Above and Beyond the Super-O...

Hello Old Wolf,

Thank you for sharing that experience! That was beautifully communicated. Hearing about your orgasmic bliss is very inspirational. It reminds us of what we are capable of.

On occasion, I've had some incredible orgasms that took me to places that I never knew were possible. They are so sweet. I relate to your description of feeling both weightless and yet heavy at the same time. It can feel so deep, yet at the same time I've felt like I was being lifted into the clouds as if my body was attached to the string of a kite that wanted to pull me up and along with it. During those particularly intense sessions there was a part of me that was still holding back. I wonder where I could have gone if I'd let myself feel that ultimate abandon? Perhaps I'm cautious because I didn't want to start making a lot of noise. The whimpering and moaning starts at certain levels because you just can't help it and perhaps I was afraid of what kind of noises I'd make if I went higher and deeper into the experience.

It sounds like you are a very orgasmic person, Old Wolf. That is so wonderful. I've only hit those places every once in a great while. Reading your story helps me to remember to give myself permission to go there and relax so that when my body is again ready to take that trip, I'll be "available".

Wishing you and everyone much happiness! Here's to euphoria !

Congrats on the achievement and perhaps "engagement" is a better term than insertion. You're an inspiration for all that know that there is always a bit more to be explored. Tomorrow has a block of time dedicated to "boldly go where..........."

Old Wolf,

I concur with Collin, what terrific description of an absolutely superb experience! Although I can't be certain, it sounds similar to something that occurs with me. I've been very consistent with multiple orgasms for several years now. Such sessions feature Super O's of varying degrees of intensity and duration....and with varying periods of time between the peaks. Very often the periods in between will shorten, sometimes to a degree that the orgasms occur like a salvo (one after the other), ... successive orgasms.

More seldomly, the peaks will shorten further still until there is no time remaining between them. In this state, several things are possible...piggybacking orgasms one literally coming on top of another before the first has totally subsided AND a continuous orgasmic state. The latter is a place where there is no distinguishable peak...just absolute experience! It is almost like the orgasm button has been stuck in the on position.. On one occasion the orgasm must have lasted for a full 6 minutes (I can't know for certain of course...as I was in a time and space warp much as you have described). It's a feeling of being caught up in a rapturous ecstacy...so intense that one responds with tears and laughter. Very powerful,... very beautiful....these things change ya!

BF Mayfield

P.S. I like "introduction" vs. insertion.....sounds warmer and happier...after all it is a meeting of sorts ....and a happy one at that!!... 🙂

hey old wolf-

how about cross posting that great post to My Best Super-O for posterity?

darwin

Hi Old wolf!

Great Post!

I also can relate to allot of the feelings you describe . . .

I have always loved your handle "Old Wolf". If I was to describe myself in the form of an animal...I think I may be wolf-like in character too???

Another way, I think, to view this union of Man and Aneros is: "a Joining" A joining of man and Aneros, starting one on a "Journey" into vast undiscovered plains of "Inner-Self" . . .

Works for me any way???

Enjoy your Journey and keep posting!

Later, Hlaser

Since I first saw your opening post here Old Wolf, your experience, so touchingly described, it has filled me with hope. Thank you very much. In my most recent post in the "Intellectual Orgasms" thread, I describe virtually the same kind of still-body bliss orgasm. Please comment if that is not accurate for yours.

BTW, I like "welcoming" my Aneros, rather than "inserting".

Here is a partial cross-post:
"I am so stimulated I can hardly contain it! That same day in the morning I had an aneros session which had to be brief, an hour max. Not normally an auspicious way to begin. However, once relaxed and again practicing the "push out" and some other things that I have found really improve the mobility and massage results, I decided to try the KS from KSMO.

Up to this point with aneros, the involuntaries I've experiences are faint and brief although they do repeat, coming and going and coming and going... This and other sensations are pleasant and I have been patiently waiting for the next step up. The moment I did the KS the involuntaries increased in magnitude tremendously. If they started to diminsh at all, I did the KS again and they were instantly back to full tilt. The massage was amazing and yet I was facing the deadline and finished off hands on, feeling that I could have gone on to greater things then with more time.

But that breakthrough isn't all. Yesterday as my wife and I were awaking in bed, I had a back muscle spasm (Myoclonus, originally diagnosed as Parkinson's) and suddenly there was an energy buzz in the lower spine and butt. (I've often had Butt Buzz the day after an aneros session, right up to Chair-gasms/Car-gasms.)

This energy buzz grew and spread into a horseshoe down the inside of both thighs. Then it began in waves to move up my body and it built and built until I was involuntarily weeping with joy. I tried to regain control but it would not be supressed in the slightest. These and other sensations continued for well over an hour, even as I got up and attended to other things because again we were facing a deadline for a social event. Even as the energy flows finally were subsiding, the briefest KS would restart the energy flow! I bounced through the social events with great elan, and am looking forward to my next aneros/KS session!!!

These energy flows are closest in my experience to the "golden tree" type of slow spinal orgasm that I have had using certain Tantric techniques. Unlike the dry multiples that I have been having from my wife fingering my prostate, where I do have whole body muscle spasms, bopping and flopping about, these energy flows are intensely within the body and not animating the muscles."

I have had multiple back injuries leaving chronic pain, suffer from multiple painful gastric conditions, have had arthritis closing in on both hips for over fifteen years, and suffered cluster headaches and standard migraines for many years. As much as I love being in the O-zone with conventional dry multiples (and Super-Os...) and Super-Traditionals with my wife, the convulsive body movement also always brings pain and more unpleasant muscle spasms.

That is why I was so thrilled last Sunday to have the "day after" effects from my Saturday Aneros/KSMO session, normally Butt Buzz and Chairgasms, transform totally into the electrical waves of joy and bliss that overcame me, WITHOUT the convulsive orgasmic movement being a necessary part. A painless, and even therapeutic, what should it be called, Transcendent-O?

Or, as Hlaser and I and others at KSMO discussed in our live chat yesterday (hope protocol permits these cross-forum references; if not apologies) an electric still-body orgasm; E-SB-O...

Your story, (and I've never seen a better case for getting a Progasm!!!) was so helpful to me, as a newbie to Aneros and KSMO, in confirming that my experience wasn't just some one-time fluke or accident and positioning that type of experience in the range of developmental and orgasmic possibilities within the collective Aneros Experience. Thanks very much again.

artform

I would concur - it's incredible when the "on" button gets stuck!

It's strange, as the whole experience is one of being bathed in a bath of pleasure. It's funny how time seems to disappear and you're just held aloft on this wave of bliss.

The best I can liken it to is when I was at the opera recently, and I was lucky enough to be sitting at the front. Having the full orchestra in my face, the singers not so far away induced some moments that seemed to rise above everything. It's a hard feeling to describe, but I think for the first time I got what great art was about, and the feeling wasn't too dissimilar to that of a Super O (except I was whimpering!).

When you let your body show you, and you trust it, and stop trying to force it to do things and stop labelling the experiences, it can take you to some beautiful and amazing places. I wish I could share these experiences in real time with another guy. Oh, well, one day...

...The best I can liken it to is when I was at the opera recently, and I was lucky enough to be sitting at the front. Having the full orchestra in my face, the singers not so far away induced some moments that seemed to rise above everything. It's a hard feeling to describe, but I think for the first time I got what great art was about, and the feeling wasn't too dissimilar to that of a Super O (except I was whimpering!).

When you let your body show you, and you trust it, and stop trying to force it to do things and stop labelling the experiences, it can take you to some beautiful and amazing places. I wish I could share these experiences in real time with another guy. Oh, well, one day...

Great to hear another opera fan experiencing the Aesthetic-O, also known as Stendahl's Syndrome although not often experienced as the positive orgasmic variant. Thanks for your story. I agree very much with your last paragraph description and wish you all the best in finding your man.

My wife and I have been having a great adventure with aneros and KSMO. I suspect you would be a natural with Key Sound too.

Our lastest floating bliss was fantastic as set out in my KSMO Forum post:
"As with the week before, I awoke the next morning after the (Aneros/KS) session above, and the great electric radiance began again, but somewhat differently, but again spontaneously without any stimulation or KS. Rather than waves or the "horseshoe" down the thighs, it moved slowly around like ball lightning, almost like an intelligence searching. Gradually it filled my whole body with a substantial backgound buzz, while still having a focus that moved and searched.

At one point I happened to put the ball and toes of my left foot onto a point just above the ankle of my right, and the buzz started zinging around and around and around through my legs and lower abdomen/"genital complex" (genitals plus colo-rectal/prostate/perineum) and particularly the Kundalini spot just below the base of the spine. I said to my wife; " Now I know why that pose is so prevalent in Indian temple sculpture celebrating the energy of sacred sex."

The active electrics spread to my cheeks (north face) and forehead which felt like they were radiating strongly, as did my hands. My wife and I went palm to palm and she received flows of this energy which went to her belly and lower abdomen.

With the build-up of energy at the base of my spine, for the first time in years, I again experienced the "golden tree" spinal centred orgasm I mentioned last week. Originally I described, that experience as being like a jeweller's mould into which moulten gold was painlessly cast and slowly moved through the tree-shaped mould up the trunk (spine) and out the side branches. It stopped at the 4th Chakra and felt like a possible blockage but was peaceful. Again the floating bliss went on and on, for almost two hours. The trigger to these Echo Effects is an enormous gift.

I should also report another from mid-week. Earlier this month I had a good report from my cardiologist who also agreed that there was no impediment with me pursuing these body energy and orgasmic explorations. At a business meeting one day last week I had the first chest pain in a few months, and the next day after another similar meeting I felt a sensation again which was not a pain, but this energy forming and radiating throughout my chest. It was absolutely not a heart problem, but a heartgasm. I felt fine, in fact wonderful, and have had plenty of exercises of all kinds since and no problems at all.

My wife and I are progressing together (and individually) through listening to the whole library and finding it always valuable and inspiring.

Yesterday, my wife and I had another gently glorious mutual G-spot session and were again sharing energy raised by using the Key Sound...

...for now my sounding, while we are in deep penile union (and me with MGX inside) and still or going very slowly, directly triggers her body's energy generation/expression and we had deeply joyous dance that powered us through a very challenging and wonderful social day of several events. I was pleased very pleased to find that the mind/energy interaction is developing again (from the previous tantric practice) and the energy flow responded to an openess/invitation and spiraled up around the spine fanning out through the shoulders and neck into the head and arms/hands freely."

Rorymuscle, I look forward to your further posts on this subject and your Hara thread.

Have you ever had these kinds of floating bliss events as "day after" effects from aneros sessions, like the Chairgasms/Cargasms or what I call Butt Buzz, without any immediate stimulation?

Thanks again.

It is just astounding to me how many variations there seem to be of a similar phenomena. This afternoon I had a nipple induced orgasm without the Aneros that had some of the same characteristics that others have experienced. The build up to the crossover was the most intense that I have experienced with or without the Aneros. It just kept building and building and I kept waiting for the release. It never happened. No flushed feeling, no detectable endorphine release, no muscle relaxation. I gave up, stopped the stimulation and tired to relax in defeat.

Then I noticed that there was still the tingling in my balls that I get when they are fully retracted for orgasm and that my nipples were still hard and very sensitive. There was also a very slight buzz in my prostate which I tried to enhance with some pc muscle contractions. No deal. Then, very slowly, probably over a period or a minute or more, my body went totally limp. Everything got very heavy, yet I felt like I was floating in mid air. My mind was totally relaxed and I could visualize myself floating first in water and then in mid air. It was very much an out of body experience for which I have absolutely no frame or reference.

Several times I wanted to look at my watch to see how long this had been going on and I just couldn't make my arm move or open my eyes. I just couldn't or didn't want to stop whatever was happening to me. I knew I had started the session at 2pm and figured it took about 15 min to crossover. My best estimate was that I was in this floating state for another 30 min. Finally I sneezed as the A/C came on and I looked at my watch. It was 3:55! I has absolutely lost all concept of time. I slowly came out of this unreal state and felt so energized that I went to the driving range to hit some golf balls.

Trust me, intense orgasms do absolutely nothing for your golf game.

Insearchof

I'm not looking for anything anymore... I think this is as good as it gets!!

I recently had a PM from someone asking for further details on my achieving this state. I thought my reply to him would be an important addition to this thread so with his permission I include his question and my reply:

Hi Old Wolf,

I enjoyed your last posting in the Super O Sticky thread and I have a question if you dont mind. When you said:

"I can make a semi-conscious effort not to let my abs tighten up, not to give way to the back-arching and shuddering, and my body subsides into a zone of total relaxation, whilst awash in overwhelming bliss and ecstasy."

How difficult is that for you to make this effort? I am unable to not tighten up my abs and am wondering if this is something that has been easy for you? Was this the first time you tried it and it resulted in this fantastic event? Last night I had a session where I was shuddering so much the bed was creaking. I could not make it stop. I wonder if this might be an answer for me in my journey.

Thank you.

And my reply:

Hi (name deleted)

I've been thinking a lot about this since reading your message yesterday (Saturday). I even tried to replicate the event in bed last night but fell asleep before getting anywhere at all. (it was 3 am Sunday before I settled down with the Progasm and I'd been up since 6 am Saturday... Next thing I knew it was nearly 11 am and the Progasm was still in situ.)

The first time I experienced something like an 'Above & Beyond' event was early in my Aneros life. I used to snatch time with it whilst watching TV, whilst pretending to read on the sofa, etc. We live in a trailer and absolute privacy is more or less an impossibility so I have to try and suppress the most extreme Aneros effects. More about my personal circumstances can be read in my first post: Will someone marry me to my Helix?

Anyway back to the first...

Me: semi reclined in the sofa, pretending to read. Progasm in place doing what it does.

Her: At the desktop computer about 8ft away with her back to me.

The sensations had been building nicely and I had a couple of small super-Os while still being able to control big muscle spasms, just my feet and lower legs twitching a bit. (Thinking back, big spasms only came later on as I 'progressed'. Actually a retrograde progression as far as I'm concerned. Os without spasms would make my O life much easier!) I started to feel an even bigger build up with much more body tension and, still being somewhat of a tyro, just didn't know what to expect viv a vis uncontrolled/uncontollable spasms, contractions, thrashing etc. I suppose I had a vision of myself totally losing control and convulsing off the sofa and flapping about on the floor like a stranded fish.

So, one part of my mind was feeling sensations building and the tension increasing and enjoying every second of it while another part of my mind was, quite rationally as I recall, trying to monitor anything that would give the game away, so to speak. I remember allowing myself to stretch my neck and head out with my mouth open and remember thinking as I did so, "If she notices I can pretend I'd started to fall asleep". The next thing that happened was more or less how I described in 'Above & Beyond...' My body stopped trying to cramp up, the leg and foot twitches stopped, tension melted away and I seemed to totally relax and sink into the sofa. I was lying on my side at the time and I just lay my head down on the sofa arm and let the feelings wash over me. That first was by no means as all encompassing as the later events I describe in 'Above & Beyond' but my memory has it as a stepping stone to those events.

As regards difficulty of not tensing up and convulsing, memory has it as being dead easy, but preconditions have to be right. Bear in mind that memory isn't the most reliable of faculties when one is in an orgasmic state, lol. I think I just re-channel the tension into waves of 'something else', maybe warmth &/or pleasure. As I posted, apart from the event described above, I'm only ever able to go to this place after several convulsed Os. It's as though I have to a) physically fatigue myself through the convulsions, and b) release some of the sexual tension through the Os before being able to enter the portal. I try not to want to go there and not to 'try' for it, as, like the super O itself, expectation can get in the way of achievement. It doesn't, by any means, happen every multi-orgasmic session. Sometimes I drift off to sleep, almost mid-orgasm. Sometimes I need a 'wet' orgasm which more or less brings the session to a close, though i have been able to get smaller, softer, more subtle Os following ejaculation. Again, though, I frequently just drift off to sleep post ejaculation, to awake sticky, sweaty and Aneros still in place. Never intentional, just circumstances...

I'm sorry I'm not able to be more specific but, again like the Super O, instructions can never be precise.

Enjoy your journey

p.s. Having just re-read through the above it strikes me as a good follow up to the original 'Above & Beyond' thread. With your permission, (it is after all a 'Private message' to you) I would like to add it to that thread. I would, of course, remove your name from the top and replace it with something like: "Copied from a PM with permission" perhaps with your post copied (anonymously) for context. If you'd rather I didn't, I understand. O W

And his reply:

Hey OW,

Thanks for the feedback. I should have assumed that it would be difficult to put into words what you precisely go through. I have people ask me things all the time that I cant find the words to describe. It sounds as though it is easier for me to just let the flexing of my abs just happen and try to let go from there.

I have been starting up with KSMO and have been learning some things with the whole abdominal area as well with that.

By all means, go ahead and use your response to attach to your other post. The most important aspect of our forum is to help others along.

Happy journeys everyone,

Old Wolf

Old Wolf, thank you so much for your detailed story putting your O experiences in context. That is extremely helpful.

You have an enormous environmental stress effecting your possibilities and your adaptation to that stress appears to be what caused you to find another way and opened the door for you to "Beyond".

We live in an unfinished open plan house and had to stifle when our children still lived at home, despite there being plenty of rooms. Our liberated post-parenting sex life has flickered and come to life fully again in the last couple of years. We love our children very much and wouldn't have changed a thing, except getting the house finished but that is another story... For me the great pressing stress is the chronic pain(s) I have lived with for many years.

Much as I can enjoy the dry multiples/Super-Os, they can easily set off muscle cramps, spasms and very sharp pain in my back, neck and chest and very painful lock-ups of my arthritic hips and attendant leg muscle cramps. I won't go into the long list of gut, head and other pain areas, other than to say that true pleasure is a careful and delicate path for me too. The electric still-body floating bliss is my preferred destination too.

My great good fortune is that my wife, who has endured my health problems with me, when we discovered, through some new literature, her female ejaculatory orgasms and G-spot (prostate) massage, took a real interest for the first time in my internal anal stimulation and my prostate massage. This prostate mutuality has been a fantastic fresh layer of sex and deepening bonding, as well as an unbelievably great sensuous orgasmic experience. Is anything like that a possibility in your situation?

I wish you all the best and thanks very much again.

artform

artform,

My wife has been extremely supportive and sometimes actively participates in my aneros sessions. We've also jointly practiced some KSMO but I'd like to provide her with more options. Any references on the literature and info you mentioned for females. At one point there was actually talk here about a future female aneros.

Great to hear another opera fan experiencing the Aesthetic-O, also known as Stendahl's Syndrome although not often experienced as the positive orgasmic variant.

Thank you for the information regarding this experience - I'm amazed it has a name! Very interesting. I wonder if the same part of the brain is involved in Stendhal's syndrome and orgasm? Fascinating stuff.

My wife and I have been having a great adventure with aneros and KSMO. I suspect you would be a natural with Key Sound too.

Our lastest floating bliss was fantastic as set out in my KSMO Forum post:
"As with the week before, I awoke the next morning after the (Aneros/KS) session above, and the great electric radiance began again, but somewhat differently, but again spontaneously without any stimulation or KS. Rather than waves or the "horseshoe" down the thighs, it moved slowly around like ball lightning, almost like an intelligence searching. Gradually it filled my whole body with a substantial backgound buzz, while still having a focus that moved and searched.

At one point I happened to put the ball and toes of my left foot onto a point just above the ankle of my right, and the buzz started zinging around and around and around through my legs and lower abdomen/"genital complex" (genitals plus colo-rectal/prostate/perineum) and particularly the Kundalini spot just below the base of the spine. I said to my wife; " Now I know why that pose is so prevalent in Indian temple sculpture celebrating the energy of sacred sex."

The active electrics spread to my cheeks (north face) and forehead which felt like they were radiating strongly, as did my hands. My wife and I went palm to palm and she received flows of this energy which went to her belly and lower abdomen.

With the build-up of energy at the base of my spine, for the first time in years, I again experienced the "golden tree" spinal centred orgasm I mentioned last week. Originally I described, that experience as being like a jeweller's mould into which moulten gold was painlessly cast and slowly moved through the tree-shaped mould up the trunk (spine) and out the side branches. It stopped at the 4th Chakra and felt like a possible blockage but was peaceful. Again the floating bliss went on and on, for almost two hours. The trigger to these Echo Effects is an enormous gift.

I should also report another from mid-week. Earlier this month I had a good report from my cardiologist who also agreed that there was no impediment with me pursuing these body energy and orgasmic explorations. At a business meeting one day last week I had the first chest pain in a few months, and the next day after another similar meeting I felt a sensation again which was not a pain, but this energy forming and radiating throughout my chest. It was absolutely not a heart problem, but a heartgasm. I felt fine, in fact wonderful, and have had plenty of exercises of all kinds since and no problems at all.

My wife and I are progressing together (and individually) through listening to the whole library and finding it always valuable and inspiring.

Yesterday, my wife and I had another gently glorious mutual G-spot session and were again sharing energy raised by using the Key Sound...

...for now my sounding, while we are in deep penile union (and me with MGX inside) and still or going very slowly, directly triggers her body's energy generation/expression and we had deeply joyous dance that powered us through a very challenging and wonderful social day of several events. I was pleased very pleased to find that the mind/energy interaction is developing again (from the previous tantric practice) and the energy flow responded to an openess/invitation and spiraled up around the spine fanning out through the shoulders and neck into the head and arms/hands freely."

Rorymuscle, I look forward to your further posts on this subject and your Hara thread.

Have you ever had these kinds of floating bliss events as "day after" effects from aneros sessions, like the Chairgasms/Cargasms or what I call Butt Buzz, without any immediate stimulation?

Thanks again.

Amazing experiences! I tried the Key Sound technique a few years ago and didn't pursue it. As I was already multi-orgasmic using nipple stimulation, I felt it was the same destination, different path. Investigation of it is on my sensual to-do list, and I'll report back on experiences. I notice you have to pay for the information now when it used to be free, didn't it?

You and your wife seem to have had some powerful experiences together. It must be wonderful to find a partner on the same wavelength.