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I am not a beginner with anal play; it interested me from the moment I was exposed to the idea in my early teenage years. I have been using fingers and toys for over a decade now, as well as penetration by a partner. I picked up a Helix Classic a few years back due to the promise of incredible sensations with sufficient practice, and have been experimenting with it when I have the opportunity throughout the intervening time until now. My body tends to respond the best to gentle strokes as opposed to hard shoves, so it sounded perfect for me.

The thing is... it never works for me. Not just the Aneros, but virtually any technique, and I have tried quite a few. The only unambiguously pleasurable experience I have been able to have occurred several years ago, when I managed about two or three seconds of pleasure from anilingus. I could never replicate that experience, nor get anything similar to it from another means, not even briefly. Even normal penile stimulation has felt hollow my entire life: I can manage arousal and ejaculation normally, but it barely feels like anything, there is no "orgasm" in the sense of pleasant sensation.

Despite years of trying, the location of my prostate remains elusive. Perhaps it is naturally very small, because neither I nor a helpful partner have ever been able to feel the "walnut-shaped" lump that, according to what I read, should be obvious. On a small number of occasions, manual stimulation was able to provoke the phantom "needing to urinate" response that is suppose to signal finding it, but only transiently, never in a way that could be found again or seemed to correspond to any internal structure in particular.

I have a perfectly normal libido, and no emotional trauma that holds me back. I have read all manner of guides and advice. I enter each session with the greatest possible arousal and optimism for success. I am not even terribly concerned with reaching orgasm per se, I would just like the chance to feel good, through whatever method that requires. At this point I am simply confused as to what is wrong. In the collective wisdom of this forum, what can be done? Has anyone here had the same experience?


   
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In 11 years of sessions I feel I have found a kindred spirit!

it took 9 years to feel anything at all but I needed to follow the contraction guides on the wiki closely to get anywhere and multiple devices, peridise really changed things for me


   
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So, if I understand correctly, you have a healthy libido, get hard, can ejaculate but little pleasant sensation / orgasm. How old are you? are you on any medications that might affect things? As for feeling the walnut, it often is not very obvious - especially for the person massaging you [unless they are a doctor].


   
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Another question - how often do you ejaculate?


   
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So, if I understand correctly, you have a healthy libido, get hard, can ejaculate but little pleasant sensation / orgasm. How old are you? are you on any medications that might affect things? As for feeling the walnut, it often is not very obvious - especially for the person massaging you [unless they are a doctor].

I am in my late twenties. I am transgender (MtF), so I have been on hormones for the last several years - this has reduced my libido noticeably, but it was pretty high before so it just came down to the level of an average female. The problem existed before I began hormones, though, so I would not blame anything on them, save for the fact that they tend to shrink the prostate a bit, which is not helpful for this purpose. I would estimate ejaculating around twice a week, sometimes more or less depending on the circumstances.


   
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Thanks for your response. Please stick around and actively engage with the rest of us, not just so that you can learn from us but so we can learn from you. Take care and have a great day!


   
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I am not a beginner with anal play; it interested me from the moment I was exposed to the idea in my early teenage years. I have been using fingers and toys for over a decade now,

Same here. Just not with partner.

I picked up a Helix Classic a few years back due to the promise of incredible sensations with sufficient practice, and have been experimenting with it when I have the opportunity throughout the intervening time until now. My body tends to respond the best to gentle strokes as opposed to hard shoves, so it sounded perfect for me.

How long have you been using Aneros toys?
Strokes? so you are using the Helix like a dildo?

The thing is... it never works for me. Not just the Aneros, but virtually any technique, and I have tried quite a few.

Same here, until last night. Still early days for me, but now coming up to 2 years and 9 months.

Even normal penile stimulation has felt hollow my entire life: I can manage arousal and ejaculation normally, but it barely feels like anything, there is no "orgasm" in the sense of pleasant sensation.

Is that due to masturbating too often?

Despite years of trying, the location of my prostate remains elusive. Perhaps it is naturally very small, because neither I nor a helpful partner have ever been able to feel the "walnut-shaped" lump that, according to what I read, should be obvious.

I've never been able to locate my prostate with my hands or even dildos / probes. A doc once performed a DRE on me and I could tell a different feeling, but it wasn't pleasurable (which I think is supposed to be normal given the circumstance).

On a small number of occasions, manual stimulation was able to provoke the phantom "needing to urinate" response that is suppose to signal finding it, but only transiently, never in a way that could be found again or seemed to correspond to any internal structure in particular.

Wait.. what?? Those need to pee feelings are supposed to be good to have??

At this point I am simply confused as to what is wrong. In the collective wisdom of this forum, what can be done? Has anyone here had the same experience?

Me too: confused by my own experience.

Hope you find an answer.


   
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How long have you been using Aneros toys?
Strokes? so you are using the Helix like a dildo?

About four or five years, - although there was a year-long gap at one point due to life situation. And no, I use the Helix according to the instructions and advice: abdominal contractions, fluttering breathing, trying different positions, and so on. I only referred to "strokes" in the general sense of preferring subtle tactile sensations.

Is that due to masturbating too often?

No, because the act always lacked pleasure, rather than becoming so later on. Even if I abstained for over a month, it did not make any difference.

Wait.. what?? Those need to pee feelings are supposed to be good to have??

My impression was that the desire to urinate is not "good" on its own, just something that can happen from pressing on the prostate.

Thanks for your response. Please stick around and actively engage with the rest of us, not just so that you can learn from us but so we can learn from you. Take care and have a great day!

Thank you, I will continuing watching the thread and answering any questions.


   
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So, an update. I have been practicing whenever I have time without interruptions, and have noticed a few things. The main thing being that I get the most promising, if fleeting, sensations from laying down on my side (either) and pulling both my legs up to my chest, then doing a light Kegels contraction and gently rocking my hips in a circular motion. Although not quite pleasurable, there is occasional tingling, and it occasionally gives me erections, which seem like good signs. I have had trouble replicating it, though.

Any advice about technique? Also, are there any models other than the Helix that might work better for me? I am unsure if it is hitting me in the right spot.


   
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Bandwidth, you may want to give the Eupho classic a try.....I believe some toys are a better match for some


   
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Bandwidth, you may want to give the Eupho classic a try.....I believe some toys are a better match for some

Agree 100%. If the tool does not work now, it probably will someday; at least that has been my experience:sometimes it just takes that "special session" before things come to life.


   
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Bandwidth, you may want to give the Eupho classic a try.....I believe some toys are a better match for some

I was kind of curious about the Eupho, since it seems like something that works amazingly for some people and not at all for others. What makes you think it would be a good match for me?


   
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Hello Bandwidth,

Through experimentation of various aneros products the ones that currently work best for me is the use of the smallest Peridise (purchased from the High Island Health site) for about an hour or so while watching tv, just relaxing and observing any tingling or feelings of pleasure. This provides me with stimulation of the anus, perineum, and the kundalini area around the tail bone. After a sense of arousal I switch to the Helix Syn to accentuate the feelings of arousal further. Sometimes to orgasm, sometimes just pleasurable feelings.

My initial months of using aneros were focused on my prostate but it wasn't awakened yet and for me the path to prostate awakening/pleasure was through the anus, perineum, and kundalini areas(especially here). Gradually, pleasurable feelings increased for me as I regularly used the Peridise.

I don't know if the Peridise / Helix Syn approach will work for you but I wanted to let you know my experience and encourage you to keep trying.

My best to you!


   
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My initial months of using aneros were focused on my prostate but it wasn't awakened yet and for me the path to prostate awakening/pleasure was through the anus, perineum, and kundalini areas(especially here). Gradually, pleasurable feelings increased for me as I regularly used the Peridise.

If you do not mind, could you elaborate on that? What kind of techniques do you use to stimulate those areas, and what kind of sensations do you look for? I have read a great deal about the prostate, but there is less information on things like the kundalini area. Thank you!


   
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Hi Bandwidth,

The aneros Peridise is a unisex anal stimulation toy. When I first used it I felt nothing and was discouraged because my expectations of bliss met my reality of "this may take some time". The peridise is used to induce peristaltic movements in your rectum. Peristalsis is what moves and expels waste from your rectum and out the anus.

As my use of the peridise continued I focused more and more on the muscle contractions and sensations used to poop. Think of muscles in your back around the lower waist area and then lower down the spinal cord along the vertebrae down to the tail bone and on down to your anus.
So rather than pleasure from the prostate my initial success was with an anal stimulation toy, the peridise, that provided the peristaltic sensations of the rectum and anus. The area of arousal and pleasure gradually expanded and increased in intensity so that now my central buttock muscles along the spine can light up with pleasure. As the peristaltic contractions and central buttock contractions became stronger there were more peristaltic contractions in my rectum and anus and anal canal.

Over time the area of arousal expanded from primarily my back-side to front-side, that being my perineum and eventually up to my prostate. Once the area of pleasure and arousal included my prostate that's when, after warming up with the peridise, I could switch in the Helix Syn and feel prostate pleasure. I think this works for me because the rectal and anal contractions are what moves the Helix Syn in a prostate massage and stimulating manner.

The pleasure I feel from the peridise is now so wonderful that although I seek out prostate pleasure too if I had my prostate removed I would be content with the amazing pleasure provided to me by the aneros peridise.

Bandwidth, once you become aware of and can conjure up pleasurable feelings from your anus and up your back to your tail-bone and up your spine to your lower waist, don't stop there! Use your mind to visualize the pleasure moving up your spinal cord to the area of muscle between your shoulder blades. From there project the pleasure forward into your breasts and out through your nipples. As a male who never experienced much pleasure from their breasts this was for me a first, orgasms in my breasts!

My best to you on your aneros journey!


   
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Thank you so much for the detailed and informative breakdown of the topic. That does sound pretty nice - I know from past experiences that my anus seems particularly sensitive, so a technique that targets it could work well for me. You may have convinced me to purchase a Peridise and try it out.

However, before reading your most recent post, I had a session with my Helix to test out what you suggested about not focusing on the prostate, as I had been doing up until now. After inserting it I got on my stomach and did my best to relax completely, letting my body function autonomously while I paid attention to the sensations. This is something I have noticed: trying to intentionally do any sort of contractions, deep breathing, or any other technique just gets in the way for me (although I am sure it works for others), interfering with my body's natural rhythm. The thing I did differently was to concentrate on how my anal sphincter felt wrapped around the Aneros: even if I have not had much luck with getting anything more out of it, I like having something inside of me. As long as it is not too large (and the Helix is very modestly sized) it is a sort of comfy full feeling. So I focused on how nice it was being stretched out a little.

Gradually, tiny involuntary contractions occurred, which is nothing new, but about twenty minutes in, I started feeling very subtle, cold-feeling sensations shooting out from my anus into the surrounding tissue. Suddenly there was a burst of sensation somewhere in the general vicinity of my prostate - although I am not certain where it was specifically, as it was a fairly wide area and it only lasted about two seconds. It was a kind of intense tingling, not quite pleasure but certainly nothing I have experienced before.

While I failed to recover anything like that again during the remainder of the session, I was elated. I actually felt something! It was brief, but now I know I am actually getting somewhere. My hope was beginning to wane after spending so long getting absolutely nothing, so I have vastly more optimism now that this is possible for me. Thank you thank you thank you. Your advice was extremely helpful.


   
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Bandwidth!

You're quite welcome. I'm so happy for you! Your session sounded wonderful!


   
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