This turned into a lengthy post, but I felt I had to express everything going on inside of me. I though the aneros journey would be a journey of sexual pleasure, but it has turned into a spiritual journey filled with fear, anxiety and some joy. This post is definitely geared towards those who embrace the spiritual, but not limited to.
My search after a more fulfilling kind of sexual pleasure began in my late teens as I noticed I didn't feel particularly well after a traditional orgasm. The experience was over very quickly and all those good feelings and sexual excitement was replaced by guilt and anxiety immediately after ejaculation. For me, ejaculation is like diving from the top of a high mountain into a deep valley, the contrast becomes very apparent, I'm sure you've all felt that prolactin surge.
I stumbled upon prostate stimulation and super orgasm, and it sounded almost too good to be true. After a year of on and off practice, I experienced "something" at least... not sure what it was but my hands began to tingle, I lost control of my body and began spasming. Pure bliss mixed with pure terror. I completely lost control of my body and the only thought that was flowing through my mind was "What have I done?!" It took me around 15 minutes to recoup from the experience and I've never had another prostate orgasm (or whatever that was) since, and I think it's because of fear. Fear of loosing control again. Fear of messing with the prostate. Fear of the unknown.
I know this may sound weird to a lot of folks out there who don't associate prostate play with anxiety the way I do, but for me the anxiety is real and something I'm battling every time I try to enjoy and explore my sexuality. I feel shame and guilt because of this voice in my head saying "you shouldn't be doing this"... "this isn't normal" etc. Most of my aneros sessions ends with a mild panic attack and a tremendous feeling of shame, dumped over me like a bucket of cold water.
But as of late, I've grown SO tired of letting fear be in control of my life. I am freaking tired of that voice inside my head telling me what I can and cannot do. So, I've decided to get back into prostate play cause traditional ejaculatory masturbation makes me feel bad anyway... so I don't feel I have much to loose. I've made some good progress lately and I managed to control my fear to the degree were I actually started enjoying prostate massage again. I still experience the shame afterwards and these occasional mild panic attacks, but I'm making progress!
Recently I stumbled upon another forum thread titled 'Prostate Cradle Warning' in which they mentioned the dangers of super orgasm and kundalini awakening. A quote from the thread:
A tingling sensation may continue long after the massage leading to a constant orgasmic experience. Ancient texts refer to this as Kundalini energy rising/awakening; filling the vessel with light; and riding the tiger or serpent. The idea is to maintain control, or it will control you! This is one of the main cautions in Tantra: Don’t over do it.
I started to read about kundalini awakening which introduced me to something called "kundalini crisis" which is basically when someone experiences a kundalini awakening "prematurely", in other words: not prepared. Here's another quote about kundalini crisis from another website:
The side affect of raising Kundalini is physical pain from excessive energy and blockages in our chakras from past emotional pain. Managing this pain is a big part of surviving Kundalini. I recommend that prior to raising your Kundalini is to do some emotional healing work, spiritual work, or psychological therapy work. Beware of what you are about to unleash within you! You cannot fully prepare for what you will face with raising your Kundalini, because each person’s experience is different. Understand that once you raise it, it is irreversible!
The most important part of Kundalini is to accepting the process, and surrender to whatever will come. When you fight it, you will experience terrible fear, anxiety, and sometimes, emotional and mental breakdown. Many talk about being unable to function, work, or attend school.
And another from this site (from the comment section):
It’s very dangerous. Leads to kundalini awakening and kundalini syndrome and poses spiritual threat. You’ve been warned. Don’t even try it or you may regret it bitterly.
There are a LOT of people warning others about the dangers of kundalini awakening, try google it. This new understanding of the power of the super orgasm has of course put a spanner in the works for me. Has anyone here on this forum encountered it? If so, how did you deal with it?
I understand not everyone here is involved in the spiritual, but if you are, I'd love to hear your take on this! I'm sure this kundalini awakening could be put into more scientific terms, but I'm not sure how, nevertheless, this effect of super orgasm and prostate play appears to be real, whether you're spiritually inclined or not, it seems to be massively powerful.
Thanks//
@JoeCrix84 I don't know much about kundalini energy but I believe I had a brief encounter with it a couple of years ago when I first learned about binaural beats and started listening. Don't remember much about it now but I knew it wasn't for me. So I avoid it altogether now.
Dear @JoeCrix84,
Thank you for sharing, I guess that was not easy.
Has anyone here on this forum encountered it? If so, how did you deal with it?
@smudgefish has some insight regarding the kundalini syndrome. Maybe he can help.
I personally see kundalini rather as a visualization-tool than a "real thing" and never encountered any problems. But my journey was pretty long (~5 years), so my nervous system had plenty of time to acclimatize. What I've read about the topic is, that you should open the chakras first, so that the kundalini is able to pass them. There exist some (kundalini-)yoga practices especially for that. You may look them up.
Imho, you already got the most important point: you have to tackle your shame and guilt which is holding you back emotionally. Consider professional help - life is to short to wait for things sorting themselves out alone.
To let go and surrender is a vital part of anerosing and you won't be able to do this until you clear and heal your soul from what happend to you in the past.
Sincerely, Unfug
I'm much the same way and have had some small experience with this. The first time was with solo penis masturbation and trying to learn how to separate ejaculation from orgasm. I was having some success and even notices that I would sometimes "feel" like my body was filling with an energy, almost like electricity not sure how to describe it but it felt good so I kept at it. Had a few penis multiple O's but I had LOOOOTTS!! of room for improvement still so I kept practicing. Then the energy began to get VERY intense, and would sometimes begin filling my body without overt sexual stimulation, like when talking to a woman or riding my bike on a really nice day, it was all very enjoyable.
After the O's when I had the energy the feeling of inner peace and well being was like nothing I had experienced before!!! Then for unrelated reasons my life got all chaotic and and I found my self living very unhealthily, physically, emotionally, financially I was a bit of a mess. After a couple months of this chaos I decided to try my "multi O's" again cause I really wanted to feel good for a while... It worked but it was also a HUGE shock spiritually, I didn't suffer any negative effects but it REALLY planted a firm respect for what I was doing in my heart! sounds cheesy but it's true. I knew that if I was to continue what I was doing it would have to be when I was in a much better place spiritually and I felt fear that if I continued before then that I would regret it, didn't know why but it was like I just "knew".
I think I came VERY close to what you described as " kundalini syndrome " though at the time I had no idea what it was.
I have noticed the energy with my Aneros but it's something I seem to be able to choose to "avoid" or prevent from being anything but very minor, which I plan on doing until I am spiritually ready for the experience and know more of what I'm involved in. My experience with this was the most intense feeling of intimacy I have ever experienced and it was with my self and I know that if I continued unprepared I would cause harm to my self in a way I would regret for a very long time.
So yeah I know this sounds like a TON of cheese but honestly this was my experience. also please forgive my writing I'm dyslexic.
Hi @JoeCrix84 ,
Yes, it's real. There were several people on this forum including myself who underwent a Kundalini Syndrome about 2 years ago (I think it was May 2015 ish). If you search you will probably find all the posts. It is very rare but certainly overuse of the aneros can lead to this and I think that some people are more prone to it than others.
For me it's been life changing and I would say that the process is ongoing. The actual syndrome lasted about a week but it changes you and the process goes on. I have spent a fortune on therapy since because it forces you to look at everything that is wrong with your life and face your problems. All sounds a bit dramatic but that is what has happened and I'm still living with it. I don't think I'm anywhere near the end yet I still have a long way to go.
Mine happened after a mega orgasm. The actual syndrome is frightening the energy surges were something else, but also fascinating and it's a week of my life I will never forget when I saw and experienced some weird things. I had never known anything about spirituality before it happened but it sent me on a quest to find out exactly what had happened to me, and I'm not sure even now that I really understand it properly. I joined a Buddhist group (didn't last it wasn't for me and didn't give me answers), started meditating, devoured books on spirituality, became interested in lucid dreaming astral projection, became a Reiki Master and other things. None of any of this gave me the answers I wanted. I realised that what I needed was to get to know myself and now I'm in therapy and that goes on.
It's a fascinating topic I could write for hours about it and everything I have learnt, but I have to go to work now. If you have any questions please ask me.
I would say that I believe that if you have significant issues from childhood then you are more at risk of Kundalini Syndrome, I'm not sure why perhaps it's the body's way of saying 'this is something big that you need to work on' and forcing you to look at the issues. Personally I have some serious issues with my parents and went through horrendous bullying at school, with all the ongoing psychological damage that causes.
Tim.
I found a site with a therapist specialised in Kundalini syndrom, if it can help you (thank you google) ...
http://www.taraspringett.com/kundalini/kundalini-syndrome/
Hi @JoeCrix84 ,
Yes, it's real. There were several people on this forum including myself who underwent a Kundalini Syndrome about 2 years ago (I think it was May 2015 ish). If you search you will probably find all the posts. It is very rare but certainly overuse of the aneros can lead to this and I think that some people are more prone to it than others.
For me it's been life changing and I would say that the process is ongoing. The actual syndrome lasted about a week but it changes you and the process goes on. I have spent a fortune on therapy since because it forces you to look at everything that is wrong with your life and face your problems. All sounds a bit dramatic but that is what has happened and I'm still living with it. I don't think I'm anywhere near the end yet I still have a long way to go.Mine happened after a mega orgasm. The actual syndrome is frightening the energy surges were something else, but also fascinating and it's a week of my life I will never forget when I saw and experienced some weird things. I had never known anything about spirituality before it happened but it sent me on a quest to find out exactly what had happened to me, and I'm not sure even now that I really understand it properly. I joined a Buddhist group (didn't last it wasn't for me and didn't give me answers), started meditating, devoured books on spirituality, became interested in lucid dreaming astral projection, became a Reiki Master and other things. None of any of this gave me the answers I wanted. I realised that what I needed was to get to know myself and now I'm in therapy and that goes on.
It's a fascinating topic I could write for hours about it and everything I have learnt, but I have to go to work now. If you have any questions please ask me.
I would say that I believe that if you have significant issues from childhood then you are more at risk of Kundalini Syndrome, I'm not sure why perhaps it's the body's way of saying 'this is something big that you need to work on' and forcing you to look at the issues. Personally I have some serious issues with my parents and went through horrendous bullying at school, with all the ongoing psychological damage that causes.
Tim.
Curious how long had you been having sessions before experiencing Kundalini Syndrome? How frequently did you have sessions?
I had an awaking when I was 11 years old and I had another awaking at 55. Crisis, syndrome,awaking, is the same word for the same thing. Mine was intense, filled with the unexpected and lasted less then 2 weeks and I am glad it was over. This is all part of the journey so just go with it.
[USER="54633"]busdrvr[/USER] I had only been using the aneros for about a week once a day. Never had intense orgasms like that since. Not sure I understand why it happened or how it shut me down so much, I remember discussing on here how much I missed that type of orgasm it was like withdrawing from a drug - actually very painful, and an emotionally very intense time for me, perhaps more so than I ever admitted on here.
@brucemarkland 'intense' is the word! I have always thought of mine as an 'awakening' but there is a massive difference between a full Kundalini awakening and a Kundalini crisis, driven by the same force but a crisis is where it essentially all goes wrong and doesn't progress to a full awakening because of blockages, so you are left with partially progressed Kundalini energy raging around the body causing whatever symptoms it wants to cause ranging from simple discomfort to psychosis. For me it was an awakening in that it made me aware that there is another reality other than this life, but I certainly didn't become fully spiritually awoken. Everyone's experience of this is different. I'm sure you know more about this than I do. There is nothing you can do but go with it, and yes it is certainly the start of a journey.
Edit: this got me thinking, and remembering. The aneros for me really was like a drug to start with. I found that my orgasms were so good that I quite literally thought I had found the Holy Grail - I had orgasms through my whole body, I lay there feeling cocooned in warm orgasmic bliss, and I really thought that I could check out of real life because it didn't matter any more, I had everything I needed with my new ability to orgasm. Nothing mattered if I could rely on putting myself into a state of total and utter bliss at will. Perhaps that is why I had a Kundalini Syndrome and perhaps why it had to stop, and why I went into a state of withdrawal for months after.
Thank you @smudgefish and @brucemarkland for sharing your experiences! I appreciate it a lot 🙂 I've dealt with depression and anxiety since I was 18, and I have to say I still am. But as I've grown older I've gotten better dealing with it. Sometimes it rains and sometimes sun shines, you're the sky and all you can do is embrace. One year ago I had my first panic attack... I honestly thought I were about to die, my way of looking at things suddenly shifted in a heart beat. I've never understood how people could do such a thing as take their own life, but now I understood and it's not something I could explain in words.
In some way, I fear a kundalini awakening would be something like an intense version of a panic attack... Am I right? Or what's it like?
I've already been sent out on a journey. In some mysterious way, depression showed me that there's a different reality than this one as you mentioned @smudgefish. I believe I was being showed a glimpse of what it means to be enlightened, which confused me more than gave any answers. At first glance, people wouldn't consider me a spiritual being, but I am. I feel the universe is trying to show me this other reality and the one thing standing in between me and whatever lies beyond the horizon, is fear. Fear of the unknown. But now I guess I have no choice but to find out.