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Hi to the community and thanks in advance for all the great info here. I have a question about switching up models. I'm three months in and am making reasonable progress, though slow (I have a session every second day on average). Even though things were pleasurable, I felt l like I had hit a plateau and was starting to wonder if my progress had come to an end. Two nights ago, however, I had a breakthrough session. It was Aless, which surprised me. I was playing a video game when all of a sudden I started to feel an intense humming and vibration in the prostate area. I closed my eyes, leaned back, and settled in to the experience and wound up having 5 or 6 prostate orgasms. In my enthusiasm the next day, I ordered a Progasm (I have been using the Helix Classic). I read on the wiki somewhere that newbies should stick to one model as they are in the early stages of the rewiring process. My question to the veterans is: given this context, will playing around with a new model possibly set me back as my prostate will not get the experience it has come to expect over the past few months?


   
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@wtom5561 , I'm not an expert, but I think the suggestion on sticking with one model at first is akin to learning to drive - e.g. It's easier if you learn on one vehicle at first.

You're experiencing a new suite of sensations and maybe your goal is to re-wire (un learn / retrain) your brain off and away from the concept that "ejaculation is the primary means of pleasure" to "orgasms are the primary means of pleasure". Why is that maybe a goal? Well, prostate orgasms have no refactor period, pleasure can go on much longer than that of a traditional ejaculation event. So, if the challenge is to find and experience the "new kind of orgasm" (not the same as ejaculation) you want as few roadblocks as possible to get there.

I think the thinking is this: the process of finding the male orgasm (and then multiple orgasms) is "easier" if you are not confusing / increasing the number of variables your brain has to process and rewired to get there.

I did not begin switching devices until I had success and then a plateau with the first device. BUT I was lucky enough to choose one that worked... I suppose if the one you have is not working, switching may be necessary.

I sort of experienced the same thing:, made some progress, hit a plateau worried that that "was it" then was later surprised by my first Aless! Then for awhile it was several days of Aless then plateau... I worried that maybe this "was it". Then it was rock-my-world multiple orgasms, and then a plateau. For me at least, it seems I go through these cycles. I haven't figured out if switching models slows those cycles or not, but I do know I have one that is a "favorite" and I always come back to it if things get confusing or uncertain... maybe the trick is to find "the favorite" and make that the baseline.

I will say that bigger is not always better, so if the Progasm seems to "not work", it maybe that it just doesn't work "right now"... maybe go the other direction in size next (Eupho). Anyway, good luck and good journeys!


   
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@wtom5561 By all means, I would suggest adding to your "active" Aneros collection. But it sounds to me like you are gauging your sessions by the calendar (every other day) and not by how you are feeling. That will have an effect on your session results. Remember that IMHO it is best to be aroused before starting a session. That means to me not just an erection, but a sexual feeling deep down in your groin and prostate. In time, you will "know" when you are ready.

I would not discourage you from using other models while you are "learning the ropes". Good luck in your journey! Keeps us informed of your progress!


   
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Goldenboy-

You touched on one of my big Qs: What constitutes arousal? I see the word all over the forum, but it seems to be used interchangeably re. erect or flaccid, randy or serene. I never get erect before, during, nor after a session. I don't worry about it, but BA (Before Aneros), aroused always meant hard, and I wonder if being hard would encourage pre-cum like so many men seem to experience (which would be really cool), or if an erection would facilitate a prostate orgasm (which would be awesome) via more arousal in the surrounding areas.

How do you define arousal? What's your perspective on stroking things a little beforehand? I have been avoiding the more typical means to gratification (porn, masturbation), and the couple of times I've touched myself into erection before using my Aneros (Tridents: Helix and MGX) my hard-on goes away pretty quickly. I've been trying to think of arousal as more of a sum of emotional and physiological readiness and sensual, rather than purely sexual, alertness.

Also, last night I went for an hour or two, and though the warmth and tingles were lovely things in and of themselves, the good ship Prostate-O has still not been sighted. All's well, though. I did experience a few mini-contractions somewhere after the 1st hour, and tried to just focus on their rhythm and origin. New and great sensations.

I also experienced something thrilling I hadn't before. I pulled my MGX out for a pee break, and when I went back to bed, I lay on the leg-up side position, and guided it just to the point where my body would pull it in automatically, rather than pushing it all the way in. What happened was that my body pulled the MGX in by itself, and then continued to shift and settle it without me doing anything. In fact, I was sure that my rectum and prostate were taking over and having fun without me. The way it automatically moved inside me didn't last too long, but it was wonderful. Seemed like a taste of the 'feedback loop' I read about on the Wiki. In a word, wow.

Methinks I'm on a good path. Cheers.


   
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rumel
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You touched on one of my big Qs: What constitutes arousal? How do you define arousal?

Please read the thread -> Are you "aroused"?

What's your perspective on stroking things a little beforehand?

I can't speak for @goldenboy but I think a little penile titillation is OK especially when mixed with other forms of erotic stimulation.

I have been avoiding the more typical means to gratification (porn, masturbation), and the couple of times I've touched myself into erection before using my Aneros (Tridents: Helix and MGX) my hard-on goes away pretty quickly. I've been trying to think of arousal as more of a sum of emotional and physiological readiness and sensual, rather than purely sexual, alertness.

IMHO, your new thought paradigm is correct. In regards to avoiding porn, I suggest you read the thread -> Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence and the related thread -> 21 day challenge post for building arousal.

Methinks I'm on a good path.

Methinks you are too !
Good Vibes to You !


   
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Rumel-

Sincere thanks for running such an informative, intriguing forum; your voice and the wiki was the reason I purchased and joined, and your personal touch gives these boards real personality and elegance. Pleased to be a new member, and I look forward to your continued insights. It's comforting to know that there are men who seek pleasure that transcends the typical without shame.

Good vibes to you too.

Z


   
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