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Has anyone, re-wired or not, done Alexander Technique or related body awareness technique (Feldenkrais) before or after their re-wiring?

I ask because I myself did a year of Alexander Technique in my early 20s, and for the last decade have used it as a go to for healing in times of tense muscles. The technique is the art of non-doing, or the utilization of the fewest and most efficient muscles to perform everyday tasks (please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read up on it for 10 years, and have just adapted it to my life and my own concept of how to move throughout space). I discovered involuntary muscle contractions through the technique, in a fully non-erotic way. Just muscle tremors, as I relax.

My rewiring went quick-- in 10 sessions over a month and a half I started having orgasms, and soon thereafter I started having aless. Now, several months later I have disassociated orgasms completely from my penis and from ejaculation. Most of my pleasure happens coupled with acute awareness of my muscles and their tension throughout my body.

I can't help thinking that Alexander Technique was an enormous stepping stone towards my rewiring.

To give an idea of a common exercise I learned from my Alexander Technique teacher: I lie on my back, knees bent, an inch thick book propping up my head, and I slowly scan my body from my toes to my head, and relax muscles as I go. Often it requires a me to clench a muscle to become aware of where it is, and then I can relax it completely (with resulting involuntary spasms, very often). To relax my whole body requires about 15 minutes.

This body awareness or body listening is essential for my prostate pleasure. The idea of listening to a certain muscle group, gaging its tension, relaxing, clenching... except for the lack of the erotic aspect, the nerve stimulation and the sensory amplification, that is much of what prostate orgasms are about for me.

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Hey @divine_oblivion ,

This body awareness or body listening is essential for my prostate pleasure. The idea of listening to a certain muscle group, gaging its tension, relaxing, clenching... except for the lack of the erotic aspect, the nerve stimulation and the sensory amplification, that is much of what prostate orgasms are about for me.

This!

Often it requires a me to clench a muscle to become aware of where it is, and then I can relax it completely (with resulting involuntary spasms, very often). To relax my whole body requires about 15 minutes.

You got a good point here. Relaxation is very important and @rumel usually shares a lot of threads regarding this topic. I forgot where and when I rambled about this, so I type it out again real quick: IMHO orgasm is a reflex of our nervous system which kicks in, when a certain threshold of arousal is reached. Muscle tension is a factor regarding this threshold, so with too much muscle tension too early, your body will trigger orgasm without much arousal in your nerve endings being built up. Learning to build up arousal while leaving the muscles relaxed, allows for way higher levels of nerval arousal before the threshold is reached - thus Super-O's.

Thoughts? Ideas? Proponents? Naysayers? Say-neigh-ers?

I never tried the Feldenkrais method myself, but it's plausible to me. Every kind of conscious bodywork seems highly beneficial (yoga comes to mind).

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Seems plausible to me too. I’ve not thought about this kind of thing before. I’ve always believed emptying the mind of tension, like the way you describe emptying your muscles of tension, is the only obstacle facing the strugglers on here. The thing is,sometimes I like to gyrate/bounce slightly when on my back or stood,or rock back and forth when I’m on hands and knees,which I’m sure means a fair few muscles have tension in them,but I guess my belief is strong enough now that tension need not get in the way. However,I’m always looking for new directions,so ima give this technique a bash,although I suspect already,I’ll enjoy it.


   
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@Unfug I forgot to add this.. I have also considered yoga as a good activity to partake in. I think it may run along side the journey very nicely indeed.


   
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IMHO Awareness is the key word. I can absolutely agree to recommend Alexander technique, Qi-gong and Yoga - sorted only by alphabetical order. As I believe they’ve been very helpful on my journey. Cheers, Mart


   
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@SOwithoutAneros You do yoga mart? A class or at home? Don’t think I could take a class full of middle aged women ;).


   
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@Unfug thank you for that interesting insight. I have long been using techniques of edging, which require a certain amount of relaxation. Recently I read rumels ruminations and found a post on continuous orgasms, and have been doing that a lot. Your response made me think and analyze what I was doing. Build arousal, then tip the arousal with tension... Now I have figured out how to, while masturbating traditionally, have dry orgasms over and over again.

I use the continuous orgasm method of masturbating, by edging (9.5/10) and keeping my pc muscles relaxed to avoid ejaculation. Then after I’ve built up enough arousal, I clench my buttocks or thighs or other surrounding muscles, while keeping he PCs relaxed. This differing of muscle tension allows for enough tension to throw me over the edge into an orgasm BUT prevents ejaculation. Result: dry orgasms, as many as I can handle. As strong as any aneros induced orgasm (but with a little less mystery because of the penile contact and general control). Much stronger than what the guy describes in the continuous orgasm article (I think he says it is half the sensation of a normal orgasm, but continuous. I have full dry orgasms, from that continuous blissful plateau...). Reference below:

http://www.articlesfactory.com/articles/sexuality/continuous-male-orgasms.html


   
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Hey @divine_oblivion ,

thx for referring the article, I skimmed over it. This technique seems a bit different from what I do. You may find this thread quite interesting. I try to avoid tension / swelling of the seminal vesicles and prostate - thus no edging. IMHO, the reaction of the inner sex organs is due to a direct connection of these with the penis, more specifically with the frenulum.That's why you usually just can't approach orgasm w/o approaching ejaculation as well. Consequently, that's why anerosing is multi-orgasmic by nature: you build arousal w/o provoking the swelling / ejaculation-reaction in your inner sex organs.

Then after I’ve built up enough arousal, I clench my buttocks or thighs or other surrounding muscles, while keeping he PCs relaxed. This differing of muscle tension allows for enough tension to throw me over the edge into an orgasm BUT prevents ejaculation.

That's a very interesting approach - I'll have to try that soon. This may come in very handy if one get swept away during partnered sex. 🙂 As far as I found out, you can clench almost any muscle in the pelvic floor except the PC muscle in order to re-route arousal away from your seminal vesicles.

I have full dry orgasms, from that continuous blissful plateau.

That's great, kudos to you! My penile dry orgasms are rather classic and non-continuous. I totally have to learn that skill now. 🙂


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The thing is,sometimes I like to gyrate/bounce slightly when on my back or stood,or rock back and forth when I’m on hands and knees,which I’m sure means a fair few muscles have tension in them,but I guess my belief is strong enough now that tension need not get in the way.

I overlooked this the last time. This is a very interesting point you raise here. Small bounces don't seem to be a problem for me either. Maybe because moving / bouncing around releases tension instead of storing it.

I like pelvic rocking a lot (for me, it's more effective than nipple diddling). In fact, I often build up arousal to the point of orgasm which originates in the sacrum / lower back. That is roughly where the pudental nerve leaves the spine, so I guess that's no coincidence!

There is also something I don't quite understand yet: it seems, that you can build up immense tension in your muscles w/o triggering orgasms but instead raise the stakes for a bigger orgasm respectively escalating the arousal feedback loop to higher spheres. For me, that happens very rarely. Normaly, more musclework means rather early triggered and underwhelming intensitiy orgasms for me. I just don't understand what makes the difference here. The only thing that comes to my mind is surrendering: pushing vs. getting pulled. Because too much conscious musclework is often the result of (deliberately) pushing. On the other hand, emotional surrendering (thus allowing to get pulled), almost never leads to tension in the muscles but to utter relaxation instead. :/


   
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