questions from a newbie-gctid10475

I found that I can work two muscle groups: one that sucks the Aneros in, and one that sucks it in and pulls the tip forward to the prostate. When massaging lotion into my nipples, I almost automatically alternate between the two contractions, and once in a while, it will go into autothrust, making me buck and thrash about in bed. Doesn't do a lot, but generally feels pretty good.

So is the do nothing method really do nothing ir relax for 45min doing nothing then small contractions that turn to involtrys

So is the do nothing method really do nothing ir relax for 45min doing nothing then small contractions that turn to involtrys

I'd like to direct you to the thread "Do Nothing" What does that mean? Good Vibes to You !

So its been about 6 months or 7 since i started with the anerous i have the progasm jr and helix syn

Ive not managed a super o yet ive had lots of pleasure an lots of build up but just cant get the orgasm and feel the relese

Ive tried many techniques

I usually start with the do nothing method

And the involenterys kick in then i get the build up but i dont know what to do to get past the build up and relese any thoughts

I have tried to do nothing when the build up starts but it usually dies off

Then i sometimes try to do the smallest squeeze so the anerous slides up and dwn the prostate like massageing i think this is the best way to view the anerous any thoughts on technique when close to release

Thanks guys

Maybe the very thing holding you back is that you believe you have to do something to get past the build-up. Be careful about the assumptions you take with you from traditional masturbation. The way forward could be for you to decide you're fine with being on the edge, and you'd like to stay right there. It could be that the build-up needs more time than you expect. I think when you have an orgasm from this, you'll look back and realize the build-up was nothing like you expected. So an unknown kind of build-up is something you have to stay open to.

Take this example... a traditional orgasm might rise in pleasure from 4 to 10 in 3 seconds, but maybe this new kind of orgasm raises from 4 to 10 in 15 minutes... and instead of jumping right to the 10, it takes you slowly through each number. And you have to let it do that of its own accord, and not get impatient and try to rush it along. The sensations are probably familiar, and the instinct is to "grab on" and say "Thanks, I recognize this place, I'll take it from here", but I think you have to ignore what your traditional masturbation knowledge is telling you, and let it be its own weird new thing, that has alien rules all the way to orgasm.

I agree with Clenchy, you are still under the impression that a prostate orgasm is going to be like a traditional one, that is, a build up followed by a release, i.e.. ejaculation, but in a prostate orgasm there is no release, simply an intensification of the build-up sensations which can last for quite a time if you let them. What you must learn to do is to relax and abandon yourself to these new sensations, don't try to control them, let them take you for a ride simply focussing on the pleasure they provide. I have just had a wonderful session in which I just let myself be taken wherever the aneros wanted to take me, expecting nothing, not trying to control anything, but simply enjoying every moment of the prolonged orgasms which arose. To get yourself to this point you may need to perform a number of gentle kegels, but you should stop and relax once the build-up gets going, you body and aneros will do the rest for you. And I strongly recommend you use the Helix Syn for the time being in your current journey, return to the Progasm later once you have achieved the ability to enjoy prostate orgasms on a regular basis.

TinyTom,
I too agree with both @Clenchy & @wulff. There is a necessary paradigm shift in thinking away from traditional penile centered ejaculatory orgasms to enter the prostate orgasm zone. This is a qualitatively different experience and as long as you chase the old paradigm thinking you will continue to experience frustration. You might get a little more insight by reading the "Just Let Go !" thread. Good Vibes to You !

So could the build up that im experincing actually be the orgasm if so that is cool because it lasts a while but is there a way of letting go sort of relaxing or should i keep up what im doing because sometimes i feel like im clenching if i let go and try to breath threw this will i lose it or will the build up last ? Thanks sorry for vaugeness its hard to put into words

Sounds as if the "build-up" you have been experiencing is in fact the start of a prostate orgasm which you have been frustrating by trying to "do something about it". When the pleasure starts to build all you need to do is to relax completely, breath deeply and immerse yourself in the sensations which you are experiencing. The more you relax the more intense the sensations. Involuntary clenching may occur, and if it does, so much the better, but you should not try to assist it. Just let it happen and enjoy the ride.

So could the build up that im experincing actually be the orgasm if so that is cool because it lasts a while

Try treating it as "orgasmic", instead of "orgasm" or "not orgasm"... there's a grey area you can swim around in. The dial might not always get turned up to 10, but if you move slowly, you could maybe swim from a 5/10 to a 6/10... then swim around there for a while, and see where that takes you.
Typically with normal masturbation I reach a point where I really want to cum, and the aneros takes me to that same urgent/obsessed place, but I have to put that to one side and say "No, we're going to explore this further - cumming is not going to happen, something else is".

but is there a way of letting go sort of relaxing

Yeah, but I think it varies depending on what's happening and what you're doing to get in its way. And it can get weird (but this could be just me!). Like one time I had to let the orgasm flow into my head, and it was like I had to open a door by releasing tension in my eyes... some part of my body was like "No, I can't take this feeling in my brain" and found some way to keep it from happening. And last night, I had to let it flow warmly into my abdomen, which I had also been blocking before... or I at least never imagined the orgasm could travel there.
I know how this sounds, and before I started doing this stuff, the idea of moving "energy" around my body was ridiculous hippy stuff, but when you change where orgasmic feelings are happening, it's hard to explain it any other way.

will i lose it or will the build up last ?

Like I said, there's a grey area you can swim around in for hours. During normal masturbation the build-up is "go time", and time to accelerate up the ramp for the big jump. But the aneros is more like being in zero gravity as far as that goes. I think there's a "big jump anxiety", where you've been turned-on enough that you want a release, and the aneros seems to be dangling it right in front of you. Your traditional masturbation programming gets desperate - "C'mon guys, shit! I need this, I've done this before... let me take the controls, trust me"... then completely shits all over everything you were doing before that was working. And that's the gear-shift you have to look out for. If you're doing "Thing A" and that gets you to mild orgasm, there's the temptation to push/chase by switching to "Thing B". But "Thing B" only seems like it works, and since you're no longer doing "Thing A", the feelings fade off.

The way I override it, is to embrace the desperate need, to make that need for release into some kind of erotic torture. The aneros won't let me cum, and I'm fine with that, because that's what we're doing tonight. I'm just going to ride those feelings, and see how far they go.

You should read this thread, the "confident boomerang" is a really helpful way of thinking about the build-up and the fear of losing it.

So could the build up that im experincing actually be the orgasm if so that is cool because it lasts a while...

@Clenchy 's advice to think in terms of "orgasmic" instead of orgasm is very appropriate here. It might help to read the thread What's an Orgasm?. Prostate based orgasmic events are qualitatively different from penile induced orgasms so I hope you don't fall into the trap of believing a Super-O illusion or The Myth of Super Orgasm.

...if i let go and try to breath threw this will i lose it or will the build up last ?

Each Anerosession is unique and it is impossible to predict how one's actions/technique will influence the direction, duration and intensity of that particular session. We can, at best, discuss generally accepted phenomena for the expereience. One often noted experience is the cyclic nature of pleasure wave generation. There will likely be periods of quiet, lasting from seconds to minutes at a time, between the surges of sensation flow. This is quite normal so accept this as part of your experience and get to know your own patterns of response. With this continually growing knowledge base you will learn when your body is ready to end the session. Unfortunately, our egos often want the pleasure to continue so we keep pushing to extend the session beyond what our body has already provided which can lead to a lingering frustration. Good Vibes to You !

I think that the advice to think of your experiences as orgasmic is an excellent one. The aneros experience is not as clear-cut as one would like to believe, but what I would say is that when you start to shake involuntarily and begin to feel pleasurable sensations down below, then you have entered the orgasmic phase. At that point there should not be a great deal that you should do physically to heighten your pleasure except to relax, breath deeply and surrender yourself to every spark of feeling. However, there is a lot you can do mentally by focussing on what feels good and willing the sensation to rise and expand through your body. I find it helpful to imagine fireworks or fountains rising up inside me. Another trick I find that intensifies the orgasmic sensations is to imagine the aneros sliding over your prostate from side to side or in circles. I have no idea whether this actually happens, but from the surge in feeling that often occurs the effect is much the same.

Should i finish my session with masterbation or without and should i remove the anerous if i should masterbate

Should i finish my session with masterbation or without and should i remove the anerous if i should masterbate

First off, let's ease out of the "should" or shouldn't mindset, your Aneros use doesn't need to conform to any rules but your own ! You need to ascertain your desired goals, then you can start to formulate a path toward achieving those goals.

Different men can have very different goals in mind for themselves. Some men wish to employ their Aneros devices in a holistic manner to heal/treat prostatitis, some men only wish to use their massagers to maintain good prostate health. Some men may only be curious about prostate stimulation with no real interest in orgasmic potential, some may be looking for Super-T's, some may be looking to involve a partner in a new manner of intimacy. Some may be chasing the Super-O experience while others may have entirely unique reasons of their own. The point being each individual's goal will probably require differing techniques to rewire themselves to achieve that goal.

Now, with that being said, the majority of the Aneros Forum membership is interested in pursuing the goal of obtaining Super-O's and the discussion of techniques towards that end makes up the bulk of postings in this Forum. I'm going to assume that is the case for you right now (though, as you become more experienced you may find your goals shifting in heretofore unanticipated directions). The path towards Super-O's through prostate massage requires a paradigm shift in thinking away from traditional penile stimulated ejaculatory orgasms. This paradigm shift in thinking is the "rewiring" process we discuss here. The quicker you can accomodate this paradigm shift in thinking the quicker you will get to your goal.

IMHO, the rewiring will happen more rapidly by isolating your Aneros practice path/techniques away from the traditional masturbation practices involving your penis and ejaculations. While this opinion is widely shared, it is not universal, only you can make the determination about your path choices. My recommendation is to refrain from combining traditional masturbation with your Aneros practice until you have firmly established the neural pathways in your brain which lead you to your goal on a consistent basis. After this rewiring has occured to a substantial degree (it never really ends, it continues to evolve) you can reintroduce more traditional techniques to provide a greater variety of sensual experiences in your life. You get to establish your rules of practice! Good Vibes to You !

Hi guys some real stuff happnin now i had a rest from the anerous about 2 week then yesterday at work my prostate and something else inside was throbing like it was missing having the helix sym up there so that night lubed up lay dow put some porn on played with my nips and had the biggest longest erection ever that resulted in 2 dry os they were really wired hit me like a brick the first one just csme from nowhere it was awsome

So snice the last post things are getting alot more intense ive stopped expecting things to happen and trying to push things to happen just let go and ride whatever happens..
But still have this thing were it feels great im having involtrys but feel like ive tensed up so have to keep untensing then let the pleasure comeback is there a way to breathe or some kind of thing to compleatly relax and let the good stuff happen or does everyone tense at times?

I think it's something you get better at.
I find some positions are naturally good for me to not build much tension, like half on my side, half face-down, with my top knee drawn up (also one of my favorite sleeping positions).
There's self-talk too, where I remind myself that this pleasure is something different and tension in this area isn't necessary for the experience, so I can stop. Also seeing if I can relax through something as a challenge or tease.

Thanks clenchy with you guys help im definatly making progress things just seem to fall into place ive stopped the porn it simply distracts the pleasure from inside to my penis which i get now is counter productive having an erection distracts me and i tenseup...
I have found pc muscle can be contracted two or more ways 1 ive found is to squeez it so like when i stop peeing and one is where i pulse from my pubic area i hope you get were im coming from

I have been having a type of o im unsure what it is its like a small electrical shock in my penis its verry much like the first ever time i masterbated anyone have an idea ?

http://anniesprinkle.org/energy-orgasms/

Try thus with aneros

Thanks

So it has been 365 days since started this thread and on day 364 i had my first prostate orgasm!!!!!!!

it was awsome way diffrent than alot of tge pleasure ive had with the my sessions

I only had one because it was getting late i needed sleep

but i did get close a few times more.

it started like a warm feeling there was pleasure but small it started getting more and more pleasurable my legs started to wobble a little the whole thing lasted maybe 90 seconds up to 2 mins

i knew straight away this was the real deal

ive asked lots of times wats this. is this that. how do i do this.

im greatful to everyone who has given me advice i wouldnt have carried on with the anerous if it wasnt for the fourum it has allways been pleaurable but also frustrating when not seeing progress.
but i have now become aware of my prostate being a sexual thing.

What happens alot nowadays is when ive been to the gym on the bikes mostly it tires out or awakens my prostate and when im sat watching tv or on my pc i start getting pulsings in my prostate and know that i need a session this orgasm had been building for weeks i knew i was getting closer to something

i will start answering some questions in other threads now as i feel like i have a bit of experiance now i allways feel bad that i ask questions and thats all no other participation for other users

but i thought putting this in my first thread could shed some light for a begginer to where i am now and the journey im on too.