This isnt a normal thread but hey I figured I'd see what response I get. I'm sure @Gilman will weigh in....cant wait..yippeee
So my question is this do any of you ever wonder why women dont stay around here for long? The reason I ask is due to these posts:
euphemistic
September 2013
I have absolutely no idea why a straight man would want a woman to f**k him with a plastic penis when there's lots of men willing and able to do that with the real thing. Seriously, would someone summarize how a woman acting like a man can give pleasure to men who would never think of having sex with a man. I get the submissive piece for the man I think and I can imagine how it might turn on a woman to make a man submissive. I have no clue what's going on with pegging and I want to understand because so many men here seem into pegging. But I don't want to wade through the 10 pages of this thread in the hope of finding an answer.
Now joking or not that was one of the most insensitive posts I've ever seen, even though later he said he was "joking" yet he NEVER went back and edited it. Now I know I've had some posts that were NOT nice but damn. This is so woman bashing...as if every man should be gay, as if playing with your anus is gay. Stereotypes.
GilmanMay 9 Come on Deva, where do you get off speaking with such authority? "I have NEVER heard of any Aneros device causing any type of digestive problems (if anything they usually help) such as constipation." Now just how many people have you observed to conclude this. Your phony husband?? Am I the only one here that sees through all this? It is quite obvious you are a male, and snarky at that.
I this is self explanatory.
Alex_xxx
May 10
@devajones.. is this what you refer to as being snarky and an asshole?
"@devajones.. You've never become constipated after a few hours progasm use?? Really??? Wow.."
If so.. I think you should go and take a cold shower dude!
By Wow.. I mean that I almost ALWAYS get constipated after a few hours of progasm use.. my BM`s take A LOT longer to reach their destination.
Diva or dramaqueen? are you gonna be both?
PS. NOW - I`m being snarky with you.. see the difference?
This one was astonishing to me as nobody ever chimed in and let him know that their aneros was not causing constipation. Am i wrong in thinking most men dont have a constipation problem due to Aneros use? I mean my ass is the same as a mans minus the prostate...I dont get constipated nor do the guys I've mentioned it to....
There are other instances I could post them for a while. However, to let those that are tired of me know...I'm not going anywhere. I have better fish to fry.
" Do you guys ever wonder why there aren't more women around here??? "
Not really...
...Except that the good stuff so much makes it for the bad... Which leads us to only having very clever girls posting in here. Zaneblue, Nurselady, Ruby Ryder, yourself... Do i keep the list rolling?
This said, your opening message is so badly edited I wonder if you deserve that title for once. 😀
@devajones it's only a few. Most of us value your comments and opinions. Just put it down to pussy envy..!
Hi @divajones Unfortunately No I dont wonder why there are not more woman on this forum.The comments like you have shown are not helpful at all, that and some of the words used in other posts like the "C" word which are very disrespectful.
Unfortunately as this forum has grown over the last few years there has been a influx of persons that seem to be nasty and or not tolerant to our gay friends or in the case above not tolerant to women or straight guys.
The overall niceness of the forum community has fallen somewhat. Not to say that it is gone all together.
Not all men are brought up to respect women either and in some cultures you are second grade citizens.
Its not fare nor right, just look at the Taliban! And for whatever reason this religion is growing. Crazy shit!
Christian beliefs popped its head up at one stage and started pushing it way into posts until a agreement was made to have their own threads so only Christians had to read it.
This in turn has stopped some how? the Christian users from quoting gods words in general posts which was very annoying. I am Christian but not practicing. Guess you could call me a fence sitter 🙂 Hes done nothing for me at all.
Anyway the point is the harmony of the forum has dropped a little, debate is met with rudeness, people post asking for others thoughts and when they get a response that they dont agree with or is not what they are looking for instead of being gracious about it are rude and call people names like "trolls" or even liars.
Meditation "practices" are also in the threads when most people dont understand, which for the most part are managed well but sometime can be overwhelming to users that dont understand it.
Lets hope the different fractions of this diverse forum can "pull their head in" and we ALL can make a effort to be nicer and more tolerant.
Just because its a forum elsewhere doesent mean your best behaviour should not be used.
You as a woman are in a minority, that is not to say you are not greatly valued by the forum as a whole.
My wife works in a "Mans work force" its a hard road you travel keep your head girl! Your just as good as them!
Peace and good orgasms to all.
@Bunk LOL hilarious
@braveneworld thanks for a thoughtful post. makes sense. I know I'm valued here...by some...and I appreciate it.
@devajones --- You, or anyone else, could be a man pretending to be a woman, pretending to be a turtle for all I care! As long as civility remains an overriding principle, I'll stay. Absent civility, this board goes away and we miss the opportunity to share one of the best kept secrets of human sexuality to go mainstream in the western world in centuries!
It's ok for anyone to be skeptical, it's NOT ok to accuse, directly or indirectly that anyone is lying about their experiences! I stay away from the discussions that are not interesting to me, or where I don't have anything to contribute!
This community is the absolute BEST for what it was designed, and I hope it stays that way!
I would suggest that anyone who can't keep a positive outlook on their journey, and spends more time whining or complaining, be ignored until they check their attitude! There should be NO sense of privilege of ANY kind expressed anywhere here because NOBODY is owed anything!
Either be civil, kind and compassionate to each other or go away!
Anyone who starts or feeds an argument should take a step back and try again!
There are few absolutes when it comes to how we each share in this wonderful experience, and mostly what each of us needs is a positive attitude, an open mind and a kind heart!
I would kindly ask that the snarky bickering stops today! I realize I'm powerless, but these are my feelings, now for all to heed or discard!
But, I know my success is owed entirely to the kindness of those whom I've acknowledged and thanked many times, and many times to come!
Can we each look at ourselves and try to change any of the negatives we feel into positives?
I'm done!
TG
agree completely with @braveneworld & Theme_Gasm. If these disagreements get anymore out of hand I fear the knowledgeable people are going to stop visiting and contribute. Whatever happened to agree to disagree? Whatever happened to "if you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing?" My two cents.
I acknowledge I have reacted rather than responded. I shall mend my ways. My journey is paramount but I have got waylaid. @devajones and other brave girls thank you for your contribution. It is different and of course comes from a different angle. That is precious for me at least.
I do have sensible questions about a girls use of Peridise and resulting orgasms etc. but I will wait until I can frame the question appropriately and the forum has settled down.
Thank you all for the posts above, I hope we can bring the courtesy and respect back into this forum - it is ground breaking and it would be a pity if we had schisms so early in 'the way'.
@isvara et al,BRAVO to you all!
I simply haven't been able to bring myself to contribute to many recent threads.
Let us turn over a new leaf!
Most real women are too busy attempting to balance a career, a husband and perhaps a family. They likely just don't have the time to spend countless hours hanging out in a forum, blogging and chatting endlessly with strange men giving advice on how to properly use an anal prostate massaging device. Most real women just don't have that level and depth of first hand knowledge just by observing their husband. Deva, I guess your husband must just be one lucky fellow.
As an aside, I find it interesting that in Deva's tirades against me she accuses me of being gay, as though that is some sort of insult. Whether I were gay, straight, bi, trans or a cross dresser should be irrelevant. I only take issue with impostors posing as a different gender handing out advice to individuals longing for attention from a female.
Deva please quit sending me messages threatening to report me to the administrators of this site. They can read my posts. I have not used profanity nor violated any of the forum rules. Your a big boy, now grow up.
Deva, you left out my corrections and amplification of my original question about pegging. I've copied my entire posts to that thread below to give some context. As everyone can see I made a mistake with my initial post and regretted it later. I did NOT demean women in any way in the original post. That's what you want to read. However I DID try to rephrase my quest in a more understandable way. I'm human and make mistakes. As everyone can see I acknowledge my mistakes and move on. Some people don't acknowledge their mistakes and never learn. I don't speak for all gay men, just myself. But I try to comport myself with dignity restraint and integrity as best I can as a fallible human.
As to your original question, I know of one woman at least who avoids you in chat because you mock her. There's always been a scarcity of women in this chat room I hear BECAUSE IT'S A SPACE PRIMARILY FOR MEN TO DISCUSS OUR BODIES, OUR CAPACITY FOR PLEASURE, OUR CONCERNS AS MEN, OUR LOVES, OUR DIFFERENCES, OUR SPIRITUALITY, AND JUST GUY STUFF. No woman has been sent away to my knowledge because they have felt unwelcome. I've been happy to meet every woman who comes here if she is friendly. I have a great deal of sympathy for women actually.
Here are my entire posts to the pegging thread.
September 2013
I have absolutely no idea why a straight man would want a woman to f**k him with a plastic penis when there's lots of men willing and able to do that with the real thing. Seriously, would someone summarize how a woman acting like a man can give pleasure to men who would never think of having sex with a man. I get the submissive piece for the man I think and I can imagine how it might turn on a woman to make a man submissive. I have no clue what's going on with pegging and I want to understand because so many men here seem into pegging. But I don't want to wade through the 10 pages of this thread in the hope of finding an answer.
My next post in the thread:
thank you Ruby Ryder and Xileh, for your responses but II really didn't mean to be disrespectful or judgmental in asking my questions and was just trying to be light in the way I asked them (quess it didn't work). I guess my question was poorly phrased.
However, you really didn't answer my questions as I knew the information that you gave me already and was really asking something else. I'm gay and really don't understand straight men's attraction to women in general (well maybe a little), never mind what men see in pegging so I asked an honest question.Ruby, I looked at http://pegging101.com/do-women-love-pegging/, and got an idea why women love pegging. I guess what I was really asking is why do men love pegging. Still looking for an answer to that question. I wanted to know more about the erotic fantasies that energize pegging for men rather than the mechanics. I know about prostate stimulation and the pleasure that gives but a big part of the pleasure, maybe especially with pegging, is the fantasy component. I'm clueless about that. And to my mind, pegging looks like being f**ked by a man which I can relate to, so my confusion is natural.
Maybe it's one of those things where "you just had to be there", like asking a gay man why he's turned on by another man (which is a question I used to get before it became politically incorrect to ask it). It's such an intimate question and so basic to our nature that it's difficult to even understand why someone is asking it. I guess I'm interested in everything about men and what makes us tick. Thus, the question.
If this response comes off as disrespectful too, just ignore it and I won't ask again. I'm sorry about any offense I caused.
My next post:
Hi Dave, I was wondering about that, if the pegging device was pleasuring the woman too with the double dildo. That sounds sexy to me, both getting pleasure with the same motions, the same device and the same kind of deep pleasures at the same time, with each other. I think I'm beginning to get the picture of what pegging is about. thank you.
So you mix it up sexually with your wife, sometimes f**king her and sometimes being f**ked? I guess I could have figured that out for myself if I thought about it. But my imagination doesn't usually go that way. I have been pretty limited sexually up to now.
I've sometimes thought that 2 men with aneros's inside and getting sexual, even going through dry orgasms or super Os at the same time or alternately, would be my ultimate fantasy. Maybe even sharing the same device, back and forth! Do any of the gay men here do that?
I noticed that I prefer to be penetrated over being the penetrator in general, although I usually go back and forth (at least in fantasies) being either and sometimes being both at the same time. I also noticed that us bottoms seem to go into a kind of trance when penetrated while the top one doesn't exactly go to the same place. Maybe it's just the focus on what's going on deep inside and the luxury of NOT HAVING TO DO ANYTHING for a change. Just enjoy the pleasure that we're receiving from our partner.
Xileh's reply:
thank you for replying, misunderstandings happen. I apologize for reading your post incorrectly, I enjoy your other posts and look forward to them. I have learned so much from our gay members that I have changed my view on great many topics.
I think you have a very good question. I think that for whatever the reason the individual male attraction to pegging is, men do have to allow themselves to become vulnerable so to speak. That's a complex situation that would make generalities difficult. I look forward to the responses.
I need some time to reflect on my answer.
Xileh
@euphemistic if you read my first post you noted that i said later you said you were joking. you did bash women saying that a man is willing to fuck those who want in suggesting that it would be more suited, and better than having a woman do it with a plastic penis. Yes @binymph does avoid me because she is the one I was telling you about when i tried to hash out whatever problem you have with me. You are not knowledgeable of any of the conversations binymph and I have had. I know she is a man, I know she is fake, I know she is luring you in. You are the ONLY one in chat that believes her stories. Her and John are the EXACT same person. Sorry to let you know. I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from reading anything i post. you dont like me...why read what i type i dont read what you type until you put it in chat then leave...
Now onto the comment you have in all caps
There's always been a scarcity of women in this chat room I hear BECAUSE IT'S A SPACE PRIMARILY FOR MEN TO DISCUSS OUR BODIES, OUR CAPACITY FOR PLEASURE, OUR CONCERNS AS MEN, OUR LOVES, OUR DIFFERENCES, OUR SPIRITUALITY, AND JUST GUY STUFF. No woman has been sent away to my knowledge because they have felt unwelcome. I've been happy to meet every woman who comes here if she is friendly.
First off this is not the chatroom...this is the forum. Secondly women are a big part of a lot of these guys lives. Yes I know not yours...however if you read the poll on sexual orientation you would see the majority of men here are straight or bi, meaning they deal with women more than you. Now what that means is the majority of men here either want, have, or desire a woman sexually. That means that talking women is part of GUY STUFF. I dont know if you have ever sat in on a men convos that arent gay, but most of them talk about women a great deal of the time. Now that makes what you said above so insensitive it makes no sense. However you cant see that because you dont have the ability to dissect what you say and hear it from a different perspective. Please dont get angry because I call you out on it. It needs correction. Now your statement is totally false as to you welcoming women. You said you disliked me from the very first day I entered chat, you NEVER talked to me. You said hi to me maybe 3 times....but constantly welcome everybody else. I didnt take offense I already felt your energy, I'm very aware of things like that. I'm sorry if you cant tell that when I rib people I'm joking, I'm sorry if you feel like I take over conversations...I dont tell you to be quiet you just do. Work on feeling my energy and you would see that I'm not against you. I wont tolerate your negative energy towards me though. I've tried more than once to get along with you but you ALWAYS shut down telling me you're leaving, or you wont read what i type, or you're tired, i could go on for days with your excuses.
The list is getting longer...
BTW I'm out of this thread. Unlike some I've said what I want and answered to my satisfaction. I'm at peace with myself and am turning my attention away from this annoying rant and focusing on 2 major life changes going on now simultaneously, my personal and spiritual development, my friends. I don't care what anyone thinks of this. People who know me can figure this out.
@DevaJones
I really don't appreciate you "badmouthing" me, especially when copying my text into a new and different thread. Now why would you go and do something like that?
And are you really directly linking a few comments that offended you, to the main reason there arent alot of women on the forum? Did you ever take a step back to see what you wrote to get the responses that offended you?
2nd. To answer your post, I believe there is a good reason why there arent alot of women on this forum. Like:
1. EVI hasn't really gotn great feedback.
2. Women are unable to SuperO like us, to the best of my knowledge.
3. Way to few women would take interest in something like this - just for their man. Women as I know them are pretty good at concentrating on what they themselves get from their time spent.
4. Speaking for my self here, and my sexual lust for women and sex has diminished alot since I started with the aneros. I am now able to explore different aspects of my own body. I am also more at peace and able to concentrate better on different aspects of my life than sex and women.
5. If others are like me (from number 4), then this is not the place where women would be hit on by the straight guys. And the rest might be gay or bi.. So, add in to the mix that girls in general, as I know them, love to have their egos filled by men hitting on them.This just might not be the best place for ego-filling.
With that said.. Can anyone at all prove/confirm that you really are a woman? Can anyone confirm that I'm a man?
So why is your nick Deva btw? Is it like in Diva/Dramaqueen? Just curious..
@Gilman
Don't you realize how stupid you make yourself seem here?
He's entitled to his opinion. And I feel it was legit!
2. Women are unable to SuperO like us, to the best of my knowledge.
You haven't been paying much attention did you?
SuperO is a G-Spot orgasm. Period.
And this is one of the reason we need the women here... Don't you see why?
@Gilman
Don't you realize how stupid you make yourself seem here?
He's entitled to his opinion. And I feel it was legit!
Having an opinion and being repeatedly rude with others are two different things.
Now if you don't realize Deva is indeed a woman then you either didn't read her much or you don't know much about them, sorry to say it.
@Canacan. Quoting
"SuperO is a G-Spot orgasm. Period.
And this is one of the reason we need the women here... Don't you see why?"
That really makes sense. No wonder males feel insecure and often need to repress females. Aneros paves the way for us, or at least creates an opportunity for whole body orgasms for starters. We may also need to give females permission to let go and enjoy their potential. The sky is the limit. With the current freedom we enjoy I think it is time to surge forward and enjoy as much as we can of ourselves. Otherwise 'what a waste'.
@cancan
No!
And you seem to be new here.. You might want to look up my thread about prostate, g-spot superO theory. And there are similarities, but far from the same.
@cancan
No!
And you seem to be new here.. You might want to look up my thread about prostate, g-spot superO theory. And there are similarities, but far from the same.
Sorry... I read your post and have to say you don't know what you are talking about. Too much to correct, almost everything is wrong. The logic is wrong too. Why go to such length to disprove the obvious?
I am not sure the question of prostate and Gspot being the same or not anatomically or from embryogenesis is that relevant...because functionally they are obviously the same: same method of stimulation, same mental obstacles, same effect when producing an orgasm. And you know what? No surprise, the brain is doing it all and the brain is the same.
Even the journey is mostly the same for women starting anorgasmic (or at least vaginally anorgasmic) and following the same path as us... 95% of the experience and milestones are the same. Just read Marrena Lindeberg (Zaneblue here) or Trish Causey (of ArousedWomanBlog)... their experience mostly matches that of the most advanced users here. And why is that? Because this is the same subject. Plain and simple.
If you don't already know it you might want to read about Occam's Razor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occa m's_razor
So my question is this do any of you ever wonder why women dont stay around here for long?Frankly, NO, I don't wonder about it. The Aneros devices were originally developed to cater to the male population, marketing was directed at males, The reputation has been built upon this male oriented product and this Forum evolved from a 'Guestbook' where product users (men) reported on their results from using the product. Since there was no female oriented product available there was very little interest from the female community to participate. This went on for a number of years before the 'Peridise' uni-sex devices were first introduced.
Prior to that introduction, and the initiation of the present forum there was very little interest demonstrated by women to participate in any discussions about prostate play. My suspicion is that women felt reluctant to discuss sexuality issues in a male dominated forum, talking about a bodily organ they don't even possess (actually they do it's just configured differently). For those few women who have chosen to participate ('Alana', 'Boston Babe', 'buttercup', 'ForUs', 'happygirl', "happywife", 'hiswife', IlyenaMiranda', 'Lava', 'Lilylol', 'lynn2694', 'midnitebelle51', 'musicman', 'NunyaGA', 'nurselady', 'QueenBee', 'Ruby Ryder', 'Yoshiko' and 'zaneblue' (Marenna Lindberg – Author of “The Orgasmic Diet” for women), most of them have only been asking basic questions regarding usage by the men in their lives. Once they have received the information they were looking for they departed the forum.
I also suspect many women have been 'turned off' by the graphic descriptions of the sex practices employed by some members, by the chauvinistic and misogynistic attitudes expressed by some (Men's Club mentality) and of course ample examples of egotism, arrogance, bombastity, stupidity, insensitivity & ignorance displayed by a few of the men here. I certainly am not surprised many women would want to stay away from such confrontational situations, they have almost nothing to gain from such interactions, they can get all the information they want or need simply by reading, no participation required.
Now I know I've had some posts that were NOT nice but damn.Now, with having said the above, there have been a couple of strong willed, opinionated women (such as yourself) who have not been afraid to jump into this testosterone tainted forum pool. In this forum, with its diverse membership of personalities, there are bound to be clashes of ideologies and philosophies, occasionally these clashes have flared up into flame wars, name calling and a breakdown of civil dialogue. Nothing good is accomplished by these types of exchanges and they will not be tolerated.
Provocative postings which bait people into responding by 'calling them out' only invites hostile retorts, it may make the trolls smile and inflate their egos but does nothing to improve the information content of this forum. We would all be well advised to clearly state what is our opinion without asserting it as fact or ultimate truth. Everyone has an opinion and they are welcome to express it here in a civil and respectful manner but bullying tactics are not going to be tolerated either. Threads have been frozen, posts & threads have been deleted and to date one member was banned for failure to 'play nice' in the pool. If people want to heatedly argue their opinions then they need to take their arguments elsewhere, NOT IN THIS FORUM.
Good Vibes to You !
@Rumel eloquently and well said, as usual!
There are many men on this forum who greatly value and appreciate female input, as we would love to share the amazing journey with our partners. Many of us have some obstacles/inhibitions to overcome introducing the subject to our partners and find a revelation into the female psyche most helpful and encouraging.
I can only hope others on the forum can maintain frank and courteous discussions while keeping in mind that women will be part of the audience as well.
@rumel
You are right. I must apologize if I have ever seemed to behave like my ideas are worth more than those of others. I don't own any ultimate truth on anything... But sometimes the ego gets in the way I guess. So politely agreeing to disagree seems to be the better stance. Thanks for the reminder.
@Alex_xxx how did I bad mouth you? Also realize that the response I gave you was prompted by what you said to me. You didnt read what I said correctly then posted something sarcastically to me as if I deserved that. My first post was nothing but positive and helpful. If you cant see that sorry. You posted what you posted and i copied it and did not edit it. I didnt make you type it. Also you keep asking the same question about the Diva/Dramaqueen thing, first off its spelled Deva...it does not mean Diva there is a difference. My nickname has spiritual meaning for me thats for me to know. I didnt just make it up. I'm not so vain as to call myself a Diva...thats just stupid. Also I've conversed with other male people here and when comparing notes...the Super O does feel the same more or less than a gspot orgasm, just as the clitoral orgasm is the same as a penile orgasm minus the ejaculation. Sorry you didnt know that, guess you do now...maybe but i'm sure you will stick to your guns. Fine with me. I'm glad Aneros has lessened your desire for women....I think its good for us.
Taking interest in prostate play is NOT just for the interest of the man. I have personally felt stronger erections after my husband started using his Aneros. I honestly feel that prostate health is important to overall health, I mean if I can keep him alive just a little longer and keep his sex life going longer...doesnt that benefit me? Also sharing energy during sessions is almost orgasmic to me alone. I as I progress through my own journey I am getting very close to being able to have orgasms with no clitoral stimulation nor penetration for gspot stimulation. Hopefully soon I will be able to elevate myself to that soon, its a work in progress.
To solve the Evi thing, yes here there is not great feedback on Evi, and not much feedback or reviews of Tempo or Peridise from women either. That will be fixed soon. I have a very good idea why women dont give Evi great reviews, part of it being we are addicted to vibration. Men have taught us how to masturbate just like them and it is a vicious cycle. I'll expand on that more when I do my full Evi review. However thats for a different thread.
I'm sorry if all the women you know only go around guys to get hit on. Most women are NOT like that, yes we like being flirted with but half of the guys that hit on us creep us out anyway.
@euphemistic pegging may appear as something different, but it is still a very male/female thing. She is soft and sexy and curvy and in our circumstance loving. But she is stimulating me in a very different and fulfilling way in a place that is otherwise hard to reach. Afterward, we are very close. It is the same as a handjob or blow job from her only blissfull. But is is very sensual and she remains very feminine.
Her stimulating my Prostate is much different than my Aneros sessions.
Hope it helps explain.
Wow... I usually have a pretty long fuse. But cancan and dvajones with their untactful and tasteless posts manages to burn it pretty fast. I'll let them play by themselves and hope they don't keep talking sh*t about other members and twist their words like it seems they do pretty often.
This forum really has gone down the drain and they have fuelled the fire all the way. I'm out of this thread!