped me in my Aless version.

I have stopped seeking 'a better way' in other member's success stories. I enjoy my sessions now with what makes me feel comfortable, position, thoughts, porn or not, fantasies, etc., not what makes others feel good. Is this key to good Aless? Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy reading evey posts from other members and seeing their progress.

One extremely big factor for me has been, with no doubt, the great effects of my Kegel exercises. It seems to me my Aless (and Aneros) experience has escalated tenfold since I really got serious about performing Kegels on a daily basis. For me, my Kegel Workout (see my previous post https://community.aneros.com/community/for...uts#post146658 ) took me to another level.

@The_Bishop let nature takes it's course. Go with what your body whispers to you.

I'm not sure this helped you but I do wish you good luck and vibes.

@The_Bishop, you're getting to the heart of the matter. If I really shall add my two cents, strengthened pelvic floor muscles may be one reason to achieve an Aless orgasm, but I believe the improvement of our awareness of the feelings down there are at least as important as any pelvic muscle training. Besides my rare use of my Aneros tools I only am exercising when having involuntaries. But thanks to another post here describing the sensation of the awakening gland as a dumb feeling in the abdomen, it has become much easier to me to locate it and to focus on it. And now - without any noticeable muscle contraction my gland awakes and produces this dumb feeling, telling me, here I am, let me take over and we'll have fun, lean back and enjoy! And I let go and find joy, pure joy!

This morning, while brushing my teeth, I visualized my balls as a pendulum moving in circles between my legs. This together with a little bending at my knees and a little rotating of my pelvis very soon induced some delicious vibes from my gland. Having had more time left I would have focused on those vibes what would have led to more p-waves and a standinggasm. My conclusion is, it's not as important to have strong pc-muscles as it is to teach the gland making use of them and learning to become aware of the pleasureful results. Thus I sometimes do my morning wash standing on one leg and rotating and bending the other one as felt remote controlled* by my gland, while sweet Aless starts with first involuntaries, feeling a bit like hick-up from pure pleasure.
* Or to use @GGringo's masterful phrase, "go(ing) with what your body whispers to you".

I have been very close to having one

Often I lost the vibes when feeling to be that close. Later I noticed the paradox that in these moments I "subconsciously tried to willingly" intensify the involuntaries induced by my gland. As if two subconscious controls interfered with each other this mostly spoiled the moment and sometimes my session. Then I decided to hold back the involuntaries the next time. The effect has been that this method helped me ignoring the involuntaries, instead focusing on and becoming one with the vibes and drifting away with them - sometimes reaching my sea of tranquility and bliss, a hovering state of sheer pleasure, also known as SuperO.

Good vibes to all of you, engage your gland, let go and enjoy!

I believe that once your pelvic muscles are developed and isolated to a high degree, either voluntarily contracting the different muscles, or involuntarily contracting done by the body itself can "squeeze" and/or "massage" the prostate to achieve pleasurable feelings and/or orgasm. This has been my experience, although everyone is different.

edit: As I was typing my post, @SOwithoutAneros posted this: but I believe the improvement of our awareness of the feelings down there are at least as important as any pelvic muscle training.

This is also very true as well...!

Hey @The_Bishop ,

Does Aneros use strengthen the pelvic floor so that these pelvic floor muscles can squeeze the prostate to stimulate it to orgasm?

Rather not. If it was just the squeezing, a big dildo would outclass the aneros easily. I believe that kegels and the use of the aneros "wake up" the nerves which control the muscles and along the way the nearby nerves responsible for sensing touch. When you learn a sport or any body-related skill, your brain has to build up muscle-memory, which just means, that it has to learn steering certain parts of your body with more ease than before. When you mastered the skill, the movements become "second nature", that means that your brain can rely on neuronal pathways it created earlier instead of creating an ad-hoc solution. That's the essence of learning. It's the "now, there is an app for that" of your brain.

Long story short:orgasmic escalation and orgasms itself are a neuronal phenomenon not a genital one. It's the brain doing the magic and since a brain can learn, it can learn to detach orgasmic response from your genitals. The key concept involved was phrased by daoists and tantrists this way: "Where the mind goes the Chi follows." Substitute Chi with nerves/nerval excitement and you get a down to earth explanation: you can spark nerval excitement by the sheer thought of it (with some learning involved of course).

IMHO, the reason the prostate is such a good lever for re-wiring is the nerve-density. Orgasmic response seems to rely on nerval excitement - the more nerves involved the better. That's why full-body orgasms are a thing. And that's why bodyparts with high nerve-density are so well suited for building up arousal - like genitals. And even there it was a learning process, we just tend to forget that. You didn't find your penis fascinating one day, touched it and BOOM, orgasm. No, you figured it felt good and kept exploring and after a while you eventually discovered orgasm by "accident". At least, that's how it went for me.

I don't claim to know "the truth"™, these are just my thoughts on the subject and they make a whole lot of sense to me. 🙂

Cheers, Unfug

Thanks, @Unfug, for sharing your insights in such a reasonable manner. Your thoughts make a whole lot of sense to me too, cause they not only match with each of my experiences but also give me a comprehensible explanation. To me you're at least nearer to "the truth"™ than anyone else so far. Good job!

@The_Bishop One of the best questions raised here in a while. I'm not sure I can add anything, but here goes. My Aless experiences were non-existent prior to my introduction to Aneros. So, yes, re-wiring definitely played a part. But I don't regularly practice my kegels, and still experience some extreme Aless. Why is that? I do notice, like @Unfug reasoned, that there is a "memory" component involved. I would go as far as to agree with @Unfug that there is a mind-element to an Aless orgasm, since I can seemingly bring one on just by thought.

That doesn't mean that I will throw-away all of my Aneros massagers. In fact, I just bought a new one (SGX) and will add it to my HIH 950. I found recently that my Aless was not too extreme, until I had a recent session (with MMOs) with the 950. Then, the Aless was fairly constant for a long time (probably 10-12 hours).

So I would say that there is a "prostate orgasm memory" at play here as well. Getting oneself in the right "arousal" mood helps to (mentally) stimulate the prostate to orgasm, either with or without a massager, IMHO. That is why you can have a "dud" session with Aneros or a "rocking" Aless session without! I've experienced both. Touche'.

@SOwithoutAneros SOwWhat is this dumb feeling you're talking about? I'd love to hear more about and possibly be led to where you learned it? Sounds like an interesting break through.

I believe its to do with becoming aware of your prostate. Its a mind and body thing but first you need to become aware of your body and its individual organs. Then you mind latches onto their existence and you start to sense them.

As an example lets say you have a pain or twinge or just feeling unwell somewhere in your body. You log onto the internet and find out you have something serious. You start to get the symptoms you read about on the internet. In sheer panic you go to your Medical Doctor only to be told its nothing. You go home and continue to feel the symptoms for sometime afterwards.

I think the Aneros devices wakening up the Prostate is just you becoming aware of its existence. Then your mind takes over and delivers the amazing sensations, which just keep getting better and better.

@Tatornator, here you are: "Prostate awakening?"
Perhaps @cko23 might like to share his further information sources he mentioned in his post.
To me, as English isn't my mother language, it's extremely difficult to describe it any further, but I'm fully with @cko23's description.
And it feels a bit like slightly blue balls feel or like your prostate tries to expand but is hindered by its environment.
Good luck with your vibes!

Aneros has awakened just about everything in the anal cavity and produces awesome sensations. Learned to breath and do levels in sync with breathing. Very important to learn to totally relax and focus. Over time you develop movements in the sphincter which cause anal orgasms both with and without Aneros inserted. I emphasize time as it doesn't happen immediately but one day you will be surprised at the results! Well worth the wait as the enjoyment is awesome!

A-less for me is far more about the mind than the body.

In many of his"readings" Edgar Cayce stated, "Mind is the Builder, Physical is the Result."Take your mind directly to how it feels when you are about to cum. Go ahead and pretend that you can make yourself that aroused and it WILL happen. You will be aroused. Let your body respond and you will begin to physically feel the result.

Focusing your mind on arousal, toward that which you feel when you have a traditional orgasm, activates sensations and involuntary minute contractions of pelvic, prostate and torso muscles. Hyper focus can lead to almost instant, deep contractions that are nearly identical to a normal O, without ejac but with pre cum, lots of it.
A-less is 2/3rds mental. Beautiful, endless and always available.

@The_Bishop, I appreciate very much your question on how to achieve Aless orgasms. I also appreciate all the insightful, thoughtful answers to your question.

After an amazing Aneros session which I had at sunrise this morning, I have had strong, sustained and "tight" Aless! I have been feeling at the PONR all this morning!

I believe before when one can achieve an Aless orgasm, one must lay the groundwork through consistent and regular Aneros sessions with lead to one's first Super-O's and MMO's. Having a regimen of Kegel Exercises is useful for strengthening the pelvic floor muscles and the anal sphincters. Various Aneros directions for use recommend such a regimen. See, Old version of Aneros Instruction, Stage 2 -- Contraction exercises: https://community.aneros.com/community/the-archives/learning-center-older-version-instructions

I have noticed that when I began achieving my first Super-O's and MMO's in September 2016 that I had reached a tipping point with my Aneros sessions. My sessions afterwards just got better and better! So did my Aless which interacts so well with Kegels and diddling my nipples. Likewise I began focusing upon the powerful, sweetness of my Aneros sessions and my Aless. This makes for powerful meditation.

While I have not yet achieved Aless orgasm, now just thinking or meditating upon Aless or softly diddling my nipples is enough to send me into orbit! 😉

@BigGlansDC This is what I learned recently about aless orgasms. On my back, diddling with nipples could be very intense. Knees bent, slightly apart. Intense but hardly ever a big O. Though it seems counter-intuitive, for me it can easily end in a big O if I lie on my left side, a little "in" towards the mattress, a little bit of diddling. Soon I will be having deep feelings and incredible Os. I may be wrong, but it seems like gravity is a feature. On back you work against it but on side it promotes it. I know, it sounds crazy, but for me it works.

Aneros has awakened just about everything in the anal cavity and produces awesome sensations. Learned to breath and do levels in sync with breathing. Very important to learn to totally relax and focus. Over time you develop movements in the sphincter which cause anal orgasms both with and without Aneros inserted. I emphasize time as it doesn't happen immediately but one day you will be surprised at the results! Well worth the wait as the enjoyment is awesome!

@fred27, it took me about four years to learn and focus in my sessions. After I began to experience Super-O's and MMO's in my sessions in mid September 2016, I began to focus on my anal musculature both in sessions and in Aless which I do often at night in bed. 😉

@MO_Bosco, it has been said that the brain is our primary sex organ which means that horniness and sexual arousal arise in our minds and even in our thoughts.

@Bill Bately, since I diddle my nipples in bed at night, I will try your approach of diddle while lying on my right side and see what happens!

@The_Bishop , I consider myself younger than old at 68. During my early years, prostate massage had run the gamut from medical exams to personal play. Not once did my body react in the manner displayed by Aneros use. In my experience, the Aless follower would not have been possible without an Aneros leader. I do believe that the initial rewiring was done by a combination of exercises including breathing and Kegels. The most important aspect was the total relaxation and concentration on the prostate and pelvic region.

The Aneros experience was imprinted on my mind in the early stages, and now allows me to visualize expectations when I go Aless.

@Unfug , you have provided an excellent explanation, which reflects my thoughts also. In addition, your comment “you can spark nerval excitement by the sheer thought of it”, is now my only method of inducing Aless results.

@SOwithoutAneros & @m-bc thank you for your kind words. 🙂

I wish there was a wider acknowledgement and research of this mechanic in science. It's not well understood, not to mention the ever repeating and rather shallow coverage in the mainstream media like the vanilla sex-ed's in women- & mens- magazines.

Thank you all for your thoughtful responses!
I was not really expecting this variation of replies. It's wonderful!!!
I have not chimed in because I did not want the conversation to end and I hope this reply does not inhibit it!

@Unfug, as a fringe group of dedicated male multiple orgasms seekers, the vanilla crowd does not have a clue as to the pleasures that we derive. It's always the silence and the look that tells me how far they have progressed on their journey, when I mention MMO’s. That was me a year ago, when I was guided to the Aneros and discovered the mind-body connection, not ever imagining the magical journey I would come to experience.

Research would be invited, if only someone was interested enough to spend the money and splash the results across the front page. Research tactics would also be challenging. Imagine trying to map a brain, in a quiet and relaxing Aneros or A-less session, inside a noise MRI. In my opinion, a pipe dream to mainstream, at this point in time
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The focus needs to remain on passing our knowledge base from fathers to sons, sons to fathers, and friends to friends. I believe our dedication to finding pleasure, healing, and enlightenment, through the Aneros, will become part of the spiritual awakening of mankind, in the near future.

@Unfug, as a fringe group of dedicated male multiple orgasms seekers, the vanilla crowd does not have a clue as to the pleasures that we derive.

The focus needs to remain on passing our knowledge base from fathers to sons, sons to fathers, and friends to friends. I believe our dedication to finding pleasure, healing, and enlightenment, through the Aneros, will become part of the spiritual awakening of mankind, in the near future.

Expanded knowledge of prostate pleasures could result in a reduction of sexual related crimes as this pleasure is self administered and not at the expense of others. Reminds me of John Lennon' song 'Imagine'!

@GGringo , thanks for your insightful comments. I can ‘Imagine’ so many things that need mankind’s attention.

We are the grassroots owners of this extraordinary evolution, which is bigger than just seeking pleasure.

To do my part in expanding my son’s awareness channel, I’m going to give him an Aneros for the holidays. If he balks at the thought, I’ll just tell him to stick it up his butt, anyway, or he can use it as a paperweight, for everyone to ask questions about.

We’ve all got the t-shirt, now we just need to open more minds to the possibilities.