Some serious questions...

I recently got in touch with some doctor friends of mine, and brought this issue of male vs. female orgasms in intensity.

Jesus! She practically slated me for what she said was "gullibly buying into media nonsense". She was actually pretty angry - her angle was that this is a myth that comes about through the medias obsession with the female orgasm, and that it puts stress on the majority of girls who achieve regular orgasms that are about on par with the average male orgasm in strength (albeit most female orgasms are longer in length).

I told her that it's surely stressful for any guys that fall for it too, and she seemed to agree.

1/10 girls will never cum in their life, just under 1/2 don't have them during intercourse, and the majority of those who do are usually not multiorgasmic and don't have the mind blowing megagasms you see in porn.

I feel like a bit of an idiot for falling for it. I had no perspective on this, and it's so easy to assume that there's a gross inequality here if you're only exposure is pornography, glossy mags and erotic literature.

Her final word was that "the female sexual response is more varied than that of mens - most women fall in the middle, where pleasure is roughly equal to that of men and the main difference is between individuals. A small portion of women may experience extremely powerful orgasms, but roughly the same percentage cannot experience them at all. For women orgasm is a gamble, you may come out on top, or you may lose altogether."

So I'm sort of reassured. Although I reckon I couldn't handle it if my partner could have those rare super mind blowing multi orgasms and I couldn't.

That is unless the Aneros can give me the same 😉

Anonicos,

Glad to hear that you are “sort of reassured” about the female orgasm issue. Your doctor friend pointed out the media myth to you better than I, when back in June I stated - Remember pornography is not reality, it's choreographed fantasy.

You still need to face the reality that there are men and women who will have more intense and more frequent orgasms than yourself in their lifetimes, but so what ? Allowing yourself the opportunity to grow to YOUR full potential is the goal here. If you chase after the imaginary experiences of others, you will surely be on a fool’s quest. It would also be foolish to believe that external events, drugs or devices, such as the Aneros, will solve your conundrums.

It is more than enough that you maximize your own abilities with the body you have, not the imaginary body of myths or fantasy.

It was this concept of women having it so much better than men that was getting me. Maybe it's built on some innate battle of the sexes psychology crap, who knows, but it was driving me mental.

The media myth is so widespread it's really hard to divorce yourself from it. But also, there seems to genuinely have been a lot more research into alternate female orgasms than male ones - when surveys and studies do compare orgasms, it may be a female g spot orgasm, with a regular male penile one, rather than a prostate one etc.

I've not experienced a prostate orgasm but I gather that they are significantly more intense, so that seems unfair.

Also men don't tend to buy sex toys as much as women. ANywhere near as much apparently. So without that market, less research is done on creating those kinds of insane products like the sybian, for men.

But then how many women will use a sybian in their lifetime? Very few, and not all find it comfortable.

I'm fine with the idea that others may have stronger orgasms than me, but that inequality was my problem. It was based on ignorance, yes, but and ignorance fueled by the media, which needs to get real, because this sort of thing causes a lot of stress to both men and women.

It was based on ignorance, yes, but and ignorance fueled by the media, which needs to get real, because this sort of thing causes a lot of stress to both men and women.

Only if you put so much stock in it to begin with. 😉

But now I've got this in my head I'm not kidding, I've gotten myself in a right state. I'm serious, a few days ago I think I might have been at my lowest ever in my life over this issue of male orgasms being weaker than women's. It crushes me.

Terrible thing to think I know 🙁

OH MY GOSH.

I never thought I would find someone that felt how I did.

I feel overwhelmed by your post as it is what I have felt for so long. It has TOTALLY depressed me and distorted my view of sex.

Women = lie down and have the man kill himself to give her orgasms and feel GOOD that he can, or feel bad that he can't. The woman's idea of sex is to "let go". They moan more than men, so I can only assume they are having orgasmic sensations throughout sex. They have no pressure to perform. They can close their eyes and relax, limpen their hands, they have the psychological sensuality of opening their legs and letting the pleasure come to them, they can be surprised by the thrusting as they don't know what the man will do next, making it an exciting rollercoaster. They can go in different positions. They can be submissive or "on top"/dominant. Women's role seems to be to ACCEPT PLEASURE.

Imagine being chatted up/approached by a stranger who's aim is to have you lying down while they give you orgasms?

Man = Do the thrusting work, have less pleasure and sensitive sexual organs, less of a spiritual journey with it all. The man has the downside of being judged according to his penis size, shape, sex style, sex performance, sex length. He can't go in different positions. The man's sex is to "contain himself until the woman is satisfied", then he gets a weak (in comparison) organ (penis) orgasm to END the sex. No man moans as much as a woman during sex, which suggests that the man's aim is a fairly "pleasurable orgasm" at the end, compared to waves of orgasms without moving a muscle. Missionary position has to be the most mindboggling position for me. I'm balancing on my knees and foreams or hands, concentrating on how Im performing, analysing and comparing pleasure, readjusting my positioning, and not making a sound.

A man's role seems to be to PROVIDE pleasure.

This has depressed me TOTALLY to the point where I wish I could experience sex as a woman. Even with the woman on top, the man has to keep his erection, maybe hold the girl's hips. He can't let go and empty his mind. He can't be distant and reflect on what he saw on TV while pleasure comes to him.

The woman is encouraged to pleasure her clit during sex. If the man has an Aneros inserted, that would cut down his chances of having a gf. And is the prostate really a comparison? Is sex good with the Aneros? Again, the man is still the performer.

Clit, G spot, Vagina, Nipples, emotions/brain. "Can you please your woman?", "Grow your dick and please her", "Size matters?". And they say the penis head is basically a clitoris knock-off but less sensitive. What a rip off. How can God be male?

And to make matters worse, I have a unsensitive penis. I discovered this as I masturbated, but hoped it would cure when I finally went on to have sex. I dont get pleasure from masturbation until Im near ejac-orgasm. I watch porn but sometimes I feel like: this is nothing compared to her pleasure. Girls don't even need to orgasm before they moan. As soon as the penis makes contact, they moan. My unsensivite penis has me quite suicidal and very depressed. Oh, I have a girlfriend. I wish I could feel what she feels. I love her but when we're done and she says: "I had two orgasms", rather than crumpling a cola can into my forehead and saying "hell yea, Im the man", I get filled with a panic-attack sharp chest pain and depression. I barely can feel my penis. I seriously feel suicidal about this a lot of the time.

When women say stuff like: "men!", or "men are useless", I think: "Excuse me?!". Without men, women wouldn't know the heights of pleasure they do. They say women know how to please women, but compare lesbian porn moaning to man-woman porn moaning. I think it's an audacity. Men are to be pitied if anything. If it weren't for this prostate gland (whose pleasure I have yet to experience), men's sexuality would really be a devastating shame.

Even down to MUSIC and MEDIA. Male singers sing about:
- how they can/want to please a girl.
- how they can please a girl better than her current man.
- how they can be what she wants.

Female singers sing about:
- They are independent and don't need a man/their current man; they can do better.
- How any potential lover (man) must meet their requirements and please them.

This has made me question Higher Design/God/Creation/Evolution. How did men get lumped with the "load"? Even with the Aneros and an accepting gf/wife, it's still not "inbuilt" pleasure capacity. It's toy-assisted. I don't get how men are so sex hungry, and women pretend to/make men beg when it is the woman who benefits most.

Lately, when I look at women, I'm awash with jealousy. They look great, they have perfect bodies, are sensual, mysterious, emotional, intriguing, have unprecented sexual pleasure capacity. How can they be considered the weaker sex or backbone to men, etc? If anything, men are CRAP. Made inferior. Born with this desire to PROVIDE PLEASURE. Women are born with this EXPECTATION of ACCEPTING PLEASURE. Unfair to me.

I have ranted on too long. I had no idea anyone felt like me.

Anonicos, I've only read your first post (not the whole thread) but let me say I used to be like you - envious of all the many varied, intense female orgasmic abilities. However and I base this on personal sexual experience with females, and watching porn I'd say I am more orgasmic now and have more orgasmic pleasure than probably 90% of females out there! That's just an estimate and it would take scientific inquiry to accurately assess this, but I believe it to be true from my experience.

I never dreamed this would be possible. I remember years ago seeing ads on the internet for techniques that mentioned mind blowing orgasms for hours, etc. I thought it was all just hype and for them to make money. Then I found the Aneros, and began taking fish oil along with some other herbs / and found the Aneros. The rewiring process / and inquiring process of MMO's that I personally undertook led to me learning many ways to orgasm and to orgasm deeply, and for long periods of time - even continuously. It is amazing, and delicious, and I am definitely blessed to have this ability. I can have orgasms from the Aneros, or from the Peridise, or from contact with the perinium, or contact with my kundalini spot, or contact with what I refer to as the male clitoris, and with enough time and concentration I can have orgasms from no contact at all. Oh, I left out nipple stimulation. I can have orgasms from that too and as a matter of fact that seems to accentuate all the other techniques. Probably there are other ways as well but I am still learning.

Anyway, take hope, and be patient. Invest some long term time and effort into developing these skills for yourself. It will be worth it.

Anonicos,

Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.

You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.

Even a slight edge is not fair.

Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.

Anonicos,

You've had all the advice regarding whether or not to get an Aneros so I'm not going to go there. You're a big boy, you've got enough to make an informed decision.

I have been married 3 times and have had other female sexual partners besides. As onthepath points out, no-one can know what someone else, man or woman, experiences during orgasm.

Having said that, it is my opinion, FWIW, that my latest Aneros Super-orgasms are at least as intense as, and often exceed in duration, anything I've witnessed in a woman. But then maybe my love-making technique isn't up to par... 😉
I have never witnessed a woman masturbate to orgasm to know what they can achieve solo, however. (Though I'd like to...)

I have just got out of bed from a 3 hr session with my Helix and Progasm. I am fairly fast at reaching an orgasmic state, so it is safe to say that I was sine-waving through orgasms for 2hrs 50 minutes. I didn't finish with an ejaculation as I wanted to maintain the sexual tension. I am sitting here at the laptop with little trembles and flutters still happening. If I stop and concentrate I can bring on a small orgasm, and that's without an Aneros.

Self or partner induced 'Wet' orgasms whilst in the midst of an Aneros induced Super O are out of this world and will leave you shaking and trembling so much that you will not care whether women have it better, I promise you.

I would love to experience, first hand, a woman's orgasm. It is just an idle wish, though, because I know I never will. I don't get hung up on it.
There are many ways a man can get hung up on matters sexual; size, duration, circumcized/intact, stamina, pleasure/orgasm giving ability etc., etc.; all fuelled by 'the media' and locker room mentality, much in the same way as women can be made to feel inadequate over their body image.

So, three things:

1. Try and stop obsessing over this. You won't ever know if your orgasms, now or in the future, equal or exceed those of a woman. Live with it. Therapy? An Aneros is a darn sight cheaper and, eventually, may answer your questions more adequately than a therapist ever could. And at the very least you will have fun.

2. Aneros super Os and super Ts are good enough that you'll stop caring, but widely varying timescales to achieve this.

3. Go for quality not quantity in your current masturbatory sessions. Practice edging, different lubes, pre-cum or cum in condom for a different sensation. etc., and make it last. The orgasm that comes (pun) after 2hrs intense edging is a completely different animal to that which follows 'a quick one off the wrist' no matter how many times one can 'do' it in a night

I know I said three but here's a fourth...

There should be enough in the stickies, particularly 'My Best...' & 'My First...' to convince you that a Super O, or a succession of them, is enough to keep anyone happy irrespective of what women experience.

Have fun!

Old Wolf

If your orgasm is longer how is a woman's deeper?

Anonicos,

Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.

You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.

Even a slight edge is not fair.

Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.

Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.

Anonicos,

Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.

You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.

Even a slight edge is not fair.

Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.

Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.

And they have testicles too right?

Male foreskins have 24000 nerves. The female clit only has 4000.

If you are right though then it wouldn't be fair. NOT FAIR AT ALL.

Can't men have multiple gential orgasms too (penile, prostate, dry, and even million dollar spot) and full body orgasms?

I know you guys are probably reluctant to give me a straight comparison because you probably think I'm coming at the whole thing from the wrong angle, but I agree, I know that the intimate relationship direction is far more important and even powerful than "comparing orgasms". And I'll go that route.

But I think I will buy an Aneros.

And I'm really looking to see if I can find a couple of successful stories of guys that feel they have experienced super-Os that seemed to be as strong as or stronger than the most pwerful female orgasm they have witnessed.

I know these things vary between individuals, but to put my mind at rest I really need to know that there is the possibility that the playing field really is level, regardless of what it takes to get there. I just can't stand anything that pre-determines my life based on genes - pleasure, social status, attractiveness... anything.

I don't care how long it takes to get there, I'll put the time in. If I understand this correctly, at least male sexuality is reliable - if you put the time in, we will achieve these things. I suppose even if some women can achieve that pleasure much easier (if they can), some never cum at all, and some never that hard.

I just have to know that playing field is level, I really do 🙁 Sorry if I sound like a headcase.

NOTE: For the record I've been masturbating all night, getting myself wild over true erotic stories on the net. But the orgasm is an anti-climax all the time, I just end up feeling let down. I suppose it's as much a state of mind as physical pleasure - but I want both of those aspects, not just mental.

You're not a headcase. I'm in the same place. Or maybe I'm a headcase too.

Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.

See rumel's point about media hype.

Also I think there should be a rule about necroing threads. How about the mancer has to declare that they a raising a thread that hasn't been posted in for 3 months or more.

Maybe Deep. But I still think women get a better deal. For example men have to hold back and as someone phrased it sex is an endurance test. We don't ever get to lie there and be ridden to orgasms over and over and over.

Bump Bump

Anonicos,

Hey, 86% of women don't realize they have a g-spot and also have the ability to have multiple orgasms.

94% of men don't know they have a prostate with sexual potential. 99.6% of men have never had a multiple orgasm, dry orgasm, or Super "O" unless they climbed a pole at age 9 (search on "pole")

Begin that relationship with your girlfriend that you mention and discover with each other the sexual potential you each have.....

If you are very lucky, your girlfriend will lovingly insert the Aneros for you at some point in your relationship.

This forum is very supportive so we want to help and would love to hear your feedback as you progress. How about starting an Anonicos blog on the forum?

Tripper

Speaking of climbing the pole/rope. I have done that. It was great. Better than any orgasm from masturbation, which isn't saying much, but it was a lot better. I was actually climbing a rope in gym class and had a full body orgasm when I was at the top. Fortunately nothing came out, and I didn't let go.

What about myturn's statement saying women can relax and have no pressure to perform?

Why can't we give they have equal pressure? Why can't we have equal relaxation. I want to be brought to multiple fbo's during sex not give them to myself.

my opinion in veiled subjects of the orgasm of the woman I find that myturn am right but happily now it i has aneros thank you aneros 8)

As I said in the other thread, I agree. There must be nothing more satisfying than being ridden to a multiple G spot orgasm while laying on your back.

I am just putting all my faith in the prostate and Aneros.

ksmo users seem more happy but i agree.