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@smudgefish My super o was a fully relaxed one. I don't know how I did other than just luck. I wouldn't say I had an orgasm in my leg, it was more like some strong pleasure waves. I'm not quite ready to say I can achieve that yet. Jerking off to a dry orgasm happened to me awhile back out of the blue. It actually occurred immediately following a wet o when I kept stroking for a few seconds. This would be awesome if we could learn how to have dry o's while having sex. It would be nice to be able to fuck for hour straight and never stop. Talk about getting your cardio in 😉

I just finished up with a 4 hour incredible session 😀 and now it is very late, but thankfully it is the weekend. They just seem to be getting better every time now. I really don't care anymore about the super o's at the moment because I'm having so much pleasure right now. I had a new incredibly pleasureful sensation that I don't know how to describe. Just don't really know how to articulate what it felt like. It didn't really feel like an orgasm, but something else. It was more just like a very deep and satisfying pleasure, just not orgasmic.

Dry o's hit another level tonight as well. They were better than a traditional o and I had a handful of times during the session where they were firing one after another. Most of them were centered around the penis tonight instead of the perineum. I had to stop because I was just physically exhausted and couldn't take anymore. My eyes were bloodshot red like I had smoked a lot of weed. I didn't even realize how much time had passed.

Right now it feels like it will be impossible for me to not have dry o's during a session. I hope that doesn't change and I hit a dry spell because that will make me frustrated and pissed off. I can handle only have super o's rarely as long as these dry o's keep coming.


   
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@orgazmo I'm jealous that you have so much time for this, I'm forever clock watching through necessity, or having to orgasm at work or in the car if I want to do it at all.
You are doing really well and having a good time, probably a super-O will hit you when you least expect it. Sounds like you are living on planet orgasm at the moment and have become rewired so unlikely you will hit a dry spell any more.
Not sure if I'm rewired as such but I'm able to orgasm when I want now, A-less, hope it lasts. It's more a question of where will the next one go. I'm just amazed by how many different sorts of orgasms there are.

@Sorena_ I'm 46. I think my sex drive is almost as strong as ever, although as you get older the opportunity for sex reduces, well for me anyway, so I think I am just pleased I have found a great way of getting some gratification.


   
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@orgasmic19, I have the tension in my thighs when orgasming too, a sense of rigidity like happens before ejaculating but it continues while I'm dry orgasming. I'm trying to relax my thighs and other muscles like the PC to see where that goes. @rook said that he tries to move the energy deeper from the thighs to the tendons and bones (correct me if I misunderstood @rook). You also mentioned somewhere here about stretchin your frenulum and feeling on the verge of super orgasm but wishing you could get there. I do this also but have not succeeded in converting to a super o. I'm doing the relaxing thing with my thighs and other muscles in the hope of. We'll see. Also I'm using peridise and dildo rather than prostate devices to get there. I can produce nice anal orgasms while stimulating my frenulum at peak arousal and PONR for a long time. Unfortunately I haven't had a super O with this method yet. Fortunately it is sooooo wonderful I don't care. I get such wonderful anal contractions with these devices in, sort of comforting and glorious I can't believe it's happening. Of course I circulate the sexual energy while doing this to move the sensations everywhere. I really would like to get the same involuntary anal contractions with the prostate devices.

@smudgefish, That non-ejaculatory orgasm sounds great. Did you have the involuntary contrtactions of anus, PC, cremaster, etc. as with a traditional? If you could write up how you did that, you could sell a lot of books to men, retire wealthy, give yourself and wife space to get close again. Just musing...


   
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@smudgefish @orgazmo @euphemistic

Dry penile O's are very possible, I learned about that recently and already had a few of them(they are tricky though). There is a free ebook on scribd.com which is a unnarrated collection of forum posts and tutorials which covers that (and alot of other things). I'm not home this weekend, so i will deliver the link later. In short: the trick is to keep your pelvic floor completely relaxed while masturbating, since the auto-pilot orgasm-trigger-reflex relies on an involuntary contraction of it. The approach is very similar to Dry-O's, hence the lucky accident. Keep muscular tension to zero, speed & breath slow and push mental arousal. When you feel your juices moving and gathering around your prostate, it's a certain sign that you approach an ejaculation. So calm down and start over at this point.


   
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@euphemistic I don't really know how it happened and didn't really notice the detail because I was expecting to have a normal ejaculatory orgasm and really thought I was having one at the time, so I probably did have all the usual contractions as I wasn't trying to control anything. It definitely felt like I was ejaculating though. Strange and very nice, but I wouldn't have a clue how to repeat it!


   
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I've had two dry penile orgasms in a row. Very nice though after the second I felt done ie refectory period. I also had one recently but it tailed the pleasure off into nothing almost like half an orgasm. I always got lots of precum with them.


   
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When I had the dry o from jerking off I had all the feelings of ejaculation as well. Things were "pumping" just like they normal do. My normal dry o's have no sense of ejaculation, other than the couple times it felt like a stream of something came out, but never did.

I do something similar to what @Unfug describes about keeping muscular tension at zero when jerking off sometimes. It has always resulted in a wet o, but if I edge doing this long enough, it allows me to have an orgasm twice as strong and long as I normally would. It even feels more full body in its nature. When I approach the PONR I will always stop completely relax again and try to take every bit of tension out, then start again.

There has been a few times during sessions where it feels like I have a 2 or 3 second super o but I can't hold it for whatever reason. It is accompanied by a huge internal rush and has always started with a dry o.


   
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I forgot to mention I think I had an anal orgasm last night too. It wasn't particularly strong, but it was centered in the anal canal around the Helix. I just sort of forgot about until now because it happened at the beginning of the session.

I've been a whore for the helix the past couple weeks with the way things have been going. I need to give the Progasm and Peredise some ass time as well to see if I can generate any new feelings. In the past I've felt like my a-less sessions were always better, but last night's session with the Helix was the best one yet. Also, I've thought in the past once you get past a couple hours in things won't get better, but last night proved that wrong. My best string of dry o's occured just before my session ended and literally zapped the last shred of energy I had.

Being on time constraints has to be frustrating. Luckily, I'm single and have no kids right now, so nights are free to do whatever I want. The good thing is you can do a-less anywhere so even if you can't ride all the time, you still have a good alternative path to take. I was actually thinking about posting some ads online in order to find someone around my age and my area that is into the Aneros and dry orgasms. I think getting naked and just laying against each other while having a session would really kick things up a notch. It would probably be incredibly difficult to find someone for just this purpose and no sex though.


   
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Thanks @Unfug, I look forward to seeing the link.

I've had a few good orgasms from masturbating and doing the 'tantric' energy spreading thing with complete relaxation of the body, particularly the abdomen, but they have definitely been prostate orgasms. I actually use a bit of prostate and anal contraction to draw the orgasm down and spread it, not sure if that is the wrong thing to do.

@orgazmo finding someone to do this with would be great. Maybe if it led to sex that would be even better? Imagine having an orgasm during sex for an whole hour.


   
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@smudgefish Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to sex, but finding someone that would want to just have body contact for the first couple hours without ejaculating would probably be next to impossible unless they are taking the same path I'm taking with the aneros. Then add in the fact I'm extremely picky when it comes to meeting up with guys, it prob won't happen. I think most gay guys around here are just looking for a quick 15 minute fuck then be on their way. Not that their is anything wrong with that because I know I've been their before. I'd just like to find more of a friend and "exploration" partner and if we did have sex afterwards then even better.


   
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@orgazmo love the new avatar! Maybe someone on here is close enough to you?


   
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It's from a movie I watched with friends when I was a kid. I became obsessed with the orgasm ray gun after that and wanted to have orgasms on demand 🙂

I'm sure there is someone within a few hundred miles at least, but I'm not sure if I would be comfortable giving out my location. It would be cool if this website gave the option of saying what state and country you lived in though.

I decided to ride the Helix again last night then take a few nights off. Another good session with lots of orgasms. I ended up getting too aggressive though and eventually had a wet o. Even after that I felt like I could have kept having dry orgasms, but called it a night and went to bed. Lots of fluttering and shivering last night centered mostly in the pelvic region, but also spreading at times to other parts of my body. I think I may have had a 15 second super o, but it wasn't as strong as the last time and didn't have the floating sensation. It was more of a sublime euphoria that spread over me as I was having dry orgasms.


   
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@orgazmo well done for the small super-O, if it was. I'm sure there is a range of super-Os it can't be an all or nothing thing, just like the normal dry-Os. I haven't had any euphoria sensation for a long time but then both of us having only been doing this a few months and we are already having almost guaranteed orgasms each time so probably in a year from now we will be flying!In terms of meeting another man could you try Gaydar and search or some relevant terms I have certainly put about it on my profile there (not that I ever meet anyone these days, and yes my wife knows about it)?


   
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I occasionally browse through the apps and sites like that. I'll see if I have any luck.

It's crazy how I seem to have reached the pinnacle with the first super o awhile back. Now it seems like I'm having to work my way up to that same level again. Of course I'm a lot happier now that I'm having orgasms all the time which makes it easier to be patient for that next big super o. Even with just a few seconds of trying I can give myself small orgasms.

I'm not 100% sure if that was a super o or not, but think it prob was. Just not as intense and explosive as the 1st one. It definitely had the euphoria and warm fuzzy feeling wrapping around my body. I love the floating sensation though. That's one thing I want back really bad.


   
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I'm a bit like you, my mega super-O was within days of my first ever dry-O (even that was a fully body explosion) and I have yet to get anywhere near that, and no clue how or why it happened back then, maybe a complete lack of expectation.

I'm sure that the relaxation thing is the way to go but I really can't quite do it properly yet. If I totally relax I lose the orgasm which probably has something to do with my mental attitude, I can't fully let go, and I still need just a bit of tension to keep it going. Still a lot to learn, although I did manage to draw the orgasm into my abdomen much better today.
Things do seem to go in cycles though. A few weeks ago I had a super_O, a few days ago I could orgasm at nothing but it's taking a bit longer now (I think my stress levels are higher at the moment), I find that with each cycle things keep getting better, so just letting it go at it's own pace might result in another super-O but I'm trying not to expect anything. I'm always grateful that I experienced such an amazing thing at all, 99% of men never have and never will.

Be patient and happy with where you are and it will happen.


   
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Ok guys, so here is the link:

https://de.scribd.com/doc/3036324/Man-Health-and-Multiple-Orgasm

You can read it directly online. If you want to download it, you must register a free account on scribd. It's a bit confusing to read sometimes, because it seems to be a work of copy and paste with passages taken from different forums which each have a different approach on MMO's. The most interesting part about Dry-penile-O's is right at the start. Some later chapter covers the technique of "Ballooning" by some taoist called Dr. Lin that goes deeply into the body-chemical functionality which can be quite exhausing to read (at least for a non-native speaker like me). One chapter even covers JJ KSMO, but that's just limitedly helpfull, because there is no a presentation of the Key Sound (hardly possible in a book). I hope this is no violation of any rules here, because JJ makes a living from his seminar and I suspect he did not licensed this chapter.

I'm not completely through with it because it gets harder and harder (and more boring) to read towards the end. ~X(

I hope you will find it helpfull! 🙂


   
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@Unfug
Oh, I thought it was that one.

I posted the link already.

I recommended it back then and, from what I remember, I'd recommend it again today.


   
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@smudgefish I experimented relaxing during dry orgasms some last night. I applied the same technique as when I am edging. The result was I couldn't even fully relax before another orgasm hit. It seemed to keep triggering a new orgasm each time. This happened about 10 times. If I could control this better, it seems like I could create more energy for a much larger and deeper orgasm. I'm going to keep playing around with this some.

@Unfug That is an awesome link. Just skimming through, it looks like it contains all sorts of good info. I'll have to make time to read it. I may just print it out to save my eyes from the computer screen.


   
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@Unfug
Oh, I thought it was that one.

I posted the link already.

I recommended it back then and, from what I remember, I'd recommend it again today.

Nice coincidence 🙂
I recommend it as well since it covers so many different and interesting approaches on MMO's, but i think it needs a better structure to make it more readable.

@Unfug That is an awesome link. Just skimming through, it looks like it contains all sorts of good info. I'll have to make time to read it. I may just print it out to save my eyes from the computer screen.

You're welcome. I would suggest an ebook reader (like the kindle). They are not so expensive and I do read quite a lot since I got one myself. Or if you own a recent (big screen) smartphone, you may install a suitable app wich can display ebook formats like "EBookDroid". They can usually display white text on black background, which makes it stressless to read from screen.

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Thanks @Unfug


   
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I've got to recommend trying something that I'm doing. I lay on my stomach and position my penis under me so the frenulum is stretched and some pressure is applied to the glans. This puts me into almost continuous orgasm. It's literally impossible for me not to be in orgasm when I'm doing this. The very second I get positioned like this the orgasms start. I just spent the last hour doing this a-less and my whole body is just shaking right now. It's got to be only a matter of time before I get blown away with a super o. I've got too much sexual energy that has accumulated right now and think its going to bust through in a big way soon. Time to lay back down..... 😀


   
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Ok, there are some diminishing returns on that technique, but for reaching orgasm quickly and reliably I've found this to be a nice hack. However, after a little bit, things become desensitized and you have to move on to something else.

I decided to finish off last night with a wet o and ended up having 5 in the span of a few minutes. Crazy....It was like I didn't even have a refractory period after the first few.


   
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@smudgefish Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to sex, but finding someone that would want to just have body contact for the first couple hours without ejaculating would probably be next to impossible unless they are taking the same path I'm taking with the aneros. Then add in the fact I'm extremely picky when it comes to meeting up with guys, it prob won't happen. I think most gay guys around here are just looking for a quick 15 minute fuck then be on their way. Not that their is anything wrong with that because I know I've been their before. I'd just like to find more of a friend and "exploration" partner and if we did have sex afterwards then even better.

I've been exploring this through sensual massage exchanges with gay, bi, curious men. There's a meetup.com group near me. The idea is to build up arousal without releasing it. The negotiations around sex are tricky for me, sometimes I really just want a whole body massage, sometimes I want more. I usually say initially that I just want a massage. If they're good at that, that gets the orgasms going. Sometimes I become emotional so tell them beforehand so they don't think something is wrong. That being said I haven't found my perfect massage partner yet. I did find someone who became a dear friend.


   
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@euphemistic I've seen some massage ads online before. I think most of them are "professional" and take payment though. Also when I see massage, I automatically think it is a euphemism for paid sex which isn't going to happen. Getting a massage does sound appealing and I would think it would fit in well with an aneros session. A full body sensual massage with lots of body contact would compliment an aneros session very well. The trouble is going to be finding someone who will want to avoid ejaculation for more than 15 or 20 minutes. 99.9% of guys are very goal oriented when it comes to sex and won't take time to build the sexual energy. Then add in that I'm picky with who I meet up with. I've had a few bites (mostly from older men), but nothing really has come of it so far. I generally prefer guys around my age or younger, but at least 21 or so.


   
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I first went to a professional masseuse who did sensual massage near me in Boston. He did an excellent job for 1.5 hours, with all the accessories, music, lights, scents, oils, even reiki healing and chakra scrying (?) with a pendulum. He made clear at the onset that he doesn't do release. It was wonderful, had me shaking and in tears at times. Well worth the money.

@Orgazmo, you can ask what kind of massage they do and decide if that's what you want. Mine actually does prostate massage but I found out too late to take advantage. The personal free sensual massage exchange OTOH is a mixed bag. Some are better at it but don't have the touch I want and some just want sex and can't massage. I've learned to look for someone who has experience in sensual massage and says they just want that and not release.

I'm less picky in my advanced years than I used to be. It matters to me as far as my arousal but more important is the guy's touch and how well he can get into massaging me. I'm very intuitive about how I massage. Went to a pool party this weekend and wound up doing a serial back massages, guys lined up like in a conga line. My recipient said I was very good and suggested we meet up later on for lunch.

Riding with other guys in person is another option. You can agree to not touch but talk about what's going on, or to touch only certain places, penis no, to arouse yourselves. However in practice that has always ended up in sex for me. I've been negotiating with a guy who wants me to coach him with his new helix for months, and he finally got it. I'll see what happens. I put out in the meetup.com group and dating sites that I like to coach aneros and some guys take me up on it. Remember you can always say what you want to do and what you don't want to do in these session.


   
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@euphemistic I wouldn't mind paying someone for a real massage if they were really a professional masseuse and not really a prostitute. Getting a massage like you describe in the beginning of your post sounds amazing. Not sure if there are any around here like that, but I'll keep an eye out. I really want to try a session with another guy and just have body contact without penis stimulating. Afterwards, sex would be great.


   
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