Home Made Lube from Organic Flax Seeds and Water

Badger, I have tried in the past, however discontinued as it contains parabens. I have thyroid/adrenal issues, so probably what makes me esp. sensitive too. =( ForPlay gel had been my fav for a long time but had to discontinue as well. I liked it better than Probe Thick as it wasn't stringy and I thought offered more viscosity; and seemed to last longer.

pacnw,

Please make sure to post on the WaterSlide once you've given it a good ride. I'm pretty happy with this Flax Seed lube these days, but it would be nice to have a natural commercially prepared alternative on those days when I'm too lazy to make to the kitchen.

BF Mayfield

Hey Mayfield, re: new WaterSlide lube....it certainly is slippery....like water. I've only given it a short spin with the Helix. It seemed okay, but I think a shooter would probably have helped and I generally tend not to utilize. I'm not sure it would be thick enough or stay in place well enough for larger Aneros.

I've not had opportunity to play or experiment more; but that's my first brush.

I've had good results heating unrefined shea butter and mixing it with sweet almond oil. Toss in the freezer for a few minutes to thicken while still homogeneous. After applying to aneros and butt, add a little water-based lube and I'm more than ready to go. I can only imagine using it on polished units!

Thanks so much for this recipe, little brother! I found this thread from one about the "urge to purge" that the glycerin lube gives many of us. I find that I prefer this lube to the store-bought stuff because of its increased viscosity. It has that "just right" feeling. I have had my best experiences using this natural lube. Thanks again!

Hey Little Brother, thanks for the recipe and idea of the flax.

I've made a few batches going through the trial and error process, and all i have to say is WOW!

The quality and consistency reminds me of ProbeThick&Rich, but needless to say its all natural.

Best part too is when it kinda gels up, can coat the aneros fully.

Thanks once again for the greatest idea 🙂

I've been experimenting with altering the recipe a bit. As the seeds are boiling, small amounts of liquid can be incorporated into the mucilage as it separates by rapidly stirring it into the mixture. I've found a few drops of olive oil incorporated into the mix makes things more slippery without changing the viscosity of the product.

Looking up mucilage on Wikipedia gives a large variety of plants (flax seed included) that have high mucilage content. I wonder if any of them would work as well or better? The most interesting on the list is chia seeds (yes as in the Chia Pet :)).

I'm in need of some help with this, as i've tried some different idea's, but whats the best way to strain the flax from the water???

I have a metal strainer , but i guess the holes aren't quite big enough to allow enough of the coating through, its gets all think and then wont come through the strainer.

So any help on this matter is appreciated.

I'm in need of some help with this, as i've tried some different idea's, but whats the best way to strain the flax from the water???

I have a metal strainer , but i guess the holes aren't quite big enough to allow enough of the coating through, its gets all think and then wont come through the strainer.

So any help on this matter is appreciated.

I had an issue with straining it as well. I ended up puting it into a cloth( I think I used an old t shirt) as squezing it into a ball.
it was messy but it worked

Thanks for the idea. I was actually also thinking of that idea with cheese cloth, but was thinking maybe too thick.

This may sound like some desperate measures, but i even had the idea and went out and got some Window screening.
So combining your idea of rolling up into a ball in that material may just do the trick 🙂

Well let ya know.

I had an issue with straining it as well. I ended up puting it into a cloth( I think I used an old t shirt) as squezing it into a ball.
it was messy but it worked

Hello Schitz, 🙂

As I recall when I tried this lube recipe, I initially like yourself tried my metal strainer with small holes that is used for ground tea straining and experienced the same thing of it clogging. My solution was to use my large metal strainer that has larger holes and manually remove the few flax seeds that made it through into the filtered lube.

Love_is

Hey,
thanks for the input. I actually have been trying that too, I even got a plastic strainer hoping that the materials would counter balance each other
so wouldnt stick...

Speaking of which i just had a thought, could spray the metal strainer with PAM so it wouldnt stick 🙂

But seriously, its just sometimes it seems that theres alot of seeds that come through or bunched all together,
but i guess as they say, no pain no gain... cause its certainly worth the effort for this lube.

Hello Schitz, 🙂

As I recall when I tried this lube recipe, I initially like yourself tried my metal strainer with small holes that is used for ground tea straining and experienced the same thing of it clogging. My solution was to use my large metal strainer that has larger holes and manually remove the few flax seeds that made it through into the filtered lube.

Love_is

Ok, looks like we got that sorted and we all know how to make flax seed lube. I don't want to hijack your thread little brother but I have a question for all the lube chefs while they're all still hanging about.
Has anyone heard of Nuru Massage and specifically the gel that's used? It's made from Japanese Nori seaweed It is tasteless and odourless and Its completely harmless to eat so I would assume it's ok in your arse then? The massage itself looks incredibly sexy as well. Just search "nuru massage" on youporn etc. Make for some great pegging action eh Love_is?
Anyway if anyone knows how to make it or what the basic ingredients are please don't be bashful.
Thanks.

Is this it?
1. Mix 2 tsp. of sodium alginate with 2 cups of water in a glass saucepan. Stir with a sanitized spoon.
2. Heat the ingredients over low heat, stirring constantly until the sodium alginate is completely dissolved.
3. Remove from heat and cover with plastic wrap to hold out any contaminants that may come into contact with the lubricant. Allow the liquid to cool.

Sodium alginate is made from brown algae, not exactly nori seaweed.

Well, Sky Walker, kelp (a type of seaweed) is in the list of high-mucilage plants. Perhaps the mechanism is similar to the flax seed technique. I don't know -- I'm no botanist. Anyway, as to your recipie, I would be wary of using an ingredient that isn't purely natural. I'm not really sure how the sodium will change the product. It might have a dehydrating or an irritating effect on the bowel tissue. Again, this is just speculation. Better safe than sorry with the backdoor though.

Good point a_user, I'm heading for the Japanese grocery on Monday to ask some carefully crafted questions.

I think "powdered laver" might be a good start.

Good point a_user, I'm heading for the Japanese grocery on Monday to ask some carefully crafted questions.

I think "powdered laver" might be a good start.

I'd agree with 'carefully crafted questions"

Some of the gums used in salad dressing or as additives in machine processing of foodstuffs are 'meshed' much as the flaxseed gel process discussed in this thread. At around at 200-mesh particle size they combine with water to form lubricants and gel-type thickeners.

Many of the commercial gums and alginates were originally crafted from safe natural sources but the chemists have found ways to increase yields and lower costs by using other vegetable sources. (ex: Kelco started by using kelp seaweed to produce Xanthan gum, for salad dressing. Now it's crafted from various grains.) The issue is that some of the bulk, commercial grade Xanthan Gum now contains a carry-over of chemistry from the source vegetable, grass, algae, etc. Trick is to avoid bulk gums and alginates produced for Halliburton's drilling mud... gums and alginates that don't contain a vegetable source that might produce or trigger allergies -- think glutens.

Google for Xanthan Gum .... plenty of wikipedia notes and shopping sources
Medicinal Guar Gum might be a good one to investigate: -- Guar gum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --

Keep us posted on what you find out Sky_Walker. I'd be curious if this Nuru seaweed lube would have less issue with drying than the flax seed lube does.

Love_is

First up, apologies again Little brother for hijacking your thread.
Hi Love_is,
Well I'm not really sure if I want to use it internally, the KY jelly works fine for me, I actually want a Nuru Massage, Just can't seem to find the Nuru gel here in Australia. Well I did find SOME but it comes with an attractive woman at $250 an hour, she tells me she imports her own in bulk and she's not sharing! Not really interested in importing it myself in 250ml bottles as it seems you go through the stuff by the litre. I would love to take up her offer, but I don't think my wife would be too overjoyed with the prospect, then it was suggested I should bring her along too, couples massages can be so much fun!
Anyway, not wanting to destroy my marriage I'm still on the hunt for the basic obtainable ingredients. I've stumbled across something called Agar Agar, a seaweed based substitute for gelatine. I don't want it to set like jelly so I guess I'll experiment with the amount of water I use.

Here is the recipe for flavoured jelly:
place 10g agar agar flakes in a saucepan with 300ml cold water and leave to soak for 15 minutes. Next, bring the water to boil and simmer until the flakes have dissolved before stirring in 300ml of fresh juice. Lastly, pour the liquid into the desired mould and then leave to cool and set before serving chilled.

My starting point would be 10g of agar agar with 1 litre of water. and no fresh juice.

Anybody heard of or used this stuff?

Sky.

PS still haven't made it to the Japanese grocer yet.

BTW this sort of stuff doesn't really help me, it's interesting, but I'm no chemist
From wiki
"Agar consists of a mixture of agarose and agaropectin. Agarose is a linear polymer, made up of the repeating monomeric unit of agarobiose. Agarobiose is a disaccharide made up of D-galactose and 3,6-anhydro-L-galactopyranose. Its major differences from carrageenans are the presence of L-3,6-anhydro-α-galactopyranose rather than D-3,6-anhydro-α-galactopyranose units and the lack of sulfate groups. Agaropectin is a heterogeneous mixture of smaller molecules that occur in lesser amounts. Their structures are similar but slightly branched and sulfated, and they may have methyl and pyruvic acid ketal substituents. They gel poorly and may be simply removed from the excellent gelling agarose molecules by using their charge. The quality of agar is improved by toe treatment that converts of any L-galactose-6-sulfate to 3,6-anhydro-L-galactose.
The gel network of agarose contains double helices formed from left-handed threefold helices. These double helices are stabilized by the presence of water molecules bound inside the double helical cavity [508]. Exterior hydroxyl groups allow aggregation of up to 10,000 of these helices to form suprafibers"

Tell me chemistry is more fun than this:
http://www.youporn.com/watch/357130/amazing-japanese-nuru-massage/?from=related3&al=2&from_id=409845&pos=12

Checkout the gel in the wooden bowl.

Interesting post Sky_Walker. It didn't seem like much of a massage more than just slimy, slippery sex! LOL

It appears that you can buy this nuru gel pre-made, but it is quite expensive. So supposedly this stuff is made from one of the edible nuri seaweed plants. I wonder though if it has to be fresh as opposed to dried? If so, that maybe a problem to locate the proper ingredients so far away from Japan if that is the case. I'd be curious how this natural lube performs for Aneros sessions. Anyone curious enough to either make some or buy some and try it?

Love_is

Anyone tried this for a session? Sylk is made with kiwi plant parts.

Hello Jjaneros, 🙂

I had high hopes for the Sylk kiwi natural being another natural alternative until I found the ingredients includes glycerin.
Sylk - extract of the Kiwifruit vine, packed full of vitamins, anti-oxidants and fibre.

Although I think the spirit of this thread is to be able to inexpensively make your own natural lube.

Love_is

Someone mentioned flax seed gel as a natural, water-based lube on my Shea Butter Suppositories thread, which inspired the forum search, which led me to this dormant thread. Although I remain a committed member of the "oil-based lube camp," I regularly use commercially available water-based lubes where appropriate. While I've used flax seed gel for anal play, I have yet to attempt an Aneros sesh as the main lube ingredient.

Reading this thread I thought about the issue of spoilage and the recommendation that this gel be kept in the fridge, and for no more than a week or so following its preparation.

This got me to thinking: could this gel be frozen for long-term storage? Would the gel retain its pre-frozen consistency well enough upon thawing to make this worthwhile? And what about the logistics of portioning off just enough frozen material for a session, without having to thaw and re-freeze the unused portion in order to get at the desired amount for a session?

The answer seemed obvious: ice cube molds.

I used the same trays that I use for my shea butter suppositories. Because of the snotty, cohesive qualities of the substance, getting it to flow into the depressions took a bit of effort. I had to "massage" the goop in some spots in order to get it to fill some of the cubes.

I started with one cup of seed for a few ounces more than two cups of water, simmered for around 13 minutes, and then strained through a fine, wire mesh strainer. When no more of the goop would flow through the strainer (while being continually stirred with a metal spoon), I dumped the soggy mass back into the sauce pan, added enough water to match the starting volume of the first "pull," and simmered for 15-20 minutes, and then strained it again.

Both batches had an excellent consistency--at first I expected the second pull to be much thinner than the first, but still usable. While the first pull flowed into the ice cube depressions quite readily, it was the second pull that gave me some challenge, as it seemed much more cohesive and "snotty." I am very new to all of this, so I am not sure why there was such a difference between the two batches. Perhaps it was due, in part, to simmering pull #2 longer?

Once completely frozen, the flax seed gel ice cubes pop out of the tray pretty readily. And while I have yet to "road test" this, initial indications are quite good. If freezing this gel harms its slipperiness, the impact seems marginal. And while some might experience ice-in-the-butt as a "bad" thing, I don't seem to have a problem with it. As someone in this thread recommended a 10 cc injection as ideal for an Aneros session, three of these icy suppositories should do the trick. (I'll post back once I have some first-hand experience with this.)

Alternatively, one could thaw a few of these cubes in order to draw up the melted gel into a syringe or lube injector.

This is mostly theoretical at this point. I'll post again once I have more experience.

Enjoy!

Interesting experiment Xochipilli. Keep us posted of the results. 🙂

Love_is

Excellent idea - yes, please keep us posted how things work out.

Hey Gentlemen!

Last Saturday I had an Aneros sesh with a Progasm using 3 frozen flax seed gel suppositories (amounting to approximately 9-10 ml total), and I am cautiously optimistic about the results. My session was interrupted by a 90 minute phone call at about 45 minutes in. I left the Progasm in during the call, consequently, things were not feeling sufficiently slick by the time I finished the call to effectively continue. Removing the Pro was kind of intense by that point as it felt like it had been glued in there (over three hours after its introduction). According to my recollection, the glycerin-water-based lubes I'd previously tried were a bit more forgiving during removal under similar circumstances.

Nevertheless, during the initial part of the experiment, prior to the phone call, I was really enjoying the unique tactile qualities of this natural lube. I'm most familiar with how shea butter and natural jelly feel--the balance between slickness and adhesion. I don't have the adequate words to effectively describe this, but I suspect that a few of you might appreciate what I'm trying to hint at.

More testing is in order. If the slippery quality of the lube survives being in cold storage for a month or more, then I think I might be onto something. For me, inserting the frozen gel in suppository form was super-convenient, and not at all unpleasant. However, I suspect some folks might be at risk for cramping. Once melted, the gel seems to retain its unique textural qualities, although I am probably not experienced enough with "freshly prepared" flax seed gel to fairly compare it to frozen.

I was hoping to use this gel as I would Astroglide and similar commercial lubes, with masturbation sleeves and "hands on" toys. Unfortunately, flax seed gel seems to dry out a bit quicker, and forms a crusty residue, which doesn't occur as readily with the commercial products. It also has more of a tendency to make a mess during such operations (due to the manual and repeated insertion and retraction involved). By "mess" I mean the lube itself, as opposed to other possibilities. (There was no mess issue when used with the Progasm, however.)

I enjoyed this lube while it lasted, but didn't really give it a fair test the first time around. I suspect it would function quite nicely for shorter (1 to 2 hour) sessions. Post sesh cleanup was easier than the oil-based lubes that I still favor.

I heartily agree with the comments about this lube being described as having a "sexy" feel to it--probably due to the texture being so similar to natural vaginal secretions or pre-cum.

I'll certainly post any new findings once they become available.

Peace!

Xochi

Glad this was bumped; would've missed it otherwise.

Is this flax seed lube recipe safe for vaginal use? So far we really enjoy grape seed oil!

Just wondering , I've seen a flaxseed oil, and I'm thinking maybe a quick / easy solution to always making te recipe.

Any thoughts ?

Hi Schitz, 🙂
These are two different things. The flaxseed lube has a quality that is different than an oil, even though they do the same thing. The flaxseed lube is not an oil and does dry out and spoil. If you are going to use an oil as some users here do, there are probobly less expensive types to use.

Love_is

Hey Love_is

Thanks for the input. I know know the texture obviously would
Be different, just figured would be a good alternative.

Cause love the recipe but of course it takes time
And just the extraction is a process in it self.

So thought it may be a alternative.

Thanks again.

Hi Schitz, 🙂
These are two different things. The flaxseed lube has a quality that is different than an oil, even though they do the same thing. The flaxseed lube is not an oil and does dry out and spoil. If you are going to use an oil as some users here do, there are probobly less expensive types to use.

Love_is