Aneros and dope, the best thing since Rum and Cola

So you make the specious argument that it's not all coz you weren't conscious of certain things before you smoked?That some things were below the surface and appeared after you smoked, so? it still doesn't mean that whatever you think of doesn't get enhanced when you smoke. As I said before, it actually puts more burden of responsibility on taking control of your thoughts, because these thoughts get magnified.

And as for your breakup with your gf, as I stated in the thread, http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/aneros-coz-men-only-think-one-thing-14725/ , women and men have different evolutionary strategies, so women project their animus onto men and men project their anima onto women, so if you were in love with anything you were in love with your projection, hope this helps!

One last thing about the ingestion of hash, after Super O-ing all night, you wake up cumming.

It's often been spoken about on this forum but I can't impress it enough on ppl.

When I use the keysound with my version of the Schumann Resonance(pm me if you want it free, coz 'I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love' 🙂 xbox so NO headphones required, the orgasms I get are perhaps even more intense than the night before.

Download some pictures from www.pornbb.org and play it in a slideshow while you're doing your ks. Now you're playing with power!!!

What a great Thread! lots of good info in here, great to see people experimenting and trying new ways to unlock what's hiding from most men their entire sex lives. I have just recently gotten back to having time to contribute to the forum again so I wanted to toss in my financed .02 and what I've learned from combining the two.

I think the reason why Helixer is getting different results from those that smoke cannabis is that when Delta-9 THC is consumed or eaten in a food or tincture, it changes into Delta-11 THC (11-hydroxy-delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) in the liver which is a far more potent psychoactive substance than regular old THC. I haven't tried any edibles (brownies, cannabutter) so I don't have any further input on that respect. How ever from what I've read and learned over the years the D-11-THC version is 3 to 5X stronger (than THC) and as we've seen with Cosmic Muffin's experiments it can hit you hard if you aren't careful on the dose. Many people freak out or get mild panic attacks when going the edibles route...simply because it's going to be more like a body high in most cases regardless if it's a Sativa or Indica.

Myself I have had good luck with hybrid cannabis like NY Sour Diesel & AK-47... but there's others which I can't confirm that it was the strain I had or not but last year while at a get together with a bunch of old friends a good friend had what I believe to be White Widow, which is some amazing stuff.
I smoked a tiny little bud, the size of a kernel of corn...(we shared & smoked it in a pipe) and got higher than I've ever been. I got back to the hotel and when I laid down to sleep turned on my side and involutaries just started on their own, so I straightened out my right leg and brought the left leg up (one of the popular aneros positions that seems to work for most) and got raging hard, and just rode waves of pleasure for 15 minutes didn't touch my penis at all...while my prostate just spasmed... if I had the aneros in... I'm sure I would have had my first super O... it was amazing. I only enjoyed this for 15 mins because I was exhausted and passed out.
Through smoking both strains, I think the way to go is a 50/50 hybrid, (indica / sativa)... like a White Widow or AK-47..here's a small list List of cannabis Strains

I think Helixer is having really good luck as well because unfortunately when you smoke cannabis, up to half the THC is destroyed in the process of smoking it, versus when you ingest it... all of it is absorbed into the body for the most part. If you go with the hybrid you avoid the couch-lock "I need to eat a box of twinkies" situation that indicas give you, hell I don't want to do anything if I smoke it... I'm non-productive and feel disconnected. Nor do I like a straight Sativa for the insane rush it gives you with the heart racing and anxiety that follow. I'll generally smoke up half a doob then stop as soon as I feel the effects, then wait... just after you peak and start down the long backside slope of the high is usually when I feel my prostate start buzzing and humming AKA "whispering to you" (it's been posted here). That is when I get the best results using the aneros classic which I believe is known now on HIH's site as the "PS New".

I've also done experimentation with a legal substance called JWH-018, which was synthesized back in the early to mid 90's by a Dr. in NC. It's a synthetic THC, I have a buddy that makes up a nice smokable blend and treats the blend with this synthetic while it's broken down in an alcohol suspension. It's for the most part safe, has no real side effects and mimics a Sativa dominant hybrid. How ever it's easy to smoke too much and that's NOT..FUN..AT.. ALL (very unpleasant experience) It comes on really fast, and the high doesn't last as long as with the good old provided by nature cannabis it was modeled after. There's a bunch of these synthetics that he came up with, JWH-018, 073, 081, 133, 200, HU-210, Win 55 .. and others. They are good if you like to "partake" but can't due to where you work. Each one has different properties mimicking the different effects you'd get with the differences in strains.

Another thing I found by accident is incorporating focusing your energy with a session, then like you would do in something like Reiki direct it out your palms in front of you with the palms of your hands facing your genitals. You have to play with the intersection point of the energy.. and when you get it pinpointed just below your penis (in an erect state) aiming at your testicles, the feelings of pleasure get very intense and that's how I've been able to get more involutaries going.

I'm going back to the real thing that mother earth has provided for us... it lasts longer and I've gotten closer to a super O that way than any other. I hope I contributed to this thread and someone gets info / learns something from this absolutely absurd long post. I'm considering a Helix, the two Aneros models I have, the SGX and the Classic feel almost too small now the abutment tabs have been modded too much causing them to no longer "hit the spot" I was thinking progasm but I'm a short guy and think it's too long. I'm open to suggestions in that area from any of the veterans here.

I've been getting great results lately by "pulling back" my attention toward my tailbone - it's like the device finds a little "pleasure pocket" back there and becomes a vibrator within it, and then the whole rest of my erogenous pelvis becomes an emanation of pleasure out from there (including sensations of spewing my brains out, sometimes for 20, 30, 50 minutes at a time, exactly by keeping my attention pulled back). Point being: I can get these effects from either a Helix or a Eupho, but if you're a shorter guy, I can't even imagine what a Eupho could do to YOU.

Pardon me if I'm off-thread, but of course I've been toked up half the time I've been doing above, and gotten more outrageous results.

@Billy11: I've been trying it out almost every evening, and I think you're absolutely right -- there seems to be a tolerance building up, so that more drops are required per dose to get the same effect.

I'm trying a different tincture right now, a hybrid Sativa/Indica (strain not written on the bottle), and I'm spacing out the doses more, so that I'm not trying it out every evening. Hopefully I can get the dosage to stabilize at some point, so the effect stays more constant, with a constant dose.

Thanks for pointing this out (I had been wondering about this...)! So, if I want to keep the dosage to a minimum, I probably need to be a little less eager, and space my sessions out more. I think Helixer also suggested using the mj more infrequently, e.g. monthly.

BTW, as you suggest, the hybrid tincture does seem to have a different (and milder) effect. I don't like the couch-lock effect of the pure Indica (edible or tincture), so I wouldn't recommend new users start there. The Sativa tincture has not had any weird effects at all, at the low dosage, so either that, or as you recommend, the hybrid S/I, I think would be a better place for new users to start.

@Helixer: I think you've also mentioned that effects are often greater the next morning. I'm finding this to be the case, almost every time. My peak effect time seems to be about 4-5AM, which I believe is when we are most relaxed in the sleep cycle, and when the most hormones are flowing.

@d_fault: Good info, thanks!!

CM

@d_fault: True, eating is way more effective, I don't think luck comes in here though.I am lucky where I live though and the type of hash I can get here that gives me such a euphoric rush that's better than any harddrug combined with the Aneros, yes I feel the utmost beatitude for this;)

And sure there will be a difference in type of effect a type of mj is going to have, but everyone else seems to be talking about weed(derivatives) and nobody else seems to have experienced the feeling I described. It's not only better, but better beyond belief! So I'm wondering is it me, or could everyone achieve this with the right sort of hash? With the Aneros you don't wanna hard shit, you want the soft, sticky shit, with a nice pungent smell

@Tremelo: What you describe with your tailbone is the reason I'm against the word 'rewired'. You're not a robot that got his wires moved from place to the next, but it's your consciousness, your awareness increases. What dfault was talking about with reiki. Use your breathing and your consciousness to move the orgasmic feelings all round your body, don't be restricted to just the pelvic area

@cm: Yes I definitely agree you shouldn't do 420 to often. Not even so much for addictive reasons or the increasing tolerance(which I can assure you know is definitely the case) but there's more to life than getting fucked up and orgasming. Expand your horizon, learn new things and then when you get back to the magic combo you'll be putting all this (subconscious) knowledge to work. Don't get used to using mj coz this won't add anything positive to your life. Use it sparingly

The morning after effects are indeed pronounced and if you don't already use it, use the Jack Johnston's keysound with a little erotic imagery to really blow your mind!!

Well sure, Helixer, I'm always aiming for that higher level, and sometimes I get up there, a virtually psychotropic experience. But I'm not at the point I can leap up five steps at once. Getting the pelvis revved up is the step short of there, for me anyway, so I'm gonna value a strategy that gets me there, and feels so damn amazing in the process.

I'm agnostic on the "rewired" terminology. Different people probably benefit from different metaphors.

This thread has taken on a completely turn from how I was originally expecting it to develop when I started it...quite a few interesting points have passed the revue: ways of ingesting, different ways to get high and why eating is best suited for the warming up the different musles before the high sets in different levels of thc, reasons why eating hash is preferable, how the KSMO fits in the picture and last but not least; reasons why thc is so well suited for the Aneros:relaxing, increased sensitivity,libido and awareness, being high as a kite helps you visualize really out of the box!Great for solo sex interactions
So, maybe ppl here on this forum know of forums for marijuana users? If there's a big one, Aneros has to get in on the action.
I know there used to be a magazine called the High Life that used to be in some coffeeshops, perhaps they should put ads in there.
Get the marijuana community excited about the Aneros....and of course the Aneros community about marijuana!

I have used medical marijuana and the Aneros, and I have found it to be the most insanely erotic experience of my life. MJ makes me aware, almost visually in my minds eye, what is happening in my bum. I don't know much about anatomy, but I almost feel like something down there inside of me dilates and pulsates with MJ, even the day after a session. I experience sexual sensations behind my knees, on my heels, on my bottom, nipples, everything. The Aneros also syncs up with music very well with MJ.

I think it is important to come all the way down off pot before medicating again. I found I would medicate as soon as I felt it wore off a little, and the sensations from the Aneros change in a pleasureable way as the weed wears off. I ride mine on the way up (while vaporizing pot), and as it wears off. I actually don't get satisfaction from penile stimulation any more. Whether masturbating or having sex with the wife, I get satisfaction by contracting my pc muscles in various rhythyms, which causes me to make smaller involuntary thrusts that rub my wife's g-spot with my penis head until I cum. It is no longer the external penile stimulation that do anything for me, which is fine because I was a premature ejaculator. My key was to learn to say I can experience sexual pleasure without having to ejaculate. Because of the masturbation habits I developed as a young person, I treated all sexual experiences as a race to ejaculation. Just doing what feels good for me and her without feeling obligated to cum made a big diffference.

Great input BDF!
I had not such a great session today with my new Peridise beginners set. I was short on time and was distracted. But it was still 100 times better than any session I ever had without marijuana. It was highly erotic and life affirming. And like you said, it is better with good music. It's something I really look forward towards regardless if it is a dud session or not.

Last night coincidentally I used my Peridise, oh and how agile it fluttered around inside me! After some really intense sessions the previous days, I felt my asslips had been engorged a little too often(if you know what I'm saying)and was glad Aneros had had the foresight knowing that their products might create a special type of demand in- and of itself 😉

And every session again I'm reminded just how different every Aneros session is. It's strange how different 'techniques' even at different times in your journey give such radically different effects. It's almost like reading a book at different periods of your life, new elements are brought in and different parts carry different emphasis so it's almost like reading a different book.
For the past few weeks I'd been experiencing almost exclusively female orgasms, meaning slow build up of pleasure but once build up, cresting over into explosive orgasms. So yesterday I thought of bringing an old trick out the hat which would put more focus on my penis getting hard(thanks Tremelo for that suggestion) now it was like counterpunctal......now the female orgasm had changed to a blend, with the female effects slowly dwindeling away but still enough present to experience a blended orgasm while the male one was racing up and down with a much higher velocity

So, I've learnt, don't expect the effects you've experienced, even(blending) male and female orgasms, to remain the same, coz EVERYTHING CHANGES! So the next time you're sure of a certain effect, try it a few months later(or even weeks) and see if you are still so sure.

Like in life, new awareness gives different perception and new experiences to similar things.

Still, correct me if I'm wrong but a partner seems to me a limiting factor in this change, both forced to conform to preconceived perceptions of the other, both changing but for reasons of continuity conforming to the norm, making it harder to let go and fully embrace the change.

I have used medical marijuana and the Aneros, and I have found it to be the most insanely erotic experience of my life. MJ makes me aware, almost visually in my minds eye, what is happening in my bum. I don't know much about anatomy, but I almost feel like something down there inside of me dilates and pulsates with MJ, even the day after a session. I experience sexual sensations behind my knees, on my heels, on my bottom, nipples, everything. The Aneros also syncs up with music very well with MJ

I concur with this, mj naturally expands your awareness (especially the out of box variants).And once awakened(as opposed to rewired) there's no turning back!

"All is in awareness" as the Tibetan Buddhist munks say, and this is true of death and possibly even of life 😉

I see no reason to consider a session a dud. They are all experiences to be savored, and one can benefit from recognizing one' sexual respnse can work in cycles. For me, it is all about relaxing and let my body express itself.

Hash has specific qualities that make it ideally suited for the Aneros, this combined effect in turn gets enhanced by listening to this music.
Sure everyone has different taste, but this has to do with effect and its suitedness for the enhancement of the Aneros experience

Durante - Magnificat, d'Astorga - Stabat Mater, Pergolesi - Confitebor (DHMundi) isoHunt Lite the BitTorrent & P2P search engine

Bach is pretty good as well of course, but not all music is suited, this particular cd with this type of music does really fit the drug-enhanced Aneros experience, makes you float around in in similar hemispheres of the ether as they did

Disclaimer: this stuff really is addictive(not physically but this endorphin rush makes mentally more addicted than each of the two combined), I'm going to force myself to stop at least a few months now. Next time I'll just buy less and then stop again a month or two...and then I'll test myself again with a big bag of hash. Tomorrow I go fuckin' cold turkey. No more Super O's, no more shittin like a pro, gotta find myself something to do. Hopefully start fitness tomorrow again. I can't be bothered cycling to the coffeeshop so that at least is a barrier to go to often and I'll feel sad if I had to start going more often than once or twice in 2 months.

@Tremelo: I think d_fault is right -- the tincture definitely requires more dosage over time to have the same effect. I've built up a tolerance to the low dosages, and they no longer have much of an effect at all. But, from the beginning I noticed that if I take some at 8PM, nothing much happens, so I go to bed at 12AM. Right around 4AM, major prostate action kicks in, even though there is no "high" at that time either. Even low doses still have a 4AM effect. Weird stuff!

@Helixer: We have hash here in the MMJ dispensaries in California, but there are many, many different types, and a novice like myself is not sure what will work best. Plus, I don't do this often enough to try every kind. There is a hard-like-glass type, there is a soft-like-earwax type, there is a powdery type, and a whipped/oxygenated squishy type (budder). And, all of these can come in either Sativa or Indica or Hybrid type. Most are meant to be turned into a vapor with some heat and then inhaled -- I find it very interesting that you are taking it with food! I may give that a try: Aneros + hash + music (with binaural beats?)....Sounds like we're getting a little complicated here, but it's intriguing... 🙂

@Helixer: It sounds like the hash you are using is a crumbly type (the kind you can break apart with your fingers) or a powdered type, right? I can't imagine that the other types would be capable of being "sprinkled" on your chocolate or yogurt. 🙂 It also sounds like they don't make a big deal where you are about the particular strain used to make the hash either, like they do here.

At the dispensaries here, the strains are considered like the variants of grapes are considered in fine wine! The majority are labeled as to strain name (e.g. "White Widow" mentioned above, etc.), indica vs sativa vs hybrid (the hybrids can be labeled with a percent S vs I), and many are also labeled with percentages of THC and CBD, too.

That's why you're getting so many specific questions about exactly what you're using with the Aneros! 🙂

Perhaps, its the advantage of being a gray area, maybe the coffeeshops here add a little something extra to the mix. So, if the hash in California doesn't do much more than the weed you should consider coming over to Holland I'll tell you where I get my shit, coz it really is great stuff!
Can't wait till next month or two.

I don't use any binaural beats with the Aneros, only with the ksmo to block out the backgroundnoice. I listen mainly to baroque or other relaxing classical.Follow the suggestion I posted above for starters 🙂

Hey Cosmic, like I said, at least in my case, I've been able to maintain an extremely low tolerance for years.

And don't even get me started on Aneros + smoke + binaural beats. (Sometimes I add aural porn into the mix.)

Though, interestingly, I've just in the last month gotten into the zone where I don't *need* any of those extra variables to fly as high as I can bear. It's been quite liberating, since I'd been leaning on all those crutches for so long. (Which is not to fault crutches.)

Hey Cosmic, like I said, at least in my case, I've been able to maintain an extremely low tolerance for years.

I'm not sure I understand how you manage to retain your low tolerance....frequency of dose? strain? method of dose? amount of dose? Or, is it something genetic?

And don't even get me started on Aneros + smoke + binaural beats. (Sometimes I add aural porn into the mix.)

I'd actually love to hear about your experiences in mixing these modalities! (perhaps in a different thread, so we don't hijack this one any further?).

I do seem to be making progress, but it seems to come at weird intervals. So, I'm just chilling out, and taking whatever comes my way, and basically "playing around with this stuff". I figure eventually I'll hit some combination of Aneros mods, MJ, sound, body position, etc. that works best for my body. The cannabis definitely helped me get the involuntaries going, and now I'm finding it easier to listen to each new prostate feeling as it comes my way (oh THERE is an interesting spot that I didn't notice before -- let's see what happens with this one...etc. :-).

Cosmic, your last paragraph sounds like you're on exactly the right track. I'm *still* finding new "interesting spots," despite all my tremendous progress. And just lately, I no longer need any additional stimuli (beats, porn, smoke) to fly so high (though smoke still makes a real difference). In your case, if you like, check out my "most essential asset" thread about a page back in the forums for my take on binaural beats. They got me where I get today.

As for maintaining susceptibility, I'd say it's just because I pretty consistently smoke the bare minimum. (If I'm flying with an Aneros, two tokes for every hour or so, which usefully re-fires my libido). I'll skip days sometimes, and so forth All so I can maintain a basic binary "am I high or not?" that requires very little smoke to answer "yes." I started working my way toward this about 15 years ago (after ten years of "excess") and have not found it difficult. I suppose it's like the Aneros experience itself - we become increasingly aware of the subtleties over time, requiring less of the stimuli for comparable rewards.

By the way, to answer and factor out another of your questions, but my substance varies according to which country I'm in at the time. Some months it's black, others are green, but the only condition is that it be "good." Bland quality turns my whole equation above on its head. But some meaningful quality? Then I require very very little of it. Perhaps this is the missing variable that makes my goals and practice work.

@Tremelo: Aural porn? How do you do this?sample from porns? I'm interested in your way of doing this

I think there are basically 2 types of ppl, those who like accoustic sound and those who like electronic sound. To me there's a harshness to the sound as opposed to the richness of an accoustic instrument. This is obviously not anything intellectual but just a matter of taste.( I like fucking about on a synthesizer though. Or playing around with drumcomputers)
I think people that like electronic music are at an advantage here, as the binaural and the electronic music perhaps combined with aural porn would be enough to keep it from boring or being disturbing.

Still there's something intrinsically relaxing to a lot of baroque music so that makes the binaural beats superfluous anyway and combined with hash and the Aneros it's almost a transcedental experience.

We're all adults here, so I guess everyone can make their own mind up about the frequency of use. The last time I used it, it was against my own rules, binary as you say, thru out the week. Sure it was great everytime, but I did fuck all allday and all I was doing was completely focussed on orgasms.
I personally prefer the idea of a special event, like a ritual cleansing, when it becomes normal it looses its shine. Besides the fact that for me it takes at least a week to recover and things go from slow motion back to normal again.

Anyways, let me know about your method for the aural porn. The classic german porn is a little to crude. I need a better way to incorporate this crucial ingredient into the mix.

Mainly just extracting the soundtracks from vids and loading them into my iPods. Have fooled with some more exotic sampling/multi-tracking with GarageBand, but it's too inefficient to bother with. Often ratchet down the bass to filter "him" out. The easiest solution for many of you would be just to play back your vid in your favorite viewer with your favorite sound/speed settings, and simply listen to it rather than watch it.

Instead of trying to filter him out, with lesbian porn you don't have that problem!

When I want to experience a very good session I usually smoke some good bud sour diesel & I usually always get involuntary orgasm after I smoke very strong ones so my prostate is literally begging for a touch so when it gets to that point so far the my progasm ice has always done the trick I relax & breathe way easier while being high & the sensations are that much greater so doing the do nothing method takes me to the Oh my god level very quickly once I just let the progasm move on its own by relax my anal muscles it just pounds my prostate like crazy my eyes roll back of my head best feeling in the world I don't know how much time has passed every stress you had just leaves your body in such a delicious way so pretty much its a must try weed & aneros lovely combo.