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Hi everyone. I am relatively new to this journey. About a month and a half in. I posted my first topic maybe a week ago asking if what I felt was normal/super o territory. I was having pleasure build up that would then progress from shaking to violent convulsions. In that post it was suggested that these were super o’s and as I would progress they could change and potentially settle down and or transform. These all happened with an aneros device. Usually the mgx or progasm

 

i had heard about aless orgasms and had tried myself without any device and while I was able to generate some p waves that was about it. Until two nights ago. I had went to bed, no aneros session that day and had done some fooling around with the wife but nothing that had led to ejaculation either. About an hour into my sleep I all of a sudden woke up and all I remember is noticing how hard I was and then all of a sudden this orgasmic wave coming over me that felt like I was cumming for minutes with a ton of involuntaries shaking and trembling but no convulsions and a calm type of pleasure that lasted for who knows long. When it ended I remember thinking how “beautiful and amazing” it was and couldn’t believe that just happened aless. I was also excited to see if I could reproduce this or expand on this when I was using a device

 

i tried yesterday to completely relax and fall asleep with the device but could never really lead to anything for about 45 minutes to an hour. I then tried to start some voluntary pf contractions and started to get involuntaries that built up. However they built back up to the same pleasurable but violent convulsions. I am wondering if anyone else has this experience and if so how can they produce those aless calm orgasms with the aneros. Or is maybe the aneros overloading and over stimulating the prostate compared to aless and that is why my body is responding like that and with time the body/brain will not have such a hypersensitive reaction with the aneros in?


   
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Try and not clench the aneros at all... try and release it always back to the start position...

If we can have super O without the aneros that tells us that the prostate doesn't need much stimulation. So every time you start to squeeze the aneros try release it back to it is barely touching the prostate.... so often it's easy to squeeze hard with the aneros but that's over doing it...

Since becoming rewired I actually don't have many aneros sessions anymore... much prefer Aless... nothing better then doing it at night and drifting off to sleep.

Another huge tip is to stop masturbation... sex with wife or aless or aneros only... will greatly improve all sessions  


   
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Thanks for the response. When you say stop clenching do you mean going back to baseline anchored tension or completely relax? I find when things build I have to try so hard to consciously relax that it takes me out of it. Conversely in order to build it over the edge I need to clench. I try not to do overclench but it builds and I try to resist until I can’t and I get these violent convulsions which are not as pleasurable as the aless I had that night 


   
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To take it back to the inserted position... sounds like you just need to work on the mental side of stuff... its as much if not more mental that it is physical... (can be seen by having orgasims with no aneros even in).

Work on meditation and breathing stuff.

I agree the hard clenching is terrible and doesn't achieve much at all.... the best sessions are when I can keep the aneros at like 10-20% of a contraction..


   
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I'm still not 100% sure about the relation between the "calm seas" and "rough seas" orgasms. To me they are on different tracks and are not just a harder and softer version of the same thing. So getting calm seas is not just about being gentler with what you are doing, it appears to be a different mindset. Since I get so few calm seas, maybe I'm wrong on this... Basically, my rough seas feel like the essence of sex and lust,  while calm seas are more about happiness and being content.  

The various Aneros models really have a leverage effect, so if a certain balance is needed, like between relaxation and arousal for example, it's going to be harder to dial this in if you have some leverage on arousal but none on relaxation. Progasm will also give more leverage than MGX.

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Or is maybe the aneros overloading and over stimulating the prostate compared to aless and that is why my body is responding like that and with time the body/brain will not have such a hypersensitive reaction with the aneros in?

Since you seem to be one of the lucky "hyper-responders", and you're still new to this, it makes sense that you don't have the subtle control yet to go as light as you would need with the Aneros, and your body has no idea on how to dose the involuntaries so they are not overwhelming. This is part of the learning process, practice makes perfect. 


   
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this makes perfect sense and definitely helps my understanding. Can’t wait to keep practicing!

 


   
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Rough seas vs calm seas are different mindsets. Calms seas is akin to making love to my wife,enjoying sharing a relaxing sensuality,loving experience,being happy together and I’m happy and relaxed in a calm seas,floating along enjoying the sensations.

Many a time,i didn’t want to make love,I wanted to fuck her for my pleasure,selfish,no real regard for her pleasure,just mine,of course this gave her much pleasure,but mine was the goal. A rough seas super-o is all about gratuitous pleasure. Orgasming,hard,for me,because I want it,I need it. 


   
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I wonder if there is a relationship between aless and calm seas vs using a device and more rough seas due to the physical stimulations with the device 


   
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In my opinion,no. Some of my roughest and best Super-o have been A-Less. Plus,on one of my big ones,my wife took the aneros out of my ass in the middles of a super-o and I just carried on,I’d not noticed it had been removed,but I was far gone. I guess it depends on one’s psyche on the day.

 


   
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I wonder if there is a relationship between aless and calm seas vs using a device and more rough seas due to the physical stimulations with the device 

There might be one, after all we could expect a Progasm session to hit harder than a Peridise one.

But with Aless things get a little bit weird. One thing that happens to me from time to time is zoning out, then regaining focus on things and not remembering which model I decided to use, then realizing that I'm doing Aless. Obviously this all happens in an instant, but sometimes my body is really copying sensations from using the devices and I can't really feel the difference.  

 


   
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There might be one, after all we could expect a Progasm session to hit harder than a Peridise one.

The only skepticism I have about that is a lot of people don’t get on with the progasm,surely it’s sheer size and stimulation capability would guarantee orgasm if this was the case. And ‘bigger doesn’t mean better’ is often touted around here. Also,by this thinking,a eupho wouldn’t be capable of producing anything stronger than a calm seas. Toy or A-Less,i believe orgasm power is only limited by the mental side of our journey progress. 

 


   
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There might be one, after all we could expect a Progasm session to hit harder than a Peridise one.

The only skepticism I have about that is a lot of people don’t get on with the progasm,surely it’s sheer size and stimulation capability would guarantee orgasm if this was the case. And ‘bigger doesn’t mean better’ is often touted around here. Also,by this thinking,a eupho wouldn’t be capable of producing anything stronger than a calm seas. Toy or A-Less,i believe orgasm power is only limited by the mental side of our journey progress. 

 

Of course, I mean I'm not a huge Progasm fan myself, and 90% of my device sessions are Eupho and it packs enough punch to satisfy, so it's not about that. Maybe wrong choice of words on my part. But if I was using a Progasm and felt that the sensations were too intense, then switching to Eupho would make sense, and if this was still too much, then A-less it would be.

I don't remember ever having a calm-seas session with the Progasm, but I did have rough seas A-less or with the Peridise.   

 


   
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But if I was using a Progasm and felt that the sensations were too intense, then switching to Eupho would make sense

You always make sense mate. It’s nice to compare brain pans. I just don’t believe,more and more ,that there is such a thing as ‘can’t’ or ‘impossible’ on this journey. I don’t think there is anything you can’t do with any toy,or no toy.

 


   
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I only have the Progasm.

Last night I had a super session of about 2 hours of constant floating in bliss... each "session" lasted about 30 minutes then I came out of the trance state.. had some water and went back into it.

A few times the calm seas started to turn into rough seas where I started to tense up and twitch... both times this happend I just took super deep breaths and really tried to relax and was able to turn off the rough seas and into calm pure bliss... its almost as if when rough you are clenching the aneros onto the prostate and building pleasure... when you now release all the pleasure built up leaves the prostate and into the body.

So think as a couple others said here it's very much mental and learning how to control the pleasure that comes and understanding it (if you can have aless that proves its mental as there is no physical contact on the prostate). 

(Note thus was a thc session so pleasure is already 10x what it is sober)

I made a mental note yesterday to just always relax at the start and always have the aneros at base level doing nothing and tried to just relax non stop anytime I felt any contracting. The pleasure builds slowly and is not so bang bang. And if the pleasure got big I tried to turn it into calm pleasure and not so intense (the buzzing I wanted to be melow and not in your face).

Once I got deep into the session a huge thing I would say is to just think about the pleasure and not what is happening... don't think am I contacting... is it moving... who cares what it is doing.... just focus on the pleasure waves..  keeping them calm and moving them around your body to where you want them. Once you start thinking about what the aneros is doing... then you lose it. I tried to think.... the aneros and my body is in charge... not my mind.. so shut my mind off don't think and just enjoy where it takes me... I am just a passenger on the journey.

So to sum it up... so much is mental.


   
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I also wonder and maybe I’m off here if age plays a role in the type. Like maybe as you age you’re focus is more on relaxing and pleasure and that leads to the calm seas where as younger is more energetic and eager. Or I could be way off base lol


   
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I also wonder and maybe I’m off here if age plays a role in the type. Like maybe as you age you’re focus is more on relaxing and pleasure and that leads to the calm seas where as younger is more energetic and eager.

I think there are numerous factors at play here, age is most certainly one of those factors, but other factors such as general prostate sensitivity, ones psychological approach, ones mental maturity and physical control of relaxation capability and prior experience with prostate massage are all equally involved. When I first started I had very few strong spasms during orgasms and they have become rare events in the intervening years since. I think that is partially due to the way my body just naturally responds but also to the fact that my prostate has become less sensitive over time due to damage from radiation treatments for prostate cancer. When I have Super-O's they are always of the "calm seas" type.

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I also wonder and maybe I’m off here if age plays a role in the type. Like maybe as you age you’re focus is more on relaxing and pleasure and that leads to the calm seas where as younger is more energetic and eager. Or I could be way off base lol

I don't know about this, I've been at it for a good long while and I don't see a link between age and orgasm "type" but I'm only 39, maybe in my 40s, 50s and beyond I'll see a difference ? I feel like I had more calm seas when I was younger, but I only started thinking in terms of "rough and calm" maybe 2-3 years ago, so it's hard to say.

 


   
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