I bought the Helix for my husband, any advice....

Like I said earlier in here. For me personally, I was just too embarrassed when I was that young to admit to liking anything anal or wanting it (probably, including being accepting of it for my hubby. The subject never came up when we were that young.) I don't know why, but I do think there is some something that makes women feel bad or quilty about anal, masturbating, maybe even being attracted to other women. It is just an unwritten rule that those things are not acceptable. We may do them regardless, but while we do we feel embarrassed and guilty. At least till we overcome that. But, even now, at 37 going on 38, - I don't talk to my friends about those kinds of things, they just aren't ever brought up for discussion. They are a non-topic.

That's an interesting topic. Do you think most women enjoy anal (at least of those that try it)? How about yourself? Do you like it a lot or take it or leave it? When did you start liking it, and what made it enjoyable?

A lot of questions I know, but just curious. All the women I ever had it with really didn't seem to get anything out of it. A friend of mine has reported the same thing. I suppose if they are new to it, then it takes time to adjust and learn a new sensation - perhaps like us guys with the Aneros.

I remember seeing a porn segment once of a woman doing anal, and it really looked unfaked and tasty 🙂 . In the vid she eventually starting shaking...particularly her thighs along with some pretty intense vocals. It really turned me on. Before anal sex the guy massaged her vagina, clit, and anus thoroughly teasing her. Oh..I noticed that he had an angle in his finger (she was on all fours) as he inserted it in her rear that was downward toward her vagina and across her perineum. Zane reminds me that a woman's perineum is directly centered and kind of melds into the anus / vagina. So, I'm thinking he really hit a nerve (literally). The same when he had sex with her. He had the downward angle. What do you think? Would that make a difference. I suppose you and your hubby can give it a try and see.

As I recall Zane said she wsan't into it that much, because according to her there were too many nerves there and it was like...overload or something.

what works for us is one position as far as giving her a vaginal orgasm..start missionary..pull your right leg up over her left leg...slowly turning...your left leg moves under her left...turning sideways...your combletely facing away from her..well half way..move up as far as u can still being inserted in her...and start grinding...this puts your cock in as close contact with her clit as possible...every time in this position the close hard contact..gets her off..she starts grabbing my ass cheeks pulling me in till..bam....she arches against me...try that ..winks.. 😛

Thanks OH!!....I will have to see how it goes and take it from there..... 🙂
Self image could be a contributor....she does have low self esteem sometimes but I'm always reinforcing how much I love her and find her attractive.....
Oh hell yes.....anal porn with the woman genuinely enjoying it......love it hehe.

evil-zombie:Thanks! Will try that one! Sounds great!

mm's wife...C:Well I've asked her the question already...and she said sure she will try....I dont think I would be able to persuade her to take 6 to 8 large pills a day without telling her why lol!

Hehe @ "no to get too descriptive" Think you blew that right out of the water with your very next sentence lol...but its fine..I understand what you mean...and yes we have tried that but its more clitoral stim and she desperately(and me!) wants to cum from vaginal stim only..or mostly at least....

Yeh she is like that too with regards to the slow and fast thing....slow 90% of the time and only fast in the last few mins....which leads either me to cum or we realise(as usual) she just aint cumming and then stop and let her orgasm first with a sideways position that allows me to still be inside her but gives her hands room to "play" and finish up but its rather concomfortable for me so I have to finish in another position......

Have her hormones tested??...hmmmmm really didnt think of that one!! Thanks we might seriously do that.... 🙂
Yeh we might also tell her gyne.....but hes expensive to see so might have to wait until she has an appointment or something...but thats what I was thinking too...its not normal for a 24 year old not to want sex......all my friends girlfriends are around the same age and they put out plenty!

Will do C! Im not a mind reader as I've told her so talking is important (sounds familiar hey? lol)

ps....fraid not...South Africa doesnt get that show....we get Dr Phil, Home Improvements and Jerry Springer to name a few....

Quick update:She told me that me buying the coconut oil was the last straw...and she now does not want to see me doing anything related to the Aneros with-in sight of her...,,and now to minimise any Aneros forum or Fleshlight forum window when she walks into the room...WTF?

I'm so hurt that she doesn't care about my sexual exploration or well-being.....She kept saying its not natural for men to stick things up their bums and next thing I'm going to tell her is that I want a dildo or a cock up my ass(I have to admit I lost my temper at this point and yelled at her how deeply she hurt me by saying that and me using the Aneros does not mean I want a cock in my ass as I'm just not attracted to guys or want to have sex with them) and yeh.....big fight ensued followed by ignoring each other until we both calmed down to talk to each other without shouting....

Whew....So we have agreed that I will use the spare room from now on to conduct my "fucking weirdo shit".......*sigh*

thank god my second wife is kewl to all this...but i can relate as my first was totally freaked out about anything anal...me or her...she "caught" me so to speak playing with one of her dildos in my ass and fucking spazzed...telling me i was queer and shit...i lost it...wasn't long after that we divorced...hope ya'll can work through it..that was a hellish time in my life...

OH!! - do I think most women enjoy anal? I don't really know. Like I said, it is just not a subject that at least me and my friends discuss. And if it ever gets brought up; the first comment is usually whell!, how gross and/or unsavory!

I think... if a person (man or woman) were to get past the whole taboo part of it and just concentrate on what it feels like; then, I can't see how they couldn't find something desirable about anal play. But, a finger up a persons bum is much different than a penis. Now as for anal sex, that is a whole different ball of wax... there can be pain associated with that for whatever reason; taking things too fast, not enough lube, the object (be that a penis, dildo, vibrator, other) is too large. So, I can see where some may be o.k. with play and not with actual anal sex. Think about your Aneros' - they really aren't that large of an object, but compare that next to your penis the next time you are hard - BIG difference! For me, like I said in an earlier post. I have had anal sex, but usually I wind up not feeling too good for a couple of days after. Because of coming on here and learning about how glycerin can affect someone, I've started to wonder if that is why I would not feel good. (We always used KY jelly) So, anyway, because of not feeling good after, I've pretty much stuck with just the play part of anal. Maybe the sex side 2-3x a yr. And, I've been satisfied with that. But, maybe if I find something that isn't glycerin based... ????? who knows. As for when I started to get interested ??? um, I remember being interested before that, but actually finally trying (with not much success!) for the first time when I was 20. I will say that when I do do it, once I cum, I don't want it anymore after that, at that time. *shrugging* it's just how I feel after. Any more and the sensation and pressure is too much.

As for the downward angle, ?????

I do know that everything can be very sensitive "down there" on a woman. Sometimes, instead of going in for the kill, if you try and avoid on purpose what you and she may want the most, it just makes it that much more desireable! After that, even just the lightest of touch can set off a wildfire!

F.Y.I. - these are just suggestions! What may work for me may not do a thing for your wife/gf/so. But, it never hurts to try 😉 Oh, and another F.Y.I. when you do something different - we wonder where you got it from. We don't necessarily think your cheating on us, but if we've been with you for awhile... we get used to what you do and anything new is well.... new. Kapeesh? 😆

EZ - nice to see you back here! LOL on your position! It took me some mental picturing to get it in my head how you were describing it! So basically, you are stradling (sp?) her left leg? Am I understanding that right? Sounds interesting and doable!!! I have to admit, I don't think we've ever done that! LOL - thanks! 😀

CW - lol on the pill thing! lol on the not to get too descriptive. Just trying to help, ya never know what will work. Since she is willing to try Zanes diet, the next step would be to check out www.gyneflex.com for the exercisers for women. You could check it out first and see what you think b4 bringing it up to her. For a woman, supposedly only the outside 1/3 of the vagina has feeling/nerve endings, the other 2/3 inside the woman supposedly doesn't (I got that off of Talk Sex with Sue.) So, yeah, slow can be exquisit!, it just gives us that much longer to feel everything that we are being given 😉 .

One other thing I remember hearing once (can't remember where), was just the analogy that women are like a crock pot. Just like a crock pot; you need to start them and turn them on early and they need to warm up and simmer all day before they are ready at night. lol Just some food for thought.

And, definetly have her hormones tested!!! When my thyroid was off (and it wasn't all that long ago) - it was a real struggle for me to want sex. Honest! In my head I knew I loved my hubby, and that he was still very attractive to me and he felt I was attractive. It just wasn't there for me. I would struggle to get even remotely in the mood. Usually for me, after my period is a given, a no brainer. But, when my thyroid was off - it just wasn't nearly as strong. Heck, I've even ordered Zanes book and am going to give her diet a try. As long as it doesn't have any adverse effects on my medicine, why not.

South Africa huh, isn't the internet something. I'm damn-near half the world away from you! You know what! You may not have Sue's show, but there is her website and you could ask a question on there and maybe if you tell them how you heard about the show, but that you don't get it, maybe they would be willing to answer you via the internet. What the heck, worth a try. I'll get back to you on the web address.

CW - sorry to hear about the whole coconut oil, etc. I can sorta see the Aneros thing (y'know taboo and all that) but, the fleshlight is just for "regular" masturbating. I guess I don't understand what is wrong with that. I'm sorry that you are hurt AND that you both had a fight over your exploring. I hope that you can work things through to a better ending. I sincerely hope that that wasn't quotes from her saying "fucking weirdo shit" - that would be pretty harsh. 🙁 Take care! I'll be thinkin' of ya!

EZ - I'm sorry for your hard time too. It couldn't have been easy. I think if I found my hubby that way... I'd be surprised at first (he's never spoken of a desire for something like that), but then... I'd probably get turned on and then I'd want to take over 😈 .

Let's see if I can say this right without shoving my foot in my mouth (and deep!) I can understand how some woman can get upset about the whole anything up their mans butt. I'm assuming here! but, some women may associate a "manly man" as one who is everything manly (as advertised by media and passed down by grandpas and dads, etc....) Hunting, playing baseball, poker, beer, watching the Superbowl, a steak and potato dinner, trucks, and muscle cars, soccer, etc... the list goes on and on and on! But, now add to these womens "manly" thoughts, their MAN putting something up their butt and, well - that doesn't go with their "typical" mental picture of a man. Whether it may be for sexual stimulation or prostate health, how many of you can honestly think or recall ever a time where you heard either through the media or freinds or family (grandpa/dad) a discussion about anal play; especially anal play for men?! (Other than it being in a gay context.) For me... never until the movie Road Trip.

Did what I say make any sense? Does this mean all women think this way? No, as you've read here, I don't and EZ's wife doesn't and several other mens wives on here don't. These are just one of my thoughts on the subject. But, if you look around on here. There are men on here who are dealing with the same issue as CW and EZ w/his first wife. I don't know what the answer is.

For me, I sometimes think that because of my bi-curious side that that is why I am more open to and accepting of stuff. I know how easily I could be to be ridiculed and even ostrasized (sp?) by family, friends and even my community, if someone close to me were to find out about it. I don't know..... But, what I do know is that I am not the norm. I don't care. I can't care. If I cared, it would drive me insane not being "normal"! I'm me. Take me or leave me. Love me or hate me. Don't like me? That can make me feel bad, but I am who I am. And I like what I like. I can't make everyone happy, I've tried. It doesn't work. I just do my best to be the best person I know how to be.

Anyway, I hope you all had a good/great weekend. It is now 1:25 a.m. and I'd better go. Have a good start to your week everyone!

C

no loss on the first wife...lol..as far as i know shes been divorced twice since...her loss...the position i described we do is cross body..will deliver...smiles...nice that your open-minded as my current wife of 23 years...it's great ain't it?

evil-zombie:Yeh it feels like hell at times and then awesome at other times...but this is a major thing for me...and I can only hope I can open her mind and awareness a little or I might have to resort to drastic measures:IE: Show it to her until she becomes comfortable with it! As for the seconf wife...well done! Good catch there indeed! I think actually one of the very first posts's I ever did here I congratulated you on having such a kewl wifey!

mm's wife:Waiting for that web site! Thyroid?? Of all things...lol!
Yeh she dont like my fleshlights either...but it keeps me from nagging her for sex so often, so she tolerates it...As for the quotes...yup that was her quote...if you scroll up or to the first page you will see what she said 🙁

And yep you might be right with the concept of a "manly man"! She has some ideas about how things should be, but inreality its abit different and I've let her down a few times gently like that...

Hi Crimsonwonder,

There's a book called "Anal Pleasure and Health" by Jack Morin that discusses anal stimulation from both a healthful and sexual perspective, as the title suggests. It also explores the cultural taboos of anal stimulation.

You may want to read this book yourself and see if your girlfriend might benefit from reading it as well. It's very readable and informative.

I wish you the best of luck!

Onthepath

EZ - thanks! I do try to be as open-minded as possible. I also try to best explain my way of thinking on here. I hope I do o.k. Anyway!, thanks for the new posish (short for position.) Maybe we'll be able to give it a try sometime soon. 😀 I am a curious critter! 😈

CW - I found the website for ya! It's www.talksexwithsue.com. Sorry it took me so long. There is a forum/board on there so... maybe someone that goes on there can help you out or give you some more/other ideas to try. Yeah, thyroid problems can be a royal pain! There are a couple of varieties, but I've got hypothyroidism.

I don't know what to tell you about the fleshlight business. Does she realize that men typically have high sex drives and have "needs" in that department. I mean; guys really have to get off! From what I understand, if a guy doesn't, they can get "blue-balls". Am I correct on that? Anybody?

I'm sorry that she said that to you. That was pretty harsh (if you ask me.) I hope that for your sake she can start to losen-up a bit and give you a little slack. The Aneros is not "weirdo shit"; it's just exploring something that feels good and has the added health benefit for your prostate on top of that. Maybe bring that up to her. I know I mentioned that to my hubby on Sunday. I told him that these weren't meant as sexual aids to begin with, that they were first perscribed as prostate messagers to help men who were having prostate problems; i.e. severely slowed urination, enlargement, etc... (am I right on that too?) Anyway, I just told him that they were perscribed for that first and then the sexual "side effects" just happen to be a bonus! I could tell that he was interested and thinking about what I was saying.

CW - I wouldn't say that you've let her down. She just needs to realize that maybe what she's come to expect as "manly" (whether by learning it from media, family, her own thoughts, etc...) may not be the way it is for you, your individual self. Manly can come in all sorts of shapes, sizes, dimensions, ethnicities, religious backgrounds, you name it. What is manly to one group of individuals may not be to another. Hell, you could even look up during the Roman times (if I remember correctly from a program I watched on t.v., but don't quote me on it 😕 .) If I remember correctly, during Roman times, the adult men would take on young men/boys and "teach" them the ways of being a man. If you get my drift. Then once their teachings were done, the students went on to being a "man" and marrying, having a family, children, etc... And Catholocism (sp?) (Roman Catholics) came from that! Holy shit! lol

It is amazing how sexually open people had been in the past and how uptight people are now. Granted the U.S. is one of the more uptight nations (no red-light district, very few legal nude beaches, only one place in the whole country is prostitution legal, etc...) but, you can find a lot of those things in foreign countries. I can't remember which country it was; either Japan or China (I think) that they are very open about sex. They have t.v. shows depicting it; culturally, men are allowed to have extramarital sex, as long as they pay for it (it's not o.k. if there are emotional ties.) I don't know about women and extramarital affairs. and the information goes on and on and on. That information came from a show I watched on a channel called G4 (it's on channel 191 on the Dish Network) the show was called Wired for Sex and the next time it's going to be on is Friday the 4th at 11:00 & 11:30 p.m. CST. Where I got the Roman information was from the History Channel I believe.

Thanks Onthepath - that sounds like that could be a really good informational book! Thanks!

Anyway, it's late (11:45 p.m.) here and I need to get some sleep! I hope the info I gave you helps some CW. Good luck!

Take care all, have a good rest of your week! --- C

crimsonwonder...

i doubt you'll change her mind on this issue..she see's it as a not normal manly thing to do ...good luck man..i had to divorce my first wife as she kept throwing that shit in my face with every argument...i'm gonna tell all ur friends ur queer n all that kinda verbal abuse...fuck her..lol...i'm happy now..shes miserable...good for me n vicki..fuck her...good riddance i say...

evil-zombie:Yeh you might be right...man I sure hope it doesnt come to that! I dont get threatened like that at least...whew sounds like a real cow! No love lost there I see hehehe.

mm's Wife:Thanks for the link!! Will check it out 🙂 Sorry to hear about the hypothyroidism....thats some nasty stuff!
With regards to the fleshlights...I originally got them cos I wasnt getting enough sex and I was getting tired of Mrs Palm and her five daughters. Her first reaction to them was "Am I not good enough??" and since then she doesnt want to see them or hear about them, but she has caught me a few times late at night, just shakes her head and goes back to bed.

Blue-balls.....is umm *looks around for help here!* lol its us guys getting so horny after lack of sex we tend to want to shag just about anything with two tits and a hole....and especially when alcohol is involved...lets say all proper thought goes right out the window......and you know why? Cos at any given time....us guys have 14000 times more hormones in our blood than females! (saw that on Discovery channel hehe...explains alot really...)

Maybe I should tell her how its a medical device and not a sex toy....not right now tho..she still very tender about the whole thing.

LOL @ Roman Catholics! Scary huh hehehe..... Yeh dont agree with the whole extramarital sex stuff....Marriage should be for two people and faithfull to each other....kinky sex aside....

Thanks mm's Wife..Have a great week too!

Onthepath:Thanks! Will take a look-see 😀

CW..

i really wouldn't give up on marriage if other than this issue ..you guys are bonded..love sex together...otherwise happy together...if thats the situation...i'd give up my aneros's before my wife...

CW, your welcome. Glad to help, if I can. I can understand why she said "am I not good enough?" Because, well..., we feel that way. Sometimes it can be hard for us to understand a guys high sex drive. Maybe if we had as much testosterone surging through our veins we'd be equally as horny. But then we'd have hairy chests and facial hair and certain parts of our body would grow that we wouldn't necessarily want growing! (and I'm not talking about building great definition in your arms either!) I remember one time... my hubby and I had had sex the night b4, then the next morning and then later that day I "caught" him masturbating. ????? I just couldn't fathom how he could be horny! lol - I was spent and well satiated... how the hell could he be horny?!?!?! lol

LMAO! *looks around for help here!* - thanks for the info on blue-balls - I had always assumed that it was that a man didn't get off (in any way) for too long and the pressure just built up to a point of extreme pain. As for two tits and a hole; I've heard of it as a hole and a heartbeat! lol

Yeah, I thought the Roman Catholic thing was funny; sorry if I offended anyone. I will say in my defense that I grew up Catholic and went to church and Sunday school and the whole thing.

And yes, hypothyroidism sucks!

-C

There's another saying I learned a long time ago...just to share cuz it's kinda/sort funny and I do try to live by it to a certain extent ----- never assume because it makes an ass out of u and me ---- do you get it? lol

If I'm not back on till Sunday night or Monday - have a good weekend everyone!

p.s. - last weekend on Saturday I went and saw The Vagina Monologues and it was such a good show! Funny!!!, interesting, poingant (sp?), a little sad in one spot (but it had its place), and well worth the money ($8.00 U.S.) If you have a chance to see it, I think/hope you'd like it and get something from it. Everyone has a Mom. And, I believe it could help you understand us a little. If anything, you could say that your bringing your wife, spouse, gf to be a good supportive husband, spouse, bf. Then if you didn't like it or get something from it - you still look good in their eyes cuz you were willing to go, had brought them to it, or had come up with the idea. I know, I know.... I sound like a woman. Well, that's cuz I am one, silly! LOL 😛 I will say, I have never heard the word vagina said as many times in my life as I had there in just an hour and a half! Also, how many different ways/words/names you could say for a womans "down there"! LOL

C : LOL @ how the hell could he be horny! I used to get that a lot....

Hole and a heartbeat works too......Actually its very shocking as to what guys will put their penis into when they are horny enough!!(Vacuum cleaners, grapefruits, socks, apple pies, melons, pillows, bubble wrap...the list goes on and on lol)

On the buildup...actually I find that after a certain lengthy period of time, normally 10 days and on wards, the hormone level seems to drop slightly and level out ....yeh you want it? But its not like you willing to hump a tree with a hole if if so much as looks at you. After a very long time, you just not horny....weird as it sounds.....I'm talking like 3 weeks here and more...some days are worse than others...

Not very religious so go right ahead and poke some fun mm's wife! Gently of course!

We have a saying here too....."Assumptions is the mother of all fuck ups!"

We had it here last year!.....or was it the year before... Wanted to see that show but it clashed with my schedule so I couldn't 🙁 Heard it was very funny!

evil-zombie:We not married! 7 years dating and I'm still not sure if she's "the one"? Anyhoo....

CW - vacuum cleaners?! Ouch!!! I would think that would hurt! 😕 I like your Assumptions saying! Yeah, I did enjoy The Vagina Monologues and I laughed a lot. But, I will say, that when I mentioned it to my brother this weekend (and he's pretty cool on stuff) - he thought it was stupid. Granted he said he only watched 5 minutes of it (it was on cable t.v. or a movie channel), so I don't think it was fair for him to call the whole thing stupid when he only saw 5 minutes of it. But, I guess I will recind my endorsement of it for you guys. But, if anyone has happened to see it and has enjoyed it or got something from it, that would be nice to know.

CW - I was watching The Today Show this morning and on there they had a sex therapist. Her name was Laura Berman. I can't believe I didn't think to mention her and her sister to you. They used to have a show on t.v. called Berman and Berman. I think her sisters name was Jennifer. One sister was more on the physical side of sex and the other was more on the psychological side. You could Google Laura Bermans name and see what you come up with. I'm pretty sure she is located in Chicago, Illinois. One of the things that she mentioned on The Today Show was that only 30% of women are able to have an orgasm during intercourse. I was surprised, I thought the number was lower. They asked why it was that some women could and some couldn't orgasm during sex and a couple of the things that she mentioned were the womans anatomy and how long the man could actually have intercourse for. I can't remember what else she said. You could check the website - I believe it's www.todayshow.com - a lot of times they have information or articles on there from that days guests. Did you have any luck with the Talk Sex with Sue website?

As for how things are going for my hubby.... He doesn't say much and I don't know that he gets in many sessions a week. I think once maybe twice. As far as he tells me, he's still having just the shaking/twitching thing going on. I think that that is involuntaries or mini-O's ??? Am I right, anyone.

Anyway, have a good week everyone!

-C

C (musicman’s wife),

I have seen the HBO production of Eve Ensler’s “The Vagina Monologues” (which will be on HBO Signature this Thursday, 3:30a.m. EST BTW) and thought that it was very good, thoughtful, funny and at times saddening. There is no reason to withdraw endorsement of it just because one male (your brother no less) made a snap judgment based upon an incomplete viewing. I would recommend that every man who would like to understand better the female psyche at least take the time to view it. He will undoubtedly come away from the experience a bit more informed about sexual issues that women deal with themselves and perhaps that in the long run will make his relationships with women better in the future.

C: Don't look at me I wouldn't know lol! I've thankfully never tried any of those!

I did look on that site you gave me and it was a bust, site doesn't look very active and not much to read, its all pointing to her books and stuff...but oh well! Hmmm well check out the today show site thanks!

Yeh its quite sad hey, I used to make love 1 to 2 hours with my gf...and she still can't orgasm, no matter what I tried...ticklers, dildo, grinding, the 1 deep 9 short to 9 deep 1 short technique, music, extended foreplay...you name it I've probably tried it! She enjoys it all, but just cannot seem to get over and orgasm when just using vaginal intercourse! Intensely frustrating! Now days we normally take 30 mins roughly?

But here is a quick update...she started taking the fish oil capsules last week and we have now stepped up the initial dosage...so she is now taking about half the dosage suggested by zaneblue and she has remarked that she has been feeling slightly hornier than usual......shweet!

Yeh please let us know how your hubby is doing! Lucky sod is already getting involuntary's?? Sheesh I've had my Helix and MGX over a year and 14 sessions under my belt and I got nothing cept a slightly burning ass every time! But I'm working on it thanks to Virg and his coconut oil suggestion so my ass isn't burning any more at least hehehe....I'm hoping that is what was holding me back so forward! Always forward! 🙂

Go and watch Articwolves Aneros super-O video if you havent already.....Its intense! I cant even imagine what a turn-on that would be for you to see your man getting that much pleasure!

Anyhoo have an awesome week!

Rumel, thanks so much for your post! What you said made me feel better. After my brother said what he had said, I felt foolish for even mentioning it on here. Not that that was why I haven't been on and/or posting. It's just been busy here, sick kids, etc... and I haven't even been on the computer much at all. I am glad to hear that you did get something from it. There were men (younger and older) that were at the event that I was at and I watched them when it was done to see their expressions and they did not seem like they couldn't get out of there fast enough. So... I kinda figured that because all the guys on here seem so open-minded about stuff, that I would mention it and... so I did. Then my brother, who is usually really cool about stuff said what he said and I thought 😳 , sorry that I mentioned it. Thanks anyway. 🙂

CW - Sorry that the Talk Sex w/Sue site was no good. Oh well, at least it was worth a try. Right? Wow, I keep learning stuff... 1 deep 9 short to 9 deep 1 short. Never heard of that one, but I think I can figure out what you mean 😉 . I finally just today got my copy of The Orgasmic Diet. I haven't had a chance to look through it yet, but will over this weekend. I've already got my Dove chocolate! lol

Ohhhhh! Good deal on the fish oil and the effects of it! Glad to hear it for you! I sincerely hope you are still having the same or better effects since the last time you posted. 😀 Once I get a chance to look over the book I'll be able to add the oil. Every little bit helps.

As for the involuntaries.... y'know he doesn't really tell me what is going on. I can see the effects of it, but not that if he's making it happen or if it's happening to him. That's why I put all the question marks at the end. I did buy him the MGX model recently, but I don't know if he's used it yet. I'm curious to know if there is a difference for him. Maybe it will be better!???? Maybe this weekend he/we will find out.

You've got my attention! Where would I go to see Articwolves video????? Very curious!

Thanks much for keeping in touch! Take care and have a great weekend!

C

C: Ahh its kewl...no worries...I'll find a site sooner or later heheh.

That technique is also very good for the guy cos just counting the strokes will stave off orgasm so he doesn't cum too quickly...well it does for me anyway lol

Unfortunately not much of an improvement on the fish oil side...she taking only little bit more now and aside from her being wet for no reason during the day...her libido has not increased much....*sigh* But zaneblue says for woman it takes a month at least so I'm remaining hopeful...Oh and ya the chocolate plays a large part....she said that when she ran out of chocolate she definately noticed a drop in her horniness level....

Please let us know how your fish oil intake goes...and if your hubby enjoys the MGX more than the Helix??

The post for the video is here:
http://www.aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2793&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

No prob.....have yourself an awesome weekend!!

CW, sorry for not getting back sooner, it was my turn to be sick. I have been reading my Orgasmic Diet book and in it is listed the website for Jennifer and/or Laura Berman; www.bermansexualhealth.com (also www.fsdinfo.org - which I believe the fsd stands for Female Sexual Dysfunction) they may both be helpful to you. I read in Buttercups thread that you said that your gf said that sex with/for you is not her problem. I am so sorry. Buttercup was right, if you are important to your gf and she cares about you and your feelings...and your desire for her, then she needs to take this part of your relationship into more serious consideration! I truly feel for you.

I know for my hubby and me, when we had our rough patch around 6 years ago, it was a combined problem for both of us. I had had our 2nd son, quit smoking, replaced cigarettes with mini m&m's and then my thyroid went to hell (the latter three at the same time.) Needless to say, I put on all the weight I had lost after having our son. Even though I wanted sex and needed his touch and needed him. He was not truly physically attracted to me anymore at that time and was barely even affectionate. I was extremely lonely and felt alone. Then add on to that that he still had a strong sex drive, but instead of coming to me to fill that need he went on the computer to adult websites and live webcams, etc... Eventually, I truly believe it became an addiction. He didn't want sex with me, but would spend around 4 hours a night on weekends looking at porn and masturbating and any other time he could the rest of the week. My loneliness and his lack of desire for me was crushing. I was to a point of deciding whether to divorce him or not and it was leaning toward. I felt so alone and miserable. I know what it feels like to be rejected. That was when I wrote my letter to him. We had to talk and make our comprimises. I would work at getting the weight off and he would get of the computer. We have had some issues come back up over the years, but have dealt with them. I NEVER,EVER want to go back to that place and feel that kind of pain or rejection again.

Anyway! I will be getting my fish oil this weekend. What I already have is not very good and/or refined and need to get better quality stuff (I just started taking the lower grade stuff anyway just to get a leg-up.) As for the MGX, he said he's only been able to use it once and couldn't really tell, so.... no news yet for ya. I have been suggesting to him to try new, different positions... telling him about what all the guys on here do or are trying... the thread with the one guy who puts his hand/fist under his pubic region and lays on his belly and massages/stimulates his prostate from the front, and also to try just being on his belly and also on his back but with his legs straight up in the air and also kneeling by the side of the bed but with this chest over the bed and even just walking around with the Aneros in....

That was quite the video for Arcticwolves! It said on the site that it was about 3-1/2 min long, but it would stop on my computer at about 2-1/2 min. So I don't know if I missed anything or not. I kinda felt intrusive watching though. Interesting though.

Take care,
-C

interesting...my puter cut it off too short..oh well..was right after seeing it i tried my new finger trigger spot thing and got the same results..lol..i thought it was acted or something cept i was on my back not stomach...shit..its real....total convulsing..who knew?

C: No problem! Sickness gets all of us at some point!

Checking out those sites as I type this thanks! 😀

Umm as for her taking part...I dunno hey...like I said in buttercups thread...getting the feeling she is not attracted to me any more and so sex just doesn't interest her.......Thanks!

Wow and you also seem to have gone through hell and look where you are...(deja vu?) hehe
She has also quit smoking 2 months ago due to our 4 month old son disliking the smell of the cigarettes and coughing(never mind that I tried to get her to quit many times over the years) and as bad as it sounds..all this stuff happening to her, giving birth, quitting smoking, feeding our son at ungodly hours of the morning etc etc All this means nothing as the problem started more than 4 years ago! Just really the last two have been terrible....and I've reached a point where I don't know if I want to even try to make it work any more? I'm determined to get these super-o's...and if my usage of the Aneros bothers her...then I dunno...she must get used to it....or walk out the door...and yes I have told her this and her response was "I just don't want to see you doing it" but she gets into a foul mood for at least half the day after every session I do!

Anyway enough about that!....I saw that Zaneblue is taking the OmegaRX fish oil in liquid form and thats like 2500mg's a day! With just two teaspoons worth! Give that a try if you can as currently that's the best on the market....

Yeh I cant seem to find a good position for me yet...my ass is still just slightly sore after each session
and thats about it for the moment!

The vid is 3:48 mins long! There was two hectic orgasms..one right in the front and one right at the end.....Intrusive...naaa.....funny as hell...yup!! (note the jealous overtones 😛 )

Cheers for now..have a good one!

CW, have you told your gf/fiancee that you feel that she isn't interested in you anymore? Yeah, I will agree, having a baby, quitting smoking, and MY GOD! the sleep deprivation!!!!! alone can kill a sex drive, but like you said, it was this way even before you had the baby and/or she got pregnant. All I would know what to do in your case would be to talk turkey (have you heard of that saying? It just means to put all your cards on the table, let them lay where they are and see what shows up.) Ask her what she is truly feeling. Tell her you want to know, need to know. What is bothering her and why. What you can do to "fix" it. I know those all sound like one sided fixes (and you being the one side.) I just hate to put words in her mouth when I don't have a clue what is going on inside her head. Maybe anything and everything you do will never make her happy. I don't know. And only she can really help you unlock what is going on inside her head.

If I still had my note that I wrote that one time I would type it down for you but, I will tell you what I remember writing at one point. I just wrote that because I didn't feel that he was there (mentally, emotionally, even sexually) for me at that time, that I couldn't promise that I could or would even want to be there for him at some time in the future. I know it sounded harsh, but it was the truth as I was seeing it. I felt my feelings for him closing off and dying and it was painful. Like my heart being ripped from my body. The pain was a palpable physical being.

Moving on.

I'll have to look into the OmegaRX - I wonder how spendy it is. I did buy some from GNC and payed quite a bit for it and then when we went to Sam's Club, I found something there for actually a higher amount of the Omega 3 than the GNC stuff. And CHEAPER! Will be going back after I'm done with the GNC stuff.

As for your butt being sore. Do you think that maybe you just aren't relaxed enough? Or do you think it is the lube you are using?

LMAO!!! yeah the video was a little on the shocking side, but EZ said he had something similar so... maybe it's not too far off what the best Super-O is supposed to look like. *shrugging* I'll never know 😛 I don't have a penis or a prostate 😆

As for intrusive... well... I had another new experience this last weekend that was again on my scale of things kindof intrusive. I went to my first strip joint! Yup! I got some balls (I still don't have a prostate or penis, but I got balls!!! LMAO!!!) and I went to my first strip club. Well.... I will admit that at first I had to. Yes, I had to. I went to go and see a comedian perform in a city by where I live and where he was performing was connected to where the strip club was. He was performing in an old part of an old theatre on the lower level and the strip club was on the upper level with a lobby dividing them. So before the comedian was to take the stage and perform I figured I'd better go to the bathroom cuz I didn't want to miss anything. So I went out into the lobby and looked around and asked where the women's bathrooms were and the guy said that they were upstairs. 😯 😳 I thought to myself, well... that's one way to go to a strip club. lol Well, I went up, but didn't see anybody on the stage but on my way to the bathroom there was a young woman giving a guy a lap dance. I kinda lost it and started to laugh 😆 I guess that was my response to feeling uncomfortable. It was funny though and embarrassing. Then I left and went back to the show.

The comedian, whose name is Tim Badore, was flippin hilarious!!!! I don't know if anyone reads this post anymore except CW, but if you ever get a chance to see Tim, do it!!! he was so funny! I can't wait to see him perform again! If your curious and you've heard of the Bob and Tom show, Tim is on every Wednesday morning. You can also find a link to his website through www.bobandtom.com.

Anyway, after seeing Tim, we then went out to the lobby and I hemmed and hawed. It was really hard to overcome my nervousness about going upstairs not only by myself this time, but with my hubby now. A whole different ball of wax. Well... I/we did go up and sat there while he had a drink. I don't know that I was turned on but I did find some stuff funny. Mainly how some of the men would act around the women, particularly the drunk men. *shrugging* I needed something to laugh at to take the edge off. It was quite the experience. I was surprised at what the women would do and what I saw. Also how casual the men were and how they didn't even look slightly uncomfortable looking at women up on a stage. It was unlike anything else I have ever experienced. The one simple thing I was surprised by was how well lit it was. I kinda figured it would be darker (like any other bar) and that the women on stage would be the only thing more lit up. But, nope, you could see from one end of the club to another with no problem. lol I think I was figuring it would be easy to sit somewhere and not be seen and/or noticed - how wrong I was! At one point my hubby even said to me... don't turn around, just don't turn around; and all I could think was "OH MY GOD! someone I know is here and how in the hell am I gonna explain this?!?!" then he said, you have a womans naked butt by your head. lol - God! I was about to have a heart attack! I told him not to scare me like that again! lol We also went to a different club after that and that one the women seemed more classy and they at least didn't do their lap dances out in the open. That had to have been the most uncomfortable part of it all. Seeing that. I think if I saw something like that all the time it would be no big deal, I would get numb to it to a point, but for the first time it was a weird thing to see.

Anyway... I did feel kindof intrusive watching the women. Wrong in some way. Like I shouldn't be there. My hubby loved it! lol He grabbed a cardboard coaster that had the establishments name on it as a souveneer. LOL 😆 Do I know if I'll go back to a strip club again? ????? I don't know. I know that he would like to buy me a lap dance, but I honestly don't know if I would be comfortable with that or not. Part of me says yes, part says no. I do know that I keep pushing myself to do things at least once that scare me or put me out of my comfort zone just to say that I've had the experience before I write something off completely. **sigh** Well... now I can cross of going to a strip club at least. lol Skydiving next?! WOOHOO!!! Bring it on!

-C

musicman-how bizarre to find you talking about going to a strip club on the same day that hubby and I were discussing them!

He had named the local ones he's been to, and when I asked if he would still be interested in going to one alone he said yes, without being able to explain why he would want to do so. I told him I couldn't understand that, and likened it to going to a restaurant to simply look at the food when you could go home and have a good meal, and that is truly how I feel. It's just beyond my understanding why a man in a good relationship would want to do that.

However, going to a strip club as a couple is a different story, so long as the feeling of being a couple is strong. I can understand it adding some spice to your relationship if you are viewing the women as a unit, but a man going alone who isn't single or at least in an unhappy relationship...it makes no sense to me.

I've been to these clubs with 2 different men. One man made me feel secure that he wanted no one else but me, and we enjoyed selecting women we both thought were hot looking and discussing them, and the sex after we left was terrific! The second man made me feel like he wanted any of the women he was looking at except me (to the point of totally ignoring me while we were there), and the sex afterward was nonexistent. Needless to say, there weren't many of these trips with the second man.

Even though we've discussed this before, hubby ended our discussion early today because he felt I was getting upset over this, when all I was trying to do was understand what the attraction would be for him to want to do this alone. He promised he wouldn't do it (I never asked for this, nor would I; if he wants to do it he wants to do it. Not doing it just because he thinks it will upset me doesn't change his wanting to do it.) and refused to discuss it any longer. I wish he hadn't because I'd really like to be able to understand it, but I guess it will remain one of those man/woman mysteries. 😥

musicman-how bizarre to find you talking about going to a strip club on the same day that hubby and I were discussing them!

He had named the local ones he's been to, and when I asked if he would still be interested in going to one alone he said yes, without being able to explain why he would want to do so. I told him I couldn't understand that, and likened it to going to a restaurant to simply look at the food when you could go home and have a good meal, and that is truly how I feel. It's just beyond my understanding why a man in a good relationship would want to do that.

Personally, I am not a fan of strip clubs, having lived with 2 strippers before and hearing all that they have to say about working there and the guys that come to the clubs. I think it is great and healthy that you have offered to go to the clubs with him, but remember that men and women are wired differently - men are more visual than women - women are more oriented towards touch. I know that it is hard for women to understand, and also to believe that watching naked women is not a big deal. Human bodies are interesting to look at, especially those of sexy women. Just because he wants to look at naked women it does not necessarily mean that he is looking for or even considering straying from your relationship. The same goes for viewing porn. Don't take it as a personal affront if your husband wants to go to strip clubs or view porn alone.

I'm not taking it as an affront-although I'm not too wild about the idea-nor am I concerned about him being unfaithful; if he wasn't unfaithful the whole bad part of our marriage he isn't going to start now, lol. I just don't understand the attraction of going alone. With a group of guys yes, as a bonding ritual (however juvenile it may seem to me). With me, as an enhancement to our love life, yes. Alone...I just don't get it.

This isn't a big issue, he rarely goes to these places anyway, it just came up in discussion and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. When I don't understand something that is important to me I tend to worry it to death until I get an answer; it's just the way I'm wired. 😀

Stripjoints.......are a big waste of money....I'd rather use that money on a fleshlight or something.... One buddy of mine is a stripjoint connoisseur! Told me once he blew three grand in one night .....ok admittedly he got to shag one of the strippers after getting invited to her house, but still....hell no! Rather upgrade my PC if I had that kinda money to throw around lol

Would be lying if I said I haven't been to one or two.....but I wasn't paying...and I was single!

Have to agree with buttercup on this one...I don't see why a happily married man would want to go to a strip club? Ok sure maybe you might get a tiny bit tired of seeing the same pussy day after day...but that's what see through lace panties and chocolate body paint is for!(Ok to set the record straight..I've never gotten tired of seeing it! lol)

Lol CW, frankly, if hubby had 3 grand to spare I suspect he'd rather spend it on his computer (or a wide screen HDTV) as well.

Lace panties and chocolate body paint huh? (Off to closet to check supplies...)

buttercup:lol...us men are simple creatures....boys and their toys!

C:Sorry I completely missed your post! (the eyes are the first to go with old age 😛 ) Awesome advice there(talking turkey?? dunno that one).....unfortunately that's been done a few times already and is what lead to the twice being told she doesn't know if she loves me part(read buttercup's "So anyway..." thread for the spilling of the beans!) as I was a big fan of sitting us down and talking about stuff between us to try to clear the air cos she would constantly think I was a mind reader and expect me to know why she was doing or acting the way she was at that time.

Ahhh I feel for you C......I went through that same thing, she would drive me nuts trying to figure out why she acted towards me like she did and what I did wrong, would spend hours agonizing over her actions and words and feel like I was being eaten alive from the inside out....love really does hurt! But it can also feel like your floating on the clouds when its being returned to you....

OmegaRX:
http://www.zonediet.com/products/productdetail/tabid/144/p-7-omegarx.aspx

If I could afford the cost and shipping/Import I would get this...but I cant.... 😡
Rand to the Dollar is just too high these days!

Yeh figured out it was the vaseline that was causing the burning.....didn't make me purge but it was like a mild curry burning while having the Aneros inserted. I'm sorted now as I'm using coconut oil...no burning...but I'm struggling to insert it with just the oil!

lol @ balls! A comedian performing in to a strip club....that's like a double bonus for most guys!
ROFL @ your smilies and laughing! The stripper probably thought you were laughing at her cellulite and the dude probably thought you were laughing at the size of his tent lol

Ahh if its well lit then it should be a decent place, the girls aren't afraid of being seen under the lights...its the darker places you gotto worry about hehe. Thanks will check out that site! Umm with nearly 5 thousand views....I think a lot of people read this post C!

LOL Shame the expression on your face must have been hilarious! Nawty hubby!

Wrong? Yeh maybe...its more geared for men then woman but if you go as a couple it should be fine! One of the strip clubs I went to with some buddies once has a ladies and a gents section....I would feel the same as you I would imagine if I wondered into the ladies one and saw some guy's naked ass doing the hula in front of some woman!

Glad your hubby enjoyed it...its much better to go with your partner and not always have to look over your shoulder and wonder if any of her friends are there and see you in a strip club! Not that that has happened to me, I would get castrated if I even hint towards going to a strip club! Wow he wants to buy you a lap dance??? Are you sure he's not playing out a threesome type fantasy thing in his head while watching that?? I would! (Cant help it...its a guy thing hehe)

Yup make a list of things to do before you turn 60...and then do them! Skydiving....whew I haven't even bunji-jumped before! Good luck with that! lol