Hello all,
So I'm fairly new (3 months maybe, 15-20 sessions) and I get some sensations sometimes but I'm not really making progress, I'm basically just getting lucky occasionally. I've spent a lot of time lurking on the forums and other places trying to learn new things to try. Trying to do controlled contractions like the instructions say does less than nothing for me so I've moved on to just trying to do nothing. This is where I run into an issue I think. When I relax I'm pretty sure the Aneros is coming out too far and never really goes back in. I have the Helix Trident and when I'm relaxed it sits at the second little indent from the bottom, is this where it's meant to be or should it go all the way to the bottom indent? Am I meant to keep my sphincter slightly contracted to keep it in?
I know the specifics are often different for each person, but finding specific answers to certain questions has proven to be quite difficult. I haven't been doing it super long I know, but when you can't get definitive progress or results it gets mildly frustrating. I feel what essentially feels like when someone lightly runs their fingers across your back, that sort of tickle but also great sensation, but if I'm honest I'm not even sure it's my prostate as It takes a lot of concentration just to feel that. I get a single "twitch" here and there but it never builds into anything I have no control over getting to this point and am unsure how I even get there when I do. I focus on breathing and what feels good in the moment but after 30 minutes or so it devolves into irritation I guess.
I know there is no road map to progress, but I feel I should have made a few more steps than I have thus far, any advice would be fantastic and if you have any questions I'll answer anything I can. I'm completely open to suggestion, just sort of stuck with my own progress and not sure where to go from here. My sessions start out with good intentions and a "neutral" mind for lack of a better term, but lately by the end result in frustration. Knowing if the Aneros is in the proper position to start might help, at least I'd know mechanically I'd be on the right track.
Frustration is a bit of a killer for Aneros also the more you try to make something happen the lest chance it will happen.
It doesn't it matter the sensations you are feeling are your prostate or something else. Just concentrate on them and enjoy them. Aneros is a finicky mistress who only does what she wants. So accept what she offers and enjoy. Next time she visits it will be better and longer.
@Galrenth Always glad to help! Note that the "curve" of the Helix points towards the P (perineum)-tab; the other tab is the K (kundalini)-tab which nestles near your anus. No, I don't believe the bottom indent comes into play during my sessions. And make sure your lube is good (you didn't say what you use). Your "do-nothing" approach is good with the HT; try to wait-it-out for some involuntary contractions. Then you can expand on them with some gentle ones of your own. Good luck to you and please keep posting on your progress!
@goldenboy Thanks for the answer! Ok I assume it's the right depth as long as the P-tab is making contact? I'm currently using sliquid H2O as it's what I had left over. I usually use that lube for the Aneros itself and I'll usually prelube with some coconut oil in case it turns into a longer session. Also I feel like I get sensations early on (first 10 minutes or so) but then they slowly fade and it seems no matter what I do whether I wait 40 minutes or more they never come back. I'm assuming it just comes down to patience and more sessions at this point.
I'm also curious and maybe you can answer this. Recently I've started having like a sort of tickling (sort of like much much lighter version of sensations with the Aneros) randomly when doing something as mundane as watching a podcast on youtube. Is this part of the rewiring or a result of that? I'm not complaining and it doesn't impact my life in any negative way, just curious if it's common or what not.
@Galrenth Great! In my sessions with HT, I just make sure that the P-tab makes light contact, that's all that is required. Your prostate is being "awakened" and what you are feeling is known as 'Aless" --- a normal occurrence (you can read about it in the WIKI). It shouldn't be disruptive; it is your prostate "whispering" to you that it is alive and well! As has been said so well before, Aneros is a lifelong "journey"!
I have the Helix Trident and when I'm relaxed it sits at the second little indent from the bottom, is this where it's meant to be or should it go all the way to the bottom indent? Am I meant to keep my sphincter slightly contracted to keep it in?
The Aneros is designed to naturally locate itself in the anal sphincter tunnel as illustrated in the introductory PM I sent you. It doesn't need to be inserted all the way to the 'T' junction.
I assume it's the right depth as long as the P-tab is making contact?
Yes.
I'm assuming it just comes down to patience and more sessions at this point.
For the most part the answer is Yes but there are numerous factors which affect the learning curve here, merely having more sessions will not necessarily accelerate your progress. The frustration you are experiencing is a very common phenomenon with new Aneros users, I advise doing some more reading and give yourself more time. The Aneros experience is not a race or competition but a learning journey without an end point. Frustration is the result of expectations not being met, when you start dropping your expectations I suspect your frustrations will abate with them. Please see the thread Identifying Obstacles to Progress and the complimentary thread Identifying Facilitators to Progress.
Recently I've started having like a sort of tickling (sort of like much much lighter version of sensations with the Aneros) randomly when doing something as mundane as watching a podcast on youtube. Is this part of the rewiring or a result of that?
As @goldenboy noted, this is a sign that you are in fact starting to feel the effects of your practice and the rewiring taking place. There is little you can do to accelerate the learning process other than eliminating the self created obstacles, once you've done that the journey forawrd becomes much more relaxed, comforting and rewarding.
Please follow up on the links I provided you in that introductory PM.
Good Vibes to You !
@rumel Holy cow! Thanks so much for the detailed replies and the PM, I will definitely dive into that. I was doing a lot of research and stuff sort of as preparation prior to buying an Aneros and I may have overwhelmed myself with info. It'll do me some good to go back and re-familiarize myself with some of the stickies here and also to check out the stuff you provided.
Most of my frustration stemmed mainly from not even being sure I'm on the right track, but it sounds like I'm slowly on my way so at least I can remain at ease as far as that goes. That should help stop my thoughts from being more concerned if i'm doing properly vs enjoying the experience. It's likely that I'm making something that shouldn't be, much more complicated and in depth than it really is. My mind gets going too fast and I probably just need to slow everything way down.
Again thanks so much for the responses I really appreciate it!
@goldenboy you reference the curve being towards the prostate and the Perineum tab. I don't know why, but I seem to be confused about the term "curve". You are using the same language as the WIKI and various other places. I would get the idea that a "curve" references the smooth curve away from where the tip is pointing.
However, the generic massager images I have seen seem to show what I would interpret as a "wavy" side facing the prostate. I have recently started riding the Aneros (Helix Trident) with no results. Probably too early. But... I have wondered if this is because I may be inserting the Aneros backwards due to a misunderstanding of the term "curve".
I have been placing the HT such that the "wavy" portion faces the front of my body. Hence, the "curve" (long smooth surface) faces my back. Is this correct? Any help you or anyone more experienced can give is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I have been placing the HT such that the "wavy" portion faces the front of my body. Hence, the "curve" (long smooth surface) faces my back. Is this correct?
Yes, this is the correct orientation. This image shows the orientation of the Helix Classic,
your Helix Trident should be similarly oriented. Good Vibes to You !
Perhaps we should better distinguish between inner and outer curve, the inner curve always shows to the front, because the tip shall touch the intestinal wall where the prostate can be massaged. Only imagine how you would bend your finger to reach your prostate and you can't do it wrong even using any other of the Aneros tools*. (*Except the Tempo and Peridise sisters, the Muze, EVI, a tube of sessions lube, just kidding. ;))
Cheers, Mart
There are many roadmaps to success on the forum,and they all work imo,maybe not right away,but they do. The first 6 weeks,I felt zero,1-2 sessions a week,so similar to you. I starterd wondering was my Helix even touching my prostate,as I’m over the 5”10 some have said is the cut off point for a helix,that tall guys need a longer one,so I thought GREAT,my prostate is probably in my shoulder! It is reaching your gland,you can feel it,you just don’t believe it much yet,but you will,(play about with the different techniques,you’ll find something that works).Then luckily like you say,I did something that gave me a single p-wave,like a single strum of a guitar string,and it was gone,like what’s been said before,I tried to control it,recreate it but nope. Nothing. Few more sessions,got a few more waves,then it started getting easier and faster to get waves going,to get back to previous ‘checkpoints’ and here is my take on why,I started leaving sessions on a positive note,when 1 wave turned to 3,I thought good,progress,however small is progress,3 turned to 5,5-55 etc. And when I felt new sensations,progress,all the way to my first dry orgasm,which was one of the best days of my life,after,I skipped around the house like a spring lamb. Positive attitude is a must.
Then I started going hell for leather doing everything i could in search of this enigma they call a super-o,that’s what stagnated progress,I wrote a frustrated post on here,and got replies from most of the ppl on this post.All had the same message,trying too hard,doing too much,back off a little. I took that on the chin,stopped chasing,and it paid off.
Maybe just be mindful of the sensations,not focus too much on your prostate region,when you talk of concentrating,I picture someone reading an important document with a furrowed brow,enjoy what comes,as it comes instead. You’ll get there eventually.Some poor buggers on this forum have been at it 10 years,with not so much as a flutter,so your already on your way,with things starting to move at a mere 3mths..
All: When I describe a "curve" of the Aneros massager, I am referring to an imaginary line perpendicular to the line of the base (containing the P-tab (and K-tab or handle). That line is not exactly perpendicular but rather curves inward towards the prostate (see rumel's diagram). If the massager is inserted backwards, there would not be the requisite pressure applied to the prostate. Hope this is helpful!
I believe I have it clear in my mind. Nice to know I have been correct all along. I like SO's idea regarding referencing inner curve and outer curve. Thanks so much to all for the clarification.