Cannabis / weed question

I imagine asking the clerk what the best bud for prostate orgasms is won’t work?

Jk... Unfortunately I don’t think there is correct answer to your problem except the one you will find by experimenting with many different products. There is so much variation from one product to another, and even within a product from harvest to harvest and batch to batch you will have trouble with consistency. And then there is the variable of your mind and how it reacts to different compounds relative to other people’s minds.

Read this to better understand the complexities involved:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/magazine/cannabis-science.html

Maybe someone here will have the key but I imagine you are just as well off with trying different products until you find one you like, and then buying up a lifetime supply before it doesn’t exist anymore...

@divine_o thanks.

yeah, i was afraid that (expensive) route might be the only way forward.

for now i purchased a pure THC tincture.  will report back in a couple of days.

darwin

Vaping is always better for me. Tinctures don't get me buzzed the same way, it's not as good. The ritual of vaping is part of pleasure. I love languidly vaping and watching some good porn. Then retreating to the bedroom to relax with the aneros. Tinctures never put me in that mindset.

yes, it is frustrating.  i'm finding similar.  i upped the sublingual tincture dose, and still didn't really ramp up into cum-land last night.

it doesn't make sense.  their both going through a similar pathway, which is direct absorption into the blood stream.

will try a slightly higher dose next time.

i like the tincture because it is super discrete.

When it comes to weed, I generally find Sativas will give you more of a head-high, whereas Indicas will give you more of a body-high. Your mileage may vary - it goes without saying - but I would suggest trying a strain with more of an Indica lineage.

@mattc

From the article I posted above:

“The company, which was founded in 2013, was named for the two main varieties of cannabis: indica and sativa. Before budtenders and black-market dealers knew anything about terpenes, they told their customers that indica strains were sedating and sativa strains euphoric. But scientists have shown that while indica plants tend to be short and bushy and quicker to mature and sativas tall and spiky and slower, those differences do not correspond to any kind of consistent differences in the chemical profiles of the plants.”

I've had a lot of success over the years smoking and/or vaping before and during sessions.  I've had success recently with the blueberry muffin strain which is an indica dominant hybrid.  Some research about it on leafly and weedmaps described it as relaxing and arousing which is very true for me but your mileage may vary.  If I'm in the mood and smoke a couple bowls in anticipation of an aneros session I am extremely ready to go.  My last session with this strain was about 90 mins or so with p-waves and mini-os about 40 minutes in and 6 or 7 dry-os over the last 30 minutes of the session.  Was an amazing session and I'm looking forward to see what comes next session.  

Based on last night's experiment I am now thinking maybe the problem is that tincture has a delayed onset.

I was under the (mis-?)impression that inhale and sublingual were gonna have the same uptake profile, because both go directly into the blood stream (either through capillaries in the lungs or through that sublingual artery.)

Last night's experience casts doubt on that.  When I inhale I almost immediately feel waves of lustful horniness.  My body becomes very sensual, porn becomes deliciously enticing, my genitals/ass start getting all excited, and I'm clearly "high."

Figuring that maybe my problem with tincture was dosing, I gave myself a succession of drops under my tongue.  In the end it was probably about .5 ml total.  It did help, and i had my best tincture session.  In fact it was really great!  

BUT... after I was done, I was wired, and had protracted trouble falling asleep.  I don't remember exactly, but at one point i was seeing visual patterns... always a sign that I have overdone the dosing.  I really really don't like session/pot induced insomnia.  I firmly believe in a good sleep, and in investing in my tomorrow. 

THEN... sometime later, after I had finally drifted off I woke up again in a wired very horny state, with visuals, etc.  It felt like the dosing had kicked in more, maybe even a couple of hours after the drops, and, after trying to tame the lust with ejac #2 of the night, rather than just conking out, I tossed and turned for a great long time.  Did I say it already?  I hate insomnia.

Sadly this does not bode well for tincture.  What I desire in weed is immediate onset, and then being normal after an hour and a half, so I can drop off to a post-session deep sleep.

It's too bad because I liked the scent-free aspect of tincture.

darwin

@darwin

this?

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/mothernatureandyou.org/2015/09/22/cannabis-oil-is-the-posterior-superior-analrectal-application/amp/

@darwin If you're not opposed to it...I'd look into vaping.  I have an airizer air 2 which I can hit a few times before and during a session and feel the effects almost immediately depending on the strain.

I reverted to my prior practice of inhale (vape pen). 

The results were obvious:  two tokes on the vape pen produced the full, desperately lustful, cum-like-crazy weed experience that, so far, the tinctures have not easily given.

Too bad.  Tincture is more discreet.

Darwin

It definitely elevates and accelerates my sessions; leading to pure ecstasy. 

I would love to try sum o dat, but I could get bounced from my job, where they do random pee tests. I have not had a test since I started 10 years ago, so it would be just my luck if I got high and then was called in the next day. 

I need to time it when I’ll be out for a week or something. 

@roland-htg go gattaca (use someone else’s pee)

Darwin,  thank-you for this post, and soo many others.  You're posts always enlighten and teach.

I hope you will continue to experiment and test tinctures.  I soon will be free of random employer testing, and my state is very open to cannabis use.  With COPD issues, inhalation is risky, so I am looking forward to trying tinctures with my Aneros sessions.

Your experiences would be very helpful to our community's members.

Thanks again for all the time and thoughts you have generously shared with us.

Cheers

Here is a follow up report on cannabis + aneros.

tldr:  I bought a Sour Diesel cartridge and it blew me away.

First, unfortunately, @p38, I am gonna leave to you (or others) the careful experimentation with tinctures.  My preference for tinctures over vaping is (1) more discreet and (2) possibly safer (for lungs).  But after a few tries without great success (as described earlier in this thread), and excellent new experiences with vaping, I'm gonna stick with vape for now, and wait till somebody else decodes the best way to use tincture with Aneros.

Second, following is the update on vaping. 

I have been vaping for years.  For buds I use the Vapor Genie vaporizer (an excellent product). And over the last 1.5 years, a vape cartridge + battery.  I have had great success with these.  Because I only use light dosing (1-3 tokes), and use these products only for my sessions, ie, at most a few times a week, small amounts last an absurdly long time.  One small pill bottle full of bud, and one cartridge, have lasted me 2+ years.

Since the cartridge I've had is finally getting near done, I went to a dispensary and got a new cartridge.  I had researched "THC and orgasm" and learned that (1) THC has been carefully documented as an aphrodisiac (duh) (while CBD has not) and (2) rumors on the web have it that the Sour Diesel strain is the best for sex.

Mind you, I am skeptical about many claims to do with cannabis, including that a particular strain would have distinctive effects for sex.  I am also skeptical in general about the marketing of THC products.  For example, when various manufacturers claim that their product is a certain strain, how much credence can we put in that?  There is no regulation, so who knows.

But, my local dispensary had a Sour Diesel cartridge made by Calypso, 73% THC.  I bought it ($50).

I've now used it two times. 

The first time I did a 2-3 second draw and OMG got walloped with the biggest toke I think I've ever taken.   Off I was to "excess dosing land" unfortunately.  Sure enough I was very high, seeing visual patterns, and energized in a way I knew would interfere with sleep.

BUT... the session was really really good.  I couldn't tell if it was the dosing or the Sour Diesel, but I was quickly turned into a sexual frenzy of self-love and beyond.  (I'm talking about things like tearing off my clothes and massaging and fondling every part of my body)

The second time (last night) I was more careful with the dosing.  But... again... I overdid it.  Not as bad as the first time, but still had visuals and was too wired.

AND... last night's session was profoundly the best of my life.  The initial effect was I found myself doing a kind of sinuous stripper dance.  Then I settled down, and focused on calmly and relaxedly enjoying the many feelings i had.  I remained totally calm and suddenly some lusciously sexy idea would come to mind (like using my hands to squeeze and sexually shake my ass cheeks, or spreading my legs in a sexy way, whatever), and I'd be off to a Super-O.  This happened countless times over a few hours... I was profoundly in Super-O land, until i finally fell asleep.

If you know my posts (some thousands of them) you'll notice that never before have I mentioned having a Super-O.  I've had countless dry orgasms of a million different flavors and intensity, but only rarely do they rise to full body.  Last night I had tons of them.

I don't know if it was the excess dosing or the Sour Diesel.  I hope to do a light dose soon to try to find out.  It seems possible that this Sour Diesel cartridge is the real deal when it comes to a sexual accelerator.

EDIT:

By the way, on topic of vape dosing.  I only have experience with two cartridges.

With my first cartridge, when I took a draw there would be a kind of crackling sound (oil bubbling?).  I knew that after a couple of small crackles and one bigger one, I'd have a proper toke.

To make my goods last I hold in the vapor for probably 15+ seconds, getting the most out of each toke.

With the new Sour Diesel cart there was no crackling, so i had no feedback.  That's why I overdid the dosing.

So I guess I have to count seconds in my head when I draw on the new cart, to try to standardize my toke at, say 2 seconds of draw.  I really need to be careful next time to get just the right dose.

darwin

@darwin

Totally. Awesome.

A lot of my sessions with pot are like that, where inhibitions go comepletely out the window and I am worked in a sort of third person frenzy, as if I were making love to someone else and that someone else were myself. 

but like you I hate overdosing, and for me an overdose is just slightly over a low threshold. Any more, paranoia and sleep disturbances occur. Even during the session, in the throes of passion, paranoia can seep in. Fortunately I have plenty of solo sessions with that third person frenzy sensation (my favorite sensation, which brings on very strong orgasms) without the help of pot, but with pot it is almost a guarantee. As a result I only smoke once every couple months, if even. 

Perhaps if I could get a reliable lower high with a device or tincture I would do it more often. But given the legality in my country, I am stuck with varying quality products from street dealers, often in the form of hash, which is very hard to consistently dose, and then is used up and I have to start over.

Anyways, congrats on your new find, and I will get some sour diesel next time I am in a place where pot is legal.

@darwin

I don't normally participate in the cannabis threads, but wanted to say that this is fascinating information and very complete for whoever wants to follow in your footsteps. This will surely help people avoid a lot of trial and errors and it's great that you're documenting everything. Oh and congrats on your amazing session ! 

-- Just as a quick note, I don't want to glamorize or condemn the use of mind-altering substances. (The Aneros itself is mind-altering) Please be aware of legal ordinances where you are, listen to your body, practice safety during use, and don't forget to drink some water. --

I found Sour Diesel in the bud/flower form at a local dispensary nearby the day before my Aneros shipment was scheduled to be delivered to my home. While I'm not much of a cannabis user, of course I wanted to augment the experience and fully dive headfirst into pleasure. Having smoked this strain many years ago in my earlier 20s, I knew it was a fun one that would get me pumped for adventure yet also give a relaxing mindset -- using it during a sessions probably wouldn't make it worse. For all the sessions I had over the first week of owning the Aneros I would take around 3 medium puffs of cannabis from a small cigarette-looking pipe. (commonly referred to as a one hitter)

Nearly all sessions described here are under the influence. Half the time I smoked up prior to starting the session, the other half I broke up my puffs between pee breaks (all my sessions have been around or over 3 hours), and once I only smoked during the second half of my session.

While I didn't get to the Super-O during my first session, I think the cannabis amplified the nervous system sensations and waves of pleasure. My body kinda felt warm and washed in gentle, tingling waters and it was very enjoyable. Following the manufacturer's instructions for the device furthered and increased the sensations given by the Aneros.

After leaving a buffer day, I return back to the Aneros for my second session. On that buffer day I scoured the Forums for tips and advice. Many of these posts were spread out over more than a decade, and it would be difficult to list out every topic but the following tips stuck with me:

- Don't force it period. It's like getting a cat to come to you and let you pet it -- there's very little you can actually do aside from being calm and being receptive and grateful to whatever happens. Even people who have experienced a Super-O may not always get one every session.

- Embody/"be" your prostate and focus on the sensations you're receiving instead of the techniques used to generate those sensations; forcing certain techniques/actions learned from others Captain's Logs (what should be the term for anerosession journals) or of online videos showing a guy experiencing a prostate orgasm can be a huge distraction and lead to expectations, which are bad because...

- While anerosession videos online and Captain's Logs here are what got me turned on and interested in prostate pleasure, it can set up unhealthy expectations -- never mind the fact that every man's orgasm (and path to it) is different, even mine to yours! Take this post of mine with several grains of salt. This is your orgasm, so focus on you and what you're feeling.

Following these tips and more I was able to experience two mini-o's in my session and feel a LOT of pleasure. Despite being under the influence, I was still hitting mental blocks keeping me from fully diving into my orgasm. THIS TIME however I was able to see what was holding me back clearly:

Have you ever done a trust fall with a big group of people? Jumped out of an airplane on a skydive? Ridden a rollercoaster? I've done all these things, and in experiencing these things I've felt the fear of the unknown; not being in control, mentally freeze/physical tension/tensing up muscles through bracing myself before the big drop (anticipated or actual) to protect me... somehow; anxiety knowing that gravity will pull on my gut when I plunge; scared thinking I'm going to be hurt by forces in and/or out of my control. In a word: VULNERABILITY.

Nobody likes vulnerability, those "gut feelings" -- they've served evolutionary and societal purpose in protecting us from harm/death. We as individuals experience them in the modern age in a variety of settings and emotions, like I've shared of mine above. Jumping out an airplane would damn well make a cognizant person feeling VERY vulnerable, but how else does this vulnerability manifest in far subtler ways? Romantic encounters, performance anxiety, body consciousness/acceptance, the feelings held around self-worth in its many facets, just to list a few that could apply to prostate orgasms.

I noted these things in my anerosession journal (then a scrap piece of paper with the jumbo lead concept scribbled down) and have reflected on them throughout the past week.

On my third session, I took these things with me mentally as I had my Helix Trident in me and laid down on my yoga mat. There I got back to the place I was at in my second session, after the mini-o and right before the moment I'd mentally block, where I would brace myself and freeze/seize. I vocalized and mentally spoke a mantra that formed on the spot: I Accept. That acceptance statement was faceted and contained accepting myself and my orgasm.That broke me through the similarly multifaceted being of vulnerability as I described above. Immediately I got swept and accelerated into my first Super Orgasm. A rush of energy and light completely enveloped me. I totally lost my plane in reality, somewhat aware but accepting that now I'm breathing fast and moaning with every outbreath and my whole body is shaking.

I have no idea how much time I spent riding that Super-O, but I'd have several later, much in the way one would describe "I had several [unplanned] drinks" after a really fun party where they gave up control and fell into the spirit of the event. I don't think I finished this session with ejaculation, I can't remember.

The next morning I woke up so fresh and was buzzing all over, with a positive energy I don't think I've ever felt before in my life. Incredibly important to note that normally after smoking some cannabis I can be a bit anxious/paranoid during use and then feel like a total slug mentally/physically for a whole day after. I didn't feel like that at all this time.

Part two of my cannaneros entry to come soon as I don't know how many characters a Forum post can contain.

@poseidon Super interesting, I'll wait until you're done with part 2 before commenting further. Just a heads up that I once pasted a 10 pages document in a forum post and it worked fine, pretty sure there is no limit. Kinda like the Super-O. And I'm stealing that Captain's log idea, what with "rough seas" and "calm seas" and all that stuff, it just fits too well. Only problem is that my journal is written more like a lab report and never mention walking the plank and/or scurvy, might have to adapt... Looking forward to the next entry! 

Alright, part 2! As a foreword, after my third session I start having my sessions back-to-back because prostate pleasure is very new to me and I love cumming this way. Moving on,

The next day comes after experiencing the Super-O and of course I'm completely energized by the Super-O and dammit, I'm gonna have another/I want to delve in even more. On the day of my Fourth session I spent some time scouring the Forum for all kinds of tips and tricks and advice to bring to my session and elevate it, aside from the cannabis. I remember a number of names from when I used to lurk here in the late 2000s, and many of those users had some great tips. I remember and liked @b-mayfield's advice and had success incorporating these bits on this day:

Here’s the key; pleasurable sensations trump all. If you learn to generate pleasurable sensations through anal, rectal, and abdominal contractions and rhythmic breathing and learn to magnify and center these sensations through mental focus, you will find the Super O.

Start with a set of 16 moderate contractions holding for about 10 - 12 seconds each. Inhale slowly into the lower abdomen (vibrating your diaphragm) while contracting, and exhaling with the release. When releasing these contractions be sure to come back to the base level contraction for about 4 seconds.

If you feel something building DON'T hammer it with a strong contraction. Instead approach it very gingerly with a slightly upgraded anal contraction for example. It’s almost like fishing; when you feel a nibble you don’t want to pull the hook out of the fish’s mouth before it’s really set. The same goes for the Super O. When you feel encouraging sensations, think more in terms of supporting them or bolstering them with some supportive contractions and rhythmic breathing. 

Once the evening comes around, I get naked, pee, anally prepped and lubed up, and get on my yoga mat (laying on my back, knees up with feet on the ground if I haven't clarified before) skipping one step -- smoking up. I wanted to feel the textures and everything of just experiencing the Aneros. After riding for about an hour and enjoying two powerful Super-Os using what I've learned before and the above advice from BF Mayfield, I take a pee break and smoke up.

That's when things get even more interesting.

As I get back on the mat and I'm starting to feel higher and higher, my mental imagery is starting to morph and take on a mind of it's own throughout the rest of my session. I'm getting really aroused at the thought of having experienced the Super-O, of us all celebrating in our esoteric knowledge every time we talk with each other to having a session -- like we're all acolytes to this shared truth. My mind is rocketing into that esoteric knowledge we know of pure energy and light, and my full body orgasm is like the fusing of the male experience and the female sexual response. The further escalation of my pleasure and orgasm is the energy of life itself, it being of creation and the active creation of life in a new human. Procreation. Rebirth. Everything.

The imagery and defined lines in my mind further become more abstract as my being is further accelerated into truth. I have zero idea where my body or senses are during this period, and I'm flying through air and space, propelling through the heaviest ocean torrents, and just gravitationally hurdling through spiraling endless open doors of knowledge. I think I was moaning and yelling several times. Still right now I don't give a crap what my neighbors are thinking if they can hear me at all. I wish I was having this session in an MRI machine documenting every single moment to know what synapses were firing, if easier which ones WEREN'T firing.

From here on all I can say is that I am so glad I discovered prostate pleasure and orgasms. And there's SO MUCH I want to learn more. For the sake of brevity I'm not going to give Captain's Logs for my fifth session onward. That said there's some points I want to wrap up with to get back on the topic of cannanerosessions and Sour Diesel:

--While I'm a bisexual man and am not totally new to butt stuff, I'm not experienced with it at all and was not really not the biggest fan of it before the Aneros. (despite the Aneros and prostate play being VERY DIFFERENT from anal play involving a sexual partner of any gender or a dildo, both of which I don't have and the latter I don't want) Cannabis and the whole John Stewart sketch from the movie Half Baked has some truth in it for those of us that may be "enhancement smokers", where being baked during an activity might make it more palatable or even ridiculously fun. I gotta say this helped check the box for me and mentally lube me up for anal/prostate play.

--Much like what @Darwin said, cannabis is useful in getting super aroused as well as amplifying any and all sensations. When these sensations are amplified, it seems easier to find and focus on the prostate. Those of us (not me) that have had prostatitus or a prostate exam, it may be easier to recognize when something is stimulating the prostate. Before this I have had relatively little contact back there. Reading through the forum and getting blazed up helped to identify what sensations were when the Aneros poked and prodded around.

--Accepting my orgasm (and myself, my pleasure, my right to these things, etc.) was a big step in unlocking the Super-O for me. While substances can help you be open and vulnerable with yourself, I am still in the ongoing process of therapy to just that. If you need substances to feel or access your emotions, analyse your mindset, etc. then PLEASE see a licensed mental health counselor/psychologist/etc. EVERYONE can benefit from therapy, even for self improvement and even if you don't think you need therapy -- prostate health/awareness/pleasure is absolutely overlooked but mental health is also something you should look into. Therapy can help identify what is under the hood, including things causing mental blocks during sessions. You can also be more vague or general about things if you don't want to implicitly say "I want to address some things that are getting in the way of pleasure in my life, including during prostate play". (Protip: if you don't feel comfortable talking about prostate pleasure with a doc/therapist, please find a new one.)

--Substances can intensify mental states and visualizations FAR beyond what you anticipate, and depending on who you are that could excite or terrify you. For me, there definitely was a fusing between carnal and spiritual, with white-hot pure energy melting the two together into one permanent alloy of humanity. Sessions after my fourth also came back to these reoccuring visualizations and themes as I was cumming hard during prostate orgasms. My experiences are absolutely not unique and the truths I arrived at and witnessed can be found across many philosophies including Taoist sexual practicies. Without exoticizing other cultures and practices, I will say that my weeklong voyage into my prostate was INCREDIBLE and ENLIGHTENING and I want to talk with other guys to further my and their journey(s). This alone is worth its own post on here. Pleeease hit me up.

--On my fifth anerosession I used and listened to HypnAerosession that is sold by Aneros. Needless to say I was further launched into pleasure and had my stomach, thighs, and yoga mat covered in more precum than what I made in any of the first four sessions. CD 2 is phenomenal. Nonstop orgasms. Buy it. But not only that -- seeing other member's posts and reading what turned them on heightened my arousal when I brought it up mentally in session. The bottom line here is that cannabis can help you be more receptive to arousal and suggestion, especially if you want or need a guide to take you to pleasure. Gotta say that what thoughts/erotica turns on people for prostate play is very useful for that practice.

--Cannabis has a lot of benefits when used for the right situations and purposes. Definitely read up on different strains, don't smoke/consume too much, and be aware of the not-so-great side effects. Never do any kind of drug you haven't done before with the Aneros or other physical activity, and even then err on the safer side. Another thing is that cannabis has a large number of chemical compounds that are phytoestrogens, and that could mess up your hormones and arousal/energy/more if you are a regular or heavy smoker. Plus, for the most part weed isn't medically standardized, so control is kinda difficult. I like to indulge now and then, but I'm gonna hold back heavily after my experiment here. And what about the potential to become wired to *only* experience a Super-O when baked? Think about it: I've had near daily anerosessions that are hourS long (around 3, 5 hours was my max), cumming from Super-Os who knows how many times total, over about week's time. That's pretty worrisome in the thought that this continued or by itself can be desensitizing to the prostate/mind/both, especially at how extremely early in my journey I am. If anyone has any thoughts about this and desensitization, defintitely comment.

So where am I now at this day and time? I'm trying to stay diligent with @BigGlansDC's kegel routine, start doing more home exercises and buy more fruits/veggies to put in my diet for better holistic health, and being disciplined to keep my lovely Helix Trident in the box on my shelf until a session next week several days from now.

I'm also talking with other interested folks like @rumel about microdosing Psilocybin for anerosessions, starting in the next coming months. Psilocybin recently became legalized in my area, much like how cannabis has been for awhile. Thanks to the legal status and having done Psilocybin a few times before to positive effect, I'm interested in seeing how this can augment my inner journey, in this case focused on prostate and greater pleasure. Of course I'll have Captain's Logs and a plan all set out, and I'll let you know what happens for the furthering of all our journeys.

@poseidon wow so much stuff to comment on, but I need to catch a few zzzz's soon. I'll keep this short, might come back to it later. 

Having sessions on a firm surface is something I discovered relatively late, it's the best way to play in my opinion and opens all manners of possibilities with moving tension in different parts of your body by applying pressure to the ground, or balancing on fewer and fewer contact points. Definitely keep experiencing with this.

Regarding back to back sessions lasting hours, check my posts about my experiences with the Super-O and addictive behaviors and what can possibly happen when it goes a little too well. It's not so much losing sensitivity as becoming numb to everything else. I'm sure you'll get where I'm coming from. If you can't find them I'll link them tomorrow, and I'll be happy to explain how I got out of this mess, at least for now. I'm on break *again* at least until Christmas... and then it's going to be Aless for a while and I'll focus on calm seas. Take care, play safe and don't fry your neuroreceptors!

@zentai Oh wow, yeah definitely link those Forum posts in here and talk more about your experiences! I'm interested to know where you're at with this.

If you're eating it, you probably want 10-20mg of THC to start. And expect it to take 1-2 hours to really start hitting you. I've had good luck with dabs (shatter, budder, etc), but the effect is short lived, so I'm thinking of experimenting more with edibles

Its very strict here in the UK on weed etc but there is this site here in the UK, are these edibles good enough? do they have enough THC to get that same 'high'? anyone know?

https://weedzy.co.uk/product-category/edibles/#

@poseidon There's a thread called Splitting the atom where I started telling the OP to try and let go instead of trying to break the dam, before hijacking the whole thread with my addictive behavior story. You'll find it ->here if I did it correctly. I believe the risk if very low for the vast majority of people but I'll let you make your own mind. Start a new thread if you wish to discuss this further, I like to think my highjacking days are over and this will be better with a fresh start. Or PM me. Happy reading.