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07/30/2022 4:06 pm
Hello
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I have always defended in my posts the kegels for aneros practice. They worked at the time. I made countless variations in quantity vs. force . I would have to do a probabilistic calculation to say I tried too hard and the answer is.....
Kegels are not necessary (for aneros practice) as I thought. I noticed that as soon as I stopped doing contractions (A week or so later) the pleasures were mildly intense.
My theory is that doing kegels somehow tones the muscles in the area but seems to increase the muscular response (disproportionate response) and also a slight desensitization (due to the muscles being strong with super hard erections).
I changed my frequency of anero sessions to 1 or 2 times a week only. Give your prostate time , let your anus convince you that it needs to be filled with aneros , it will do that if you slow down . Remembering that with this time of abstinence the pleasures are beyond what human lucidity can bear.
If you just put your index finger resting on your arm (fleshy area) for a few seconds, you will feel the touch and a slight pressure on the skin. When we insert the aneros and it lies down (involves / touches) our prostate, the sensation is similar. An initial light (very light) pressure involving the anal canal and prostate this pressure will be almost unconscious and within minutes it will turn into a pleasurable pressure. That feeling was there from the start. Why didn't I identify?
Many questions and few answers.
Why couldn't I do it before? The rewiring theory that other users have proposed here must be right. You can / should explore the techniques that can lead you to reconnection, but in my case it was all to realize that what was needed was just time and basic relaxation for the prostate, anus and brain to learn about this pleasure, nothing more.
After 4 or 5 uninterrupted months with few sessions that could be called weak, I can say I'm reconnected. I use the white Elpho Trident.
What do you think ? Was it just time?
@lonelywolf we want to hear you say how amazing your super O was someday. Let's set off fireworks to celebrate for you. Keep going and good luck.
Thanks !
07/30/2022 7:28 pm
The part about your body telling you that you need a session is dead on. I get giddy with excitement anticipating my next session.
07/30/2022 11:24 pm
I haven't done kegels in two years. Not gonna lie, kegels are what led to my awakening and rewiring (didn't even take a month once it clicked...after 12 years!), but my journey took several turns and I leaned more into the do nothing method. I recognized the feelings at this point, so after a cruel dry spell, I decided to quit trying to force it and the super-o came alive in me again.
Seems to me when my body responds to the pleasure of an Aneros device, I'm getting kegel exercises without "going to the gym." I also discovered that the Progasm was a nice tool to kickstart movement if I am "out of shape" or out of "practice." I guess my body having more to grip makes for a more aggressive massage. That will usually echo through me for a few days. This practice is a lot of fun!
07/31/2022 1:15 am
How long between your sessions? @reddog152
Definitely one per week but if the opportunity presents itself two per week.
07/31/2022 3:40 am
Kegels are not necessary (for aneros practice) as I thought. I noticed that as soon as I stopped doing contractions (A week or so later) the pleasures were mildly intense.
The main reason noobs should do them is to start to create a mind muscle connection. These muscles usually just work autonomously all our lives. It’s aids in learning individual control of them,helping to achieve the milestone of separating orgasm and ejaculation,which is very beneficial for the journey imo. We don’t need to do 500 a day,just some sets and reps to achieve anal fitness.
My theory is that doing kegels somehow tones the muscles in the area but seems to increase the muscular response (disproportionate response) and also a slight desensitization (due to the muscles being strong with super hard erections).
Training a muscle will indeed increase response. This isn’t necessarily a bad when you want to massage a gland with muscle manipulation.
An initial light (very light) pressure involving the anal canal and prostate this pressure will be almost unconscious and within minutes it will turn into a pleasurable pressure. That feeling was there from the start. Why didn't I identify?
Are we talking about do nothing technique? What if we aren’t using a toy? Are we A-Less?
Why couldn't I do it before? The rewiring theory that other users have proposed here must be right. You can / should explore the techniques that can lead you to reconnection, but in my case it was all to realize that what was needed was just time and basic relaxation for the prostate, anus and brain to learn about this pleasure, nothing more.
This is debatable. Is there really rewiring? Or do we just need to get into the right state of mind? The brain is quick,but it’s not that quick,some guys had a super o on the very first try,which blows rewiring out of the water. That says to me,they already had the right psyche. Some have to create it over time. Many many factors come into play,life issues,health,weight,fitness,life stress,relationships and sex lives to name a few. It’s a deep dive! You could argue there was nothing to learn about as this equipment was always there 🙂
After 4 or 5 uninterrupted months with few sessions that could be called weak, I can say I'm reconnected. I use the white Elpho Trident.
Maybe you just gave up the ghost with trying hard,and that dropped the expectation and any siege mentality and shit fell into place. One things for sure,there’s more than one was to skin this cat.
I had my first super o from pure mechanics,i learned how to activate different muscles individually and that tension+contractions = pleasure + rhythm = orgasm. But I come back to psyche. I believed in that shit down to my very bones,that’s probably why it worked. I’d be happy after an orgasm-less session because I’d found something new,more pleasure than before,or it lasted longer,a different contraction sequence made something feel different etc.I was always quite positive. Many posts were from despondent men caught in a cycle of session and disappointment,which is a killer of a mind set.
08/01/2022 9:49 am
If you just put your index finger resting on your arm (fleshy area) for a few seconds, you will feel the touch and a slight pressure on the skin. When we insert the aneros and it lies down (involves / touches) our prostate, the sensation is similar. An initial light (very light) pressure involving the anal canal and prostate this pressure will be almost unconscious and within minutes it will turn into a pleasurable pressure. That feeling was there from the start. Why didn't I identify?
Interesting. Could you please elaborate the first sentence above? I.e. just how to insert finger inside?
I've attempted to insert my finger inside me before, but always could not get my wrist and arm to spin to the correct place. The nail of my index or middle finger was always facing towards my prostate, but I really need to have the soft part of the finger facing the prostate. I don't know if my torso is too long or my arms too short or no flexibility there in my arms, but can never insert in the way that I want it. Hence why I hope the Aneros will eventually do something.
Is the other takeway then that light pressure is better than harder?
08/01/2022 10:03 am
Many posts were from despondent men caught in a cycle of session and disappointment,which is a killer of a mind set.
True. But there's no way to escape that unless one just goes away towards solitude and meditates and keeps practicing - which is exactly why I don't come to these forums that much anymore. Too much noise in the forums with everyone getting success after a few weeks, saying how easy it is and "just let go of expectations" and similar, as if we haven't tried that already.
How can one have faith like you, "But I come back to psyche. I believed in that shit down to my very bones,that’s probably why it worked.", so that it works, when all attempts over such a long time have failed.
When one is faithless, it's next to impossible to attain faith. One must reach out for something better than faith, because the mind has already learnt (whether right or wrong) that faith is fake.
I have read the wiki pages (years ago), on a scientific level I understand that it could / would work, and that nerve endings go there near and through the prostate, and that the brain is neuroplastic. Personal evidence seems to suggest otherwise, which then makes one think about medical issues (hormones, small prostate, thicker wall, obesity, diabetes etc), or wrong technique, or wrong toys, that might possibly affect success.
08/01/2022 10:48 am
When one is faithless, it's next to impossible to attain faith. One must reach out for something better than faith, because the mind has already learnt (whether right or wrong) that faith is fake.
I have read the wiki pages (years ago), on a scientific level I understand that it could / would work, and that nerve endings go there near and through the prostate, and that the brain is neuroplastic. Personal evidence seems to suggest otherwise, which then makes one think about medical issues (hormones, small prostate, thicker wall, obesity, diabetes etc), or wrong technique, or wrong toys, that might possibly affect success.
If faith won't do, then approach it with the scientific method, or at least make up something that you can use as a base. If for example you think visceral fat weight down on your abdomen and makes belly breathing difficult, then it would make sense to have sessions on all fours, and see if this changes anything. This does not need to be 100% anatomically true, you just need to start with a framework that makes sense to you, then from there you can explore things further.
Personally I feel like it's more of a focus thing and learning to pick up new sensations, rather than neuroplasticity, but they might well both be the same. You can achieve S-Os without any anatomy knowledge and without knowing about neuroplasticity in the first place, it's easier to work with less knowledge than with too much...
08/01/2022 1:21 pm
When one is faithless, it's next to impossible to attain faith.
Nothings impossible. There’s bro’s on here spent years on this,10 years,and cracked it eventually.
08/01/2022 5:12 pm
When one is faithless, it's next to impossible to attain faith. One must reach out for something better than faith, because the mind has already learnt (whether right or wrong) that faith is fake.
What is faith? It is a belief in something that can't be proven through objective, rational processes, it is a state of mind which relies upon subjective, intuitive, subconscious feelings to support it. Now what happens when you substitute the word belief for faith in your above statement? Do you believe in yourself? Do you believe these sensations are possible for you? What you believe to be true becomes your truth, your truth becomes your reality. When you change your beliefs your reality changes. The Aneros journey is to a certain extent about changing some fundamental beliefs about aspects of yourself, it is a mind game extraordinaire.
While reading everything there is to know about the physical mechanisms, the techniques, the different models, etc. to reach these prostate orgasms, the bottom line is, if you don't believe it will work for you then it won't.
Good Vibes to You!
08/01/2022 11:36 pm
What is faith?
Faith is a belief in something not yet seen or manifest. So belief and faith are somewhat interchangable. I can't count how many times I've read in these forums of guys who couldn't believe what just happened to them after an exp. of some sort. I'm not convinced that faith is part of the equation initially. Although it does become a factor after a n exp. of some sort, and not neccesarily a super o.My faith builds and wanes as I progress on the journey
08/02/2022 4:31 am
I think faith is particularly important in the beginning, especially when nothing much happens the first month. Faith was what drove me to keep practicing and exploring this claim of mmo and the super o.
08/02/2022 8:36 am
have sessions on all fours, and see if this changes anything.
Great idea! Will try that 🙂
Do you believe in yourself? Do you believe these sensations are possible for you? What you believe to be true becomes your truth, your truth becomes your reality. When you change your beliefs your reality changes. The Aneros journey is to a certain extent about changing some fundamental beliefs about aspects of yourself, it is a mind game extraordinaire.
While reading everything there is to know about the physical mechanisms, the techniques, the different models, etc. to reach these prostate orgasms, the bottom line is, if you don't believe it will work for you then it won't.
I don't truly believe in myself. This came up during one of those Alpha courses I attended last year (Evangelical Christian thing), and I no doubt annoyed everyone there because of my lack of belief. Is there no way to shortcut the process? There's nothing fundamentally about having traditional orgasms that requires my belief in them. Why should prostate orgasms require faith?
I'm not convinced that faith is part of the equation initially.
I think I agree. Note that I'm using the meaning "belief" rather than "religious faith".
I believed in that shit down to my very bones,that’s probably why it worked.
That's the part that makes me sigh and think it's unattainable for so many. I can understand how at the start of the journey, one can be so excited that they believe in this. But after a long time of no progress, how can one remain a believer when everything tells them that it's not possible. Is this belief absolutely necessary?
08/02/2022 9:38 am
But after a long time of no progress, how can one remain a believer when everything tells them that it's not possible. Is this belief absolutely necessary?
Then why keep going? Constant negative thoughts only serve to compound your issues.
08/02/2022 10:28 am
But after a long time of no progress, how can one remain a believer when everything tells them that it's not possible. Is this belief absolutely necessary?
Then why keep going? Constant negative thoughts only serve to compound your issues.
You didn't answer the question. We need another reason other that just belief.
Are you trying to dissuade me (your message above), or persuade me (your homework post), to keep going?
We have hope, even if we don't have the belief that it will work. That's why we bought the toys, that's why we joined this community, that's why we keep trying. And there's something masculine about trying and trying until eventually we have success.
If it's just me, I can just go into exile again and keep trying alone with no guidance and keep getting muddled up and confused. But it's not just me. There are other men out there that struggle like me, we all need support.
08/02/2022 10:38 am
But after a long time of no progress, how can one remain a believer when everything tells them that it's not possible. Is this belief absolutely necessary?
Then why keep going? Constant negative thoughts only serve to compound your issues.
Are you trying to dissuade me (your message above), or persuade me (your homework post), to keep going?
Apologies, that sentence above could be considered accusatory, not my intention to make it sound like that.
08/02/2022 10:48 am
You didn't answer the question. We need another reason other that just belief.
attainment of Pleasure,multiple orgasm and the super o are the reasons.
Are you trying to dissuade me (your message above), or persuade me (your homework post), to keep going?
You misunderstood the meaning. You need to try for a more positive mindet,if you won’t,what’s keeping you from giving up?
If it's just me, I can just go into exile again and keep trying alone with no guidance and keep getting muddled up and confused. But it's not just me. There are other men out there that struggle like me, we all need support.
Exile or stay,only you can choose that. The homework post might help anyone struggling but I wrote it just for you. It’s the definition of support. Do it for a month,ask questions during,try to keep an open mind and maybe you’ll discover a path to onwards and upwards.
08/02/2022 2:39 pm
When one is faithless, it's next to impossible to attain faith.
Nothings impossible. There’s bro’s on here spent years on this,10 years,and cracked it eventually.
This is me! I had success initially very quickly with a super-o that that left me stunned. Then....well over 10 years of nothing. I even gave up for quite a while, getting back into it thanks to a covid layoff (the only positive aspect of covid but I digress.) I have achieved success again recently with the use of microdose THC which I am slowly decreasing so I can achieve success sober. I don't know what really has kept me going all these years really but I'm really happy that I stuck with it! I will soon be including my wife in the practice and I hope that propells me to new heights.
08/02/2022 3:28 pm
Love it mate. Pure positivity!
08/02/2022 3:53 pm
@lonewolf8 Do you get aroused? Like ever? What do you do in a session? Fantasise? Watch porn? Beats?
08/02/2022 4:01 pm
@lonewolf8 Do you get aroused? Like ever? What do you do in a session? Fantasise? Watch porn? Beats?
I watch porn or just quietly use aneros without almost like a meditation session. I'm having a crisis of myself now thinking about whether I get aroused, I'm not sure I do now I'm scared and worried. I think a medical issue is to blame and I feel like utter crap now, I just need to keep going maybe.
08/02/2022 4:13 pm
I ain't touching THC! Not legal where I am.
Could it be that my arousal is too low? What can I do to increase it? I already abstain for about a week at a time.
Totally understandable, it's not for everyone. I recently started using it because it became legal in Arizona and my wife is all on board with it. Apart from my weekly session I don't touch it.
08/02/2022 4:17 pm
@lonewolf8 Do you get aroused? Like ever? What do you do in a session? Fantasise? Watch porn? Beats?
I watch porn or just quietly use aneros without almost like a meditation session. I'm having a crisis of myself now thinking about whether I get aroused, I'm not sure I do now I'm scared and worried. I think a medical issue is to blame and I feel like utter crap now, I just need to keep going maybe.
I'm in the same boat as you arousal wise. I have to work really hard to mentally get aroused. Lately a fine ass Latina at work has been providing fuel though, haha!
08/02/2022 4:22 pm
Before you panic, I'd say that if you can achieve a solid erection, you're probably fine. Even then, we know that an erection is not mandatory to achieve S-Os, but to me it's a good indicator of arousal. Obviously this is not medical advice etc etc. On the other hand, if you have absolutely zero libido then it's going to make achieving S-Os a lot more difficult, at this point seeing a doctor would make sense.
08/02/2022 4:24 pm
@lonewolf8 ok,then just watch your porn and do your homework. You don’t have a medical condition unless the doc says you do. You think too much,probably anxiously. That’s why the homework is simple. You don’t need to be trying to cover too much stuff and getting overwhelmed. The homework is more than capable of generating an orgasm.
08/02/2022 4:26 pm
@reddog152 You Americans are lucky sons a bitches being surrounded by latinas. Dark hair,dark eyes and big ‘ol asses…Dayum!!! 😉
08/02/2022 4:52 pm
@reddog152 You Americans are lucky sons a bitches being surrounded by latinas. Dark hair,dark eyes and big ‘ol asses…Dayum!!! 😉
Oh damn, don't get me started! Haha
This one fits that bill and is really short and petite. She wears what amounts to yoga pants at work and I can't help but look at her crotch and ass and perfect little tits. I'll be right back, I might have to rub one out...LOL
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