Anal Electro Stimulation

I've tried e-stim (but not with a probe), and had mixed results. Overall I didn't like the experience I had with the equipment I was using. Too many uncomfortable pin-prick sensations. It was as if I had to endure the pain long enough to become numb to it, before I could enjoy it.
There were areas and pad arrangements that weren't painful, but every session would include some moments of a pad slipping loose and "ooo-OOOOH MY GOD TURN IT OFFFFF". Which, on balance, outweighed the pleasure.

So for me, experimenting with pad positions and different settings is off the table. I'd only consider trying e-stim again under certain conditions - A purpose-made probe, with it's own built-in power box, that has presets that won't hurt or sting, that's tested to be safe and doesn't cost as much as a Playstation.

I'd be worried about the long term affects of sending current across my prostate, and there aren't many companies I trust enough to research it, given the questionable materials being used out there.

@TekWiz @inhope @xtimedt69 @Alex_xxx @isvara @Pareidolia @Thruster @searawcatcher @Trei @BigGlandsDC @rook @rumel Hey guys just thought I would tag you guys in as you have shown interest in estim before. Hope you dont mind.



Link to device in discussion:
http://www.electrastim.co.uk/acatalog/ElectraStIm-Silicone-Noir-Electro-Prostate-Massager-EM3104.html






Yes your correct @ten_s_nut there is a lot of interest and you have beaten me to the punch with your discussion. I have bought the Electrastim Sirius prostate stimulator too but am waiting for it to arrive.
I did this because of @xtimedt69 s recommendation as we both have been playing with estim.
We had a rhino device which did not do much for xtimedt69 but has been good for me after I have worked out how to get around all the issues with it. (It cheap) With estim you get what you pay for!
It would seem I have talked another couple of guys into getting into it as well.
I use the TENS unit too as it was the best deal at the time.


For those that have a power box and a aneros tempo, hook one pad to the tempo handle and the other to the top of your crack. If you have two channels on your power box put the other pad set, one on your perineum and figure out some sort of metal cock ring for just under your penis gland (Helmet).
A pad will sort of work but it sucks compared to a ring!
Keep the settings low and use a rhythmic wave form and you will love it.


IMPORTANT
FOR GOOD ESTIM RESULTS you need to follow 2 rules.
1. Always use lots of lube. (LOTS) Inject it up your rear.And coat the parts where the probe is going to be touching the skin. The exception to the rule is if it is a pad as they have there own sticky stuff but make sure its in good repair.
2. Always make sure all connections are good and sound. If a probe connection comes loose it will hurt!
GOOD CONDUCTIVE CONNECTIONS AND LUBE MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!
Loose connections or lack of conductive lube produces prickly burning feelings through to fuck me rip the wire out! b-(


@Clenchy Sounds like this was the problem with your experience. I have been there too!
Considering your brain and spine and muscles all use current across them every moment it should not hurt you unless you turn it up way way too high that you strain your muscles. But like using lubes of all type guess we wont know for sure.


I started a thread 6 months ago asking Aneros to create a Aneros estim probe but I guess they have been too slow and Electrastim Sirius prostate stimulator has beaten them to the gate.
Maybe now they will stand up and think about it. 😛
(Will expect a free device when produced for the suggestion Aneros) 😀
@Aneros2 @CT Proof of suggestion
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/15619/who-wants-a-estim-aneros-probe-model-from-aneros#Item_30


Estim opens up a new world too there are lots of devices to use.
One scary one is Penis Sounding with estim.
I have not tried it yet but thinking about trying sounding first before estim is added.
Sounding = sticking a metal rod in your penis hole. :O
It can be a risky thing to do! But Men and women do do it for pleasure.


Anyway look in to estim of the prostate, maybe its not for you but as ten_s_nut said it does do wonders for some session in waking up the prostate as it does for me too.
I often wonder if it would help newbies once they reach the p-wave stage?

From the start of aneros two years ago, I thought getting some sort of mechanical movement would help. After all involuntaries are graet. They stim the Prostate. So does estim like ghost fucking. Low power is the key. The temptation is to turn it up. For me that shuts it down.

Low power is sweet

Would an e-stim work to help reconnect/rejuvenate damaged nerves due to extensive disc bulging? I don't have a lot of feeling left in my anal-rectal region, and was wonder if this would help.

@Badger, interesting. Flexing of the muscles along the spine may not be helpful. There seem to be three wave forms. TENS that camouflages pain, EMS that is supposed to strengthen muscles so a person can flex them. Electro Sexual Stim - which is anyone's guess. There is a lot of info te TENS and EMS around. EMS is used by athletes . There is also a Russian wave form. EMS wave forms are used to tone up anal, vaginal and urinary incontinence muscles. So it may be helpful. I will probably get the unit that leads this thread. But will try to work with my EMS unit. I believe the professional units are not available in the US without a script, Electro Sex ones are of course.
http://veritymedical.co.uk/Products/5/NeuroTrac®+Sports+XL
For some light reading. The manual will give more details.. This is the sport version.

@Badger further to @isvara 's comments this is the unit I bought here in Australia.
http://www.physiosupplies.com.au/neurotrac-digital-tens-and-stim-machine-rehab.html
It does TENS and EMS It has some modes where I can actually program EMS and TENS sessions if I want. It is very powerful. My health fund paid for most of it for alleviating pain from my accident.
I dont know if it would help you. You should maybe ask your doctor or whatever.
I dont know about the laws where you live but here in Australia anyone can buy one, no script needed.
If you need a script whats stopping you from buying overseas?
In Australia the rules are the unit must work on batteries, it is not allowed to be plugged into the wall.

@braveneworld, nice unit. Mine is only a EMS, from the same suppliers. Are you willing to say what are the settings that work for you?

@isvara The new probe arrived today and it is loaded up and doing its thing.It does not feel as comfortable as my progasm, the pressure is in a different place but then I maybe able to adjust the base. I have had it in five minutes and my dick is drooling precum everywhere.
It is giving me erection after erection.
I have gas tonight to which is not helping things.
So I dont know as i am sort of playing with it but program 7 is 10Hz 50 micro sec then 85Hz 250 micro sec
It is just alternating like that and the thing is pumping and every now and then i am forced to suck the thing right in hard.
Its going to be a long night trying different settings. That setting is good thought!

Tonight is not a good night I just had to rip it out and purge my bowl again. Now it feels better more comfortable. Think i too many nuts :)Now I am on program 8 or 9 not sure but it is just 200Hz 50 micro sec. thats good too.
Its going to take a few nights of use to get it right but so far it does not matter what i have it on it just keeps pumping my muscles and i just keep leaking precum I am having orgasm after orgasm but it maybe a while till i am fully comfortable with it. I will sign off and get into it now and get back to everyone later when i am spent! 8-}

Gents;

The Electrastim Sirius seems to work well with almost any setting on my TENS 3000. 100 ms pulse width, 70 Hz frequency and about half power, 40 ma, is very good. Other settings may be better. We'll see.

Cheers,

Dave

@ten_s_nut, @baveneworld, in searching the web for months you are the first folk to ever give any actual settings. Thank you for that. Currently (ha ha) 15hz 300ms constant less than 20ma is soothing. That probe is a must have. My modified Temp is interesting as a mono pole. I insulated the stem with nail polish and stick a pad on the base. But requires a pad elsewhere. Please note, my Prostate is still in the process of awakening so still skirting around the edge.

@braveneworld so tonight I decided just to check my estim was working, not had a session yet. I got the estim set with the Sirius etc

So I plugged the electrodes into the massager, turned on the device and put the power on to see if I could feel anything on my skin. I'm probably being dense here in saying this, I know it's not a vibrator but I expected feel something, instead nothing? even on a setting of 25(max/extreme level) it made an audible noise but no feeling when I touched it of any kind. I know it's subtle, but I didn't think it would be THAT subtle. setting 1 and 25 are the same, except setting 25 makes a buzzing electrical sound, nothing more.

I know it's a series of electrical impulses but I have to wonder why it doesn't feel like something when on just normal skin. The instructions arnt too detailed IMO.

Also do you think shea butter as a lube with be conductive enough? I cannot use other lubes as I am allergic, even the water based stuff, weird I know.

@inhope. Some control boxes turn off if the circuit is open. Mine turns off the electrode current and indicates it on the screen. It may be that there is wire to electrode problem.

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=87079

Stuff like this has put me off, I'm going to return it... If they will let me, I've not used it.

@inhope dont freak out.that guy obviously was using a urethral sound, which you stick down you dick hole.1. down the page he admits he did not sterilize the rod which will give you a urinary tract infection.
2. He turned it up flat out.
3.he used a home made sound
Basicly he did everything wrong!

Thanks for the link though I think I might give urethral sounding a miss but electro anal will be fine as long as you dont go overboard.. As we said Low Settings just to guide the muscles.
Its like using music to follow the beat. Your muscles follow it but because it is electricity it slightly aids it.
Having said all that I respect your decision. It not for everyone you have to comfortable with what your doing.

Isvara is correct. If its not all in place and has good connections the box turns off or to 0 power for safty.

@inhope, as you wish. They should have used battery acid as a lube and done it properly! "Look mum I can now wee from my tummy button!"
Urethral play has so many warnings about care and sterilized equipment. A urethral probe and an anal probe at the same time, wow, talk about a short circuit!
Seriously, I am focussed on my Progasm Jnr I am moving forward again. I think I had a Prostate O in my sleep last night! So perhaps my Sub is conditioning my brain for a new experience. My estim is an incidental along the way.
Best of luck. I admire your tenacity and persistence in reaching your goal.

@inhope dont freak out.that guy obviously was using a urethral sound, which you stick down you dick hole.1. down the page he admits he did not sterilize the rod which will give you a urinary tract infection.
2. He turned it up flat out.
3.he used a home made sound
Basicly he did everything wrong!

Thanks for the link though I think I might give urethral sounding a miss but electro anal will be fine as long as you dont go overboard.. As we said Low Settings just to guide the muscles.
Its like using music to follow the beat. Your muscles follow it but because it is electricity it slightly aids it.
Having said all that I respect your decision. It not for everyone you have to comfortable with what your doing.

Isvara is correct. If its not all in place and has good connections the box turns off or to 0 power for safty.

I've been on chat as well, rook used a similar device and hurt himself badly with it,vsimilar device to, damaged himself when an electrode fell out. No thanks.

One thing @braveneworld can you,post a photo of how the electrodes connect up correctly to the massager?

Voted "no way, never".

@inhope i tried to attach a file but neither .bmp of .jpg will load on the forum. The forum has issues!Anywho....
the back two holes push one red and one black pair in (channel 1)
The front two holes identical as the rear but with channel 2.
This is how i did it last night first.
Now heres the thing each channel is isolated meaning the electric current travels from the red to the black on that one set of wires so in the configuration i just mentioned the current travel from left to right or right to left on the steam and the same on the perineum for the other channel.
In this configuration channel 1 controls the steam and channel 2 controls the perineum.

If you think of those 4 holes as just little metal pads that dont touch each other then you can actually wire it up however you like.
If you put the red wires in the back two holes and the black two wires in the front holes the current will travel from back to front or steam to perineum. (Each channel will control one side of the probe)
Or if you get fancy and crossover one set of wires so that a wire from each channel is on either side of the probe and one in the front one in the back and vice versa like a X the the current will travel left to right but front to back at the same time. (you get current going say front to back but across the probe to the other side.)
Experiment you can not get it wrong! Just make sure the plugs are plugged in well so they dont come out.
In the second two examples you would want to have the box channels at the same setting all the time.
The first setup is best coz you can set the steam a little higher than the perineum stim.
I had the steam at 12 out of 100 and the perineum at 7 out of 100.

Hope that all made sense?
Stick with the first setup if unsure for total control.

@rook would be interested in hearing your story on what happened to you when a wire came loose?

@isvara No problems I guess most devices dont actually show what frequencies are being produced so no one can say. But my box shows it so there is no reason not to share 😉 Oh and by the way @inhope I am only riding my maximus tonight coz my muscles are a little sore after 4 hours of estim last night. For about 1 minute of that I wound the box up just short of full just for kicks.
Sexual pain can be sort of fun if you have control. But after your link today I wont do that again.
My worry before i started all this estim was the electricity could burn me inside too.
I have had a bad connection on the end of my cock because i used (alfoil) It stung like a bitch but shut off.
Morel of the story dont be cheap and get proper gear 🙂

im not confident with this stuff tbh, it sounds risky plus i feel it may negatively effect my current rewiring which is going well.

braveneworld;

4 hours of e-stim? My TENS 3000 has a switch for 15, 30 and unlimited minutes on it. I'm pretty sure 30 minutes is plenty and the infinite setting should only be used with an alarm clock set to 1 hour nearby. I don't know if these devices can cause permanent nerve damage. Might not be a good idea to be the lab rat in an amateur science project. Of course, it's your body, your call.

Cheers,

Dave

@ten_s_nut I hear you. My average aneros session is minimum 3 hours to 11.5 hours.So it sort of does not seem long at all. Depending on the wave form on my tens unit it could be 2 hour program to 5 hours.
I just get in the zone and can not leave if you know what I mean.
The setting is on 10 to 12 out of 100 for the for the steam and 6 to 7 out of 100 for the perineum so as you can see the settings are low real low.
The soreness that I experienced is the same as if I rode tempo for 8 to 10 hours or progasm.
I can ride eupho or maximus almost 24 hours if I wanted too. Which I do want to but life gets in the way.
One must live life still while balancing aneros sessions or it will consume you.
It just depends on where you draw the line I suppose.
I cant work due to injury so I can do what I want when I want all be it with hardly any money.

Thats the difference with a TENS unit to a dedicate sex box.
A TENS unit is designed for you to wear on your belt and stim you while you walk around although I never have.
I must admit going to sleep might not be a good idea with it on but then I never have coz I am too busy orgasming. If I am just riding progasm I have gone to sleep often only to be waken in two to three hours from a orgasm and some time a Super O. Dont know why the difference maybe I just dont get to relax so much.
My first ever ride with progasm I fell asleep till morning and was very sore indead. I also ran out of lube making things worse. I always use vaseline now with waterbase just incase.
I am a aneros progasm/maximus and estim slut so it would seem 😉

@braveneworld, Well we will see. I ordered a unit as I felt it better (safer) to use a purpose built unit. Alfoil indeed!. I did not realise they come from the UK so may take a while, but considering another local shop was nearly double the price (AU$159 +postage) we will see what is in the box. The big challenge was to find a lube that was okay. Local shops charge the earth. I discovered UltraSound Gel works and considering I can get 5 litres for AU$29 including postage its worth a try. It may not be quite as good - but I will have lots to play with! Thank you for the info. I just find a bit estim a change and it only enhances my Aneros experience. I do find that as per the info internal current is usually greater than pads. I think is because there is better contact over a larger area. Bye the way my progress seems to be accelerating but I am not over the hill yet.

@isvara if your in Australia Lovehoney.com.au seemed the best as there is free freight if you spend more than $40. I waited until Australia day when they had a sale. A whole 25% off which brought it down to 70 odd dollars.Yes i was surprised that it came from UK but it only took a week so was quite happy and you get a email so you can track its progress. Will get a link for the lube I get but its only cheap if you are here in Australia.

@isvara this is the lube I use. http://glydehealth.com/products/premier-lubricant/I buy the 500ml ones from here http://www.spongeandfun.com/Shop/tabid/55/CategoryID/1/ProductID/49/language/en-US/Default.aspx

I buy 1.5 liters or two liters. I cant remember coz it lasts so long I have not bought some for maybe two years. At checkout you can work out how much to buy so you keep the freight down. I buy the 500ml bottles because they 50 cents cheaper and easier to handle than the 1 liter bottles.
They do a 5 liter bottles for $44, Cheaper but hell I would not buy more lube for 5 or 6 years.Very difficult to handle too.
500ml just makes sense. I will get the bottle and list the ingredients latter for you.
It has stuff that some people cant use but I find it wonderful.

This is what I ordered contains.
Aqua, Propylene Glycol, Carbomer, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Sodium Hydroxide, EDTA, CI 42051
I hope there is nothing too bad in it. I notice paraben - Ah well we will see. I don't use it often.

@isvara you will have to use it heaps if you want to get through 5 litres.LOLMaybe you can pour a litre in the bathtub, get naked and just slide around for fun.LOL
Let us know what you think of the probe when it arrives.