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Hi guys.
I've been using my Aneros Helix Syn for about 1 1/2 years now and have made somewhat steady progress. I also have a Progasm and a Eupho syn.
Along the way I've had some wonderful sessions where I thought....'ok, was that a super o?' Never having had one I had no frame of reference to draw on to really didn't know. I knew it was great and I had a really good time, but I just didn't know.
Well, after today, I know. 🙂
My sessions have been getting progressively better over the last couple of months. I started having involuntary contractions about a month ago and I have been getting them on a regular basis every time out since. They are really nice. I could just lay back and let my body do the work and all I had to do was enjoy the sensations. That would last for about 10 minutes and then subside.
That's how it started out today. I had been waiting all morning to get a chance to get my session started but I had to wait for the cable guy to come (No Really!). Needless to say by the time he was gone I was good and prostate horny. I had my Helix inserted about 5 minutes after he left.
The involuntaries started up about 10 minutes in and it felt wonderful. However, instead of the sensations peaking and then just diminishing after a while, they continued to grow. I could tell I was getting close to something special but remained calm and didn't try and force it. I just enjoyed what my body was giving me.
After a little while my breathing started getting heavier and I started getting wave after wave of pleasure radiating out from my abdomen. It felt SOOOO good. Then it hit.
I reached a peak that was so close to the sensation just before ejaculation but more intense. However, instead of lasting a second or two, I stayed right there. I was moaning and writhing on the bed for probably 5 minutes before it let up a bit. Once I caught my breath I rolled over on my back and started some gentle rotating movements with my hips. Now, even after the first orgasm let up I was still around 80% 'there' so it didn't take long for another super o to hit. My legs were quivering, my abbs were tensed right up, and I was in heaven. Just as it started to subside a bit I started to play with my nipples and the super o ramped right back to full strength. Man oh Man it was out of this world. My cock was at full attention and it felt like I was gonna cum, but I didn't. I just stayed at that plateau for minutes.
Next I rolled back over on my right side, where I always start out, and another wave of super o's grabbed me. My insides had completely taken over. I had no control over what my muscles were doing and I didn't care. I just didn't want it to stop. I just kept moving around to different positions and every time I did it would trigger more super o's. All together I was probably in a state of total orgasm for ½ an hour before it finally let up and I was able to relax.
When I did relax at the end I felt totally spent, but not in the same way I do after a regular orgasm. I was so relaxed, but I could still feel like I had sexual energy left inside. I felt wonderful, and still do!
So for you guys who are wondering whether or not you've had a super o, you probably haven't … yet. Believe me once you do you'll know it!
Now the next trick for me will be to do it again...and again....


   
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And this was with the helix classic? I always feel that device never really works for me. Also you are using the 'do nothing' technique here? Just mental focus perhaps? Out of curiosity (sorry for so many questions) what sort of lube did you use?

Congrats btw!


   
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I have a Helix Syn, not the classic. It was the first aneros I bought and it's still my favourite. I do use the others from time to time, mostly the progasm, but the helix syn just feels so 'right' in there. It's hard to explain. The only problem is just because it works for me doesn't mean that it'll work for everyone. So many people love the MGX, but it never did anything for me. The angle just seemed a bit too harsh. One thing I have done to my helix is cut off the back curly part so I can lay on my back without having it touch the bed.

Also you are using the 'do nothing' technique here? Just mental focus perhaps? Out of curiosity (sorry for so many questions) what sort of lube did you use?

The big turning point for me was when I decided to let my body dictate what happens during a session, not me. Like every other guy on the planet I was trying (even sub-consiously) to take my body to the orgasm rather than letting it come to me. One day I said 'enough of this'. I said to myself that I would just let my body do what it wants and I'll love whatever it gives me. I just inserted my helix and relaxed and enjoyed the sensations, however small. I almost took a spectator role, letting my body make love to itself via the aneros. I would do nothing for a while and then start a few light contractions, just enough to promote some nice feelings. If I went to heavy it'd kill everything and that was it. Again, you can't make it come to you.
Even that approach took a bit of practice because my mind will wander at times, but once the nice sensations start up it's pretty easy to keep concentrating on them. Sometimes all I would get would be a few P waves or some tingling down there. Other times I would get a few anal contractions similar to (but lighter than) the ones during regular orgasm. Other times I wouldn't get much of anything. Whatever happened or didn't happen I said 'ok that's fine ....thank you'. I accepted whatever my body gave me and knew that even if I didn't get that much pleasure, my body was learning and that next time would be different.
One day I noticed that even though I wasn't doing it, My butt muscles were contracting a bit on their own. It was a weird feeling. I felt like I could stop them if I wanted, but why would I? It felt really good. I remember reading in the forum that your body naturally strives for pleasure, and obviously my body was doing what it knew would feel good. After a while those involuntaries got stronger and they lasted a long time.
That's where I was until yesterday when the final buttons got pushed and it sent me to my super o's. One thing I should mention is that those super o's didn't build up to a sharp peak like a regular orgasm where you go 'over the edge'. It builds slowly and continuously to a plateau where you stay. I remember thinking at one point yesterday that my whole body was in orgasm and it felt exactly like it does for that 1 second before ejaculation....but I stayed there for like 2 or 3 minutes! It was out of this world. Then, the next super o's that came along were a bit different, but just as spectacular.
As for the lube I use, I only use pure organic coconut oil. I melt it to a liquid state then insert some inside me with an anal syringe, which you can get on ebay. Then I coat my aneros with a bit more and put it in. It lasts as long as I need it to without reapplying, and it works well ...for me.
I really hope this helps. I wish I could say to do this, then that, then that, and you'll have your super o, but as you know it doesn't work that way. I really do encourage you to try and let your body take charge because things changed drastically for me when I did. It still takes time, but if you're just enjoying what your body gives you, it's ok.


   
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I reached a peak that was so close to the sensation just before ejaculation but more intense. However, instead of lasting a second or two, I stayed right there

Just want to compare notes here...
Was it like being stuck on the edge of a sneeze, where it takes that momentary itch, freezes it in time, and dials it way up? Like it could be an ejaculation if there was any kinetic energy behind it, but there isn't? Like the prostate is feeling this amazing tender itch, that'd almost be painful if it didn't feel so good... like it's begging to be pumped full of semen, just so it has something to ejaculate? A pleasure with an mildly unbearable undertone, like being tickled.


   
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Was it like being stuck on the edge of a sneeze, where it takes that momentary itch, freezes it in time, and dials it way up? Like it could be an ejaculation if there was any kinetic energy behind it, but there isn't? Like the prostate is feeling this amazing tender itch, that'd almost be painful if it didn't feel so good... like it's begging to be pumped full of semen, just so it has something to ejaculate? A pleasure with an mildly unbearable undertone, like being tickled.

Wow Clenchy that's a tough question, but i think you're really close with the sneeze analogy. Like I said, during that time I had a variety of different orgasms that felt different. At one point I felt like if I wasn't careful I would have an ejaculation. When I started feeling that I consciously backed things off a bit until that feeling subsided. At that point a bit of semen leaked out, but that was it. I shifted position a bit and was able to let another orgasm build without that feeling.
As for the feeling in the prostate, it seemed to be the trigger for the orgasm, but not the feeling of the orgasm itself. During the parts where I wasn't in orgasm I would relax and then I could feel the pleasure start to build in my prostate again...not really an itch per se, but a REALLY good feeling that would build and then spread through my body and trigger another orgasm. During the orgasms themselves there was so much going on throughout my body that I didn't really feel much in that area specifically. It was no doubt there, but it was mixed in with everything else.
I hope this answers your questions a bit anyway.
Man it's hard to describe a feeling to someone else isn't it ...


   
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Yeah, sorry to ambush you with that one... it's something new I've been experiencing lately that I'm curious about. I'm wondering where these sensations lead, and how close I am to something bigger... but I'll continue searching the forum for clues. 😉

Also, big congrats on your progress... that's great going for ~18 months.


   
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it's something new I've been experiencing lately that I'm curious about. I'm wondering where these sensations lead, and how close I am to something bigger... but I'll continue searching the forum for clues.

I dunno Clenchy ...I'm no expert but it sounds to me like you're getting close to something bigger too. My only advice is don't try and force it... just accept what your body gives you and enjoy it...the day will come when you least expect it .....:D


   
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A question, you and other people have described the dry-o/super-o as similar to the sensation just before ejaculation in a normal orgasm.
Other people say they feel they are cumming as if it was like an ejaculatory orgasm (i.e. they feel the same as when they ejaculate).

So which one of these is true? Are both true and sometimes you have one kind and other times you have another kind?

If there is no "ejaculation pleasure" stage then aren't dry/super-os NOT orgasms but a plateau of intense pre-orgasmic pleasure?
As I only got sporadically some things I think are weak dry-os or something like that, I am curious on how it feels. I know it's hard to describe but I am lost for example on what are mini-os and p-waves, have no idea what they could be.


   
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I agree with Karvec that the "lie back, relax, and let your body (and the Aneros ) do the work" is an approach that also works very well for me. I would also add that mental focus can be very helpful in increasing the intensity and duration of orgasms. I find that whenever I get a particularly pleasurable sensation that makes me say to myself "that feels soooo good" then focussing mentally on that sensation often causes it to become more intense and last much longer.


   
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@RSilva - I've been curious about this too.
I've read reports where people say they had to look down to see if they were ejaculating, but they weren't. Others saying it's like shooting the biggest load ever, with no cum.
My own best experiences have been orgasms that rose slowly, plateaued, but then also peaked exactly like a traditional orgasm does, but with none of the rhythmic muscular spasms that go along with ejaculation. For some reason that dry ejaculation response never triggers in my sessions, no matter how intense the pleasure gets. Although I feel like I might be getting closer to connecting with that side of things. I think my re-wiring has taken a weird path compared to some people.

On a side note, I do wish people would be more specific about whether they're talking about a dry orgasm, and/or a dry ejaculation, since from my experience, they're not one and the same.


   
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How exactly will you know you have a Super O when you have one?
How do you know you are not having one when you are not actually having one?

I mean, I could call what I experience so far, a Super O, just because I've not had anything better than this, so far.


   
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Wow ..lots of good (and hard) questions! Let me see what I can do ...probably not much! 🙂

If there is no "ejaculation pleasure" stage then aren't dry/super-os NOT orgasms but a plateau of intense pre-orgasmic pleasure?
As I only got sporadically some things I think are weak dry-os or something like that, I am curious on how it feels. I know it's hard to describe but I am lost for example on what are mini-os and p-waves, have no idea what they could be.

One thing you have to remember RSilva is that orgasm and ejaculation are two different things that happen one after the other. Ya it feels really good to be pumping out a nice full load, but that's not the orgasm. The orgasm is what you feel just before that when ...well you know how it feels. What I experienced with the super o's is that feeling throughout my whole body. However, instead of lasting only a second or two it went on for a minute or two at a time, and then it would calm down a bit and then start again. I'm guessing I probably had about 10 orgasms in that space of maybe half an hour, and only once did I feel like I might have an ejaculation. When I started to feel that I consciously backed off a bit so I didn't. I wanted it to last!
As for mini-o's and p-waves, I don't really know if there's a real definition for them. I've kind of given up on trying to put names to everything I'm feeling during my sessions. For me I found it to be counter productive because I was always wondering what it was I was feeling instead of just enjoying what I was feeling! I decided I don't care what it's called as long as it feels good.

I find that whenever I get a particularly pleasurable sensation that makes me say to myself "that feels soooo good" then focussing mentally on that sensation often causes it to become more intense and last much longer.

I agree 100%.

My own best experiences have been orgasms that rose slowly, plateaued, but then also peaked exactly like a traditional orgasm does, but with none of the rhythmic muscular spasms that go along with ejaculation. For some reason that dry ejaculation response never triggers in my sessions, no matter how intense the pleasure gets.

My limited experience (one time so far) was the same. I never felt any ejaculation-like spasms during my super o's. Like I said, once it felt like it might start, but I didn't want to and was able to stop it before it started.

How exactly will you know you have a Super O when you have one?

I truly hope I didn't mislead anyone with the title of my post. I should never have presumed to know how anyone else might feel. All I know is that when my super o's hit it was miles beyond anything else I had felt when i would ask myself 'Was that a super o?' This time there was no doubt. Maybe someone else who has experienced more super o's can help me out with this one.....when you had your first super o, was there any doubt?

Please don't anyone think I'm trying to tell you what you should be expecting your super o's to feel like because I don't know. All I'm doing is telling you as best I can what I was feeling in the hopes that it'll encourage everyone who hasn't experienced one yet. Chances are yours will be different. Heck I don't even think I had two that felt the same!

Maybe in the next 100 years or so when we all have our brain implants all wired in to the master computer we will all know how everyone's orgasms feel! 😀


   
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@karvec1959 have you managed to repeat your super O success in subsequent sessions?


   
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@karvec1959,

I'm glad you took the time to clarify a couple of important aspects of your Super-O experience.

As for mini-o's and p-waves, I don't really know if there's a real definition for them. I've kind of given up on trying to put names to everything I'm feeling during my sessions. For me I found it to be counter productive because I was always wondering what it was I was feeling instead of just enjoying what I was feeling! I decided I don't care what it's called as long as it feels good.

You are quite correct about it being rather counter productive to spend time over analyzing or trying to verbalize a body language for which no words exist, these are unique feelings for each man to experience and, despite the commonalities, no two men will experience them quite the same. Incidentally, FYI, the Aneros WIKI Glossary does contain references to mini-o's & p-waves.

I truly hope I didn't mislead anyone with the title of my post. I should never have presumed to know how anyone else might feel. All I know is that when my super o's hit it was miles beyond anything else I had felt when i would ask myself 'Was that a super o?' This time there was no doubt.

Unfortunately, those types of statements can be misleading, the truth is many men DO doubt some of their sessions with Super-O's because their experiences didn't align with their expectations. While very intense Super-O's are very easy to recognize, it is important to remember that orgasms occur across a continuum of intensity and do not fall into easily defined status levels. The definition provided in the Aneros WIKI for a Super-O is actually quite broad :
... Super-O's come in all shapes and sizes. Some are small, some are large, some are single, some are multiple, some are centered in one area while others are in another. Some are particularly intense, while others are more subdued. ... The Super-O is very personal and different for each individual.
Please read 'Buster's thread What exactly is a Super-O? to get a wider perspective of what a Super-O is in reality. It may also be helpful for new users to read my post regarding 'the Edge' and a couple of other myths. Also please read Neros' thread The Myth of Super Orgasm.

Maybe in the next 100 years or so when we all have our brain implants all wired in to the master computer we will all know how everyone's orgasms feel! 😀

Maybe... but...I am doubtful it will help any particular individual obtain his own Super-O. Good Vibes to You !


   
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Thanks so much for the wise words as always Rumel!

have you managed to repeat your super O success in subsequent sessions?

I haven't actually had any time to try another session on my own yet however.....
On Sunday my wife and I were planning a little together time in the afternoon. She had a couple things to do before so I told her to give me a half hour or so with my helix and then come and join me. (She loves it when I have one of my massagers in when we're together)
Shortly after I got helix in there I started getting the same really nice feelings I had in my last session. The involuntaries started up and I was feeling great. I had such wonderful feelings in my entire abdomen, I did have a somewhat minor orgasm in there. Shortly after that my wife came in and we started to make love. The great feelings inside didn't let up and what she was doing on the outside was adding to it . The coolest part was when I was giving her oral sex I was having orgasms at the same time she was. We were both panting ...it was great. The orgasms I was having weren't as powerful as the super o's I had by myself, but they were real and they were wonderful! I don't think she really noticed how good a time I was having...she was kind of distracted...:D

I'm going to have an hour or so to myself later that I'm going to use well...time for another go with helix. It's obvious to me I've turned a corner in my journey and I'm looking forward to exploring it more and more.


   
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Now the next trick for me will be to do it again

I'm going to have an hour or so to myself later that I'm going to use well...time for another go with helix.

Well one thing I discovered is that it is definitely repeatable. Last night I had some time so I had an hour long session. As soon as I got my helix in there I could immediately feel him in contact with my prostate. That had never happened before. I could feel the pressure/nice feeling right away, and it quickly turn to all pleasure. Over the next 10 minutes or so the pleasure built and spread and I spent the next 45 minutes in various states of orgasm. Some were intense and some were more subdued, but all were wonderful. There were times when I thought it had run its course so I'd just lay there and relax in a sort of afterglow. However, the pleasure would start to glow in my abdomen again and it'd start another series of orgasms. Wonderful....
At one point I thought I'd try my progasm to see what it did. At first I thought it'd be good, but then it seemed to overpower my prostate and became uncomfortable. I took it out and reinserted my helix. What happened then was cool. I moved my hips gently and it almost felt like my helix was gently massaging my prostate to sooth it. About 5 minutes later I was rewarded with 2 or 3 final orgasms before I crossed the finish line. What a wonderful experience!

I did try it again today, however I think everything is tired and needs a rest. I could feel the pressure/pleasure when I inserted helix again but it soon became a bit uncomfortable. I think it needs some time off after the vigorous workouts lately. The way my next week is laid out it will probably be next Wednesday before I can try again. By then hopefully my prostate will be re-energized and ready to go again...we'll see.
Even if it is a while before this level of pleasure happens again I will continue to love what my body gives me. That attitude has gotten me great results...no reason to change!


   
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