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Ggringo
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Porn is a topic that is widely covered in the forum with ample sound opinions on the subject. For me, porn remains a question of being a friend or a foe when it comes to my Aneros journey.

I fully admit I have a porn addiction and this dating back to my tender age of six or seven. Porn quickly became my good friend shortly after I stumbled across my dad's stash of nude magazines while snooping in his closet. Back then, the Web was unknown to the public and magazines mostly contained female nude pictures (not really porn and very few male genitals exposed) and that suited me fine; it had the desired effects. As porn progressed to what it is today, I continued to indulge in it as my faithful bate partner.

Two years ago, (plus a few days) I began my Aneros journey. I was excited to have found prostate stimulation, an alternative source of potential pleasure along with a path to better health. My regular penile pleasure version had been failing me for several years as ED and low libido had set in. Porn continued to be interesting but evolved to being mostly ineffective.

Of course, porn, my good friend for over fifty years followed me into my new Aneros adventure. Yes I read all the warnings in Wiki and in more seasoned member's entries but I certainly could not abandon such a good friend; much too hard to resist.

About six months ago (a year and a half in my journey), I was frustrated with the lack of real progress. I was almost ready to toss my massagers, pull the plug on the Aneros World and call it a day. At that point, as a last effort, I decided to clean house in my head and make dramatic changes not only to my routine but to my entire way thinking. I felt discipline was my only chance of success.

First thing first, all prostate activities and everything tied to it had to be completely separated from my penile play.

As part of this reorientation of my thoughts, I came to the conclusion that porn was NOT my friend in prostate play. It makes sense as my brain had been connecting porn to masturbating for over fifty years. So when porn was used in my Aneros sessions, my brain was waiting for penile completion thus limiting my Aneros progress; simple as that! When I only depend on my imagination and fantasies for my sessions, my brain is more apt to concentrate on my prostate awareness. It works! This resolution has really helped the progress in my journey.

I know this is not a new revelation; the Wiki and numerous forum wise member's entries wrote about this phenomenon for years but for a porn addict like me, I had to hit bottom for it to sink in.

When I practice edging (which I do several times a week), I now make sure the event is well separated from any planned Aneros sessions. The same goes for any masturbating events and I NEVER finish a session with a TO.

Until I'm fully rewired and Super-Os are abundant, I do not plan to masturbate, go for a Super-T or engage any other penile activities that include a massager, nipple diddling, perineum touching or any other form of stimulation I discovered since the initiation of my journey. In other words, my whacking habits will not change from my lifetime of penile pleasuring ways.

My brain HAS to develop the path to this new world of pleasure by itself with no influence to existing pleasure habits. Only this way will I have two completely separate source of great pleasure available to the male species.

Before writing a single word about this personal guide to the progress of my journey, I have been testing all the theories for the last six months. I can fully attest the progress these changes have brought to my Aneros and A-less sessions. I never have a bad session, I have come to know my body inside and out, I now clearly hear it's whispers, I'm able to feel my prostate's mood, I'm able to easily move my sexual energy with ease, breathing has become a valuable tool for pleasure and I thoroughly enjoy life for what is.

Porn remains a good friend when I switch mode to penile pleasure (but with moderation and better selection).

I finish with my disclaimer that this is by no means a suggestion to other members or newbies. It is simply my solution to the dead- end I had navigated to.

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Hi @GGringo, although I had discovered my dad's porn collection only in my teenage years and, too, was and am quite addicted to viewing porn, it never has been an obstacle in my journey so far. By no means I want to contradict your thoughtful thesis, it is simply my personal experience, I want to add.

To some people the absolute separation of well known stimulants like porn from their Aneros sessions may be the bigger hurdle than its distracting nature. Being really horny and raging a boner by what means ever can help at least to find one's thus enlarged prostate at all. Into a session on the other hand I fully agree with you to focus on the inner sensations as this is the best way to make progress to me too.

Feeling quite fully rewired I've become so empathic with some antagonists of porn videos (especially the awesome probands of dr cumcontrol [NSFW!!!]) making me envision their pleasure in such an in-depth way, that instead of masturbating towards an ejaculation, watching only makes me going Aless and vividly feeling what they might have felt.

Life is wonderful and most unique, so, guys out there, everybody find your own way and don't give up to try new directions. Give your bliss a chance!


   
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@SOwithoutAneros it's always a pleasure reading your point of view and I agree with what you wrote.

I guess the difference between some members, with regards to this topic is weather rewiring is completed or not. You are one of the very few who has found the pot of gold in a very unusual short period of time while others such as I are still working at it after extended periods of working at it.

I ended up at a crossroad with frustration and opted for changes rather than give up. I'm not at the finish line of my journey but now, I certainly enjoy every moment of my way there and attribute this bit of success to the changes I outlined in my original post.

Take care my friend.


   
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@GGringo My hat's off to you for "confronting" this issue head-on! You are learning all the intricate workings of your sexual self. Like many have said on the forum, just try to keep an open mind to new pleasures and new techniques and you will continue to make progress in your journey! IMHO, there is always a new pleasure just around the corner, yet to be discovered! I find sometimes that by using something that I already have in my collection in a new way, brings a new round of intense sexual enjoyment to both my body and spirit! "What turns you on?" I think you already know....


   
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I've been watching internet porn since I was 14 years old. I am now 24 and I'm still a addict to this day. For me I have to cut out all forms of porn including visual and audio just to sustain myself. I am at the point where I'm scared to use my aneros in case I have a porn relapse.

I am very surprised we don't have a community on here discussing or helping others pass through these issues concerning porn. I have noticed though my best orgasms happened without porn and I am more focused on the sensations within. I usually listen to binaural beats or rumelsounds or something sexy to help heightened my arousal. I have noticed personally a lot of ill effects from watching porn including depression and feeling antisocial the next day. And, not to mention feeling like a zombie or a rotten vegetable.

For me porn and sex don't mix.


   
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Porn is a problem for me.
I've tried the NoFap thing for 33 days but then relapsed and binged. Time to start a-new.
NoFap is as much a self-learning and self-discovery as much as prostate rewiring. And it is so much more difficult than prostate play - our sex drive increases after no ejaculation and no porn, and makes it easy to relapse.
When I was on NoFap, I wasnt using the Aneros as much. But I did have some nice feelings on a couple times I did.

@Orgasmic19 That sounds like Post-orgasmic illness syndrome? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome

@GGringo Have you considered the possibility that you are a porn addict (just like I am), and giving the NoFap 90-day reboot a go?


   
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All my sessions with porn are kind of boring. Anything that is on the computer/TV/screen is pretty distracting. It's not that I'm focusing that intensely on my prostate session. It's that my ability to let go, let it be and zone out is distracted by porn being on. I think prostate stimulation stirs a kind of desire/horny/sexiness/interest that is different from penile stimulation. It's like when I watch porn I am "seeing" what my cock is supposed to do: be in a woman (the one/s on the screen), engage in coitus (what I'm seeing), make/help a woman have an orgasm (again, screen), and of course, cumming (cue cumshot clip/s). But all of that is unrelated to what my prostate is feeling and what it and my ass as a whole is engaged in, and what I want that part of me to do: have prostate/anal focused orgasms. Sure, seeing something hot on the screen stirs my interest and starts to get me aroused and hot. But when I've tried to have something on to look at and hear while I'm on the floor during a session, it's just taking my mind and forcing it to focus on something unrelated to my session. I think I actually started to have solid prostate orgasms and super Os once I just turned everything off and started to zone out on the floor. I mean, when you're starting to get deep into involuntary contractions, most likely eyes closed, and it feels like you are on the way to an orgasm deep inside you, and then all of a sudden some hottie from the computer yells out "OMG I'm cumming!!!" how distracting is that? In the past if I even thought about opening my eyes to see it, the involuntaries would literally stop cold. I agree with y'all here big time: porn and prostate sessions/stimulation don't really mix that well. Although I've read plenty here on guys that find the two do mix well for them, and that's great. But when I'm going for the O-zone, the screens are off.


   
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I have the same problem with porn. I'm so addicted to it that I'm afraid I won't be able to get aroused without it (fetishes and what not). At the same time, I feel that porn is connected to me ejaculating and when I watch it the brain is expecting me to jerk it, so it becomes hard to focus on my prostate and be patient enough to let things happen.

It's a dilemma for sure. I think I'm gonna try going "pornless" at least for my sessions, but it's easier said than done. My brain is so addicted to the dopamine porn rush.


   
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@lonewolf8 ​​​​​i did look into the NoFap program a while ago but my ultimate goal is to completely separate back door activities from penile activities. As I mentioned in another one of my posts, it is only in the last six months or so that l regained some level of libido and can now enjoy some bate/edge pleasures. NoFap is not only avoiding porn but also some penile sexual pleasures such as masturbating.

My solution is simple (although not easy), it's called discipline and so far, I'm pleased with my results. For me, it's like quitting smoking, it's mind over matter. I still consider myself a porn addiction but I strive to control it.

Thank you for your suggestion to help, I appreciate it!

Life is wonderful!


   
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@GGringo https://www.nofap.com/rebooting/ says:
" [h=4]Porn-Free Mode: Abstaining from Porn[/h]
“Porn-Free Mode” or “P-Mode” only requires that a rebooter abstain from looking at pornography. P-Mode rebooters allow themselves to masturbate and have orgasms (with or without a partner). While this mode is not as commonly practiced as other modes, some members arrive at the conclusion that watching pornography, and only watching pornography, is their problematic sexual habit."

I'm pleased your solution is working for you 🙂


   
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great post Ggringo and all those who have replied. Like you, this topic is very dear to my heart. I have been at this for many years and do not have many sessions that do not involve porn. Most often I have some porn on the screen but with no sound on. that way I can choose to look or not look (not interested in the story line anyways) I find I need the additional visual stimulation at times, and sometimes viewing a big cum shot gives me a welcome jolt of excitement.
It is very possible that the porn is doing more harm than good but hard to say? I have been trying session lately with no porn but like any addict I am finding it difficult.
I went through a spell a year or two ago where I lost interest in porn and must say I was happy about that. I just figured that after years and years of it I had enough. That didn't last long though. I blame the internet for that. It always seemed more exciting when it wasn't so easy to find good porn. Growing up looking forward to the next issue of playboy is something that today's generation will never experience.


   
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@thhn here is something that works for me; a few hours before a session, I view one or two of my favorite porn VDOs (avoiding anything with male orgasm) and I try to memorise the details that turn me on the most. During my session, I use the images committed to my memory as base for my own fantasies. I often transform myself to the female or receiving side in my fantasy. During my session, my tablet is parked and unreachable. The more I use this technique, the longer the time is between viewing VDOs and my session.

Don't underestimate your mind and imagination, given a chance, it does a better job than the VDO as you control what you want to 'live'. Works for me; I get the best of all world's.

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@thhn here is something that works for me; a few hours before a session, I view one or two of my favorite porn VDOs (avoiding anything with male orgasm) and I try to memorise the details that turn me on the most. During my session, I use the images committed to my memory as base for my own fantasies. I often transform myself to the female or receiving side in my fantasy.

Hi GGringo I think I'm on the same crossroad as yours half years ago. But oppositely I kept going by the use of porn. Or more accurately to say the audio porn.
Visual porn gave me the same problem as you but audio (just sound no speaking plot) help me build the imagination and fantasies with my own plot. Sometimes I also stand on the female side in the fantasies.

I just want to ask, your imagination and fantasies include the penis such as coitus or blowjob whatever?
Even you are the female or receiving side is there a penis ACTION scene?

My recent problem is, if the fantasy not involve the ACTION scene my sessions not run well likes lack of fuel.
However the action scene will give me a boner. Even I can pay attention on my prostate instead of penis, even I can focus my sensation on the prostate not penis (prostate is a Fulcrum at this moment I will describe). But the session mostly ended with a hand-free ejaculation unless I shift the session by sharp cut the imagination.

I have to say I'm still praise for this super-T because it's a holy extreme pleasure. However I always worry about I run too far into a wrong way.


   
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@thhn left by itself, my imagination flourished to a new level; porn aside (visual and audio) but that's me. It took (and continues to take) determination and discipline but I was determined to fix my problem which I'm happy to say is much less of a problem today than it was six months ago and prior It works for me but it might not work for others.

As for my fantasies, everything with regards to my own penis is left out specially my penile orgasm sensations. During my sessions, I have a massagers inserted in my butt so in my mind, (if I really concentrate on it and the sensations it gives me), I often think of it as a penis inside me as a male or, as I said above, as a female. In the female role, I try to imagine the feelings they get when their g-spot and clitoris is stimulated along with their orgasms. By focussing on the penis (massager) inside me, if helps me concentrate on it's effects which is the goal I'm looking for.

I am not gay, I'm now gay curious which is a world of difference from my past. I could not phantom how two males got kicks together from stimulating their equipment without female equipment. I guess I changed along with the rest of the world.

Forget boners, forget about your penis or your own penile orgasms while on a mission to stimulate your prostate. That is the only advice I can dish out to any newbies.

Good luck overcoming the addiction; if I can do it, so can many.

Good vibes to you!


   
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I often think of it as a penis inside me as a male or, as I said above, as a female. In the female role, I try to imagine the feelings they get when their g-spot and clitoris is stimulated along with their orgasms. By focussing on the penis (massager) inside me, if helps me concentrate on it's effects which is the goal I'm looking for.

Yes me too.
I also got the state of darwin's famous poem "fucking and being fucked" by the same ME.

And about the prostate and penile sensation. I really can't separate them easy.
I am very sure I can focus just the prostate and ignore the boner. But when the prostate get Happy, it's sensation always relate to some kind of PRESSURE. May be a throbbing, a long deep sour contraction, or a continues shooting puls. These kinds of pressure are so NEAR the penile sensation and I can't really separate them.

When I process a traditional masturbating for example just massage my glans, I can figure out this is a stand alone penile senstation.
But if you keep on massage, build up the pressure to start a perineum contraction. I will say the prostate was involved at this moment. I sense both the penis, and also the prostate at this PRESSURE state.

So, is there any prostate alone senstation on my experience? Yes. Sometimes my prostate suddenly wake up on the street, bus, chair. That kind of Aless minor subtle radiation like senstation is prostate alone. But it's too minor for me to generate any pleasure. And I tried a whole year to amplify this subtle radiation by many methods. Until I stand on that crossroad and found out the audio porn and imagination work for me.

Now I step on the other crossroad. Yes I can amplify the prostate senstation. But it will amplified to a pressure state to cause ejaculation.
I should keep walk on this road, enjoy it and hope this road will lead me to a superO? Or go back to the previous crossroad to find another road far away from pressure state?

Do you guys your superO without any PRESSURE?
How you control the pressure and keep it away from the ejaculation pressure?


   
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@hk_guy sorry, I addressed my response to @thhn by mistake. I was responding to you.

As I mentioned, my turning point was when I succeded in separating all penile activities and sensations from prostate activities. It took me a year and a half to realize it and change my ways. It was and continues to be difficult to do but the rewards are there.

Now keep in mind that my course of action is strictly while I'm on my rewiring journey. I'm not at the Super-O level yet but I have been seeing considerable progress and experiencing great prostate based sensations to the point where I'm not upset in the lack of a Super-O. If and whenever I get there, I will readjust my process as all Aneros veterans do.

If you feel what your doing is not working or you get frustrated, its time to consider changes in thinking and process. Given a chance, the mind is capable of great things!

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If you feel what your doing is not working or you get frustrated, its time to consider changes in thinking and process. Given a chance, the mind is capable of great things!

Oppositively I didn't frustrate, I felt too success on this "session ended by ejaculation" path.
Besides the ejaculation, everythings on this path gave me a great enjoyment. I feel satisfy physically but feel worry mentally.

As my previous post said. I'm just worry this is a wrong path that I go too deep and difficult to rewire back to the correct path. I mean, MAYBE this path will link up my prostate and penile stronger and stronger. To a state that hardly to return.

Honestly I'm still not sure this is a wrong path or not. The only problem I've got now is the ejaculation. MAYBE I can train myself to shift the prostate PRESSURE to the non-ejaculation way later. Who knows?

I'm just share my problem(or it's a success) and hope anyone on the similar path may share back, to make a clear look of this path.

Sorry for my English.


   
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Hi guys, to me porn today got a fully new purpose with finding an awesome new approach to watch my favorite edging porn video. (NSFW! Of course.)

I think this matches the topic as far as it gave my attitude towards porn a very new direction. Lately I already noticed a subtle change in the impact of porn on myself. Instead of only viewing the scene I was more and more empathizing with the actors, no matter what gender, and instead of jerking I'm only mirroring the feelings the certain actor or actress might undergo by envisioning their supposed actual experience.

When watching this video this time I further fully ignored all those edging commands and did only "one more thing"©Apple. I put one to three fingers on my perineum and massaged that spot in circles. I did nothing else.

After about ten minutes I already had cum drily for twenty or more times, one time even hitting the start of a superO. The edging video - so far - is only showing single women masturbating, but after a short time I already believed I could feel what they feel - my perineum was all hot - and pure bliss came from a slight massage of a very similiar located spot of our bodies. Even the afterglow while typing this post is still wonderful! It felt a little transgender, but so what?

If anyone dares to give this technique a try, I would be quite eager to read about your experiences, keep us posted or don't hesitate to pm me!

Good vibes!


   
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