So like. Wow.
About an hour ago I finished up a session - of which before tonight have only consisted of a pleasant yet unsatisfying pulsing arousal, never really passing into anything that could even remotely be considered orgasmic - but this session was... a bit different, I could say.
I'm fairly certain that I've made a significant bit of progress tonight!
So to highlight what happened - I was sort of "riding" my Helix, coaxing it with contractions of varying speed and strength, just exploring, I suppose. I seemed to just barely skid into the right tunnel of arousal for a moment - I felt it build up, and it continued escalating, and for a moment I really felt like I was going to come (for the record, I've been having this, er, issue where I get so far into a session and just flat out ejaculate with virtually no penile stimulation, which don't get me wrong, it's by a long shot the best ejaculations I have ever had, that's obviously not the goal here) except this time, I just... didn't. It had pretty much the same sort of rising heat feeling from a regular ejaculation, but this time it just didn't go. Instead I seemed to hit this completely new stage of pleasure, one I've honestly never experienced before - I was definitely "rock hard", harder than I've ever been before to any recollection (except maybe for morning wood but that's totally different), and I could actually feel leaking happening, quite the pleasant surprise since I have seriously never leaked before in my life - it was quite euphoric, I don't really know how to describe it other than just a heightened level of sexuality and a continuous wave of pleasure (Could this be the ever-sought P-wave?), and I was able to ride it for a few moments, maybe even about half a minute, but I couldn't keep a grasp on it and I fell back down into the beginning "pulsing arousal" stage. (It definitely seemed to roughly follow the "milestones" presented in the Wiki, but now that I've actually hit one, it seems a bit too dynamic to jot down in a list XD) After that I couldn't seem to get much anywhere else, and I was kind of wearing out, so I just finished with some penile stimulation because I fail like that (but lucky me, that was probably the best orgasm I have ever had. Just. Wow.)
It all just sort of hit me suddenly, I really did not expect it at all. But I am most pleased with the sudden introduction of this new stage to aim for! Now I do believe I have a much steadier compass to aim with in this journey.
I've honestly been a bit skeptical about my tiny little Helix for a while, considering I'm, well, a rather large and hefty person (6'4", ~ 270lb) but now I'm really re-thinking that sentiment~ This might be all I need to get there!
wohdin,
Congratulations, it sounds to me like you crossed over into the Super-O zone for a short bit.
“Instead I seemed to hit this completely new stage of pleasure, one I've honestly never experienced before…” - sounds super to me.
“I could actually feel leaking happening, quite the pleasant surprise since I have seriously never leaked before in my life - it was quite euphoric, … a heightened level of sexuality and a continuous wave of pleasure…” - sounds super to me.
“(but lucky me, that was probably the best orgasm I have ever had. Just. Wow.)” – sounds super to me.
“It all just sort of hit me suddenly, I really did not expect it at all.” This is why we keep speaking of having NO expectations, this is when it will happen.
"This might be all I need to get there!" - You've arrived!
Thanks for the reply, Rumel!
Congratulations, it sounds to me like you crossed over into the Super-O zone for a short bit.
Honestly I'm not too sure about that. I mean, it was a really great sensation, but it just wasn't the kind of mind-blowing that many others have seemed to experience. It was definitely pleasant, probably one of the most pleasant sexual sensations I've ever felt, but it didn't seem at all to be a "top of the mountain" to me. (More like the burning you feel halfway up?)
...Or could it have simply been a very small one?
Perhaps I'm exaggerating what exactly I felt somewhat?
Or perhaps my definition of a "P-wave" or my identification of the actual stages of arousal with the Aneros haven't been gauged properly?
Hmm... either way, I'll keep shooting for higher grounds now that I've actually gotten somewhere!
Another thing to make note of is that I reached this point through almost entirely manual contractions. There was never really a point where I seemed to go into an "automated" contraction mode until I hit that wave, and even then I had to struggle mentally to hold it for the short time that I did... And for the record, the Aneros has been enhancing my ejaculatory orgasms greatly since day one, almost seeming to increase even further with every session (probably relative to my progress, which has finally proved rewarding!)
But I will say this - an hour's worth of struggle for just those few moments of... well, whatever that was... is so worth it.
wohdin,
It is totally understandable that you would not be sure about “crossing over” into the O zone. How does one determine exactly where they are when in completely new territory? What do you have to compare the experience against when it is uniquely new?
It has frequently been mentioned on this Forum that Super-O’s come in a variety of flavors, colors, intensities and durations. Each seems to be unique unto itself. It would be a shame to discount your experience as something less, I think you should give yourself the benefit of doubt and acknowledge that you’ve tasted the delicious fruit of your efforts. Certainly you now know there is much more to be experienced.
I think you may be holding a mythic illusion for some “mind-blowing” orgasmic extravaganza. The problem with mythic illusion is that our reality never aligns with it. If one keeps chasing the illusion, we lose the opportunity to savor and enjoy our experience in the ‘now’ moment. While your described adventure did not seem like a “top of the mountain” experience (and it probably wasn’t) you’ve already stated it was better than anything that had occurred before. You may not have reached the top of the present mountain you are climbing but you are certainly above the tree line and if you take a moment to relish the view, you will probably admit it is a fine view indeed. You can clearly see from whence you started and that mountain top is even closer now than before.
Just think, this is but one mountain to be explored in this range, there are hundreds of mountain ranges on multiple continents, you have a lifetime to explore as many mountains as you desire.
Please don’t diminish your experience by trying to compare it to the descriptions of others. That is like two climbers on opposite sides of the mountain climbing to the top of the same peak. Each may start at a different time with a different level of experience, employ different techniques and equipment and experience different obstacles in the climb. The end goal may be the same but paths will be distinctly different and unique for each climber. One climbers experience is no less valuable or significant than the others.
You’ve expressed doubts about the credulity of your experience, this too is sometimes reported. When we experience phenomenon outside our normal range it can seem unreal, even magical. What you experienced was very real, and as you yourself said “…for just those few moments of... well, whatever that was... is so worth it.” It will get better for you, just keep enjoying the journey.
Great metaphor, Rumel!
I suppose you're right, Rumel. It was probably a mistake to even try to obtain a clear definition of these things in the first place. Now I think I'll just let myself go with it from here on. It's just kind of surreal to imagine that I may have already, and so suddenly, actually hit the right spot, you know?
I'm definitely thinking it may have been the big O, or at least a rather large-scale dry-O now. The feeling was... not quite whole-body, but it seemed to be in a whole bunch of places at once, a sort of lulling warmth in my head and torso and thighs, though very centered at the groin.
I've watched ArcticWolves(?)' and others' videos of a supposed Big-O where they seem to almost vibrate, and while I didn't quite do that, my whole body did seem to contract, thrusting about a bit. I think my initial loss of its grasp had something to do with the feeling itself actually distracting me a bit, having that "ohgodwow" mentality, trying to figure out where it was coming from, but my own mind is sometimes my worst enemy, and it just got washed out with the flood of "ohgodwow." Or perhaps it was wondering "what should I do next," obviously not wanting to lose it, but that sort of hesitation is typically a big session breaker for me.
On a completely new note, now that it's a day later and I have the clarity from a good night's sleep, recalling back on the, er, incident at hand, I think it may have been a mistake to finish with a "T" or so to speak. Now that I've felt the vast difference I actually can recall having a deep sense of emptiness after ejaculation... almost a sorrowful lax. While it was at the same time blissful, it still felt superficial and fleeting, a much less satisfying feeling than the previous moments of warmth.
For some strange reason, I have not at all had any kind of "urge" to ejaculate nor have even thought about that kind of orgasm. (Typically I have a pretty sexual mindset in the morning, but this morning I just... didn't care.)
Another pleasant surprise, because honestly that kind of mentality is rather intrusive. XD
wohdin,
Now you are thinking clearly, “I think I'll just let myself go with it from here on.” “…my own mind is sometimes my worst enemy,” Yes, the act of surrendering conscious control to your wiser body consciousness will let your energy flow more easily.
With regards to your new note: IMHO, finishing with a “traditional” was not really a mistake, just one of the options available to you. What I find noteworthy is your shift in attitude regarding a “traditional”, this was an unexpected finding for myself as well. You have expressed an effect of the rewiring that I think only occurs after you have experienced a Super-O.
It is as if your body now ‘knows’ there are far more options for experiencing pleasure and orgasm than through one’s penis.
wohdin,
Now you are thinking clearly, “I think I'll just let myself go with it from here on.” “…my own mind is sometimes my worst enemy,” Yes, the act of surrendering conscious control to your wiser body consciousness will let your energy flow more easily.
With regards to your new note: IMHO, finishing with a “traditional” was not really a mistake, just one of the options available to you. What I find noteworthy is your shift in attitude regarding a “traditional”, this was an unexpected finding for myself as well. You have expressed an effect of the rewiring that I think only occurs after you have experienced a Super-O.
It is as if your body now ‘knows’ there are far more options for experiencing pleasure and orgasm than through one’s penis.
Hi Rumel and Wohdin
I have not yet reached the super O but have had some enjoyable feelings. But I to have had very little desire for the "Traditional" way of pleasuring myself. I secretively sometimes hope my wife wont want sex so that I can build on my Aneros experimentation 😀 . Don't get me wrong I love making love to my wife, but I think you guys will know where I am coming from.
Peace
D
Congrats wohdin! Isn't progress grand!! I'm amazed at how every experience is always different, and keeps getting better. "It's just kind of surreal to imagine that I may have already, and so suddenly, actually hit the right spot, you know?" Heck yea, it is dang exciting!!! Enjoy it, it only gets better!
I secretively sometimes hope my wife wont want sex so that I can build on my Aneros experimentation 😀 . Don't get me wrong I love making love to my wife, but I think you guys will know where I am coming from.
Oh yea, been there! You don't have to have a T-orgasm when making love to your wife. It can be torture at times, at some point you think yea, I'm going to go for it, but you don't have to 😉
Enjoy the journey,
Marty
Great News wohdin!
I think rumel is being a great guide for you as you progress through this phase, as he was for me in my early days!
The enthusiasm of all you guys here is certainly contagious! 😆
all the best in your new zone and on your continuing journey
artform
I secretively sometimes hope my wife wont want sex so that I can build on my Aneros experimentation 😀 . Don't get me wrong I love making love to my wife, but I think you guys will know where I am coming from.
Oh yea, been there! You don't have to have a T-orgasm when making love to your wife. It can be torture at times, at some point you think yea, I'm going to go for it, but you don't have to 😉
Enjoy the journey,
Marty
I know this feeling too. One time in particular I found myself experiencing all the sorts of pleasures and sensations that I usually associate with an Aneros session, but while making love with my partner and not having the Aneros involved at all. I found I could indulge in the pleasure without the need or want to race towards a traditional orgasm.
Only problem was that my partner ended up running out of arousal so we had to stop and I finished with a traditional orgasm by hand. Which was probably for the best anyway since we'd been going for more than an hour and we needed to get some sleep before going to work in the morning.