Only full body orgasms

Hey @thebadtouch ,

first of all: welcome to the forum and finding the courage to speak out for the first time.

From your describtion it's very much sounds like you are having what is (here in the forum) commonly called a "calm seas orgasm". In my experience they happen, when you haven't build up big amounts of nerval tension. Kind of an early release so to say. That's not a bad thing. It also means that gliding into orgasm is not a big hurdle for you. Others often struggle with "the wall", which is quite the opposite problem of building up massive tension but being unable to release it.

Also what I recognized is that my heartbeat doesnt get fast.

That's a very good sign. It means you successfully left the track of the standard ejaculatory orgasmic responses. Brauer and Brauer described that in their ESO book.

I wanted to know if anyone had a suggestion of what to maybe change up, since I never got the enjoyment of a Super O.

Being in an orgasmic state doesn't mean that there is no space climb further. You can stack orgasm on each other like lego-bricks.
Listen in to the sensations when you have them the next time. You can build them up further and redirect them. Tantrist say "Where the mind goes the chi follows". So by just focusing on a certain place in your body, you will redirect the humming arousal in your nervous system to this very point. You may read about the chakra concept, which is a handy visualization of nerve-clusters which respond very nicely if you focus your attention on them (in that model, the prostate is a chakra too).

You said you listened to a hypnosis track:@SOwithoutAneros just shared a very nice hypnosis file by Shibby, which might just be the right thing for your situation.

Also: surrender. Imho this plays an important part if you want to get a full blown super-O. You have to allow it, you have to surrender to it. You have to let go of any urge to control anything but just let anything what happens happen. No conscious clenching, no conscious breathing, no conscious movement... only focusing on the sensations. Imagine you are tied up and deprived of any sensory input but the touch of one caring Domme, who is teasing you with the lightest of touches. You can't do anything and feel anything but this very touch and that's why it will become mind-consuming omnipresent. Wallow in the feeling that you are helpless and can't do anything about this and your mind will melt and give way to a very primal form of lust.

Cheers, Unfug

Everytime I feel like there is a sensation like this coming up I try to just enjoy it but the feelings unfortunately wear off after a few moments. ... I wanted to know if anyone had a suggestion of what to maybe change up, ...

@thebadtouch, welcome to the forum as an active user! Great, that you join us and that you share your experiences.

What you described reads quite like some of my own experiences. What helped me in that situation was a kind of tease and denial game. When I felt nothing or some slight feelings wearing off, I tensed my pelvic muscles with minimum force only for a few seconds, then I waited for any reaction. When I felt sensations coming up I tried to suppress any stimulation and even fought down any starting involuntaries. When I had calmed down I tensed my pelvic muscles again. After a while something happened one best could compare with the escalating of a little boat, a sudden wave of bliss came out of nowhere and crushed over me ...

Another technique I use, when I'm not in the mood for anything but don't want to let some leisure time pass away without creating at least some blissful moments, is autosuggestion. I try to call to mind and visualize moments of ecstasy, feelings on the edge during masturbations or even ejaculations. I also try to recall my moanings. It's already amazing to get an erection that way but even more surprising that every now and then even some wonderful Aless session started - ending at least with full body orgasms or mmos.

To take up @Unfug's thread about surrender, I can add, that being able to surrender to me seems to be fundamental for my journey. For a while I called it serving two dominas when switching between submission to my prostate and to my online domina Shibby. Giving in to the commands of that online domina helped me most to really let go and let my prostate finally take over command from my conscious mind.

Good luck for your further journey and keep us posted!

Thanks a ton @Unfug that you took the time for that profound answer!!

Now that you wrote about surrendering, it came to my mind that I mostly didnt really surrender. I will surely try to redirect my sensations next time!

Also thanks for the tip with the hypnosis track. I always find it to be waaay easier to get in to a totally relaxed state by hypnosis.

I am kind of happy to read that there is more than the "calm seas orgasm" as you described.

Thanks @SOwithoutAneros for you answer aswell! Will try the autosuggestion for sure!

Will surely keep you updated!

Sorry for my very late feedback!

I tried it few times with letting go more and I think I am now on the right path
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My most intense result was constant leg shaking (15minutes) which was a great massage and felt great in the prostate aswell.

I tend to tense up my stomach muscles very hard and stop breathing as it becomes quite intense which I think prevents me from reaching a higher state but it cant control it anymore at that point..
So what I am trying to do now is relax at that state too.

A positive thing now is that I have some p-Waves even when the aneros is not inserted - pretty good result for me!

Cheers!

Hey @thebadtouch (nice alias btw :cool:),

I tend to tense up my stomach muscles very hard and stop breathing as it becomes quite intense which I think prevents me from reaching a higher state but it cant control it anymore at that point..

It's funny, I have the very same problem with breathing sometimes. And you are right: common advice is to keep breathing and avoid holding your breath. When I try to keep breathing in this situations I sometimes end up breathing the tension away and thus the approaching orgasm... :confused: What works best for me in such situations is to do very shallow and rather fast breaths, since they don't mess up with the stored tension and unfold quite naturally. What also helps (in general) is an escalating breathing pattern from slow and deep to fast and shallow, like Barbara demonstrates in this video.

The reason you are supposed to not hold your breath is that arousal (and orgasm) in general is an oscillation. Like on a literal swing, you reach height not by pushing constantly in one direction but by swinging back and forth. You have to allow your body to relax and tense rhythmically, so it can swing higher with each succession. And that's the reason why you never can just push through to orgasm with brute force. Many women who struggle with orgasm "just" have to learn exactly that. Yes tension helps, but it's not the tension that does the magic, but the interplay of tension and relaxation. Since breathing is just that, it's someway hardwired in our arousal building process.

A positive thing now is that I have some p-Waves even when the aneros is not inserted - pretty good result for me!

Absolutely! That's a telltale sign, that you are re-wiring.

Cheers, Unfug

I tend to tense up my stomach muscles very hard and stop breathing as it becomes quite intense which I think prevents me from reaching a higher state but it cant control it anymore at that point. So what I am trying to do now is relax at that state too.

Hi @thebadtouch, perhaps it helps to invert your session procedure. Recently I got the advice to stop breathing to induce a handsfree ejaculation. Trying this led to a fascinating aspect of breath control. Who wouldn't remember this scene. Some guys have all the luck.

Lying stretched out on my bed, legs shoulderwide apart I focused on my prostate and just stopped breathing as long as I could. This induced some awesome buzz down there growing with the length of holding my breath. After three to four repetitions Aless took on a life of its own and finally sent me into continuous superOing. Yes, that felt good. The idea behind this, if you're already out of breath, to unwittingly stop breathing will become extremely unlikely. :p;)

Good vibes, Mart

You have received some very sound and thoughtful advice. You might also consider not rushing things. Your body is learning that this new stimulation is pleasurable and is in the process of adapting to it. You are getting pleasureable and intense sensations indicating you are doing well. Often, as the body learns, your sessions change and you might not get to revisit your early experiences. So, maybe just relax and enjoy where you are to the fullest, seeing where your body takes you. It will be fun. Enjoy!

Xileh

You have received some very sound and thoughtful advice. You might also consider not rushing things. Your body is learning that this new stimulation is pleasurable and is in the process of adapting to it. You are getting pleasureable and intense sensations indicating you are doing well. Often, as the body learns, your sessions change and you might not get to revisit your early experiences. So, maybe just relax and enjoy where you are to the fullest, seeing where your body takes you. It will be fun. Enjoy!

Xileh