Any idea how to have a multiple traditional orgasm?

Hey @DarkOrb,

always asking the right questions :).

The PC-clench method (Keesling method) doesn't work for me either. My muscles are just not strong enough. The idea is, that you clench so strong that you'll supress the spasms that transport the semen out. I only manage to do that, when I have wet dreams. Orgasms make me lucid and somehow I can clench harder in this situation(no idea why). But it feels like sneezing with your nose and mouth shut - not very pleasant!

What works well is the re-wiring of the penis - there is a good thread on that, I'll add a link later. The key idea is to wank rather slowly, totally relax your pelvic floor (which normaly builds tension, which triggers the ejac.-reflex), avoid the frenulum (which seems to be hardwired to your seminal ducts and builds tension again) and recognize if your seminal ducts swell and have fluid movements(sign you already built unwanted tension). If thats the case, you are on the traditional path and have to cool down and start over.

Last but not least a way I learned from YOU (oh the irony) just recently: clench the levator prostatae and leave the rest of the pelvic floor relaxed (while wanking ofc). This seems to work as the Keesling method intended, but very smooth and without the need of brute force. I tried this just once so far (like 30 mins and 5-8 orgasms, which became less and less exciting) and need further evaluation - but it seems the most promising method so far.

Cheers, Unfug

Thanks for your answer

What works well is the re-wiring of the penis - there is a good thread on that, I'll add a link later. The key idea is to wank rather slowly, totally relax your pelvic floor (which normaly builds tension, which triggers the ejac.-reflex), avoid the frenulum (which seems to be hardwired to your seminal ducts and builds tension again) and recognize if your seminal ducts swell and have fluid movements(sign you already built unwanted tension). If thats the case, you are on the traditional path and have to cool down and start over.

That sounds really interesting. I´m looking forward to a link. 🙂

Last but not least a way I learned from YOU (oh the irony) just recently: clench the levator prostatae and leave the rest of the pelvic floor relaxed (while wanking ofc)

Great idea to do that while wanking. I never tried that before and it seems worth a try. 🙂

I can tell you of my experience with this, not many people seem to ask me about it but it stands as the most memorable sexual experience of my life.

- I used a suction dildo and stuck it to the wall
- I relaxed on to it, i leaned on it as well so my legs are forward of my body
- I played with my nipples

This put pressure on the prostate in some form and after a short build up i got two, consectuive dry orgasms. These orgasms were 100% the same as ejaculatory ones but no semen shot out.

Then after a few moments i continued, after another build up i ejaculated, however it was not quite normal. It 'pissed' out of me like a fountain and was a very strong, lengthy orgasm. The height of the spray was remarkable. I beleive this may have been an example of male squirting through sexual excitement.

A few seconds after this one subsided, i ejaculated again, this time more like a normal spurting but still, a lot pupmed out of me. After this subsided, another ejaculatory orgasm, just as intense. At this point i had the oddest thought which was that "my penis was vomiting" like an involuntary reaction was happening and i could do nothing stop it, just like when youre vomiting i guess. After this thought, i ejacualted again, just as intense. A large puddle had formed and my legs and feet were covered! It then stopped. So i had 4 ejaculatory orgasms and 2 dry orgasms.

Recently i have found using a peredise and wanking my penis head gets me to a point of dry orgasming and i can stay there for a long while.

At this point i had the oddest thought which was that "my penis was vomiting" like an involuntary reaction was happening and i could do nothing stop it, just like when youre vomiting i guess.

That sentence was not really helpful for my emetophobia, i guess. 😀 But thanks anyway for your post. Direct prostate stimulation does nothing for me, because it´s too inconvenient for my arms, because i can´t find the spot where i can say for sure: "Yep, that´s my prostate for sure." and because i can´t allow to let myself fall into the feelings.

I´m looking forward to a link.

Well I found it, and it's a thread you startet, man you are everywhere ;).

Ah, you mean that thread. 🙂 While i can generate sexual energy with penis stimulation and use it for an aneros or a-less session, i can´t use it to have multiple traditional orgasms. It´s like a capacitor (i already wrote that in my thread), everytime i reach the point of no return (and have a traditional orgasm), my capacitor is blowing up and i can´t have another orgasm for a few minutes and i feel tired (refractory period). I have to re-route that sexual energy f.e. to my prostate and have an a-less or aneros orgasm (mini-o´s or super-o´s). Now i want to avoid that short-circuit in my penis and have a multiple penile orgasm. In my thread i wrote that you can generate sexual energy which you can use for an aneros session, but not how to use it for a traditional multiple orgasm. That´s the next big thing i have to figure out. 🙂

Hey @DarkOrb,

hm ok, I get that - didn't remebered that so well. All I remember is, that I broadly explained my penis-re-wiring wisdom in this thread :).

So when you edge, focus on your seminal vesicles and notice how the fluids gather (and how they literally prepare to get shot out). When this happens you are on the wrong path. When you get trained, you'll notice the signs earlier and earlier and it will become second nature to build the pleasure without the tension around your inner sex organs. This is the key skill to avoid ejaculation imho.

Have you tried cleching the levator prostatae yet? Keep us posted if it works for you.

Cheers, Unfug

Have you tried cleching the levator prostatae yet? Keep us posted if it works for you.

Not yet, but i will try it tonight. 🙂

EDIT: Tried it last night with no success. I was able to delay, but not to prevent the ejaculation. 🙁 Tonight i will try the "penis rewiring" technique.

Unfug.

I am one of those guys who can relax the pelvic floor muscles and with shaft edging keeping away from stroking the frenulum, can have wonderful dry Os when my prostate gets heated up. I use lots of nipple play to heat up my prostate. Seems my nipples are directly connected to my prostate.

At their height of arousal, my dry Os feel like subtle ejaculatory Os with nothing but precum. Last week, I had a total body O where the wave swept my body. This lasted for about thirty seconds and why I didnt try to ride it longer I dont know. I dont even know what I did to make the total body wave subside. I was surprized when it happened and probably overthought it or analyzed it rather than just quieting my mind to enjoy it........

Would you identify the levator prostatae muscle in either a diagram or describing how to access them. I have looked online but the diagrams and descriptions of those muscles are difficult to ascertain. How do I access them to build up my orgasms.

Thanks to all on this website. Does anyone have comments on what I may be experiencing if this is not dry Os or total body Os. My journey continues in the quest for the fountain of youth.

Hey @Turnrow,

my dry Os feel like subtle ejaculatory Os with nothing but precum

I don't even have the precum, just the traditional spasm but i remain dry since the valves at the seminal ducts keeps shut.

I dont even know what I did to make the total body wave subside. I was surprized when it happened and probably overthought it or analyzed it rather than just quieting my mind to enjoy it...

Don't stress yourself. They are called waves because they come and go. With a little confidence and kept up arousal, they usually come back (even stronger). Maybe the surprising element took your confidence and distracted you. But there is always a next session. 🙂

Would you identify the levator prostatae muscle in either a diagram or describing how to access them. I have looked online but the diagrams and descriptions of those muscles are difficult to ascertain. How do I access them to build up my orgasms.

Sure. I post a certain medical tutorial on youtube whenever I get this question. It even made it into the wiki in the meantime. Here is the time marker, where the LP is shown. And here is a link to @DarkOrb's recent thread where he gives instructions how to play with it :). About the accessing: I talked about that long and broadly in the My First Super Orgasm Thread, so I'll just give you a link. It takes some time to build up the muscle memory, but it's def. worth it and a life long skill (like riding a bike). You'll eventually come to a point, where you don't have to concentrate on the things you do anymore, but just do them.

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This may be of interest. I would not advocate the use of a metal cock ring though, seems risky in my mind.

Interesting indeed. I don't understand where all the sperm is coming from though and how he doesn't get tired although is ejac.-reflex is triggered so often.

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Tried it last night with no success. I was able to delay, but not to prevent the ejaculation. Tonight i will try the "penis rewiring" technique.

Hm, I guess you'll have to use those both methods in conjunction. Maybe it's even just me who it works for. All I can say is, that relaxing the pelvic floor is generally neccessary to avoid tension around your inner sex organs and one way to do so, is to just flex one single muscle to canalize the "heat" through this very muscle (and thus away from the seminal vesicles). Before I exploited the LP, I often used the anococcygeal ligament for that.

Cheers, Unfug

@Unfug:

I DID IT!!! I´ve tried the "Penis rewiring" technique tonight. Its mindblowing that it worked at the first time: I´ve masturbated and everytime i´ve felt a muscle clench i´ve slowed down fully relaxed my pelvis area while stroking. I didn´t flexed any muscles at all. After some time my glans never felt like this before: It was some kind of burning sensation and like all my pleasure was located in the glans. After some time my glans felt like it would explode, a pleasant pressure and pleasant feelings i´ve never felt before in my penis. Then i was in the area where i would normally ejaculate and felt the need to ejaculate but because i prevented all muscle contractions and prevented a build up with that, i didn´t ejaculate. Instead of ejaculating a orgasm wave was running through my entire body. It also felt like a traditional penis orgasm, but it was much, much stronger. Then i slowed down again and did the same thing again until i had my 2nd dry orgasm which was even stronger. Then i had to stand up and had to write this post. 🙂 I have to say: This was so awesome. And do you know what is more awesome?:

I feel like almost everybody could get this technique right at the first try. It was so easy and straightforward. I would almost call it McMMO (You know "Mc" like that big Burger franchise 😉 ), just that the meal is the most delicios and healthy thing on earth. Do you mind if i share that technique in a german masturbation forum? I think they would really like it because they are in the search for new techniques but don´t have the balls for advanced MMO techniques i shared earlier. 😀

I have to thank you really much. 🙂

@Unfug:

I DID IT!!! I´ve tried the "Penis rewiring" technique tonight. Its mindblowing that it worked at the first time: I´ve masturbated and everytime i´ve felt a muscle clench i´ve slowed down fully relaxed my pelvis area while stroking. I didn´t flexed any muscles at all. After some time my glans never felt like this before: It was some kind of burning sensation and like all my pleasure was located in the glans. After some time my glans felt like it would explode, a pleasant pressure and pleasant feelings i´ve never felt before in my penis. Then i was in the area where i would normally ejaculate and felt the need to ejaculate but because i prevented all muscle contractions and prevented a build up with that, i didn´t ejaculate. Instead of ejaculating a orgasm wave was running through my entire body. It also felt like a traditional penis orgasm, but it was much, much stronger. Then i slowed down again and did the same thing again until i had my 2nd dry orgasm which was even stronger. Then i had to stand up and had to write this post. 🙂 I have to say: This was so awesome. And do you know what is more awesome?:

I feel like almost everybody could get this technique right at the first try. It was so easy and straightforward. I would almost call it McMMO (You know "Mc" like that big Burger franchise 😉 ), just that the meal is the most delicios and healthy thing on earth. Do you mind if i share that technique in a german masturbation forum? I think they would really like it because they are in the search for new techniques but don´t have the balls for advanced MMO techniques i shared earlier. 😀

I have to thank you really much. 🙂

Could you outline what this penis retiring technique is for us please?

Hey @DarkOrb,

wow, I'm really happy this approach worked out for you! 🙂

And do you know what is more awesome?: I feel like almost everybody could get this technique right at the first try.

Maybe, but keep in mind, that you are rather advanced already. You know your body and it's possibilities very well - you can even trigger head orgasms, who else has such a good starting point? But yeah, this technique is pretty easy to learn as soon as one masters to recognize the signals of their inner sex organs.

Do you mind if i share that technique in a german masturbation forum?

Go and spread the word! As Jack Johnson use to say "We change the world one orgasm at the time." You may mention this forum though and whom they can be thankful for... I like my memorial-statues 3 meters high and gold-plated... 😎

I have to thank you really much.

No no no, I thank you. I learned about the possibilities of hypnosis and head orgasms because of you. This led me to trance and to a general deeper understanding of everything I learned so far.

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Could you outline what this penis retiring technique is for us please?

He is refering to the technique I explained in this thread.

Cheers, Unfug

I like my memorial-statues 3 meters high and gold-plated... 😎

Can be arranged. 😀

By the way, i just found out that a constant light to medium reverse kegel of the PC muscle combined with totally relaxation of the pelvic area is the key for the penis rewiring technique. If i don"t do a reverse kegel and just relax, i could have a involuntary contraction near the orgasm any time which could lead to a ejaculation. The reverse kegel makes me confident that i won't have a ejaculation any time soon and can keep going until the orgasm. If i feel the reverse kegel weakening before the orgasm, i know that i should slow down and start another constant reverse kegel.

@DarkOrb Fantatisch! I too enjoy A-less penis play to dry O's. I slowly squeeze the glans in time with my heart beat. When I get erect it feels like I'm directly massaging my prostate and the sensations are amazing, very intense.

Hey @DarkOrb,

i just found out that a constant light to medium reverse kegel of the PC muscle combined with totally relaxation of the pelvic area is the key for the penis rewiring technique

Interesting, will try this out next time.

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I slowly squeeze the glans in time with my heart beat.

That's sounds intriguing, a very good use of bio-feedback! How do you sense your heart beat? Through relaxation alone or do you use some kind of heart monitor?

That reminds me of something I never shared here. Can't remember where I have it from. It's a psychosomatic approach that exploids the fact, that the involuntary spasm, that transport the semen out during orgasm/ejaculation, happen with a very specific frequency. So the approach is, to do kegels or prostate massage (or glans stim in this case) at this very rate, so the brain recognizes it and triggers an orgams. The frequency is 1,25 Hz or 0,8 spasms/flexes per second. Or 75 bpm if you use a metronome for orientation.

Cheers, Unfug