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LR377
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Hi Everybody.

I will apologize in advance for the text wall that I am going to put forward here. The truth is I have a lot of thoughts going on in my head and I am hoping to get some clarity via advice and also I suspect I might find some clarity by having to organize my thoughts enough to articulate them here. So I hope you enjoy reading about my experiences and look forward to any feed back you can think of.

I am a 29 year old from Australia and overall I am fairly new to aneros and anal play. I never really enjoyed any other anal play except for my previous aneros toys however I did take a liking to them. I bought my first aneros (MGX) about 6-7 years ago and looking back on it really had no idea how to use it. I tried pushing it with my hands like you would a dildo and did manage to induce some Super T's with that technique which at the time was fairly great. I believe I was using it 3-4 times a week for a couple of months and actually made some decent progress with my rewiring. At this time I was so horny and couldn't keep my hands off my cock and was still struggling to get aroused without some penile play. So in hindsight I basically just used it to enhance my normal play. I did see some success of a different kind (spiritual) which I will leave out of this discussion, except its important to note that after said "success" I held the aneros in an extremely high regard (and still do). Ultimately frustrated I packed my aneros away for good, or so I thought.

Fast forward a couple of years and add a little bit of maturity and I was back at it. I am not sure exactly what was the catalyst to start regular sessions again except to say that I never forgot about my toy and was always very interested in finding the super-o. I cannot remember if at this time I was using the MGX still or if I had already purchased my Helix Syn. I had spent a lot of time reading the forums and had a much healthier approach to my sessions. I was single at the time and basically used it as my only source of sexual excitement coupled with porn. I had tried to eliminate unnecessary ejaculations and to save my energy to focus on finding a super-o. I do remember really enjoying my sessions during this period and even managed hands free orgasms. I also learnt to have Aless hands free orgasms and found I was getting a lot of buzzing and pwaves throughout my day. Its safe to say I desired to have my aneros inside me most of the time. I think this time around I made good progress except I found that any pleasure in my sessions built to me having an orgasm/ejaculation and ended my session. A great problem to have if I'm honest, however not what I was really looking for.

So fast forward till 1 week ago. I was particularly horny and for some reason I decided to buy myself a new aneros toy (The Vice). I knew that I would have 1 week off work due to finding a new company to work for and smudging the start and end dates of employment a little to score myself a weeks downtime. I ordered the toy online so I had 3 days to wait for its arrival and that gave me time to prepare mentally. I spent some time on the forums and read some of the experts advice and realised more of my flaws. I believe last time I had tried this mentally I wasn't prepared and that was a large barrier for me. This time however I'm in a much better place and think I have a fair shot at a super O. Some of the observations I made were that I never took the time to relax before a session, to really unwind and clear my mind. I reassured myself many times that anything that happens during my first upcoming session was a good thing and to be calm and happy about it. I tried to clear my mind of expectations in an attempt to limit frustrations which has always distracted me from my goals.

This time however I really remembered what the rewiring would do and how it would make my prostate sensitive and make me much more aware of sexual desire in that area. Because of this I guess I couldn't completely release myself of expectations and admit I felt a sense of confidence in that I knew how to rewire and knew I could do it pretty easily. I did also note that after such a long time without any prostate stimulation I had almost no desire or feeling of my previous rewirings. I knew where I should be feeling it and could emulate it slightly causing very small p-waves with aless techniques I learnt practising Aless Orgasms last time. So whilst waiting for my aneros to arrive I decided I wouldn't ejaculate and save my desire for the toy, but more importantly I decided every time I got horny I would think about putting the aneros in and practiced a few kegels. I found really quickly that I was able to split my desire between my penis and prostate and it was only when I lost focus would I feel horny through my penis. So I kept at it and was finding I couldn't really activate my prostate yet without the stimulation so my Horny was a little bit "Lost". It was almost as if I wasn't horny, but inside me was telling me I was and I didn't know how to use that energy because every time I thought about my dick and jerking off I stopped myself from strengthening that neural pathway.
So before I go into my first session with my new Vice I will admit I had almost instant buyers remorse because it was a Vibe also. So when looking through the list of devices to buy I was intrigued by the shape of the vice (the size too, I have always owned small devices). I also thought that I might be able to use the vibe to help speed up rewiring by using it to trigger super T's like I have had in the past, and thus reinforce positive neural connections with my prostate. Right after I bought It I thought it was a silly choice as I didn't want to go down the same road I went last time but instead discover a new path. I wanted to get away from Super T's and learn more about non ejaculatory orgasms. Because the vice has a vibe option I assumed that it was probably not the most well designed device to work without the vibe, which was ultimately my goal so I went ahead and purchased a progasm jnr which is still in transit.

So yesterday was my first session with the vice. Upfront I will say none of this involved using the Vibrator. I decided to focus on a bit of a warmup routine which consisted of an enema, a hot shower, preparing my "Play Station", finding suitable porn for such a task and trying to focus on relaxing. I hadn't planned on it but I ended up having a small amount of marijuana before my session (I smoke irregularly and every time I do I have a profound effect of feeling energy in my body and feeling chakras vibrating and opening.) I felt like this kind of hyper internal awareness might be suitable for my session. With the formalities out of the way I started my porn video and laid down with the Vice.

Before inserting it I could see it was way bigger than my previous devices and wondered if I had bit off more than I could chew. It took some relaxing but I was able to insert it really pleasurably and quickly too. I was hit with a big full feeling I never had before. Straight away I thought this was an improvement on my other devices and I really like it. I started getting p-waves within the first 5 minutes and my arousal rose quickly. I was laying on my side (my favourite position due to a spinal injury) and I could feel a nice pressure on my prostate. Not too hard but enough that I wondered if I was going to make myself sore and have to terminate the session. Anal contractions now were pretty intense and really rubbed my prostate pretty hard, a much more intense feeling than I remembered. after 15 minutes of enjoyment things started to ramp up. It started with some light buzzing and some warm sensations around my abdomen. I felt really nice and at this point I had a feeling that something big was coming. None of my sessions had ever been so pleasurable and I knew this was going to be a good one. Despite being so big the vice seemed to move well and I could tell my pelvic floor was still strong after many years. I was able to move it around with ease and didn't find much fatigue.

I started to really focus on my contractions and try to find a good rhythm. Indeed I did and I found it at a fairly slow pace, I also really understand now that big movements aren't necessary, in fact I was getting different sensations from rubbing my prostate in different locations. It became almost second nature to direct it to where I wanted to feel it and really enjoyed exploring the different sensations from different strokes. I have never really had this feeling of control before as I have mostly just contracted hard and waited for fatigue quivering in the past. This kind of stoking made me so warm and I felt great but after a while I couldn't stop myself from hard contractions which were also amazing, they kept coming and I really couldn't stop them nor did I want to. They were getting longer in length and more regular. After just a couple of minutes of these involuntary contractions I found that I was Just only holding this heavy contraction and had the Vice sitting hard on my prostate. I would slowly relax and find myself able to stroke my prostate again but as soon as I did I would have another hard contraction. after 5-10 minutes of this I found something strange happened to me, I started to feel like the same contraction pulling the Vice into me started to feel as if I was trying to push it out. I actually felt it transition from one feeling to another. This was intense because I wasn't controlling it at this point. The device felt like it was endlessly slipping (like a constant slow movement inward, felt at the anus) deeper inside me despite the feeling of trying to push it out.This made me extremely horny because I had the feeling that I couldn't stop the pleasurable sensations even if I wanted to. I was Helpless so to speak.

This feeling of acceptance took my session to a whole new level. The Vice began to feel like a high frequency of energy warming me and I started to really focus on this these sensations. I had a realisation that this feeling is what will cause me to orgasm and I was able to momentarily forge a feedback loop. I started to realise that this feeling is the beginning of a bigger orgasm and something I'm totally unused to. I tried to reinforce this to myself from time to time to help forge new neural pathways and speed up rewiring. My anus and prostate felt amazing and at some points it almost felt like I couldn't feel them separately but they were all connected as the whole region was buzzing and felt warmly amazing. This kept happening for maybe 10 minutes before I started to realised that it was subsiding because I wasn't fueling my sexual arousal, so I began to intermittently focus on my porn which up to this point was mostly ignored.

This kept the session going for another 20-30 minutes and many times I felt the sensations of an incoming orgasm which is when I found finally my penis had become Hard. In all of my sessions prior I would get erect almost all the way through my session and I chalked this up to my previous days training myself to focus on my prostate and ignore my penis. It was truly fantastic and I found that when my arousal was getting really high my hips and legs would start shaking uncontrollably, it felt so good I just let them go. Because of this my position had changed a little bit and I felt my penis start to touch the towel beneath me. This feeling felt really great and although I didn't want to draw any attention to my penis I was so aroused I couldn't really help it. I let my legs keep shaking and occasionally the tip of my penis would just brush the towel. This made it really easy to raise my arousal because it was much more familiar to me. I also felt that I was precumming a bit which is fairly unusual for me. I was pretty quickly able to approach orgasm again and this time I really tried to bring it on as much as possible hoping that I wouldn't ejaculate like I did in the past.

Alas I did ejaculate and it was huge, truly epic. My prostate contractions were slow and full and there were many more than usual. Instead of ejaculating in separate squirts this felt much more like one long constant ejaculation. The feeling was intense and I'm really grateful for it. Even after I had come the sensations were amazing for another 5 minutes. I hadn't yet checked to see if any ejaculate had come out (I read that other people thought they had cum but actually hadn't) and even considered that maybe I was tricked because I thought it might happen again. The refractory period hadn't set in like I'm used to and I still felt highly aroused. Although the sensations in me had definitely changed to a more empty dull feeling, Not at all less pleasant but something different altogether, less energised. Once I had looked and saw I had come I didn't even feel bad about it because I had enjoyed it so much. I was already happy with such a huge step in progress for me and at the end of the day felt completely satisfied. After I took the Vice out I felt so good, like a sense of relief that the device was out but also just still aware of the pleasant sensations still happening down there. I found it easy to clean and packed away my setup feeling fantastic.

I felt a slight tenderness that night when I was in bed and thought that was pretty reasonable for the length of my session (Little over one hour) and the size of my new toy combined with my recent lack of activity down there. I felt confident that I could use this regularly without discomfort. I had a great sleep but woke up with a sore pectoral muscle and realised that I hadn't really been relaxing during my session but instead got lost in the new feelings and let my body tense up like I would during a normal penile orgasm but this time for much longer. I also didn't exactly perfect any kind of breathing technique as I was slightly overwhelmed. So with my first session out of the way I am trying to get a shortlist of the good and the bad to help target any room for improvement. This is where I would really appreciate your feedback and expertise and welcome any questions or suggestions.

The things I feel I did well in this session were:
Pre-session preparations, Positive attitude, Clean slate mentality, Good device selection, Positive reinforcement of prostate neural pathways.

Room for improvement:
Continuation of the rewiring process, Relaxing during my session, Breathing techniques or atleast standard breathing, Allowing the orgasm to come to me and not trying to force it (in the hopes to avoid ejaculation)

Things to Eliminate:
All penis stimulation, Expectation

So one question I REALLY want to ask is why do I always ejaculate when I become really aroused. Is it because my penis touched the towel beneath me? Once I was aware of my penis things became easier to be aroused and I then chased what felt like a normal orgasm just super strong. Am I chasing the wrong sensations, am I heading in the wrong direction? With more prostate play will I eventually learn not to ejaculate? I don't really know what to do about this.
[LEFT][COLOR=#555555][FONT=Noto Sans][SIZE=15px]I have a suspision that due to my body tensing up im really just making myself have a traditional penile orgasm. Thats to say that i let the aneros get me started and then i force myself to ejaculate because i think thats the whats im supposed to do. It feels so good so how could it be wrong? Except it always leads to ejaculation and i think that maybe the whole event is caused by me trying to replicate a normal orgasm. Will relaxing and trying to find another pathway help?[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]

I am going to try today without any marijuana and see if I am able to generate such an intense session, however I do feel like it really helped. Im not sure any conclusions can be drawn from such a small test especially because I came yesterday and im not sure if my libido is on par with itself prior to my last session. So I would like to know if anyone else here can vouch for cannabis having a positive effect on there sessions.

I hope this was enjoyable as I find I enjoy reading other peoples sessions exciting. If you would like to make any suggestions or try to help me please do.

Thanks
Trip


   
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rumel
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@Trip , welcome back to the Aneros world. No apologies are necessary for the detailed write up. It sounds like you did everything pretty much optimally and experienced a Super-O then transitioned into a Super-T due to some penile stimulation and residual body tension, nothing wrong with that and it is something that you can easily deal with.

So with my first session out of the way I am trying to get a shortlist of the good and the bad to help target any room for improvement. This is where I would really appreciate your feedback and expertise and welcome any questions or suggestions.

First may I suggest you reframe your thinking that you did anything "...bad...", because you didn't. The rewiring process doesn't happen overnight or after a few sessions, it is a process establishing new neural pathways through repetition while also allowing old pathways (traditional penile stimulated ejaculatory orgasms) to weaken though disuse.

Continuation of the rewiring process, Relaxing during my session, Breathing techniques or at least standard breathing, Allowing the orgasm to come to me and not trying to force it (in the hopes to avoid ejaculation)

Yes, those are all good, attainable skills. With regard to relaxing, I often recommend people to read @darwin's post relax, relax, RELAX. With regard to breathing techniques please see @rook 's post in A Question about Breathing for some helpful tips and information links. You can also read Deep Belly Breathing and Relaxing (a file I downloaded many years ago authored by Temple University Professor R. Hicks, unfortunately no longer available online).

In regards to avoiding ejaculation, you might find some tips in these threads -> How to avoid ejaculation?, How to avoid handsfree wet orgasms , Avoiding ejaculation during orgasm? , Hands free ejaculation being an obstacle & Cumming while lying face down.

The issue of avoiding the tendency to chase after an orgasm and allow it to find you is largely part of the thought paradigm shift away from traditional penile induced ejaculatory orgasms. This will take some conscious reprogramming on your part to deliberately slow down and monitor your body's level of tension as your arousal builds. This also needs to be incorporated into your relaxation regime.

So one question I REALLY want to ask is why do I always ejaculate when I become really aroused. Is it because my penis touched the towel beneath me? Once I was aware of my penis things became easier to be aroused and I then chased what felt like a normal orgasm just super strong. Am I chasing the wrong sensations, am I heading in the wrong direction? With more prostate play will I eventually learn not to ejaculate? I don't really know what to do about this.

I think this is a holdover from your deeply conditioned response patterns established from many years of traditional masturbatory practices. Those neural pathways are extremely strong and it may take a long time for them to weaken, especially if you continue to practice them. I believe it is important to avoid using an Aneros to achieve Super-T's if you truly want to firmly establish the neural pathways to prostate based orgasms and the Super-O.

I have a suspision that due to my body tensing up im really just making myself have a traditional penile orgasm. Thats to say that i let the aneros get me started and then i force myself to ejaculate because i think thats the whats im supposed to do. It feels so good so how could it be wrong? Except it always leads to ejaculation and i think that maybe the whole event is caused by me trying to replicate a normal orgasm. Will relaxing and trying to find another pathway help?

I think your intuition is correct. The fact that it feels good does not make it wrong but there are other ways to feel good too, it is a matter of learning those alternate pathways which avoid the ejaculatory reflex. I am assuming that your reintroduction of Aneros use is your attempt to explore an alternative pathway to pleasure and I applaud you for doing so.

I am going to try today without any marijuana and see if I am able to generate such an intense session, however I do feel like it really helped....because I came yesterday and im not sure if my libido is on par with itself prior to my last session.

I'd recommend you take a couple days rest after having ejaculated before having another session. It is a well known fact that your hormonal system takes a hit from the release of prolactin at the time of an ejaculation. Prolactin has a neutralizing effect on system dopamine and oxytocin, two neurotransmitters associated with sexual arousal. There is normally a 'hangover' effect from prolactin that can last for a few days which depresses your ability to reach a high level of arousal and high levels of arousal are a necessary component to experience prostate based orgasms for most men.

So I would like to know if anyone else here can vouch for cannabis having a positive effect on there sessions.

Increasing numbers of men are reporting positive affects from cannabis use. There are numerous threads on this Forum which discuss use of various recreational drugs/substances to augment one's Anerosessions. Cannabis is frequently cited as a substance of choice. A few such threads are "drugs with the Aneros...?, Would pot help a new user?, Weed, Marijuana + Aneros = 🙂 and Marijuana! and Aneros

Good Vibes to You !


   
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LR377
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Thank you Rumel,

Your reply to my post was excellent. I got some clarity from your direct response's and also even more clarity from the links you sent me. I have just finished up reading them and believe that I have the answers I was looking for. I have a new plan of attack (definitely a poor choice of words) and I would like to share the insight I picked up on. Before I do however I noticed that these questions and answers were already here for me to find and I lazily chose to ask someone to dish it up for me. I am indeed grateful and enjoy the chance to converse about this journey, however I now realise the resource this forum is and how I'm under utilizing it.

Before I break down what I learnt from your reply I would like to report back on my session today. I did have a session today before your reply (not long after my initial post) and was able to take some good lessons from it. Firstly it was underwhelming (underwhelming = very enjoyable), I am going to assume that it was because of my inability to reach higher states of arousal like you suggested might happen. I didn't have a sublime experience like my first post and I think this is in part due to the lack of Cannabis. These two together (Not waiting long enough + lack of Cannabis) reduced the experience into a really great one. I was able to achieve multiple HFWO which was fairly surprising to me (Not a true Multi I think, rather one after another). At some point in my session I somewhat accepted that I was going to chase the orgasm again and just went with it.

During my peaks of arousal I really started to differentiate between the relaxing feelings and the tension building. During the relaxation period I was trying to really feel and get to know what the arousal feels like without the tension, and I recognized its actually pretty intense and feels better, however it dissipates and I cant seem to encourage it very much. What I was doing actually was using the building tension and cramping of my muscles to build arousal and then tried to not orgasm/ejaculate by releasing and relaxing through it. Kind of like edging but with my mind and periodic relaxation. It was pretty intense and during one relaxation period I crossed over the PONR ever so slowly lol. It was an underwhelming orgasm similar to my traditional masturbation sessions however with a lot more fluid released. It felt like I didn't fully ejaculate and this meant that the refractory period never really kicked in hard, allowing me to continue with the session. It was only a minute or two later that I was able to achieve a 2nd HFWO which was also large in size. Infact looking back on it the amount of fluid I released all together was fairly amazing. Both of my ejaculations were larger than my standard "big" loads (I have been taking MACA for the last week so i'm not really surprised by an increase in load size, as this is common for me).

So I am really interested in the feeling of the relaxed arousal and my aim is to learn more about it! relax, relax, RELAX really opened my eyes. I can relate to it and can see he is detailing almost exactly what I am doing and what I should be doing if I want to experience a Super-O. I do have experience with relaxing meditations and switching off all my muscles so I don't think this will be to hard for me to incorporate into my next session, however I suspect that I will be unable to generate sufficient arousal for any fireworks. That said I appreciate that this has to be learned through experience and am excited to see how I go no matter the outcome. My next session will largely by all about relaxing, and just seeing what the aneros does without me trying to control the experience.

I have a question about ejaculation and the existing neural pathways. I understand if I abstain from penile ejaculation my body with slowly weaken this response but I am wondering what do men that have wife's do with this situation? If I have sex with my Wife am I going to reinforce that neural pathway which I'm trying to weaken? it seems to me I will.

In the past I have experienced the effects of desensitization from overuse of porn. I am going to try and Reduce my porn intake (and maybe abstain from it for a month or so to clean the slate) to try and increase its potency as today I was feeling it was lacking and acknowledged my overuse recently in an attempt to keep my libido building for future sessions.

Lastly my understanding of the cannabis use during sessions is clear to me now. It is clear to me that using Cannabis during my session heightens my arousal and senses and allows for a more intense experience however I have no desire to become dependant on it for a successful session so I will save it for a session booster once I feel like I'm close to breaking through to a super O.

So in short I am going to focus on relaxation more and stop my tension based arousal building. I am going to spend the next few months trying to reinforce neural pathways to the Prostate arousal and orgasm. I am going to reduce my penile activities and try to eliminate ejaculation as much as possible. Finally I will educe Porn intake for increased potency.

If I am missing something let me know 🙂 Overall today was pretty fruitful.
Thanks a lot


   
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I have a question about ejaculation and the existing neural pathways. I understand if I abstain from penile ejaculation my body with slowly weaken this response but I am wondering what do men that have wife's do with this situation? If I have sex with my Wife am I going to reinforce that neural pathway which I'm trying to weaken? it seems to me I will.

I don't believe that's necessarily the case. My comments regarding reducing penile stimulated ejaculatory orgasms was meant to apply to solo masturbation sessions. Making love with a partner is a different neural network route involving connections with different parts of the brain. Remember, your brain has millions of possible connections and alternate routes for making those connections, the pathways you have established making love to a partner need not be severed or abandoned for the sake of reinforcing new neural pathways for Aneros use.

In the past I have experienced the effects of desensitization from overuse of porn. I am going to try and Reduce my porn intake (and maybe abstain from it for a month or so to clean the slate) to try and increase its potency as today I was feeling it was lacking and acknowledged my overuse recently in an attempt to keep my libido building for future sessions.

I think reducing or eliminating the porn altogether is a good idea, you might find these articles enlightening -> Your brain on Porn: How Internet porn affects the brain & Porn, Pseudoscience and DeltaFosB.

It is clear to me that using Cannabis during my session heightens my arousal and senses and allows for a more intense experience however I have no desire to become dependant on it for a successful session so I will save it for a session booster once I feel like I'm close to breaking through to a super O.

This sounds like a wise decision to me. I think you've got a good handle on all the aspects of the Aneros journey, I'm confident you are headed toward many years of great orgasms.
Good Vibes to You !


   
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LR377
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I would like to make a quick update for anyone who managed to read through that wall.

I had 2 sessions with no ejaculations yesterday to help practice on my new focus, relaxing. They were pretty uneventful and I didn't really have any goals other than familiarization. I had a fairly good idea of what I needed to do I just wanted some 'time on the field' so to speak. After these 2 sessions I felt like I had locked in on what it was I was going to try and do but I just wasn't generating any arousal. Although I had told myself I was going to take atleast 2 weeks away from pornography before trying to utilize it only for my sessions, I was too curious to see what would happen if I was to "practice" with these new skills.

So today I actually decided to go all in and had a small amount of marijuana prior to my session also. I had about an hour and a half to myself and I was hoping to atleast get back to the pleasure levels of my first attempt, only 5 days ago. I did so, and then some.

I was able to put it all together in a symphony of pleasure so to speak. I was able to eliminate my ejaculation problem and was able to have orgasm after orgasm. I think I had 10-15 in the last 20 minutes of my session. I had what felt like 5-6 anal orgasms and 10+ dry orgasms which had all the feelings of my traditional orgasms just without ejaculating, I now realise exactly what people mean when they say it felt like they had ejaculated but they didn't. I was able to relax a lot more and by doing this relaxing I would switch back and forth between anal orgasm and dry (Prostate?) orgasms. I was able to really elevate my arousal to really high levels and I found my choice of erotica infatuating. My wife called me half way through my orgasms and told me she was returning home soon so I had to cut it short after a couple more. I was able to choose to have a Super T and go all in that control made me feel good also.

This is easily the most advanced session I've had with any of my aneros devices and I'm really excited about the future! My experience today make me think about this question. What exactly makes an orgasm Super? The experience I had today was one that I would happily label Super. Although I had a distinct feeling that I was only halfway there so to speak. Like there was a possibility of a run away train effect up the back of my spine, I can still feel it and wonder if this is Kundalini (I have had an intense awakening in the past).

Overall im 100% satisfied. I am still having mini o's 5 hours later and despite ejaculating still feel energized/horny.

I think I will make a Blog soon.

Thanks


   
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