Wondering where i am / what i do next...

@inhope, since you apparently know all the information failings, why don't you write the instruction manual?

@inhope - Shea butter does have a shelf life. It won't stay perfect forever.

Read back a the fourth from the last post of mine on the main shea butter thread:

https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/10363

There'll be some of my own philosophies and ideas, so by all means disregard it as rubbish but,


Inhope, sounds somewhat like you're an 'armoured' type of Aneros user, like me; resonating with the Aneros (pleasure and sensations) is luck of the draw and what worked before never works again. Most sessions, all it feels like is the Aneros is just sitting there.

The Aneros is actually working the way it should - it's a matter of 'de-armouring' yourself to pick up on it. If you try and tickle yourself, you won't feel anything because you're expecting it - this is the same with the Aneros. De-armouring yourself is a multitude of things, but I'll list some barriers:


Emotional
This comes from stress, anxiety and frustration. Just like sex itself, it can really interfere with relaxation and no matter how much one tries, the bad noise from your emotional strain can screw with Aneros usage - even if it's a worry. Sometimes new discoveries can be made regardless but it's generally better to make oneself feel relaxed and happy - that way you can open the floodgates. Exercise is often a good way of combating stress and anxiety.


To help with combating noise activity in the mind - try staring into space, focusing on the sounds around you. I typically look at something boring such as the desk or corner of the wall.


Expectation
The main culprit, based on topics from others. (...and mine, boy) Aneros can provide unpredictable results and a lot of users report getting a Super-O unexpectedly. Getting hooked on how sweet that rush of pleasure last time felt is just anchoring your mind on it, and so any new sensations will be censored. Likewise, wanting the Aneros to give you pleasure as a means of stress relief is going to blow the session before it even begins. Keep a naive mindset - think of sessions as a last second decision, or something you don't have much care for. Be unprepared for the unexpected.


Abdomen
This is a peculiar point to bring up, but I do feel its important because 1. it's a muscle effected highly by breathing and voice, as well as tensing during arousal, and 2. there's links between emotional input and the abdomen. The term "butterflies in the stomach" applies here. I consider this the real armour against the Aneros, and it's no coincidence that proper breathing techniques can provide effective use of the device.


I personally believe that the abdomen is an insulator of pleasure - when sensations should flow from the anus onwards, the abdomen sucks it up like a sponge. (You'll notice it occurs as well when ejaculating - the abdomen tenses greatly, absorbing excess pleasure.) The 'breath of fire' technique typically resolves this issue with deep, consistent breathing. You'll feel it working when tingling/adrenaline vibes occur. Likewise, allow yourself to use your voice with low hums, or if your comfortable with it - exhales of your developing pleasure. Do it in a way that resonates with arousal though, don't go louder than you need to and follow it through naturally with your breathing pace. KSMO makes frequent points on this topic, check it out sometime.


Hope this is of some help.

Inhope, why are you so concerned with people who may lack access to the forum? You obviously have access, if someone doesnt have access, ie no internet, then they either choose to be offline or for some other reason prefer to live in the dark ages LOL. Lets all just calm down and remember why we are here, for FUN!

Im concerned because i never knew this place existed until about 6 month sin to owning an aneros! plus i have friends that live in parts of this country that have intermittent or no access to internet due to remoteness of their homes.

@DarkEngine, your post was particularly helpful. During my last session I realized that I has tensed but more than that I realized that some muscle group was "gripping' the SGX and holding it against my prostate. It was almost unnoticeable. I think it is an acquire tensing that is part of the Ejaculation experience as you mention. I worked on finding and relaxing these muscles and in the moments they did relax I felt I was at last on an edge. But even the slightest involuntary would tighten these muscles and I would have to start again relaxing them. It may be that a number of folk that don't seem to be experiencing any thing may in fact have to work on finding an relaxing this very, very subtle "gripping".
I hope my new discovery will take me somewhere.

After thinking about things and trying a few more times, i feel i have the right mindset now.

However just to share some things I've noticed and just to make sure I'm not doing something that is either damaging or hindering my new journey.

Firstly i find that when i put it in, if i lay on my back or go into the sitting position/with legs bent and feet touching together, or lying on my front with legs together, i find that it causes the aneors, or rather my internal muscles to go into some sort of overdrive, in which the device almost goes crazy in and out, in and out (though as described before, are micro movements, which i can feel if i put my hand on it as i tense). It doesn't look like what I've seen in videos where it looks as though being moved in violently! if i watch something arousing it goes even more crazy and approaches what is commonly known (and listed in the checklist) as auto-f**king! don't know what to think of that, its pleasurable but its also VERY tiring indeed, even when I'm doing it relaxed.

This in itself is pleasurable, but again after 1hr or so is exhausting. If i sit there and do 'the nothing approach' then i just get twinges, but not much else (which is totally ok by the way). I also then get that echoing all day every day even when not using the device, sometimes quite erratically.

Secondly i 'feel' something occasionally (days/weeks after a session), especially when i need to pee, its like a cold sort of feeling like my insides there are tired/fatigued OR its something else, something either thats good (its has a faint pleasurable sensation) or something thats suggestive of over exertion (like I've hurt myself somehow) its possibly more pleasurable than painful so its hard for me to gauge exactly whats happening, just want to make sure I'm not damaging myself in some way.

I think for my next sessions i need to do the above as what @isvara said and also what @DarkEngine originally said, which is not to tense so much! and have it move a noticeable amount more so that its hitting something rather than just pressing against the prostate area.

I also don't experience erections when using it, especially when tensing but again if i have something arousing to watch i then obviously do and the auto-f**ing movements are intensified, but once it starts, the erection promptly dissapears is this a reaction to being turned on and is normal for the body to do or the prostate itself getting excited (or are they one and the same? or is this a part of the rewiring process, my body knows where the pleasure zone is and its no just the penis anymore!? interesting nonetheless!)

I am just putting this here to remind me when i need guidance and when i visit this thread: "Subtle Gripping"

I look forward to your insights as always!

So another session today.
I started, just randomly getting a sort of mini o build up for no reason whatsoever, not actually in session yet. So i decided to watch some porn and see what it felt like in there, it was very good.


I thought then why not get the SGX too and see what happens, here is how it went and the things i noticed:


- i would get frequent SUPER and i mean SUPER hard erections, not seen the likes of those since i was a teenager. But ONLY when not tensing the muscle, just when I'm 'focusing' energy on the feeling of the mini o or whatever it is, its not quite something i can label an 'orgasm' yet but for now lets just call it a mini o.


- my tip of my penis was like on fire, like it was super hot during these erections and occasionally even when it was down too


- there is warmth inside somehow, very pleasurable

...continued

- there is an 'ache' and its pleasurable but there is a hint there of something almost not pleasurable as well, its hard to describe properly other than to say that i enjoyed that feeling!


- focusing on the mini o feeling which is constant,which mean the device almost didn't move or perhaps didn't move at all rather than the almost violent muscle movement yielded better results


- watching porn in this instance helped as it gave erections and pleasure in there, i did not feel the need to masturbate this time, not sure why.


- kneeling and standing seemed to be the only places it worked. a little bit on my side too, but better when standing.


- I actually got a fair bit of pre cum! very clear liquid. I found that i don't force the muscle like i have been doing int the past, i just hold it VERY subtly, a subtle grip at a certain point and it feels good and though no super o, the feeling good part lasts ages, its been 2 hrs and still feeling nice!


- watching porn has helped, making the prostate swell/keep me aroused!


This last bit is strange to say but: i feel i know what a super O feels like, ive not had one but i kinda feel i have expectations of what it will be like.


OK and now something amazing and also a teeny bit odd.


I just had my first orgasm using the aneros!!!! at last!!! it built up quickly and was helped along by tensing my legs, the orgasm was unlike anything I've ever felt before it was deep and intense! Afterwards i did not feel like i had had one though, i wasn't tired and felt i could have gone on for more!


Here is my problem, when i orgasmed... i ejaculated, despite the feeling not being in the penis, nor was i touching it, nor was it brushing anything. It was however exceptionally erect, moreso than its ever been in my life!


So that wasn't a prostate orgasm then? what happened? is this normal? have i made progress toward dry-os or away from them?

One thing i would add is that i felt my prostate, for the first time in three years i felt it, how big it was, where its positioned and what it feels like when the aneros makes contact. I even had a mental image of it in my head of what its colour was and its shape/texture is! weird i know!

In hope, it sounds like you're getting there. From my experience I'd say relax more and tense less. Try to think about any feelings you get down there & visualise your prostate. Good luck.

@Smokey ok great thanks, i will try that. Do you mean visualise prostate (that i've recently discovered how to do) and then tense, but tense less i.e. subtle grip?

one thing i would like to mention smokey, and its my biggest obstacle is this: when i half tense or do it subtly and focus on my prostate it immediately gives me an erection, which almost always focuses things then on the penis. If i tense hard the erection goes away and attention is elsewhere, but i don't felt any pleasure really when tensing hard, but at least its keeping me from looking at porn!

@inhope: same here. for me the erection is an arousal amplifier and a hinderence at once, especially in the tug of war. i feel the energy flowing from my tickling prostate to my penis, which automatically makes me tensing harder. i shiver and my legs cramp, but there is no good feeling.

@inhope, I'm no expert but I guess what I meant was relax & concentrate on the feelings inside, instead of the penis. Tensing might be trying too hard?

@Smokey the problem for me is if i don't tense i get aroused and if that happens i get an erection and it all becomes about the penis and it always ends the same way.

If i do tense enough/hard enough the erection goes away and i can concentrate on the prostate.

I think with most that time/experience/relaxation erections become less of a problem, though your penis will go thru different phases of flaccid to erect and back and forth during a session. I think when everything is new and exciting is when the erect penis jumps and tries to steal the show all the time, eventually that pass. The key is to just not focus on the penis no matter what state it is in, even if its completely hard and erect like its going to explode, dont let it become the focus! Penis NOT!

A bit of an update:

not experienced anything like i had before, had a fair few sessions too, just seems to only go so far (which isn't far!)

However i am noticing a few things (i think):

1. this might sound strange, or rather maybe I'm imagining it perhaps? but if i think about my prostate i can sort of 'activate it' not so much by doing anything physical, just by using my mind if i focus myself on that area, i get pleasurable sensations (nothing amazing but still something that i cannot discount as my imagination)

2. My erections when using the device are still MASSIVE, even if I'm not turned on, it seems to be doing something, the device doesn't have to move or anything but it gets me so hard it hurts sometimes, nothing has ever got me like that before, not even porn. I am told regularly here that erections are not good where using this device are concenerd, but i feel better feedback/pleasure from getting one with the device when having one.

3. When i tense (using the quick and dirty path to the super O method) i don't get what i see in videos: the device goes in for a second and is released, in and released... rinse and repeat. However when i tense, even gently -once... i it moves in and out 8 times a second, really quickly like its ultra excited. This is intensified if i have my legs flat and close together or if i touch feet to feet whilst lying down, which implies that it is something muscle related in the anus area. I kind of feel i want these slower movements, i just can't have them, all i get is rapid fire!

So there we are! any ideas anybody!? anyone with similar experiences?

anybody?

@inhope, gettting pleasureable feelings from your prostate from thinking about it is totally normal, in fact eventually you might be able to have aneroless orgasms with enough skill and practice.

I think most people do get erections from aneros use on and off, totally normal again. I personally know what your saying about extreme erections, though mine aren't like that so much anymore. I still get erections on and off, but I have learned to not get so excited, it is a good feeling but in the end will not do to much in the way of prostate orgasms, hence the penis not idea.

I'm not sure which video you are referring to, but consistent muscle twitching/flexing is what you are seeking. For me sometimes the most pleaureable feelings come from when you cant even tell what the device is doing, like it almost disappeared. Your muscles may still be in the learning phase, so give it time to sort things out. Hope that helps.

@ineverknew

When i talk about thinking about the prostate I'm mean no muscle or any movement down there, just 'thought' so you're saying i can perhaps one day have anerosless sessions whereby there is zero muscle contractions, just the power of the mind making it feel pleasure?

I should have more clearly stated this: when i get erections the pleasure in the prostate is increased, ten fold than opposed to it not being erect. In fact when its not erect i feel almost nothing/nothing at all, no matter how long each session or how frequently i do them.

The twitching has been with me for many many months, i don't see anyone else talking about it or showing it in videos, all the videos show the same thing: slow movement and erections too! but lots of pleasure.

I still don't feel any pleasure from this rapid movement, just nothing? i will keep giving it time and effort as always.

@inhope, Not sure, i can activate my prostate anytime I want by thinking of something that turns me on. My prostate will get fired up before my penis. As for orgasms without an aneros, thats tricky, ive done it a few times, but havent tried in a while. Some people do muscle contractions, I never did, once i got it turned on it would take off getting more and more pleasureable to the point of a dry orgasm. Think of it as a mind orgasm, cause in a sense your mind is doing most of the work. Not sure on the erections. I'm sure it does give you pleasure, but you may be focusing on the wrong thing. If you focus on your hard on, then your missing the pleasure coming from the prostate. As ive said before, pleasure from my prostate can be so good it causes an erection, but that tends to crowd out the prostate feelings for me and essentially stops my prostate massage, so not good, for me at least. Though I've read alot of guys get massive erections during a super O, so not sure. Maybe your having a super O and dont realize it? LOL
Twitching is completely normal. I used to twitch something crazy, you can learn to calm and relax yourself so they are not so extreme, but they can sneak up on you sometimes out of the blue if things get too intense.

Its almost like I'm having a super o but not feeling the pleasure or something hah!

Anyways, the slow movements i see people doing is what i get the difference is for every one 'take in' and release i get 3 or 4, its like a benny hill version of what they're doing! I feel this is barrier somehow, its too quick that i cannot control it and thus not feel anything at all.

So you're saying when you clench/tense (i assume you're not a 'do nothing' approach) you get a slow movement and not a fast one like i described above?

I used to get that alot, and still do frequently, like you have all the hallmarks of a super O but no pleasure, thats pretty much what a super O "is", but WITH the pleasure LOL. The only difference is letting go, though if you figure out how to do that, then your golden. Its also kinda scary the first few times because you know something big and scary might happen.

Not sure what you mean by slow movements. I am a do nothing practitioner, though lately been trying some contractions when things get boring, not much to report though, my body has always been pretty good at starting the involuntaries almost immediately upon insertion. My involuntaries are usually pretty slow, you can feel them, but very subtle. Once in a while things will get crazy and i'll get what they call auto fucking, where its just pumping in and out fast and hard, but very rarely. Sometimes my invluntaries are almost undetectable, and that can be when things get crazy, like dry O"s/super O's. I know its all confusing, it still is for me for the most part!

Anyways, the slow movements i see people doing is what i get the difference is for every one 'take in' and release i get 3 or 4, its like a benny hill version of what they're doing!

Undercranked and underscored with the tune of "Yackety Sax"? What an interesting life you lead. 😉

wow just sitting as i type this, with my aneros in and having mini orgasms/superb feelings in the prostate area for the last 30 mins or so,... not sure where the hell they have come from??? just felt pleasure for some reason and then decided to see what the aneros would do to enhance it. A lot apparrantly.

Lots of leg shaking and other stuff/involuntary movements. Seems it only works when I'm sitting though? very happy right now i can tell you....! bit of precum too. Oh and still got massive hard ons, not thinking about having one or watching anything, just working on the computer, not even really turned on. WIth the erection though comes the waves of total awesome pleasure as i type this!

No super-O yet though 🙂

Seems i am at the mercy of my prostate. If i want a session then nothing happens, nothing at all. Rubbish.

So what i do get is random waves of pleasure and mini-o's at total random at some point in a random day, not with a device or looking at anything arousing, it just happens without my consent or control. So thats when i need to use the device and i do get (minor) results, but only when my prostate allows me to do it. (these are so rare though its beyond silly)

Again I'm the only person her reporting this, why is it I'm having random/weird/undocumented stuff happening all the time? its getting a little bit on the tiresome side!

sounds like your beginning to rewire, to me anyways. It was common for me in the beginning too, the pleasure feelings would come out of nowhere even if i had no device in, eventually that will come more only when your aroused.

"random/weird/undocumented stuff" sounds better to me then normal/boring/routine, but hey, thats just me! Is the glass half full or half empty?

Well use it is preferable to sessions ending in disappointment, though that still happens.. at least with this its something, rarely something anyway, so for that i am pleased.

I feel that the session I'm having always end in disappointment therefore i didn't feel a sense of progress, though its clear i have made some. I also don't mean disappointment in the sense of 'oh no orgasm again then' but more in the sense that the device doesn't feel its doing anything of any kind, pleasurable or-otherwise. This is still the case even now, but when my prostate wants it, it lets me know and i am a slave to it, i am its bitch. (lol)

your attitude can facilitate whether you have a good/bad session, make sure you are in the right frame of mind when having a session. If you arent feeling it, then just hold off and do it some other time. I would also suggest the same thing if you are consistently feeling in the back of your mind that its going to be a dud, you know the self full-filling prophecy thing, it can affect your sessions too. Maybe give it a two week break and come back refreshed and full of renewed vigor towards opening up your mind and just enjoying the subtle feelings you are getting and not worrying so much about what may or may not happen. In my experience this is when some of the best things can happen.If you are not feeling much movement, no involuntaries, one thing you can try, hold a contraction of your anal and pc muscles at about 50%, just hold it and try and forget about the fact you are holding it, and just clear your mind and think arousing things, eventually your muscles will get tired and you should start feeling some good movement.

@ineverknew,While I agree with most of what you have just said, I do believe that what eventually got me over the hump was using the smallest Peridise almost every night (except weekends) for a few weeks.

I made sure it was well lubed and that I was pre-lubed with shea butter and then made a routine of inserting at bedtime with absolutely no expectations. This tool is so small that you barely know it's there. This means I can fall asleep as usual within about 15 or 20 minutes of retiring, but invariably wake up in the wee small hours to a strong body buzzing. This would keep me awake until I removed it and I would then sleep undisturbed until about 7AM.

The benefit of all this was that on waking at 7AM, I would have consistently such strong echo effects that I would have Anerosless dry Os for the next hour.

I now find that these Anerlosless Os occur almost every morning regardless of whether I have used the Peridise the night before or not.

Having a session with my Progasm Junior or with any other tool in the morning is now pretty much assured to be a success and icing on the cake!.