Long break from the aneros

Awesome!!! Sounds like you are getting it 🙂

Yep I'm English. Don't live there anymore though.

Love, love love your attitude at the end of your post - "was a good session".

Keep that attitude up even when you are disappointed you didn't get to where you wanted to go.

Frustration, annoyance etc. is a killer of progression in this "game".

Cheers dude, where you living now? seems like were on at the same time, europe somewhere?

Anyways, i have to say i used to feel very frustrated indeed, but now its not frustration mentally that effects me, its a sort of despair/sadness.

Sexual frustration, yes, i would feel that if i was at the edge of orgasm, certainly.

Whats a good position for you? do you find your legs being a distraction? i wonder if lying flat could be the way forward somehow....

I have to ask, do you "know" when you're a certain kind of horny? sometimes i know that what i want is penile orgasm or rather my body knows, and less often i know I'm wanting an aneros. I am curious to know if you have a gauge sort of ratio of sessions that are traditional to those that are aneros based?

I think the penile variety comes when i feel i don't have the effort needed for something else, when i just need a 'release', my most successful aneros sessions happen when I'm really horny and want to draw out the feelings, slowly for as long as possible. I guess its down to mental and physical energy levels?

@inhope

"Slowly" is good.

Yeah I live in Europe now.

Good position for me is lying with 2 pillows under my hips on my back. No distraction with legs.

Honestly I'm not really bothered about penile orgasms these days UNLESS it's during sex with my girlfriend.

Ejaculatory orgasms from masturbation just seem to be so weak compared to ejaculatory orgasms from sex these days.

I've never noticed that before.

I mean the sensations are the same as before but it's like I never really appreciated how lame wanking ejaculations are compared to cumming inside a woman.

And I don't really feel that pressure to wank and relieve tension anymore. My body has realised that having aless whenever I want is much more fun!

But YES, I do know exactly what you mean when you say "certain type of horny". It does feel different to want penis fun and aneros/aless fun.

Well here is some advice that i can actually impart, I've had the odd session of masturbation and a good few with the cobra libre that were the best ejaculatory orgasms I've ever known, i advise you try it, you definitely need your prostate along for the ride, but trust me.... worth it.

I once ejaculated so hard that i came for a solid 30 seconds straight and it was so intense that i was dribbling out of my mouth, i felt like i was going to pass out. Amazing! i have also, through the use of the aneros and dildos had multiple ejaculatory super T's, one being on the blog here:

Trust me... worth it.

https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/16439/just-had-the-most-unforgettable-experience-wow-5-orgasms-squirting#Item_25

If i choose this method, a combination of slight tensing pc muscles, penis tension, and having something pressing on the prostate, i get multiple ejacs, a minimum of two usually. Ive also had a super wet orgasm through sex, very recently too. Once i recall a blow job i got that produced the best orgasm I've ever had, i had the wind taken out of me, it was an ethereal experience. (possibly having a dual aless and normal arousal session)

One quick thing: two pillows under your hips, you mean your ass? that would be a serious bend for me, or you mean one each cheek?

Sounds fun!

Pillows - thick pillows one on top of the other. Yeah under your ass, both pillows under both cheeks.

Sounds fun!

Pillows - thick pillows one on top of the other. Yeah under your ass, both pillows under both cheeks.

Forgive me but i find that a little strange, I've tried it with two before as well but it elevates me far too much, one is probably enough, unless your pillows are very thin. What effect does this have for you? your legs are just 'flat'

No my feet are on the bed, my ass is on the pillows with the end of my ass hanging off and then my knees are bent onto the bed.

Like when you slip a pillow under a girls hips to stimulate her front wall more when you fuck her.

I'm taller than you though I think (I'm 5"10)

What does the pillows do for you exactly? raising your ass here is the goal, but i have to ask why?

Stops the handle of the helix getting caught on the bed.

Other than that, dunno. Feels good 🙂

Thats cool but you can remove the handle, most people seem to. it also increases the positions you can use with the devices.

Thats cool but you can remove the handle, most people seem to.

Only a few do that.

I certainly wouldn't.

Thats cool but you can remove the handle, most people seem to.

Only a few do that.

I certainly wouldn't.

i would wager more than a few do, why wouldn't you do that?

Make a poll you'll see. Very few, I am certain.

Why I won't do it ? I don't break expensive stuff unless it is the only way to make it work. And for me it works perfectly as is. Also I see benefits to this design. And what if some day I discover even more benefits to it and can't go back ? Anyway, this orgasm thing is mostly neural... Altering a plastic thingy is only remotely relevant.

you can always buy another, support the company that has help give you something special and unique.... there is more benefit for it not being there, it opens up more possibility in technique.

It being there opens up possibilities too. I like the symmetry.

Owning 4 models (not counting the second Peridise) and contributing as much as I did here, I think I have supported Aneros far enough already.

It being there opens up possibilities too.

You have me intrigued Sir, would you care to share?

Thats cool but you can remove the handle, most people seem to.

Only a few do that.

I certainly wouldn't.

Agreed! I won't remove mine either. I think only a few do as well.

Stops the handle of the helix getting caught on the bed.

Other than that, dunno. Feels good 🙂

Just had another session, this time no interruptions.

I found i had to get over an initial hump at the 5-10 mins mark. As soon as the device was in, i t felt like i was on the verge of orgasm, they faded and i was left horney and numb. But i persisted and kept relaxing, the the feelings did come back I'm happy to say.

But what i found is when it returned it wasn't more intense, often it was less, occasionally, and i mean that, it would be more intense, but ONLY if i had stimulated my nipples and thought of a fantasy. I also had to change position often, it felt like i was on a sort of life support, just managing to get the feelings back but not letting the prostate/feelings lead me. Also, i have NEVER in my 10 years of trying with the aneros needed to p!s so much in all my life, three times! and when i did go it was like niagra falls. VERY distracting. Oh and two pillows = great.

I don't know how to feel about it, its successful yes, but what is happening? is it such a new thing that my body and mind need practise at this approach before i can achieve a higher yield of pleasure each time it returns?

Just had another session, this time no interruptions.

I found i had to get over an initial hump at the 5-10 mins mark. As soon as the device was in, i t felt like i was on the verge of orgasm, they faded and i was left horney and numb. But i persisted and kept relaxing, the the feelings did come back I'm happy to say.

But what i found is when it returned it wasn't more intense, often it was less, occasionally, and i mean that, it would be more intense, but ONLY if i had stimulated my nipples and thought of a fantasy. I also had to change position often, it felt like i was on a sort of life support, just managing to get the feelings back but not letting the prostate/feelings lead me. Also, i have NEVER in my 10 years of trying with the aneros needed to p!s so much in all my life, three times! and when i did go it was like niagra falls. VERY distracting. Oh and two pillows = great.

I don't know how to feel about it, its successful yes, but what is happening? is it such a new thing that my body and mind need practise at this approach before i can achieve a higher yield of pleasure each time it returns?

Yeah I like the two pillow approach.

Needing to piss - well at least you know it is definately stimulating the front wall!

Okay, you need to stop thinking or wishing it was more intense when it comes back.

I know Crimsonwolf says his comes back more intense but your experience is different.

I think it is different because you have expectations of it being more intense and therefore you are subtly "trying" too much.

The constant need to change positions etc. means you are "chasing the feelings".

This is not going to help you.

STOP chasing feelings.

Here's what you should try to do:

Accept that you are going to lose the feelings. Accept it is normal and don't chase more intense feelings.

Start viewing your aneros sessions as a meditation where you are just going to get nice and relaxed and enjoy it like a MASSAGE.

When you have a massage are you constantly chasing more and more nice feelings?

NO.

You just relax and enjoy the feelings.

This reaching, striving, chasing for more intense feelings on any level is going to KILL your arousal and session and as you can see THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOU.

Secondly, what's your breathing like?

Deep slow breaths tend to slow down arousal to the point where it MIGHT be killing it.

Next time you have sex or masturbate to ejaculatory orgasm, pay attention to your breathing - especially when you are about to come.

Normally we pant/breath through our mouths and we groan as we breath out.

Replicate that breathing during your session - don't obsess about not being able to replicate it perfectly and for gods sake don't strive to get more intense feelings from it.

Just breath normally through your mouth.

If you've been breathing deeply and slowly throughout your sessions this MIGHT be the reason why your arousal is dropping off after 5 minutes.

Oh and when those feelings go away after 5 minutes just focus on one thing:

The feeling of the p tab pressing into your perinium.

Forget about intensity of feelings etc. just touch yourself, breath normally and enjoy the pressure of the tab against your perinium.

I position mine to the right hand side of my ridge.

You'll find that if you stay relaxed things start to wind up from there.

But be aware that you don't need a continious upward spiral of pleasure for a super orgasm.

You could literally have 30 minutes of nothing and then BAM out of nowhere you are suddenly in super orgasm.

I think you have the idea that it's a constant, logical ramping up of pleasure but it doesn't have to be.

No you misunderstand, i wasn't disappointed that it didn't come back more intense, i was just happy it came back, but puzzled because in all the literature, stories and information this is one thing that i believed to be truth.

Secondly, the five minute point i felt nothing, not even arousal. i really had to focus on arousal again for it to work, after that i was in the zone so to speak. Changing positions worked well and is good, a lot of people mention doing this and i think that i can help keep things fresh.

30 mins of nothing? how do you stop yourself falling asleep?, feeling nothing but relaxed/lying down... hmmm not sure i can understand that.

I do have the idea of 'ramping up' yes because nobody and i mean nobody until your reply has ever said to me that it does not have to be. Quite the contrary in fact, look at what they have said their guides that it 'ramps up' that its 'more intense'. So what was i supposed to think if it didn't? 😉

"Oh and when those feelings go away after 5 minutes just focus on one thing:


The feeling of the p tab pressing into your perinium."

Will try that, thanks! (though i get no pleasure from my perineum being touched, sometimes that too goes so numb i cannot feel it) lastly, how big/tall are you @neros?

No you misunderstand, i wasn't disappointed that it didn't come back more intense, i was just happy it came back, but puzzled because in all the literature, stories and information this is one thing that i believed to be truth.

Secondly, the five minute point i felt nothing, not even arousal. i really had to focus on arousal again for it to work, after that i was in the zone so to speak. Changing positions worked well and is good, a lot of people mention doing this and i think that i can help keep things fresh.

30 mins of nothing? how do you stop yourself falling asleep?, feeling nothing but relaxed/lying down... hmmm not sure i can understand that.

I do have the idea of 'ramping up' yes because nobody and i mean nobody until your reply has ever said to me that it does not have to be. Quite the contrary in fact, look at what they have said their guides that it 'ramps up' that its 'more intense'. So what was i supposed to think if it didn't? 😉

"Oh and when those feelings go away after 5 minutes just focus on one thing:


The feeling of the p tab pressing into your perinium."

Will try that, thanks! (though i get no pleasure from my perineum being touched, sometimes that too goes so numb i cannot feel it) lastly, how big/tall are you @neros?

Okay, but you aren't feeling "nothing". You just aren't feeling the sensations you want to be feeling. If you felt "nothing" you'd be dead 😉

Yeah give up on the ramping up idea. It MIGHT ramp up, it MIGHT not.

I'm trying to kill off your expectations here because I think there is some level of trying here that you aren't aware of.

You see it isn't 30 minutes plus of nothing.

It's a long time of lying there and then focusing on the p tab (for example) pressing into me.

A few minutes into that I get a twitch in my perinium then I'm like "oooh that was nice" and I allow myself to get excited by that.

What do I mean by allow myself to get excited?

I mean I groan and I'm like "yeah that feels good". Sometimes I feel I'm exagarrating a little bit when I do so but it works.

Then the feelings go away. I keep focusing on the p tab or maybe the arm of the aneros or even my sphicter - basically whereever I feel any sensation.

Remember - the feeling of the p tab pressing into me IS NOT arousing. It might even be a little uncomfortable sometimes but I can FEEL it.

I stay relaxed and then maybe another twitch.

"Oh cool something happened!!" - cue mini mental celebration.

Then it fades away.

Then I might start running some sexual fantasies through my head. I ENJOY those mental images.

Then I might lightly brush my nipple one or twice until it arouses me and then I STOP. Enjoy that arousal.

It then fades away but all the time I've kept my focus on the physical pressure of the p tab in my perinium.

BTW - I get no sexual pleasure from my perinium being touched as well. But as the p tab really presses in there deep I do as I get very close to super o.

After a period of time I start feeling new sensations - warmth, buzzing in my belly. That might stop and go away until a period of time later I feel rushing in my balls.

That might stop and go away and then come back.

Its an undulating journey.

Because everyone has their own perspective on the feelings they are experiencing you've got certain expectations of what you should be feeling.

I think you need to just come into this with no expectation of any particular feelings, just observe what you get.

You haven't answered me when I've said this to you before but have you got the Key Sound Protocol? There's some stuff in there that will REALLY help you.

I'm 5 foot 10 inches.

The key sound stuff I've not considered, what is that exactly? i know there are threads around here somewhere, but i don't hold much in those, even though i consider myself quite the esoteric explorer the KSMO doesn't sit right with me, not sure why. Would loved to be proven wrong of course.

I see so not focusing on 'feeling pleasure' but just 'feeling' period? ok. i can do that.

My last session i found that the ramp ups (ok not 'ups', but when the feelings returned) it was always a sort of warmth and a feeling of an echo of orgasm. If I'm really honest each time it returned it was a little different and yes one was probably more intense than the others. I stopped because i felt bored, the arousal went/my mental fantasies wouldn't cut it, i don't know... i just got restless?

I didn't say it but my last session was a good one, in some ways my best, because i broke that 5 min barrier (which i do feel requires some effort as its now so ingrained in my sessions/mind. eventually i will phase it out of my autonomic response)

I have all the aneros devices and i really don't know which device is good to stick with, they all work I'm sure, but what one is right for now. My last session was the SGX but after a while the p tab was pressing so tightly into my perineum that it was sort of uncomfortable (mildly) so i may try the MGX next, the size diff should do something.

Then i will try with the eupho and then the helix/progasm jr and see what works best. Its good you only have one device, i have 'aneros toy schizophrenia' at the moment!

SGX P TAB!!!

YES IT DOES FEEL SLIGHTLY UNCOMFORTABLE. THATS GOOD!!!

Remember I keep on going on about aching in my ass? The ache itself (although you don't experience it yourself) is actually a bit uncomfortable. It feels like a cramp almost.

But its that feeling that when I relax into it it turns pleasurable.

Use your SGX again and when the tab becomes uncomfortable focus on that feeling and relax into it.

It will "pinch" almost. YES!!!

Its "painful" because it is stimulating a nerve very intensely. Its this that will cause orgasm.

The sensations leading up to super orgasm can be interpreted as uncomfortable because you are stimulating sensitive areas.

Relax into them and you'll find that they aren't so painful.

Obviously if you feel real pain please stop!!

But slight uncomfortable feelings or pinching or "sort of painful" - normally good signs.

The tab will dig deep the closer you get towards orgasm. And that is often interpreted as slightly painful by your brain.

Pain and pleasure are kissing cousins. That's why some people like getting spanked etc.

Keysound

Key sound sounds eosteric and to be honest with you the way people talk about it both here and over at the KSMO forum is a bit eosteric but here's the long and short of how it works:

Orgasms happen when arousal reaches really high levels.

Continiously stimulating your penis and tenis your PC and pelvic muscles triggers the ejaculation response with orgasm.

The Keysound Method is a way of increasing arousal to orgasmic heights without triggering the ejaculation reflex.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE ANEROS PROSTATE STIMULATION DOES.

Both keysound and aneros are AROUSAL AMPLIFICATION methods.

With the aneros, the arousal is amplified by prostate stimulation.

With KSMO, arousal is amplified by using a certain sound to amplify arousal at certain points.

Here's a brief overview of the KSMO method. I feel comfortable explaining this for free here because this protocol is freely explained on their forum. But if you want to know how to do the key sound is though you'll have to buy the program. its only $99 I think and the owner Jack is a great guy who deserves to get paid for something he has created so please think of that if you find any pirated copies online - not suggesting you would but its something I feel is worth mentioning.

1. Get into a comfortable position

2. Relax and breathe NORMALLY. The KSMO method does talk about deep breathing but I've found focusing on that requires too much logical concentration. And if you use the key sound correctly you'll breath correctly anyway.

Don't try and force it to be deep. You should be focused on your body sensations and you'll probably forget about your breathing - in the same way you do when you are going about your daily life.

Forgetting about your breathing helps you notice the "charging breath" which is a key part of the KSMO protocol.

3. Once you've relaxed for a few minutes start light stimulation on an erogenous zone (can be your penis) UNTIL you get a twinge of arousal/excitement etc.

4. The instant you feel that twinge you'll notice that you suddenly take an inbreath. Remember I said to not focus on your breathing? Well its that not worrying about your breathing that allows you to notice that you've taken an inbreath that is deeper/different than previous inbreaths.

5. When you exhale that "charging breath" aka that deeper than normal inbreath, you use the Key Sound.

6. You then monitor your body for "echo effects" and relax and enjoy them for 2-3 breaths - though you aren't focusing on your breathing or counting how many. Its just an approximation.

Echo effects are any kinds of feelings that you feel across your body. From a half second tingle in your shoulders to more pleasurable sensations.

7. Repeat steps 3-6.

Basically the echo effect (over a number of sessions) become stronger and stronger until they become orgasms. Basically echo effects are orgasms themselves and with practice of the KSMO method these echo effects become more and more intense each session.

Why would this be good for you?

I've just started to have orgasms with this method WITHOUT mental arousal. Just using physical stimulation followed by a keysound my echo effects are now becoming orgasmic (and more orgasmic each session)

I think this would be a good method for you because you are struggling with arousal drop offs and boredom.

The key sound sessions are supposed to be about 20 minutes long 2 or 3 times a week so that should help you kill off the boredom factor.

Secondly, this method will teach you so much about arousal building in a way that I can't really explain here on a forum and in a way that will compliment your aneros sessions.

I think it could be the thing to push you over the edge.

Don't expect instant result though. Just think of it as a way to learn how to build and surf your arousal without drop offs.

To add on the "esoteric" nature of key sound.

It's not esoteric because all it does is play on the fact that vocalising our sexual pleasure tends to amplify it.

Our mind and body is linked so if we "act" like we are experiencing increasing arousal our brain thinks we are and acts accordingly.

Jack isn't the first to play on the fact that vocalising pleasure tends to amplify the pleasure we feel BUT what he has done is found a particular sound that is the FAST TRACK to amplifying that pleasure to orgasmic heights without triggering ejaculation.

So, no it ain't some hippy stuff. 🙂

Re the sgx p tab.... I had always assumed it s because the device is too small that it was digging in, I knew it was to do that when nearing orgasm but other devices seem to do this less so. It's not an ache it's more of an itch yes.

Do you leak precum much you find? I always get a bit that if I want it a tiny bit will dribble out, for some reason I wish I leaked more, it's hot.

Yeah its like a "pinch". It's a good thing. Focus on it.

I leak fuck all precum and it sucks cos its fucking hot. I get a tiny pinprick when I masturbate but basically nothing.

I have sensitive skin there because of jock itch which I'm treating (it's quite badly scratched) but I find that it's hard to distinguish the pinch type.

Also @neros I've sent you a private message, would really appreciate your input/thoughts. Thanks!