Prostate journey can never be mainstream.

Posted by: @dismantled

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@zentai I think your frustration is understandable. There are far more important areas of neglected research too. In many cases, it’s not just the practicality of doing the research, or the likelihood of finding answers or applications, it’s the likelihood of funding or personal promotion opportunities.

I agree, it's not like research on Super-Os is more important than research on rare medical conditions or lots of other subjects. We might even call it a research on recreative activities, it's in no way vital. 

The small bits of R&D I was involved with did not depend directly on outside financing and I never had to apply for grants etc. I do know a bit about how research grants work in academia, but it's purely second-hand information. It really looks like there's strong incentive to work on popular topics and to reach popular conclusions, at least in certain fields. 

The most puzzling part for me is that sex sells, and this is primarily about sex. Some of the "porn giants" could even fund this, even if it would be better if the money came from elsewhere. I don't think there's any debate that Super-O states are real. People should be all over this, but aren't. 

As far as paying for publications, it's just way too costly for me, so I read what's already available for free. I'll make sure to check the resources you provided, thanks ! 

It's not a surprise.  Aneros play is basically a fetish.  It is to me anyways, and when I read the discussions on this board, they feel very similar (even though the subject is different) to other fetish boards I've been on.

I have a tickling fetish.  There are message boards, video producers, and meetups.  Still, most people don't go telling everyone they have it.  It's "fringe".  Probably one of the biggest fetishes around is a foot fetish, and most people are private about it.

My point?  Anything....  Anything outside of traditional sex is going to be more of a private issue for most people.  The prostate play community will undoubtedly grow, and there will be more forums, and toys, but don't ever expect it to be "mainstream".  Other fetishes aren't.  

@jja3 

That's an interesting point of view. I see it more like one possible path to Super-Os. Can other "fetishes" get you there ? It looks like intense BDSM practices can work in some cases, E-Stim and erotic hypnosis are also possibilities. 

I wonder if the super-orgasm itself is the fetish ? I don't feel like I'm fetishizing the devices or the practice itself, but the idea of achieving Super-Os is surely quite arousing. 

@jja3 I get where you’re coming from but don’t totally agree with the sentiment.

Blowjobs used to be fringe sexual activity. Anal was definitely fringe sexual activity. But both are pretty common and acceptable now. Of course you’ll always get the odd sneer, but you’re unlikely to be in a substantial minority if you admit you’ve partaken or would if the opportunity arose. There are also other fringe fetish activities that are participated in by far more people than those using Aneros.

There is also a distinction in the sense that it’s the understanding that there are different types orgasm available to men many of us would like us to see better understood. Whereas, I assume, fetishists would like more people to understand how their fetish could open up a new way to explore and enjoy orgasms.

A fetish is linking sexual gratification with an act or thing. I think Aneros play is fetishised, but it’s a different level of sexual gratification we’re looking for. Otherwise, some of us would just be just looking to spice up traditional orgasms. Likewise, if I heard sucking on my own big toe was the fastest and best route to a super-O, I’d be signing up to yoga. Perhaps it’s more of a sexual obsession than a fetish. An obsession with achieving bigger better longer orgasms.

Don’t know if I see prostate massage and super o as a fetish. A-Less in particular doesn’t seem very fetish-y to me. I think some things we do that increase arousal help to facilitate a super o. But orgasm is a normal human function. I do enjoy some moderate bdsm,is it a fetish? Not too sure,I always thought a fetish was something someone HAD to have virtually all the time. I love it but I don’t need it present every time. Same with pegging,I love it,but only 3-4 times per week max.

Obsession varies from guy to guy. Are the ones successful obsessed? Or is it addiction? Or is the guy that’s been banging on the door 10 years with no luck obsessed? I myself have settled into regularity and everything feels normal to me,like this is how things are supposed to be.

@helghast 

I think everyone will experience things in their own way. For @jja3 it's a fetish, that's fine. It would be a good fetish to have ! The interesting question is whether Aneros is not more popular because it's a fetish, or because it's anal-centric ? 

I agree that after a while, this feels very normal to me, something that is a part of regular life. Around 21:00 I get to decide if I'm having a session or not, and that's pretty much it. 

I have to agree with JJ. I look at the numbers, this website has been up and running in some form or another, since what2005(not sure) and how many ppl have joined. I'mguessing 5-6 lurkers for every one of us card carriers. Adds up to maybe, even being generous 1.5-2 million, in a world of billions having some kinda sex. Fetish may not be as fitting as Niche. Just sayin.Dont' quote me on these numbers I wasn't able to get to the members count, so I am going off memeory from when you could. 

Also some one wrote how sucking cock and anal, was taboo until recntly. People have been sucking cock and doing anal and writing about it for ages. You just didn't talk about it in polite society. Also there were a lot of straight up hypocrites, who were doing a lot of nasty shit. Even the Song of Solomon , in the bible is quite graphic. 

@helghast

You get pegged 3-4 times per week??? 😎

Posted by: @zentai

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@jja3 

That's an interesting point of view. I see it more like one possible path to Super-Os. Can other "fetishes" get you there ? It looks like intense BDSM practices can work in some cases, E-Stim and erotic hypnosis are also possibilities. 

I wonder if the super-orgasm itself is the fetish ? I don't feel like I'm fetishizing the devices or the practice itself, but the idea of achieving Super-Os is surely quite arousing. 

Fetish has some different meanings, but this is the one I'm talking about: "Sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism is a sexual fixation on a nonliving object or nongenital body part."

honestly I think it falls into a gray zone of sorts.  It's not exactly a fetish, but it feels related to me.  Some men refer to their aneros as their "mistress", some describe the super O as a spiritual experience.  It falls outside of the normal of traditional sex.  So even if it's not exactly a fetish, it feels like it falls under the same kind of taboo category.  

"Can other fetishes get you there?"  I don't believe so, but it is kind of similar.  For example if I have a woman tied down, and tickling her, it creates an elevated level of sexuality.  It's a kind of rush that I don't get from normal sex (which I still really enjoy).  It's like foreplay on steroids which leads to traditional sex.  I imagine other people have something similar to their fetishes? 

@jja3 

Posted by: @jja3

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Some men refer to their aneros as their "mistress"

Posted by: @jja3

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honestly I think it falls into a gray zone of sorts.  It's not exactly a fetish, but it feels related to me.  Some men refer to their aneros as their "mistress", some describe the super O as a spiritual experience.  It falls outside of the normal of traditional sex.  So even if it's not exactly a fetish, it feels like it falls under the same kind of taboo category.  

I agree that it's something special. For me Super-Os would certainly fall into the "spiritual" category, yet I don't think using Aneros is a fetish, while I think that going to the store wearing a butt plug is one. 

I do remember several instances of people giving pet names to their different models, it never really clicked for me that maybe they were serious about it. It would make a lot of sense ! 

I have enough sex toys that an outside observer could say it's a fetish, while I'd say I just like having options, and I don't have that much. In the end it does not really matter, but I'd agree I have an unusual collection of session stuff... and still don't think it's a fetish, hehe. 

Posted by: @jja3

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"Sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism is a sexual fixation on a nonliving object or nongenital body part."

It's just a tool to me. I bought an Aneros because my fingers were getting tired. I don't have a sexual fixation on my fingers. My opinion on it at least.