Guys, Describe your PONR and what leads up to it?

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I believe orgasm and ejaculation are seperate events, although they often come hand in hand. I have been able to edge to the ponr, then stop, then approach it again, repeating this cycle until at some point i would have a single spurt of sperm shooting out (the first contraction of an ejaculation) but without having an orgasm and further ejaculation. I could then repeat this multiple times, each time ejaculating a single spurt of cum without orgasming. This somehow seems to show that crossing the ponr doesnt mean ejaculatory inevitability: i am able to have the first part of an ejaculation (the first spurt) but not the rest of it (full ejaculation and orgasm).

So yeah i believe the aneros directions are true :).

Hi guys,

So guys, please describe your PONR and what you experience as you approach it first, as a masturbator, secondly as a sexual partner, and finally as an Aneroser. Thanks!

For me, my PONR only applies as a masturbator/edger. With very infrequent sex with my better half, I don't have a chance to test the theory of PONR in a conjugal sex act. As an Aneroser, my sessions never gets me to the level of close calls. I rarely practice Super-T or even TO with a massager inserted, at least until my rewiring is completed.

I discovered Aneros and back door play in January 2016 and in the following year, I started to develop my edging skills. At the time, my libido was extremely low and just getting to climax was quite an accomplishment. When I did finally get to re-engage my masturbating skills with a certain level of pleasure, stopping at the PONR proved to be somewhat difficult

As time progressed, my edging got better and better and I attribute that to the level of aggressiveness I practiced my edging. Early in the game, I really went aggressively looking for results but when I started to tame the aggressiveness and began to stop way before reaching the famous PONR, that's when I really started seeing better results.

Today, it's almost a daily ritual in the morning before my shower; I edge slowly while enjoying every second of every stroke. I also try to avoid the frenulum and the glans; I rather concentrate my stroking at the base of my penis with a firmer grip than usual. This helps me prolong the process and with it, the pleasure. While I masturbate, I concentrate my efforts on releasing all tension on my PC muscle and every other floor muscle including my sphincter. My lower body has to be completely calm however difficult it is. This way, I'm able to get closer to the PONR but I still stop at a safe distance. The results are amazing!

The way I do it, I often get great MMOs which are substantially more climaxing than regular penile orgasms. Consequently, I have developed a taste for the pleasures of the stroking movement itself without going all the way to the PONR. It allows me to edge much longer as I'm not concentrating on anything but the pleasures at hand (pun intended).

Finally, I give full credit to Aneros for opening my experiences to include the pleasures of edging and A-less over and above the pleasures of my regular sessions. All these new sensations were non-existent before January 2016.

Life is wonderful!

I believe orgasm and ejaculation are seperate events, although they often come hand in hand. I have been able to edge to the ponr, then stop, then approach it again, repeating this cycle until at some point i would have a single spurt of sperm shooting out (the first contraction of an ejaculation) but without having an orgasm and further ejaculation. I could then repeat this multiple times, each time ejaculating a single spurt of cum without orgasming. This somehow seems to show that crossing the ponr doesnt mean ejaculatory inevitability: i am able to have the first part of an ejaculation (the first spurt) but not the rest of it (full ejaculation and orgasm).

So yeah i believe the aneros directions are true :).

@cko23, so how does that "first part of an ejaculation (the first spurt)" feel? Does it feel really good even though you not experience "the rest of it (full ejaculation and orgasm)??? I am really intrigued and want to know!

@GGringo, I salute you in using your Aneros sessions to revitalize your arousal and to head to a safe distance near your PONR! 😉

@BigGlansDC With my emphasis these days on semen retention and male chastity, traditional edging/surfing sessions for me are quite rare now. This is due to the "blue-balls" effect which I will invariably get if I get too aroused without ejaculating. The same happens during sex with my wife (if I don't ejaculate). That leaves Aneros sessions which lately for me are pretty "tame". I don't think my sessions are long enough or arousing enough to even get close to a HFWO. I will soon get my Helix-Trident and that should be more stimulating; a few sessions will tell the story.

Sometimes, I will perform a "chastity edging" session where I will have a "ruined orgasm" and I have blogged about that. There is no enjoyment in a ruined orgasm. All the pleasures associated with the ejaculation are non-existent in a ruined orgasm. This type of orgasm is generally associated with male chastity/bondage. It is a way to "milk" the male's prostate yet effectively keep him in denial of orgasmic pleasure. It is generally performed as an edging except when the male is close to ejaculation, all penile stimulation is stopped. This allows the semen to 'flow" out of the penis (like water through a hose). It is not as exciting as it sounds; most guys would not find it enjoyable.

When I performed traditional edging/surfing, I could go typically perhaps 20-25 minutes before ejaculating. I use 'edgemeplease' and like it for the sessions. It takes a lot of finesse to stay near the PONR! For me, gentle taps/strokes on the frenulum will keep me at the PONR. But a few too many is enough to send me over the edge. I will generate a lot of precum if I take my time. I must ejaculate after that; otherwise I will get the intense "ache" of blue-balls! My ejaculate is usually more plentiful with edging.

@goldenboy, what you are practicing as regards the PONR seems quite advanced, but it is worthy for study and reflection. Maybe I will experience some of this in my 21 day SR challenge!

Firstly can I second what @GGringo said about relaxing the PC muscle for edging. Without that, i cant edge at all and fly right past the PONR without a snowballs chance in hell.
However the main thing leading up to my PONR is holding my breath! Its such a hard habit to break! But if you notice that moment of baited breath and choose to breath instead, its suddeny much easier to reel it back.

(you guys are all veritable orgasm wizards)

Hi @Kazama, welcome to Aneros Forum! I do not think that I am as great an orgasm wizard as @goldenboy, @GGringo, @rumel, or many other guys here, but Aneros has been a great teacher nonetheless in my nearly six year Aneros journey!

Great thread.....yes, the aneros for me over close to 7 years has taught me significantly about separation of orgasm and ejaculation. For me, I like to practice edging in conjunction of breath exercises. The build up is always in my lower core and abdominal muscles. At that point I can begin to move that energy through slow rhythmic breathing through my arms, legs, and spine. Repeating this builds a neurological response for me, that lets me know of what point is orgasm and the wonderful PONR. I agree relaxation is crucial, as I’ve learned to be fully relaxed but have my lower core muscles completely tensed at point of orgasm.....this usually triggers anal spasms, that when relaxed, allows the sexual energy to move upward from the prostate. It’s very much a mind game, that I find intriguing......For me, it has also allowed me to be much more “productive “ when it comes to traditional sexual interactions.....strictly beneficial for my lady friend.....haha

There is no enjoyment in a ruined orgasm. All the pleasures associated with the ejaculation are non-existent in a ruined orgasm. This type of orgasm is generally associated with male chastity/bondage. It is a way to "milk" the male's prostate yet effectively keep him in denial of orgasmic pleasure. It is generally performed as an edging except when the male is close to ejaculation, all penile stimulation is stopped. This allows the semen to 'flow" out of the penis (like water through a hose). It is not as exciting as it sounds; most guys would not find it enjoyable.

I can second most of what you wrote, @goldenboy, but indeed I'm one of the few guys more and more enjoying their ruined orgasms. Perhaps it feels different because I don't associate it only with chastity and bondage. With rewiring I learned to change my technique to go on with edging even after inducing the semen to "flow" like precum out of the penis. To taste it and then, after some seconds, rub the fresh semen into the glans and frenulum while staying rock-hard, gives me a joyful kick in the head and I will start over and try another ruined one. This morning I enjoyed three of them in a row, before I called it a session.

And it was a lot of enjoyment, I can tell. 🙂

@BigGlansDC To answer your question: that first spurt doesn't feel as good as when you'd have a complete ejaculation accompanied by orgasm. It does however give a feeling of relieve, as part of the pressure behind the ejaculation is released. A full feeling of orgasm only comes when completing the ejaculation. As long as i keep edging and keep releasing semen by the technique i described, i don't have an orgasm. I do have to note that if I use this technique a few times in a row, thereby releasing semen gradually, the 'final orgasm' will be less intense because the pressure behind it is less than when you'd cum at once. Naturally the amount of semen released in that final orgasm will be less than when ejaculating at once.

Naturally the amount of semen released in that final orgasm will be less than when ejaculating at once.

That's obviously right but only about three days more of SR will bring back your full capacity. 😉

Happy edging!

That is awesome, @cko23! You have great control!

I would like to share an experience that was influenced by this thread. Yesterday was day 14 of SR for me, and I decided to do some edging. The only stimulation I used was rubbing and flicking the underside of my penis head. I did this until right before the PONR three times. Each time relaxing through and only have a few dribbles of fluid. After the third time I decided I had to take a break because I didn’t want to go over the edge. Later that night while getting ready for bed, I decided to do some more. The first of those sessions went the same as earlier. The second one, however, I seemed to go one too many rubs. I stopped immediately and tried to relax through it, but I couldn’t. As I laid there waiting for the inevitable, an amazing thing happened, it felt like I could actually feel the fluid leaving my balls and moving up my shaft. This felt very pleasant and almost soothing. The cum just poured out, no squirt, and there was more of it than I had ever experienced before. I’m not sure if this was beyond a “ruined” but it felt great. Also, it seems as though my arousal levels are still very high today.

That's wonderful, @Nu2AS-O, in how you interacted with your PONR through edging. But then you had a "ruined" orgasm in that your cum just poured out, not ejaculated in spurts. I am now in day 19 of my SR challenge. I feel that I have been in the vicinity of my PONR in the hours since rise. I have been dealing my PONR through the Kegels! Glad that your arousal levels are still very high today. So are mine! I haven't felt so randy in a real long time! 😉

@Nu2AS-O Interesting to read about your experiences. I think it is similar to my cum-without orgasm technique :). If you practice this more often, you will (at some point) be able to release your cum in this way repeatedly within one session, thereby relieving some of the pressure but without having an orgasm. I certainly recognise the feeling of cum leaving your balls and moving up your shaft! It's lovely 🙂

The cum just poured out, no squirt, and there was more of it than I had ever experienced before. I’m not sure if this was beyond a “ruined” but it felt great. Also, it seems as though my arousal levels are still very high today.

Reads like the perfectly ruined, congrats! And thanks for sharing. Yeah, the frenulum area is a very fine spot. Nearly how I came last week after three weeks of SR, especially concerning the pause between edging and cumming. Only one big difference: four big spurts even up to my chest. Less than an hour left until my seventh day of SR is complete and just into rubbing that spot again. :p Uhhh, half an hour of edging later and already all wet from a nice amount of precum again, the best lube of all. And so tasty! 🙂

@SOwithoutAneros, I am in the 20th day of my 21 day SR challenge. Even though I am nearly 69 years old, today I am randy and horny. I feel that I am in the region of the PONR! 😉

Well I had to give in last night and surrender to an ejaculation after 13 days SR. I was near the end of a session with my Progasm Jr and just couldn’t think of a better way to end. I remembered reading this in one of the guides so gave it a go.

Note: For best results, bend the knees close to the stomach, squeeze the scrotum between the inner thighs (you can cross your thighs to squeeze more) then stretch your legs so that the penis skin and the scrotum are pulled back toward the base. It seems like the penis itself is stretched out, increasing its hardness and sensitivity. You may feel some pleasurable tautness caused by the stress added to the skin. As you approach orgasm, you will feel a contraction-like movement within the testicles.
Some people have ejaculatory orgasms without penile glans stimulation. Sometimes, just the tension applied to the penile skin will cause ejaculation.

It was a tremendous release, there seemed to be an initial flow of semen and then a good amount followed on ejaculation, my prostate pumping away at the same time. Sensational. I also note that I am still very aroused and horny, not usually how I feel afterwards.

I meant to say that I did not really experience a PONR, I think that if I had released the grip on my testes it might have stopped the ejaculation. Maybe at the last second it might have been too late but up until then I think I might have been able to stop, just didn’t really want to at all.

@Harper, This is covered eloquently in Stage 4 -- Penile Stimulation of the Older Version of the Aneros Instructions.

@BigGlansDC That’s it! I just pasted in the part of it that I tried. It’s a real good read.

@SOwithoutAneros, I am in the 20th day of my 21 day SR challenge. Even though I am nearly 69 years old, today I am randy and horny. I feel that I am in the region of the PONR! 😉

And I was a bit too careless in that region of PONR - now I'm back on my first day again. But it's crazy, I'm quite as horny as yesterday. And rock-hard with this sentence, starting over into a nice chairgasm.

@Harper and @SOwithoutAneros, thank you for responding to my most recent posts in this thread. The 21 day SR challenge and "diddling" in the region of PONR summit are powerful tools developing self-control, also known as continence. I plan to "diddle" alot with my own PONR all night long tonight when I retire to bed shortly! 😉

@BigGlansDC, have fun! 😉

Thank you, @SOwithoutAneros, for your encouragement. I had a great time last night, Saturday. However, I had to leave early for Palm Sunday at church which kept me occupied until late this afternoon. I was a good boy today because I wore a pair of briefs under my dress pants. But now at this writing. I am wearing jeans with my BIKE CUP underneath. Wild feelings from my SR challenge are again coursing through my body. 😀

P.S. You and others may want to this post which posted late Saturday morning:

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/why-regular-aneros-use-feels-so-good

You're welcome, @BigGlansDC, are you still coping with your SR challenge? Myself on a midrange level of arousal on day 5. Cheers!

@SOwithoutAneros, I made it to day 23 on Tuesday morning, two days past my 21 day SR challenge. I had a very pleasant masturbation session during with I had an ejaculatory orgasm beyond compare! I am now in day 5 of my second SR challenge!

Oh, @BigGlansDC, that sounds like a session of great joy. I'm happy for you. And you helped me to count right, cause I'm already on day 7 again. And I'm just feeling my balls aching a bit. Seems tonight or at least tomorrow morning the devilish side effects of day 7 will occur, sudden horniness and the wild desire to rub one out. 😮