10 Years - no prostate orgasm; I. Am. Frustrated.

Seems fairly simple to me,by keeping your dick at the forefront,it is stopping from rewiring to use your prostate for pleasure..imo
you need to start separating penis and prostate play and prostate orgasm from ejaculation,from wht you’ve said,you have the physical tools in place for prostate orgasms,but not taking the time to allow your prostate to flourish in its own right..

@GorestFump, welcome to Aneros Forum. I too suggest that whenever you have an Aneros session, just leave your penis out of it.

Helix, MGX, Maximus, and Progasm are very fine Aneros models. They are the centerpiece of my Aneros collection. Try just inserting Helix or MGX and luxuriate in the sensations they produce for you. You may be surprised! 😉

Also read the thread, Penis, NOT! It is filled with lots of helpful advice.

We're here to help you and spur you on! 😉

What I experienced so far in my journey:+ A whole lot of T-Orgasms for sure, using all sorts of insertable things - tools, vegetables, dildos, aneros of course (Progasm, MGX, Helix & Maximus), my fingers... you get the idea.

This may be your first hurdle. You've programmed yourself to associate anal/prostate stimulation with ejaculatory orgasms, this may be your most important link to break! I agree with @BigGlansDC 's suggestion to read @Cockadoodle ’s thread Penis, NOT. Also please read @rook 's thread Whole Body/Whole Mind - the mental side & @SteelColdiron 's thread Aneros: The Essential Mind State for a little insight. It might also help you to read @neros 's post The truth behind how to "rewire".

+ I can only guess, but I think I can have dry-ish orgasms whenever I take a break from ejaculating. I do this by stimulating my nipples and slightly massaging my frenulum. I might also use an aneros while doing it and then I´m able to ride this orgasmic wave as long as I want. I think what I´m feeling then is this "orgasmic" feeling right before ejaculation happens, but since I avoid falling "over the ejaculation-edge", I then have this constant pleasure, where I can also feel good feelings from my prostate, my nipples and this all is really good. I guess you could say this is sort of a "super-o", since it fits the definition of "somehow more pleasurable / longer than normal o´s". But......

IMHO, you are already there, only you are expecting more and it is this unmet expectation which is causing you a problem.

As far as I got it, the prostate-orgasm, induced by prostate play only, has no plateau and can bring you higher and higher. It differs very much from penile orgasm and you don´t have to "hold anything back" but can completely let yourself go.

TRUE !

Now, whenever I do the things described above, I have to hold back the ejaculation - I have to hold back the pleasure, that is possible beyond this point I guess. I cannot let myself go.

This is a psychological block you are erecting for yourself, please see "Just Let Go !".

I feel like even though this might be better than just a normal, short ejaculative orgasm, it is not nearly as good as the prostate orgasm without any penile involvement whatsoever. Now I have tried hundreds of times to get this working, but when I play with my prostate alone, it´s just so. boring. I used - as I said, every toy, I used breathing techniques, I tried outside in nature on warm nights, in bed, in the changing cubicles of public swimming pools, everywhere. The do nothing method, hammering it away, everything in between.

This is an example of trying too hard to make something happen and meet your mythic expectations, please see Super-O Myths & Illusions regarding 'the Edge' and a couple of other myths. Also please read @neros thread The Myth of Super Orgasm.

I get so little arousal out of it alone and it´s deeply frustrating, since I get a good taste of its magical powers whenever I combine this with penis play. The moment I use my penis, I can go much higher, but as I said, then there´s this limit, this ejaculation-edge, where I cannot pass and that´s why the whole feeling can get only so intense.

OK, You've learned that your Aneros is not a good arousal generator but it is a good arousal amplifier. What you need to learn now is that penile stimulation is not the only way to generate the high arousal levels necessary for prostate orgasms to occur.

So, do you see any road, I might be able to go that could help me or should I accept my defeat here?

YES, I think there is definitely a good path forward for you but it won't be easy. First I advise you to read the thread Are you "aroused"?. Next, please read the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence. Finally, IMHO, you would definitely benefit from completing the 21 Day Challenge.

I´m reading this forum for about 7 years now and took a lot of the advice given to heart.

I applaud your reading and your continued persistance in your journey but I don't think you've taken all the advice given to heart just yet. Now may be the perfect time to go back and re-read some of the advice and make some adjustments in your approach. Time sometimes allows us to see information from a different perspective and gain insight we didn't see upon first reading.
Good Vibes to You !

@GorestFump I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned male chastity as a way for you to separate your ejaculations from prostate orgasms. @rumel's suggestion for the 21-Day Challenge is great! I find that I now continuously practice semen retention and "track" my limited ejaculations on a calendar.

Wearing a chastity device too can help build arousal during sessions and transfer that arousal from your penis to your prostate. I regularly wear a "chastity cup" (nothing more than a hard cup supporter) during bed and/or during Aneros sessions. If you are really adventurous, I would suggest wearing a CB-6000 chastity cage for a while and see what that will do for your arousal and orgasms. The whole idea is to generate some new pathways to arousal without the traditional ejaculation!

I should also add that your "fantasy playbook" could be employed to enhance your arousal. Binaural beats and/or erotic meditation music are another way I wake-up my prostate. Good luck in your continuing journey. I for one look forward to reading about your progress!

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PS If I may make just one more "suggestion": only keep Aneros in your "toolbox" for now (set a session (and TO ejaculation) timetable for, say, a day or two, then a week, then perhaps longer). Only use the Aneros prostate stimulators during that time and nothing else. Combine this with the other suggestions to limit your ejaculations and see how far that will take you! Good luck!

Hey bud you and I are/were in the same boat. I had 10 years of NOTHING, in fact i had several years of pain from damage i ended up doing as a result of the aneros, not to mention mental pain in relation to that as well. Very few here are in the same boat.

What i did to change that pattern was to refer to the wiki and follow the steps, slowly, repeat the steps for weeks, using smaller devices like the peredise and eventually it woke things up. My sessions are very much hit and miss though, mostly miss unless i am totally relaxed i cannot get a super o and they are as rare as f**k.

You guys have moved me to the view that all the talk of super O is just some autohypnotism McGuffin. There is still plenty of chicks wanting me to fuck them. So they get most fun out of my dick? I can carry on living with that, basking in their awe. I just tossed the Syn in the bin.

You guys have moved me to the view that all the talk of super O is just some autohypnotism McGuffin. There is still plenty of chicks wanting me to fuck them. So they get most fun out of my dick? I can carry on living with that, basking in their awe. I just tossed the Syn in the bin.

I think to a larger degree you are correct about this, i learned early on that the way people descirbe feelings and use words, espeically to some of us, to be very poor and on occasion wildly innacrruate.

I have had three consective super orgasms, however i required weed to get there and that my friend is bullshit, if i have to seek out illegal narcotics in order to achieve such things.

I agree with what youre doing, go have fun!

Well I’ve attained super-o status,whilst maintaining an active sex life with my wife,it’s all about attitude,if it’s not right,it won’t happen period.

@pucktoo = @rayvega ? = Troll?

Well my answer to that is: No. I do not troll. Anyway, I have relented and retrieved my Syn from the basket. A few sessions, which I have had with it, were very relaxing and did have very positive effects on me. Made me chatty and happy enough to get up and dance. I value that. So, I shall treat the Helix Syn in the way I treat weed: A rare treat, now and again, not something to waste days, weeks, months, and years on.

Wow, I am overwhelmed by the support you offer. Thank you very, very much!

I must admit, that I´ve thrown away my collection as well, but your words encourage me. I might order an MGX as soon as I get some money to spare and give it another - or should I say, a "new" try.

I am sorry for those who felt slighty offended by some words posted by others in this thread recently. It´s not my concern to create a space for unsolicited criticism on this level. Maybe I can tame some minds by saying this:

Although I have not had a protate orgasm, induced by the gland alone, I can definitely say that there is much more to experience but simple "penile sneezes". I have already been there and in comparison to afore mentioned incidents, there were orgasms far beyond the pleasure level we talk about in society, whenever it comes to the boring male oragsm. I would call many of my, now easy to have orgasms "super".

Furthermore I am very happy and encouraged by the things I´ve been told here like "I´m already there / I am obviously capable", which brings me to the conclusion, that my approach has to change, but I guess I might have tasted enough to know that the "tales" are true.

Very big thanks to @rumel for your very detaillled and wonderful answer, I cherish your words! This of course holds true for all of you, I have not expected to get such a tremendously welcoming and motivating feedback!

And concerning the choice of words, some found to be misleading when it comes to describing the super-o´s: My idea´s that many of the gentlemen around here have been on earth quite a few years now and therefore choose their words to describe pleasing moments with more sophistication and dignity than those, who don´t have the same experience.

I for myself will read all the material, rumel mentioned, and then try again. I cannot promise that it will be soon, but I am definitley motivated now and you will hear from me again, that´s for sure! Thank you 🙂

@pucktoo from what you wrote here and another post about homophobia and refusing your wife anal sex,and telling off a gf who put her finger in your ass,you seem sexually uptight,if you can’t shake that off,then maybe you shouldn’t waste your time with aneros.
If you start with that sort of negativity,it just won’t work. This forum is full of invaluable info,posts,hints,tips and tricks.
However,the forum can only show you the door,you have to walk through it.

With all due respect: If you find the time to reread my initial post you may see that in recent years my homophobia has greatly lessened. If my wife asked me now to fuck her up the arse, I would be happy to oblige. The fact that I have bought an aneros massager should also indicate that my views on anality have changed. My apologies if my blunt manner of writing case offence— it is not my intention to do so. I do yearn for a super O. And that is why I have broached the question about whether I should have an MGX— given my diminutive size. I do find the Helix Syn to be very tranquilising, mentally and physically. I am a small “arsey” aggressive guy— and it is those qualities which attract some women to me. I worry that “rewiring” my libido towards my arse— and away from my cock— may lead to me having to use viagra to get a hard-on. So you see, I am torn between a deep desire to experience more fulfilling orgasms, and— on the other hand- -a fear that my penile virility May be compromised in ways that may be adverse.

@pucktoo I won't speak for anyone else on the forum, but since starting aneros about 2 years ago, my hardons are stiffer than when i was a teen, and my power of penile orgasms, lasting power in bed, velocity and volume of ejaculate have increased greatly. I have not experienced a dropoff in penis pleasure. To the contrary, strengthening the 'root' of my penis (prostate) has electrified all sexual pleasures in my body. I wish you the best in your journey!

Why thank you! That’s what I want to hear!

I just fucking had one! It’s real! No words to describe.

@pucktoo wait, whut?? You just had a prostate orgasm?? Duuuude!!! That is so awesome, bro!!

@pucktoo I’m not offended at all. It’s well known that its not the gland or the toy that holds people back,it’s what’s in their heads. Some people do fear a gay aspect to Aneros,but massaging a gland within your own body isn’t straight or gay,it’s a masturbation style I feel.
In my opinion,prostate play can only improve the penis and sex bit. I have noticed differences in my sex life with my wife,harder erections,harder orgasms,so many more subtle pleasures I didn’t notice before. I’ve had dry o’s during foreplay. And I swear since starting kegels a few weeks ago,my stamina has improved,when I feel ejaculation orgasm building,I notice my pc is flexing,and when I focus to relax it,the orgasm fades.

... I swear since starting kegels a few weeks ago, my stamina has improved, when I feel ejaculation orgasm building, I notice my pc is flexing and when I focus to relax it, the orgasm fades.

I agree with your finding Kegel exercises beneficial for a variety of reasons but I need to ask ->Does your orgasm really fade or is your ejaculatory reflex delayed? I find the ejaculatory reflex is delayed when the pelvic floor muscles are relaxed but the pleasure of the orgasm continues on.
Good Vibes to You !

The secret is: Surrender

@rumel ok,I guess I’ve not explained correctly.. So,when I have intercourse with the wife,it’s very pleasurable as always,at a point,I feel my penile ejaculation orgasm create ‘in the distance’ and begin its ramp up to the ponr. The kegels have made me so much more aware of what the pelvic floor is doing,and being able to consciously manipulate it better,so BEFORE I reach the ponr,when i relax it,the ramp up decelerates back to 0,and the pleasurable intercourse continues until the cycle starts again, I guess you mean there’s a point where if it’s done correctly,the ejac stops but the orgasm comes anyway,which I’m guessing is dry-o during sex which is a goal,but I’m not clever enough for that yet,of course,I’m open to suggestions.The best so far has been prostate orgasms during foreolay with some ‘skill’. I’ve managed to pull off most things from this journey,but I’ve a long way to go to achieve masterful control over it all,especially during sex.

I used to be in your boat... literally... 10 years without a big one. Sure I had small waves here and there, but I was never really close... Then one night I had some medicinal MJ, and for whatever reason, after not touching it for a year, I decided to try it.. and... it happened. If you aren't adverse to a little med, give it a whirl.

I feel as of I'm in the same boat. Coming up on seven years now and while I did have a super orgasm with my first device the progasm after about 4 uses (where I was lying on my side with a pillow underneath and leg up), it suddenly sent a jolt of pleasure like the feeling of ejaculation and felt like the device was pushing so far in and I came what felt like buckets and buckets of cum with intense and wild pleasure and afterwards when I came back down I checked my underwear and there was a glob of precum soaked and dripping in my underwear and then it took me once more by surprise and I felt like bliss afterwards. But then ever since it's felt like I've been chasing that feeling even when I fully surrender and let go of expectations and just give in to what I'm feeling. Arousal would be high during some sessions throughout the year and I'd feel like I'm close but then it just slowly disappears or it stays at a constant level of what feels like pressure of teasing or building a tease and then never a release. Even if I let go fully. No muscles tensed and mind relaxed and no expectations. Then I just end with a super t because of how much the teasing has built up pleasure and wanting release. Few times I've not super t'd during a session and the next session it'd just be the same thing. I feel like I'm so close or it's already happening and I lie to myself to try and believe that I am super o'ing and any negative thought I have of expectations or release or not enough of this and that I immediately notice the thought and pivot towards saying I am super o'ing or to just relax.

Been feeling stick like this for awhile.

Took at least that to get anywhere for me, still at 15 years now with alot of inconsistencies. How i progressed was to refer back to the wiki and follow the steps, exepct NOTHING and then improvements come VERY small at first but then grows. Still took me like 2 years even afteer doing that.

@flexxor I found that softer contractions helped me crossover to orgasm easier.