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Okay I believe you that the aneros is vibrating very fast.


   
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nooo, i didn't say 'vibrating' i said it moves/contracts very fast with each 'grip' or contraction, or rather that my muscles are making it move fast as the former would suggest the aneros has a life of its own rather than an inanimate object.

When i contract my muscles, the 'tug of war' between the muscles, if its done strongly enough the device goes into overdrive, it feels like each time i 'hold' it in the device is in and out (remember it doesn't come out much, very subtly) very, very rapidly, even when i try to stop it doing so, its something i DO NOT like and WANT to stop as it 'overloads' any kind of detection of subtle feelings i may be getting, but this is the way it's always been.


   
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Ive had another session since, when the fizzing or whatever rises or the heightened arousal, whatever you want to call it happens i notice that, well, nothing happens i just get turned on and then….. it stops each subsequent one is then half as long and half as nice.

Sadly i tensed too hard after 2 hours of waiting for something to happen and ejaculated, couldn't help it or stop it, just happened. Why does nobody else have this happen? the orgasm is almost always CRAP, its like the aneros is muffling the feelings, however the build up is rather nice, but nothing special.


   
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inhope,

I'm new to the forums, but just read this post (longer than I expected when I clicked on it). It sounds like you are making good progress. For the previous week, it felt like I was going to cum, but didn't. It was kind of frustrating. Last night, I had some dry orgasms. So if you feel like you are right there, you might very well be.

In my limited experience, any tensing at all will kill the involuntary contractions your body is doing. The more you want it, the worse it gets. You should probably just focus on the involuntaries that are happening and the pleasurable sensations you are getting, and try to amplify them WITHOUT tensing or any affirmative action on your part.

As far as where your prostate is. I have a crystal wand I use for CPPS work. It's much longer than the Aneros, but easy to use to feel around. Perhaps you can buy one so you can find out exactly where your prostate is and what it feels like when pressed. I can't really feel the Aneros on my prostate much at all while using it, but I know it's doing stuff. With the wand, I can actually push directly on it (it hurts when pushed - and makes me feel like I'm squeezing my urethra too hard, like a pinch at the top of the penis). A little self exploration may make you discover some useful muscle groups around the prostate.

Overall, it sounds like you are building pleasurable feelings now. Have you tried dozing off with the feelings intact? I know that's hard to do, but yesterday, I dozed off while having an Aneros-less session, and I ALMOST had a prostate orgasm when I started drifting off. It was as if I totally let go, and that's when my body decided to do it. Perhaps you can do some relaxation once you get yourself close to coming; just stop, and then put on a relaxation and breathing CD. If you can distract yourself and relax, perhaps you'll discover some new sensations. But ultimately, I think you want to be paying attention to your session rather than distracting yourself from it. You'll want to relax into the pleasure (however small) and just focus on it with breathing and low tension.

Also, I learned that porn is distracting. Once I get sufficiently awoken, I need to turn it off, otherwise I can't focus on the session or relax enough.


   
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interesting @mdad can i just ask, do you use porn every time to get 'awoken' then switch it off? i find doing this method kills things for me, just dead. I need to start without porn i think but somehow be turned on as much as watching it...


   
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inhope, no, I don't look at porn to start my sessions for the most part. It is far too distracting, and I don't relax while doing it. I want my mind to drift into the sensations of the aneros, not actively looking to hop on the next thing that shows up on my screen. I can see how turning it off mid-stream can be a big mood killer if you were basing your arousal solely on it.

One thing that I have noticed is that looking at porn makes me focus on penile sensations, and not prostate sensations. I think it activates the very thing I'm trying to not activate.

One thing I've done is look at porn for a few minutes, then put it away, wait a couple minutes to establish some separation, and then start the Aneros session. From then on, I just close my eyes.

As a side note, I've found that reading about sex allows my prostate to become far more aroused than looking at pictures. For example, I'll type in a search in google such as "favorite sexual experience" or "first time experience" or something like that, and read people's posts. This gets me very aroused. But it is more of an emotional arousal than a visual one. It's qualitatively different, and I feel it more in my prostate. I find it easier to transition to the Aneros from this than looking at pictures.


   
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This is a great suggestion, i am going to try that @mdad, thanks!


   
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Also do you tense your legs at all or tense the device? i often find when i do nothing i realise after a time that I'm tensing, it seems to require effort not actively not tense or on occasion push the device out a little to fight against the involuntary tensing of the muscle.

Also how long do you leave it between sessions? do you let things build for a certain time?


   
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Do you tense or just do nothing?


   
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I generally do nothing. I have not found tensing to do anything more than kill whatever involuntary contractions I was having. I might do tiny micro-clenches, but other than that, I try to do nothing. I actively try to keep my muscles from having spasms (the big jolts on top of the involuntaries), as those seem to have the same effect as intentional clenches. I probably am doing "something" by focusing on keeping the muscles from seizing up, but it's mostly in my mind.


   
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Today i made progress. After 4 years.

Every session i have now i feel 'something', not an orgasm or anything but a nice feeling, this is something i did not experience for 3.5 years, i felt nothing. I changed nothing, it just started to happen.

I had an experience today where i felt like i was experience the build up to an orgasm and it held at a sort of plateau for around 10 secs, felt great and then went away. There were times where the prostate and muscles would take over and the device would speed up, which kinda killed the feelings. I have to battle against it to force it to relax!

I came with a traditional orgasm, and it was very very nice. The feelings in my prostate are still quite nice even now some hours later, a nice warm/hint of orgasm feeling to it.

I used the SGX and Eupho today,with the eupho i felt the almost 'orgasm'


   
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good to hear. how do you like the SGX?


   
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I've owned it for years.... It's as good as any other aneros toy, they're all the same. I cannot say one is better than the other until i experience more pleasure


   
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Quite frustrated at the moment, each session I have feels good, at least for a few mins and then no feelings at all. out of session I getting feelings like I'm about to explode with orgasm but never does. Lasts for hours that.

Anyway back in session I feel like a newbie again, if I do nothing it feels good after a while but then stops. So when that happens I gently coax the device to move which generates a rather impressive erection and some great prostate feelings and then it makes my legs tense which I dont want because it means I will just cum normally, so I have to force my legs to not tense, it's weird.

Gently moving the device seems to be the way, is there a guide people here use other than b mayfields one? Strong motions kill it for me, but small ones actually fatigue me more but produce better results. I need some new things to try to get those feelings back, it always feels I'm on the edge of an orgasm, which makes me worked up, so I end up having one traditionally because after a while it's just too much.

in my defence: you try being on the edge of orgasm for 2 hours, let's see how you do!

Edit: small movements seem to produce nice feelings I'm so very close......

I also just found an education video on the aneros it must be BS though? as the device works within 30 secs on the guy and other weird stuff like she talks like it will work first time, no 'rewiring process', though it's helped me to visualise how I could use the device better. Here it is:

http://www.youporn.com/watch/487398/learn-all-the-enjoyable-things-to-do-with-his-prostate/

Edit: having a super session before and getting somewhere, trying new techniques etc and I decide to tense a little harder, this killed it. Dead. Pleasurable sensations wouldn't return no matter what I did. Is that normal?


   
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> in my defence: you try being on the edge of orgasm for 2 hours, let's see how you do!

You are seriously CLOSE! I know I've been lucky to not be at that stage for very long (a week), but that was the last hurdle for me.


In fact, I just wrote a post about my edge, and I determined it was the point where I was forcing things to try to happen and the point where things just started to happen on their own. So, if I were you, I'd try to relax when that edge is near, and just enjoy feeling yourself at that point. Pay attention to how your body holds that edge even when you aren't trying. And try to enjoy that knowledge. I guess I'm trying to say, don't work so hard to get over the edge. If you are going to work hard at anything, just work hard at trying to relax and keep your body at the tipping point. Almost like you are trying to cruise at 55MPH and keeping your foot ever so lightly on the gas peddle, but not really pushing. You are just maintaining with little effort.


Also, when you are at the edge, your body is sort of having an orgasm right there, just focus on that, and how the feeling at the tip of your penis stays sharp. At that point, imagine moving blood from the base of your penis right out to the top. Shoot the blood out the tip in your mind (gross, I know).


And most of all, RELAX. Stop worrying about past failures, future failures, and what you want to happen now. None of that baggage or expectation is going to help you. Just enjoy what you are having; it's way better than the NOTHING you had before. 🙂


   
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Agreed, I need to find a way to stop my penis taking over, it gets *so* hard during this point and I have to really think away from that area to get sensation, however it's difficult because it's so hard it causes tension in the skin and muscles connected to everything's which detracts sensation. I'm talking HARD, so much so it hurts a little!

How long between sessions should I do it, bare in mind I ejaculated at the end of this one..... I was just too horny after 3 hours of being on the edge... Didn't need porn that time, believe me (side note: the load I blew was epic! Didn't feel better than normal but it was a huge load!)


   
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I had one of my best sessions ever after having sex with my wife. So I don't know if ejaculation abstinence makes that much of a deal to prostate sensitivity or not. But everyone is different. You'll have to find your own balance there.

Do you wear underwear when doing the aneros? Sometimes I find that wearing underwear, or being beneath the blankets, can rub on my penis and cause penile stimulation when I don't want it to. If I can, I like to take my underwear off, and move the blanket off me (or make a teepee) so that NOTHING is touching my penis at all.

As to where to focus? I think you are probably OK. Have you ejaculated hands-free? Usually it feels like I am, but I just get dry orgasms. So unless you are having a problem of having wet orgasms instead of dry ones, you are probably OK not worrying about denying yourself ejaculation before using your Aneros.

If I was going to focus on anything penile related, I'd focus on trying to move waves of muscle contractions and blood flow from the root to the tip. Imagine the pleasure waves going from base and shooting out at the end.

And then also realize that the edge that you are at is just about it. It will get a little more intense, but you will not get that rolling over a cliff feeling you get from a normal wet ejaculation. With the dry orgasm, the edge feeling gets stronger and stronger, then backs off, and then comes back again. But you won't get a bunch of muscle contractions with it. As I said in my earlier post, when you are at this point, you have to relax and just realize that you are there; your body is there; and you just have to enjoy being there at that spot. When you can find yourself breathing slowly and relaxing, and the edge pleasure still being maintained, you've just about got it. Just hold it there as long as you can, and eventually, when the next round of contractions come, it will go just a little higher each time. And once you relax and enjoy that point, the "almost there" feeling becomes far more pleasurable and intense. Forget the work and enjoy the benefits!


   
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When I'm clothed I less aware if my penis, when I'm naked I notice. How do you make a tipi??

I was more concerned with why the feelings stopped and wouldn't return all of a sudden? Did you watch the video as well?

I'm also experiencing the edge feeling out of session, for many hours without trying, sounds great yeah? After 4 hours it's actually a problem


   
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> How do you make a tipi??

Hehe I just mean lift the covers up at that spot so it's not touching you, so there'd be a raised point where your penis is. Depending on what kind of blanket you have, this may or may not be possible.


> I'm also experiencing the edge feeling out of session, for many hours without trying, sounds great yeah? After 4 hours it's actually a problem


Again, I'm going to go with the "you are getting close" argument. Your prostate is stimulated, and it is getting more active, so this happens. Do a search on the forums for Aneros-less sessions, and you'll see how many people's prostates get out of control when they first start having success. I know mine is. Driving in the car is a whole new experience.


I guess, as frustrating as it is, it means you are getting close. Unfortunately, your body seems to be moving a glacial pace through all the stages, and therefore your edge stage is going to be longer than normal, too. I think you are close though!


   
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cheers Mdad, just worried that it will stop mid session like it did last time 🙂

Also very jealous of that guy in the vid where the device works straight way, what a douche he is!


   
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just had another session today, nice feelings but i notice only when i have an erection, without one i feel next to nothing.

When i move the device i need to do it quite quickly and small movements to feel something. Its a little tiring. But i don't feel any involuntatires, other than my right leg, ALWAYS my right leg, going mental and shaking, left one doesn't move at all hardly.

There is a barrier here but i can't quite figure out the quirks and eccentricities in order to overcome them, nothing seems consistent nor do my experiences parallel anyone else's here...


   
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from reading some of your older posts, you are having involuntaries, the tug of war and the very quick movements, though you say you get no pleasure from them. I think everything is working correctly and how it should but you need to remember the prostate orgasm is more or less a mind orgasm, you need to enjoy all of the subtle feelings and let everything go and just relax into these feelings whether pleasureable or not and eventually the pleasure will come. But dont be fooled this is one of the hardest parts of this journey, the letting go. I still struggle with it myself. But eventually it will click one day for you. Having an erection can be bothersome, i completley understand that, and there isnt much you can do about it other then to not focus on it. Leg twitching is normal too, again though try not to focus on it, instead try and relax even more and focus only on your prostate whether you feel anything or not. What position are you in when your legs twitch? I find laying down on my back with my legs spread slightly helps so my legs do not twitch, but if i raise them up and bend at the knee they will twitch like crazy.


   
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lying on my back causes the leg to twitch, the only time it doesn't twitch is when i am using the muscle i.e. standing up or kneeling, but i feel 100% of nothing if i do either of those.

I think its more physical than mental, this act of stimulation, again of move the device subtly i can feel things, if i focus my mind and do all the other hippy dippy BS people say here i get nowhere. its physical, plain and simple and the way to get this to work is to just be subtle and look for a certain type of feedback from the prostate.

One thing i can do though upon removal of the device is to tense my legs and i get the biggest boner ever and i am about 95% able to orgasm, hands free. Orgasm would be poor though if i did.


   
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I'll agree its both physical and mental, for example if a guy(assuming your straight) were to start jacking you off you would probably have a hard time ejaculating, the same goes for the prostate, even though its being massaged your mind has to be in the right place too, you have to be attuned to the pleasure and turned on. Im not talking about hippy dippy BS either lol, im talking about clear mind, focusing on the feelings and being relaxed, thats all, nothing else. I'll say one thing, you sure know how to have hands free orgasms! Whether they are pleasureable or not, there are ALOT of guys who wish they could do that, myself included, ive tried many times over the years and havent been able. At least once per session I will get extremely hard to the point where it almost hurts but nothing ever happens.


   
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