Supplements?

Would the L-Arginine alone be enough?

or can you get the other testosterone without prescription?

I use L-citrulline and arginine which are good for enhancing circulation ,my local pharmacy has started selling generic Cialis and Viagra which I use occasionally to spice things up.Having said that I often get so hard it's almost painfull with just aneros,Notice I said almost.A good web site to check out is peaktestosterone.

I take maca, horny goat weed, tribulus, catuaba, and pygeum. When I don't take them for several days my orgasms are weaker, less cum (and precum), and my cock doesn't feel as electrified when its hard. So when I do prostate sessions I still take all these, but they amplify my prostate and seminal vesicles and everything flows, pumps and pulses much more intensely. Echoing earlier posters here, I take citrulline and arginine just for my boner's sake, but not sure how it effects prostate sessions (other than my prostate probably swelling more and more erections).

But the one supplement I discovered by accident is mucuna pruriens. It's in a preworkout supplement I take when I lift weights, but I didn't really care because it's not that much in the mix. However, when I had sessions after workouts, even like 2 hours after, my ass was just way more wanting for a toy, any toy. Aneros became like a magic battery or something like that, can't explain. So I delved further and ordered some on its own, and BLAMMO major prostate Os, lots of kinds (long ones, fast pulsing ones, slow pulsing ones, really short fluttery ones, etc.). I've tried just L-dopa extract from the mucuna bean, but it's not as good as the full spectrum mucuna, especially when part of its standardized.

If anyone's interested, mucuna could be fun for someone here! I've isolated it too on session days, and days I don't take it my sessions are good, but not THAT good.

@techpump, I'd like to try the mucuna pruriens. I've researched a couple on Amazon, but not sure what the best option is. Can you please point me to the brand that you used?

Zaneblue once talked about the importance of both testosterone and dopamine in achieving great orgasms, and how diet can help improve this. Here

I think it's more about having a healthy balace than trying to overdose on the stuff. Which explains why you've had some fantastic results 10dollarbet, there was something chemically holding you back.

@techpump you're a veritable walking pharmacy 🙂 gonna have to check some of that stuff out now.

(oh and thanks to @Unfug for bringing zanes old advice back to my attention recently)

@Kazama and @PistolPete79 mucuna is relatively light on your system. When possible, I usually only take whole or full spectrum supplements instead of heavily standardized stuff. Now, I'm totally off on this statement since I do take some standardized things (like the Piping Rock pygeum that is standardized to be stronger, and for precum, this stuff works better than the full spectrum pygeum varieties I've been taking for over 7 years now), but, there's something better about full spectrum mucuna that I can't identify other than what it feels like it does to me.

I take Full Spectrum Mucuna Pruriens from Swanson. It's a 400mg capsule and I only ever take one a day, or not even once a day. I take one about 2 hours before a prostate session (and I take other things too). When I don't take mucuna before a session, I can totally feel the difference immediately. I first feel mucuna when I prep my anus for a session. (Sorry to the faint of heart on here) I lube my finger and finger my ass to manually lubricate it. I always do this before a small bulb enema flush out. When I finger myself, my ass is instantly "hungry" for something to be in it. Doing my ass with my finger for those few seconds is very arousing, very sexy feeling, and really erotic. When I stop I really feel deep inside me that I do not want to stop!! When my session begins, I can't wait to insert a toy because my ass craves it so bad. When I don't take mucuna, I'm still horny for toys, but its just not the same as when I take it.

I've done a lot of research into mucuna for all of its benefits, side effects, and uses for life's activities. I did find a study on it that claimed that flaccid penis size increases while men take mucuna, and it also increases erection fullness. It doesn't have a viagra effect, but it does increase blood flow.

All of us (or at least almost all) have had spontaneous erections during Aneros use. It comes on at different times, from different effects of stimulation in our canal and on our prostate (and seminal glands further back), and from different triggers and prostate orgasms. When I get hard during a session, my canal changes shape and my prostate moves (and/or changes size, I don't really know right now if prostate changes size due to erections...). The bigger I get, the more differently Aneros reacts inside me and the way it moves is also altered. My orgasms vary because of this. I wonder if there is a correlation between mucuna's effect on flaccid penis size/blood flow and the way the prostate is positioned or shaped/sized?? Maybe the supplement changes sensitivity to the whole anal region due to the things it does to a penis???

All speculation and wondering/daydreaming, but honestly, mucuna does do something to me that has profound effect on my sessions.

I also take Now's Dopa Mucuna, 460mg capsule. It's Mucuna extract (400mg) that provides 15% L-Dopa. The other 60mg comes from straight up L-Dopa derived from mucuna. So it's a mucuna extract and pure L-Dopa, which is a more strongly extracted form of mucuna. I've taken this in lieu of mucuna before sessions, and it doesn't have the same effect on me. I've done experiments between both over 10 times, and the full spectrum Swanson mucuna wins hands down. However, the Dopa Mucuna could work just as well or better for some men.

Everyone please do your own research before embarking on supplement travels! I've taken supplements for sex/orgasm/erection/pumping for about 14 years now and I've tried lots of stuff in all kinds of combinations and everything is more intense and exciting when I'm taking supplements. There are sensitivities to L-Dopa in certain people and you should read all the warnings and cautions listed not just on the bottle you buy but with the supplement in general. I always look online for the ingredient and read as much as I can about it. Like yohimbe, perfect example. It's sold in lots of stuff and is not given proper warnings. But drink a glass of red wine with your woman after popping something with yohimbe in it, and in an hour you will feel absolutely horrible!! Just take what I report on here as anecdotal evidence and look into it further. If we did a lot of research just for Aneros/prostate orgasms, then we can all afford the time researching supplements, too!

Have fun everybody!

Hi Techpump, would you mind letting me know the brands of all the supplements you use please? You sound like quite the expert.

I have read about the ability of PDE5 inhibitors in enhancing aneros sessions (for some) but also in treating prostatitis due to not only increasing blood flow to that area but also by relaxing the smooth muscles around the pelvis. Now having read some horror stories about the usual inhibitors (viagra, cilalis etc) I am looking at trying to replicate this effect in a more natural way.

This has led to me looking into the role of nitric oxide and its effects on the human body. Not just relaxing of the pelvic muscles but also potential ability to fight disease, inflammation and improve sex life / aneros use.

I have read that citrulline (in particular) and arginine play a key role in the NO pathway and so is worth a shot.

However there are so many brands and options (malate / no malate?) and googling has just led me to body building forums arguing over which is best and has not been very helpful.

If you could recommend what brands work for you I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

techpump: I just ordered a bottle of Full Spectrum Mucuna Pruriens from Swanson
do you take this on a daily basis or only take it on the day you have a session?
Do you take one capsule or more?

I am revising this older thread to report on my experiences with mucuna pruriens. I don't know what became of techpump but he never replied to any PM I sent?
I ordered a bottle off amazon of 400mg caps and have been taking two a day. What I read on line suggests a much higher dosage like 5g/day which would be about a teaspoon. I tried taking three caps twice a day but ended up feeling light headed and dizzy so I went back to 2 caps (800mg) per day.
I have taken quite a few different supplements over the years and other than cannabis have found them to have little to no effect on me. I'm almost done with this bottle, which would be about a months supply and while I can't say for sure that it has helped my aneros sessions much I do find myself so incredibly horny lately. Can't say for sure that it is to do with taking the mucuna pruiens suppliment but I have not made any other changes to my lifestyle lately. I'm no kid anymore but find myself masturbating several times a day and cannot keep sex off my mind.
When this bottle runs out I plan to stop taking this for a month and see what happens. Maybe there is something to this??

I'd recommend caution and to do your research when using herbs. Some lower blood pressure and could cause medical issues because of it.

I initially thought PM was Pueraria mirifica, which is what men use to get more estrogen into their body for purpose of male-to-female transitioning. So I'd not think that would be good if your T levels were high.

The following is what I've read online - but I can't profess to know for sure, and you cant take any of this as medical adive, and you need to research and think about it.

Some discussion on the Thunders Place ( https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html ) suggest that Pygeum would be bad as it is classed as a 5AlphaReductase inhibitor, which stops testoserone being converted to DHT ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B...ase#Inhibition ).
Saw Palmetto is in the same boat. I tried some Pygeum for 4 days (150mg, 750mg, 500mg, 1000mg) and i think it made my erections worse than before. Never had any precum - maybe i needed to stay with it for longer?

I'm playing with L-arginine 500mg tablets once a day, seeing if it makes any difference. May up this to 1000mg as per the Holy Grail of Cum Load recipe.
L-citrulline is converted to L-arginine by digestion, where then it has the same effect as taking l-arginine tablets. Both are involved with releasing NO which is a vasodilator and required for erections (and good cardio health apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endothelial_dysfunction ).

Having recently had good result with Sildenafil (Viagra), I will be looking into mechanisms of reaction and seeing what I need to do in my life to improve my health. Indications from my reading say that you should not mix L-arginine or l-citrulline with any of the PDE5 inhibitors (viagra etc) as a combination of both can lower your blood pressure to danger levels. I took a 3 day break from L-Arginine before taking the viagra. Took my first L-arginine tablet an hour ago, some ~20 hours after taking viagra.

My vitamin stack currently is:

• 1-2 tablets of 1200mg Sunflower Lethicin per day (supposed to increase cum thickness and a cell signaller?) avoding the Soy version. Had a huge amount of cum a week ago with this - may have played some part in that, it was bigger volume than usual, overflowing out of my cupped hand onto my underwear and towel under me.
• Odourless Garlic with Allicin, 2 to 4 tablets a day, 1000mg per tablet for circulation and heart health
• Wellman Conception multivitamin tablet, one a day (Contents listed at https://www.vitabiotics.com/wellman/conception and click on the Formula tab under the priduct image)
• Omega 3 tablet, 1360mg, once a day, containing 680mg EPA, 270mg DHA
• 1 tablet 1000mg Vitamin C

Before this I used to take Wellman Prostace tablets, but they had Saw palmetto and betasitosterol which I thought were bad for your testosterone levels.

I additionally read that we need like 8hours uninterrupted sleep for good testosterone - I'm testing this theory out now.

Some people take ZMA (zinc, magnesium, Vit B6) before sleep and report getting morning wood with it - I've not had moring wood for maybe a year, so I may look into trying ZMA.

Some people report good success with the Carnivore diet (think of the opposite extreme of the Vegan diet), specifically beef. I wonder if the protein involved has a similar effect to taking L-argnine tablets.

What I've learned aboutcitrus burst gummy nutrition experts is that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Its very frustrating because it all contradicts each other.

I had the opposite problem as the original poster.  At (what was then) 37 years old, I discovered a lot of my fatigue issues were being caused to too much estrogen.  My doctor informed me that hormone tests typically aren't given to guys until later in life, so a lot of problems go unnoticed.  After a month of medication the issue was corrected.

I also was told my vitamin D levels were low.  I think I was at 25 out of 100 when you are supposed to be at least 30.  When I read up on how much D does for your body, and how for some is considered a hormone in itself, I stayed on the vitamin D therapy my doctor put me on.  I was able to get my levels up to the 60-90 exceptional range and keep it there.

None of this has done anything for my sessions, but I think taking 2,000 MG of Omega 3 a day has made for stronger erections.  I am also taking Folic Acid for cell repair and creation, but think that has some blood flow benefits as well. 

@nat Have you got a breakdown of the amounts of Omega 3? DHA / EPA?

I remember reading about Bluezane on here and she was advocating for very large doses of Omega 3 for increasing libido.

I take Full Spectrum Mucuna Pruriens from Swanson. It's a 400mg capsule.  I like what it does for me.  I don't always take it. No Noticeable side affects. 

Changes to your diet and lifestyle will make much more profound changes to how your body responds sexually. I’d advise against pinning super o success or even sex success to supplements. 

@helghast

One could argue that supplements are a subset of diet.

Definitely diet and supplements are keys to healthy living overall, and as we get older we need to heighten the focus on certain blood characteristics with advice from the medical field.  I am no stranger to this as I was diagnosed with low testosterone in 2020 (273 & 187 ng/dl) along with BPH earlier.  The prostate size was the issue (XL at 70-94 grams), and has been reduced by a HoLEP surgery.  Testosterone is under control with a weekly injection of 0.3 ml of testosterone cypionate.  Last reading was 624 ng/dl two days before injection time.  Excellent, my doctor says.  BTW, the control limits that I see on the lab's TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, SERUM reports are Ref. Range 300-700 ng/dl.  My doctor says keep doing what I am doing at age 73, 6'3", 208 lbs., wok out at gym/stationary bike for 20 min. for heart rate elevation, walk alot, lift some medium weights, swim in the summer naked, stretching for what ails my joints per physical therapist

I take a few supplements:  D3, calcium, fiber, power zinc, hair/skin/nails, vitamin C, chromium picolinate, and lastly Omega-3 (200mg / day) for heart health.  That is it.  I drink coffee, and have a glass or two of red wine mostly on the weekends.  (I think it affects my urination frequency negatively)

My erections are decent but they have changed, my wife kindly states.  But she still enjoys, and tells me when they are better than normal.  Arousal is on my mind as a cure for this, but it used to be more spontaneous throughout the day.  I do have morning wood!

An avid Helix Syn V user for > 1 year and loving it!  Do Kegels after each insertion to get started without any vibration, trying to see the penis retract, then "wow" the feelings and then a little vibration mostly on lowest intensity.  Try to practice "Penis not" strategy but succumb at times...

So, after reading all of this forum's thread, I am asking myself where do I go with any of this?  I am thinking not the Viagra or Cialis route.  I am thinking it is something to enhance circulation throughout my vascular system naturally, but not very extreme.  Open to suggestions...

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@nat Have you got a breakdown of the amounts of Omega 3? DHA / EPA?

@lonewolf8 The ones I am using are EPA 1,290mg and DHA 620.

I've been trying to follow The Orgasmic Diet's (Zaneblue's) program of supplements without actually following the food "diet" part so I don't know how effective it's been yet.  Having just recently completed a 21-day fast where I gave up all animal products (including fish oil), and since going back to the fish oil I can't say that it's had the profound impact that I'd hoped it would, but I'm intending to keep at it for a while yet. 

I'm doing:
2000mg EPA, 1000mg DHA (Zone fish oil)
~1000mg extra DHA (Veggie Doctor algae oil)
Centrum
ZMA
Dark chocolate (~0.7oz)
Orange juice when I can remember
And I practice intermittent fasting nearly all the time, it just tends to work well with my metabolism

And I eat mostly organic meats, vegetables, bread.  The "Daniel Fast" I was on has me wondering if there's something else I should cut out of my diet permanently as I do feel a bit different since going back to meat and sugar.  Or maybe I should actually read Zaneblue's book for more than just getting the correct amounts for the supplements.  I still think that she made some good points, her logic seems sound, and she put a lot of research into writing the book.  I just haven't had the astounding success yet that I was hoping for. 

@faith-manages 

Diet will have a supportive effect on Super-Os, but will not create S-Os. Otherwise super healthy people and athletes would be S-Oing everywhere. But a bad diet will absolutely hinder S-Os. So I think it's OK that you did not get mind-blowing results from diet alone, your dietary changes might just be paving the way for future S-Os. I think that maximizing lean muscle mass is the very best thing you can do to support super-O success, which would be diet + weight training, but just regular physical activity will make a big difference as it will also help with sleep and mood in general. Everything is connected, every positive change you can make will definitively make a difference. 

@zentai 

Spot on!

An app such as cronometre will tell you all vitamins,minerals and macronutrients your dietary food has and anywhere you’re falling short. One would never want to pin hopes on supplements. They’ll never trump dietary food. Personally I prefer fatty fish over omega supps. You’ve no idea if the fish oil is off/rancid,which could actually do more harm than good. Eat well,lift heavy shit, and fuck,and you’ll be well on your way :).