Anerosutra

Drawings, or  pictures of an artist mannequin, to catalogue positions would be super helpful.

What a great idea!

Drawings would not need to be very detailed at all. In fact stick figures would be fine.

Look at these stick figure drawings I found on google image search:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=stick+figure+drawings

Even better: https://www.google.com/search?q=sleeping+positions&tbm=isch

Posted by: @zentai

... what I wanted to do was get a little artist mannequin and take pictures, then assign a letter or name to each... maybe a position bank would help people communicate more easily or give them ideas to try. So what I want to do is make a "master list" to see how big a project it really is. 

Basically I want some opinions on this thing. Worth it ? Needlessly obssesional ? Would it be useful for individuals or the community ? 

I think your idea certainly has merit and is not "Needlessly obsessional". Thumbnail photos using an artist mannequin to illustrate the positions already noted in the Aneros WIKI (Getting Started -> Body Positions section) might be helpful to new members. Since the Aneros WIKI is meant to be a central repository for all things related to the prostate massage practice protocol, it makes sense for it to be there.

Nomenclature could be pretty simple, e.g. any position starting out on your back would simply become B-? followed by a number of the variant position, laying on your front would be F-?, kneeling positions would be K-?, laying on your side would be S-?. Sitting positions SI-?, standing positions ST-?. Once the photographs were standardized they could be uploaded to Aneros for inclusion in the WIKI.

I encourage you to proceed further with this endeavor.

Good Vibes to You!

@rumel

Thanks for the nomenclature ideas ! I just found this : https://magicposer.com/

It's free so everyone could participate. Like you said, we would need to standardize picture size and orientation, but I'm pretty confident that at least one guy on the forum wouldn't mind taking an evening to redo them once we think we got them all.  I'm not very good but I bet I could get the hang of it and would volunteer. If we go that route I'd think about getting some 3D models for chairs and beds  to really make it look nice. We'll see. 

It goes without saying that the Wiki would be the final destination for this little project. I attached a screenshot of one of the pre-sets, I think we could make this work. 

@flesh_joe

That's perfect. So someone just circle the position they want in MSPaint for example, uploads it here, we adapt the pose to the standard (picture, rendering, whatever we decide), then done. I just wish I could draw good looking, well proportioned sticks figures with some emotion, that would be a lot more easier.

Just with the search results you provided, we cover at least half the laying positions. I think that a workable image can be found for about 80% of positions (sitting, standing...)  so we just have to hunt for them. The real work would be for exotic positions where we would need to go back and forth to get them right according to user's descriptions. 

I didn't really do my homework here, anyone can guess how many unique positions we're dealing with ? And should we do mirrors, like laying down right leg bent VS laying down left leg bent ? 

@zentai there really aren't that many different positions. 30, 40? We'll know we're nearly complete (99% or more) when no one proposes a new position to be added when 1-2 years have passed after the last addition 😉

It depends if we count variations, let's say laying down with arms close to body and legs straight is the most basic laying position. 

Let's name it B-1 for now as per @rumel 's nomenclature method, which I think is a good way to separate everything.  Now if we cross the legs at the ankles I guess we have B-2, and if we cross at the tights we have B-3, or are they just "B-1 with legs crossed" ? 

I still think we shouldn't count things such as left leg crossed over or right leg crossed over as different since the feedback/pressure/tension is basically the same and we would just add clutter. 

I'll start with the Wiki, add all the ones I know that aren't there, then do a quick forum sweep for some more. I guess we can reach 30 positions very easily without anything exotic, 50 is not impossible if we add some variations. Once we have a list, users will be able to comment and I'll update until it gets more or less stable. Then it's image time. 

@zentai we can always make a B2RA and B2RK for B2 right ankle and B2 right knee. But at this time, as you say, it's probably too specific

Progress!

Also of interest is whether people are using props to elevate certain parts of their body, and if so what, how much, and which part of their body.

OK that will surely make the number of variants rise significantly

@flesh_joe

I started the list last night and I'm up to 39 unique positions without being too "anal" about it. Can't be more than 50 if you don't count bungie jumping or sky diving with an aneros. I'd say about 5 will only work aless but will definitely be included anyway.

For example I'm only counting 4 truly unique side position, but if I start to count left vs right side and corresponding arms and legs position + the ones I missed I'll get to 20 in a hurry 

Since there's only a few standing and kneeling positions I'll list those first so people can start to comment.

Standing (3) :

1. Upright, legs togethers, arms to side
2. Upright, legs distanced, arms to side
3. Upright, legs distanced, leaning on something or "police frisking position"

Now you see where this could be going, right leg in front, left foot on chair... it will be necessary to weed out positions that maybe could work but no one ever used... 

Kneeling (6)

1. Kneeling torso upright
2. Laying back, hands on floor or ankles
3. All 4s
4. All 4s kneeling forward (ass up, face down)
5. Beside bed, arms supported torso upright
6. Beside bed, torso + arms + head supported.

So what does it look like ?

 Edit : if standing with one foot on chair is anyone's favorite, just comment and I'll add it ! Can't argue with results !

@canonprf

Thank you, that's the kind of constructive criticism I'm looking for !

I've been working on speed writing for a while (paper and ink), I can assure you that it's already unreadable enough. So to share it I'd have to translate it anyway, and its not in English so that's translating twice. For sure I'd make my own code for positions since they wont make any sense in the original French... So any "code" will be for personal use. I only truly use about 10 positions so they'd be #1-10 and that's it. 

If I came across your first example in a post, I'd take a guess that the author is just lazy and doesn't want to be read, or that it's some sort of "elite clique" stuff that I shouldn't bother with. Things are already complicated enough. So I completely agree with you on this.

What I really want to end up with is like one of these yoga posters showing all poses on one page. I hope people would still use plain English to communicate on the forum, but having some nomenclature seems better to me than using "x,y", so that's the main reason to assign numbers or letters when referencing the chart. 

Like I said, I would not even use most of them in my own writing so it's mainly up to what people here would like. I could draw 10 horrible stick figures on a piece of paper and be done with it, but I was thinking that the community might benefit and that it could be a fun project for me, so the scope became larger. 

tl;dr (joke intended) : people starting to use shorthand in forum posts would be a bad idea indeed. We already see some for various Aneros models  and I don't particularly care about those. Don't want to create more and chase new guys away with jargon and secret tribal knowledge. I've seen forums like that and they ALL sucked. So if this project could lead to that... that's something to consider.

To go back to your basic questions @zentai I think pictures of positions, mannequin or otherwise, are more useful for positions that are, specifically, not easily described. Useful more to the community than an individual (You already know the positions you personally use after all).

As for naming conventions/code etc... for the sake of the wiki it would be good to have groupings.
On the forums, however, may as well simply link the relevant image.

I'm sure some users have their own, naturally formed, sequences of movements. Much like a simple yoga routine. Be interesting to compare those with pictures ready to hand.

Short update : I made zero progress on this since I talked about it in September. I did finish the list of positions and that's when it dawned on me that I don't believe that an Anerosutra is really needed. 

For the most part I switched to only using 2 positions and don't find a need for more. I need stability, access to my nipples and belly; and when using my bearing trick it needs to stay in place, so that does not leave that many options.

Another thing that I was not considering is safety, when the Super-O comes and things start spinning I better be laying down or sitting, so now I only start that way, and that's what I would recommend for most people anyway.

So I think that while people should be trying new positions often for variety and just plain fun, cataloging everything won't result in better orgasms. I'm really going the other direction and trying to make things simpler for myself at this point.

I may come back to it during the colder winter months but not too sure about that. It just seems like a nice thing to have, but not really important for results.

Visual guide would help me loads. Especially because some of the descriptions like on your back with a pillow are a bit confusing how the aneros doesn't hit the bed etc... I think it's a great project. Maybe first just start with cataloguing some good diagrams. That Japanese Youtuber guy has some great diagrams and that really makes things clear, you have my support!

For myself, early on, I started understanding positions watching videos of guys having Super-Os. There is not really clarity, especially for beginners with Aneros directions to lay on side, plus you don’t completely get it watching videos with no description. A basic catalog of ‘safe’ positions would be useful. Descriptions and reasoning are important.

Possible basic illustrations:

• Back - knees bent feet flat, legs down spread eagle, legs down together (plus with pillow - under butt, under lower back)
• Side - lower leg straight with top leg at chest, both legs pulled up to chest
• Face down - spread eagle, legs together (pillows?)
• Kneeling
• All fours

I still don’t understand why Aneros suggests the side position.

@mountain-below-the-sea

That's one of the problem, when you start adding pillows and foam wedges, the exact placement will vary from man to man depending on body weight and size and shape. I don't think you could show all possibilities.

In your example, that pillow doesn't go under your lower back, it's already arched so you don't get much lift. You need to put it almost under your tailbone and adjust until the Aneros just clears. But then your midsection is a little crunched and it's harder to do abdominal breathing... lots of minor stuff to adjust.

@zaqpol

If I had to take a guess, the side position is comfortable for many men and it's one of the classic "prostate exam" position so it seems logical that it would be a good position to start with for easy access plus no issue with the tail of the toy rubbing on anything. 

Never had much succes with it but it's very popular for a lot of users. If it was up to me, the basic instruction would be to try a variety of positions laying on a bed and use the one that is the most comfortable to you as your starter position. For some, laying on your side just won't do it. The five you propose would be a good start. 

Interesting to see what the names become