Help with plateau

I assume you mean the involuntary contractions where your anus feels wormy and quivering and you get this funny feeling involuntary "sucking in" contraction of your rectum that grips the Aneros and pulls it inward pulling the P-tab against your perineum. If that's the case, you're definitely on the right track. I was stuck at the same point early on in my rewiring and discovered that doing gentle PC contractions like you're holding back urine flow--not pulling and pinching inward with your anus--and lightly tickling the nipples got the orgasmic sensations to coming. They first start with this pleasant warmth behind your pubic bone and as you going along with sessions practicing at this, that warmth will flow into your penis and eventually get to the point your penis will feel really hot and you'll feel like you're ejaculating as intensely as you ever could, contractions coming and all, but with no ejaculation.

Keep working at it. It will come.

i hit the same plateau a while ago too, dont worry it will pass, just keep at it and stay relaxed, good things will come.

I've been on this plateau so long I think I will build a house.

I'm a month on now and if I do nothing, breath deeply and listen to something relaxing I can feel pleasurable movements of the toy within a few minutes of inserting the aneros. However, currently no amount of doing nothing, contracting or stimulation has manged to amplify these sensations. This has been coupled with using different toys, session lengths, different levels of abstention, reading the forum/wiki and so on.

I'm not frustrated and enjoy most sessions for what they are but have to admit to feel a little lost. One thing I do find is whilst the sessions are pleasurable and sometimes exciting I don't feel massively aroused or turned on (certainly no erection or pre-cum) and I have often wondered whether I am actually stimulating the prostrate.

Any one any ideas?

Thanks in Advance

@monkeyrj, I went through a phase just as your describing this past winter, dont worry, keep at it and it will pass. One thing to keep in mind though, is that stress and worry can have a big impact on aneros use. I know my problems in the winter were caused by winter depression and issues from work creeping in and affecting my aneros use. I'm not saying you have either of these issues, but if you did, it could be why.

Erections and pre-cum really have no bearing on a successful session in my experience. I have had great sessions with neither myself. As for arousal, maybe try something different then what you have in the past to get fired up. Getting aroused is a problem for me too. Try some different things. Hope that helps.

Monkeyrj - " I don't feel massively aroused or turned on (certainly no erection or
pre-cum) and I have often wondered whether I am actually stimulating the
prostrate."

From my experience, Stimulating your prostate only amplifies your arousal and you can get better at this with practise. Personally i wont bother having an aneros session unless my body is telling me to. Which means arousal is at a high already before i begin. Which makes amplifying this arousal alot easier for me.
This took me around 8 months to really get my head around. However i havent had a super-o yet, and perhaps this is because i enter my sessions with too much arousal forcing me to a "Not so super-T".

@wired, my experience has been that when I am the most aneros hungry, i tend to not have great sessions. You would think thats when they would be the best, but for me they arent, its the one where im just going thru the motions and bam! I get hit with the best session ever. Just something to think about.

Thanks Ineverknew. Interesting, I will take some time to compare with my sessions, and attempt some when im not overly aroused.

Just thought i would share this,i sure am not a pro but it did help me.
I had 2 small sessions in 3 days about 30 min. long for each.
I skip a day and went for alonger session,after a hour of good feelings
I rolled over on my stomach and wow things did take off,but what works
for one may not work for another.
Thanks.

A few more months on now and and on a good session the toy is twitching continually. Although this starts on insertion it still never seems to go anywhere. I would be interested to understand what people do once things start to twitch. Do people:

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Any thoughts would be helpful

Thanks in advance

Not advocating any illegal behavior but a little pot will alter the experience greatly. MJ definitely has an introspective effect on oneself. This results in a keen awareness of what your body feels, heightening the sensation and advancing things greatly.

If that isn't an option, meditate, try to relax. Things will happen.

When I am lying on my back while using the Eupho, I raise my butt higher by using 2 pillows instead of 1 pillow (or by folding a pillow in half). Doing this technique allows my Eupho to reach pleasurable spots easier and I am now able to have big Os with it! The technique also helped me get through my plateau with the Eupho, but it may help you too with your other Aneros toys.

Another month and much the same thing. Sessions vary (had an excellent one last night) but still nothing much more than last month. Just realized that its now been four months (Although, I have been trying off and one for three years) and while things are slowly moving along I would be interested to see if anyone has anything else to suggest. Also, I would still be interested to have some answers to what people do during there sessions, something long the lines of:

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Thanks in advance

@monkeyrj, I have always done the do nothing approach, which for me is literally "do nothing". That said i have tried a few times where you hold a contraction at like 30% or so and just forget about it, if that makes sense. When doing the do nothing, my muscles automatically do what they are suppose to for the most part, but sometimes holding a contraction like that will get things fired back up again for me. I also have been playing around with fantasies, coming up with some sort of made up role playing which is obviously sexual in nature and just kind of let it play in my mind to help build arousal. Hope that helps.

It's now been 7 months and still no advancement. In fact, progress has gone backward and I'm starting to loss interest. Has anyone got any ideas in reinvigorate my journey?

When I'm nice and relaxed and getting a few twitches, I'll start by focusing on the twitches coming from the anal area. If the Aneros doesn't suck in, I'll squeeze my butt checks to help pull it in to put more pressure on the prostate. Early on for me, the twitching would build but not go anywhere, After this happened a couple of times, I told myself over and over, " just let go". Now sometimes I'll think some erotic thoughts to get me going. Good luck.

@monkeyrj,From my experience I would say you have barely jumped off the starting block yet!

Try not to become discouraged by your apparent lack of progress. It's just that your body hasn't sent the appropriate messages to your brain till now.

You haven't told us what model(s) you have been using or how frequently. We also don't know how long your sessions have been.

If you are getting no obvious responses it might be worth inserting the tool when you go to bed, just ignore the fact that it is there and allow yourself to go to sleep. Try this two or three times a week for a few weeks. My guess is that it would soon wake you up at some point during the night. From that point you could be sure that it is trying to communicate with your brain. Just make sure you have adequate long-lasting lubrication in place before insertion. BTW, I wouldn't try this with any of the larger models (such as the Progasm or Maximus, and don't leave it in place all night.

Just try it and Good Luck!

@monkeyrj - I glad you are still with us!

Actually you seem to be making steady progress, but may have hit a bit of a dry spell which can be normal. Dry spells can happen even after years of great results. Try and relax. Follow the advise you have been given. Play with it, what have you got to lose? In time, if you can avoid getting too anxious, the good sensations may restart, and they may be different.

There is no end to this experience, and you are just starting. There is so much that is possible. It is worth sticking with it. Relax.

Xileh

The phase "barely jumped off the starting block yet!" worries me. After several years of casual use and now nine months of focused regular use to not be off the starting blocks makes me think I'll never get any further (but I am not put off :).

For the record I have a Helix, MGX, SGX, Maximus and Progasm. I almost exclusively use the Maximus and sessions last from 30mins to 2 hours with at least 4 sessions a week. I have slept with the smaller ones previously but have never really got much from it.

When I started this thread I had been progressing through the stages in the wiki nicely but had suddenly stopped progress (more recently I have had a dry spell which I think I am coming out of now). During a session am relaxed, not anxious and can even drop off. When I first insert the toy it almost immediately starts twitching, however, I can never really build on it and am now out of ideas.

Any further thoughts?

Thanks

monkeyrj,I was where you are now and when I started engaging my nipples is when things really took off. Have you tried that? I have all the units you have but also use the Maxiums. I have continuous Super O's from about five minutes after insertion for an hour or more now and I'm lightly rubbing my nipples most of the time, with some oil-based lube so I don't get them chaffed.

Try this if you haven't and let us know.

@monkeyrj,I didn't mean to be flippant about where you are in this journey but simply to make the point that some of us, (me included), take several years to reach a point where we can confidently identify as having experienced what many call a Super-O.

Reading your reply, I can see that you have indeed quite a bit more experience than I had realised.

Might I suggest that your body may be somewhat confused by having to recognise different models at this stage? I believe this caused my progress to slow during the first two or three years.

FWIW, I have settled lately on the smallest Peridise and am having a great time with it, but I'm sure this is because my body has come to recognise this one as a familiar friend!

Best of luck!

I am trying out a few things but I would really like to get a few answers to what people do during a session, some thing along the lines of, I:

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Thanks

@monkeyrj, I use the do nothing method, so I start out by doing some relaxation breathing, or belly breathing, eventually the involuntaries kick in and I'm off. Using this method, the involuntaries will stop and start up again several times. Doing or holding contractions never did anything for me so cant help you there.

@monkeyrj,

Do ALL of what you suggest and anything else you can think of.

Just bear in mind that we are all built differently (we are individuals). Any of what you have listed might work on one occasion but fail to work on another.

The only way you will really learn to achieve success with Aneros devices is to experiment. To complicate matters further, each model will provide you with different responses, so the combinations are unlimited!
That's what makes it so rewarding and so much fun!

Just try to be aware of the responses as they occur and e!njoy

Just wanted to touch base again to see if there's anything else I can be doing. The first post was in March and in now nearly December and I don't think I'm much further forward despite regular use. Basically, during a good session things feel nice and I can tell the prostrate is swelling but I simply can't capitalise (either actively or passively) on these feelings to increase the intensity or pleasure. I have tried very thing from do nothing to strong contractions and everything in between. The only thing recently has been a single whole body spasm during a session but other than that the device twitches on its own from insertion but I simply never get any further.

Any advise anyone?

Thanks in Advance

One thing I do find is whilst the sessions are pleasurable and sometimes exciting I don't feel massively aroused or turned on (certainly no erection or pre-cum) and I have often wondered whether I am actually stimulating the prostrate.You said this back in April, @Wired picked up on it and commented but you have never responded to the issue of being aroused
(see Are you aroused?).
IMHO, being highly aroused is a key aspect of having pleasurable results with your Aneros massagers. 'BF Mayfield' long ago said the Aneros devices were best as arousal amplifiers not as arousal generators and I totally agree with that observation. If you expect your Aneros to make you "horny" and get you excited you will likely be disappointed with your results, it just doesn't work that way. You need to be already excited to have success with your Aneros. All the technique in the world won't do you any good unless your body is in the mood to have an orgasm and you can't force your body into getting into that mood.
My suggestion to you would be to focus on creating greater arousal before even thinking about starting an Anerosession. Have you read the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence ? That is one path you have not mentioned having tried. I would suggest you also read the thread Identifying Obstacles to Progress and then follow that with the thread Identifying Facilitators to Progress. Those two threads may reveal some aspect(s) of your practice which may be holding you back. I hope these help you surmount whatever obstacle is currently limiting your progress.
Good Vibes to You !

Monkeyrj, you could try my breathing meditation to get aroused. Look at the blogs for My Breathing Meditation. I use it to get aroused from within. Let me know if it helps or not.

That's an interesting observation about being aroused. I do have sessions (two back to back recently) where I have had a rock hard erection, maybe this is progress. However, I have found that if I'm too aroused I get frustrated and can't relax wanting a traditional orgasm. Also, despite before older (well 46) I struggle with abstinence for for than two days, I have managed 5 days without ejaculating but this state of arousal, as I said, will kill an aneros session.

That said I'm now on day 5 of self imposed abstinence....Let's see what happens.........

Arousal doesn't necessarily mean hard-on. Read the wiki, it is a state of mental and bodily expectations with increased heartbeat, butterflies feelings, bodily warmth, etc. IMO abstinence from ejaculation will increase my arousal in this way if I keep my awareness centered on what's going on inside me. If I'm hard I just enjoy the feelings and keep on focussing on my insides, especially the prostate, anus and that neighborhood. The breathing exercises just help me keep my awareness inside.