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During lockdown, I contacted Dr Roy Levin, the author of the paper ‘Prostate-induced orgasms: A concise review illustrated with a highly relevant case study’. As many of you may know, at the end of his paper, he calls for prostate orgasms to be thoroughly researched through the use of brain imaging.

Here is the paper for all those who are interested but haven’t had a chance to read it yet:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ca.23006

I wanted to talk to Dr Levin about the potential of having a study on prostate orgasms using brain imaging techniques. He’s very interested in this field and contacted his colleague in Holland who provided further information on the costs and finer details of the study.

In short, a study using fMRI would require 30 subjects to take part and would cost €50,000.

A longer and much more detailed four-year study would cost €350,000.

The information from the email is as follows:

“As to your question: I agree with you that afferent input from prostate is an incredibly interesting and important subject. If you asked me to put numbers on it, I would say that with the design you have in mind subjects would have to be scanned twice on separate days. Nowadays, sufficiently powered fMRI studies are said to require around 30 subjects. With a scan rate of appr. 500EU/hr (in Groningen at least), you would be looking at 30k EU for scans only. We would also need a research assistant for analysis and recruitment, so  50k EU would be my ballpark figure for the entire thing.

 What would you get for that?

  • Information about male sexual visceral sensation at central level for the very first time ever
  • Information about male orgasm types at the central level, for the very first time ever. This would have to be investigated at the brain network level.
  • Possibly, scientific acknowledgement of a critical part of human sexuality leading up to improved acceptance of homosexuality

If the group wanted to this more thoroughly still, I would be thinking a PhD student for 4 years and a number of more fundamental studies on prostate innervation and processing of that information. However, this would probably require around 350k EU."

 

Needless to say, either of these studies would provide insight into male sexuality in a way that has never been done before. There’s also the potential that this research could lead to greater understanding not only of how prostate orgasms are processed in the brain, but also how men can achieve this type of pleasure. A study such as this would definitely shine a light on what is currently almost hidden and taboo, a type of pleasure most men should be free to enjoy and yet most will live their lives without ever knowing it exists.

In terms of funding, I’m unsure exactly how this study could be made possible, but I will say openly that I am wondering - is it possible that aneros and/or other companies might consider funding this study? From a business perspective, I’m sure it makes sense as once the public learns there’s another type of male orgasm, I’m certain that will generate interest in prostate stimulation and the toys designed to help men have prostate orgasms.

Other than that, we could make a go fund me, but I would imagine 50k is pretty steep for what is a relatively small community.

If anyone here is in touch with aneros, it would be amazing if you could pass this information onto the relevant people.

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If anyone here is in touch with aneros, it would be amazing if you could pass this information onto the relevant people.

I think this is a great idea and have passed this information on to my contact at Aneros.

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@rumel brilliant, exactly what I was hoping for! Please will you keep us up to date about any developments? 

 


   
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Please will you keep us up to date about any developments?

Sure, but you have to know it is very difficult for small companies to fund these types of research projects. I like your idea of a crowd funding effort. I wonder how many in our membership would be willing to donate to help sponsor this research.

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Possibly, scientific acknowledgement of a critical part of human sexuality leading up to improved acceptance of homosexuality

If this quote came from a description of the study by the PhD student or university where the study will take place, it demonstrates a built in bias and a lack of understanding of prostate orgasms that could skew the study. Does a statement like this indicate that only or mostly "homosexuals" will be selected to participate in the study? What about more acceptance of "heterosexuals" who achieve prostate orgasms, will they be part of this study?


   
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@rumel I would certainly be happy to donate  a small amount myself, that said, unfortunately I am unemployed due to health issues so I don’t have much in the way of income. However, if enough of us made small donations, I’m certain we could raise significant funds that would put a dent in the overall cost. At that point, perhaps aneros could also chip in. It may also be possible that aneros, with their professional connections, could approach other companies (off the top of my head, njoy, lovehoney etc) and see if they might also be interested in making donations. Perhaps you could run this prospect by your connection at aneros, Rumel?  

I’m also trying to think about how it would be best to approach the go fund me. Many men, including myself, use this forum anonymously and go fund me campaigns need an individual’s name for transparency. 

GoFundMe fundraisers must be tied to a single individual, and they must have their full name appear on the fundraiser. The organizer of the GoFundMe fundraiser cannot be anonymous; we have this policy in place to promote transparency.”

Perhaps an aneros employee may be a good person to start the campaign, or a prominent forum member who doesn't mind using their full name.  

I think it’s important that a go fund me campaign should be tied to someone with a little bit of clout in the community in order for it to have legitimacy and to start off on the right foot with aneros users.

Feel free to let me know your thoughts on all of this, hopefully you may have a couple of potential people in mind!

 


   
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@zaqpol that was written by the researcher who Dr Levin contacted to discuss the costs of using an fMRI machine to carry out the study. I’m unsure exactly how or if that person would be involved with the study, but Dr Levin (the person who wrote the original paper) appears to be very familiar with the aneros community - the original case study was a man who’d used an aneros. Dr Levin appears to have used the aneros community to aid his understanding for prostate orgasms. 

I don’t personally have a scientific background but I can see where your concerns might arise from. That said, no, I’m certain that men of all sexual orientations would be welcome. That comment seems to relate to more of a potential byproduct of the confirmation of the existence of prostate orgasms. Since we know homosexual men often practice anal sex, which is looked down upon by some as ‘unnatural’, if a route to orgasm in men via anal sex is proven, that disproves the idea that anal sex is ‘unnatural’. This logically has implications for homosexual men in my opinion, but I understand your concerns. 

I personally think we should be really happy that there are researchers interested in this area. The finer details and concerns can be ironed out as we move along, but it’s good you’ve pointed that out. 

 


   
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Why not discuss this right now, just for fun? You guys know I enjoy playing devil's advocate in such matters, now seems likes a good time to do so. This is all in theory and in good fun by the way, as I'd really like something like this to get off the ground at some point, but I do have some reservations. 

But before going there, I want to thank @benja3001 for doing the legwork and actually contacting Dr. Roy Levin regarding this. I hope you don't think I'm trying to rain on this parade, this could become quite a complex study and I'm not sure if it's going to be as easy as it sounds "on paper". Answering as many questions as possible before jumping headfirst is how we'll get the best "bang for our bucks" if this happens one day. 

 

Let's call the 50k EU study "Option A", and the 350k one, "Option B".

Let's say we set our sights realistically, and we manage to raise 50 thousand Euros to fund Option A. With a combination of GoFundMe, Aneros chipping in, maybe research grants, and as @benja3001 pointed out, some of the big names in the adult toys market possibly participating, this seems like it could happen. I'd be OK with contributing myself. 

Whether you think this is expensive or not, the hourly cost for fMRI testing seems in line with what I can find online, and the rest of the money being used to produce the actual reports doesn't seem extravagant when you think about closely analyzing 60 hours of data from 30 different subjects, and we're not even talking about writing the test protocols themselves, all the notes taking, discussions, finding links between different subjects, subjects interviews, going trough applications, briefing, debriefing, etc. Time flies, and if you ever worked on any scientific or industry report, you know that they get expensive quickly. That's fine, people need to eat and get paid for their work. So let's say that 50 thousand Euros is a good deal for such a study, and let's look at the practical aspects. 

The first issue I see, is who gets to ride the fMRI machine. With the study taking place in the Netherlands, we need some people close by, or people who can travel there on their own dime on a certain schedule. This is not a study about lollipop flavors, so we can't pick any guy from the street. How do we pick the subjects ? Now that gets interesting.

We need some guys who can get reliable S-Os, because at 500 euros a try, we don't want too many dud sessions in the study. Some would be good, because we need to know if there are instances where something is happening in the brain but the subjects doesn't register it as pleasure. But what's really needed is some good, solid, lengthy S-Os. Now, what's everyone success ratio ? Most importantly, can you perform while stuffed in a tube with wires on your head? With people watching? Are chemical help allowed in the study? Cannabis would be the most obvious since it's popular with several users, what about caffeine, nicotine, alcohol? Can people on any type of brain-altering medication participate? How much prep time does everyone need, what if you need more than an hour to build up? What if your session is a 2 hours affair, you just stop? Can you get porn in there? What if all your good sessions are in the early morning or at night? 

Basically, can we find 30 guys who will be able to actually get on site, and achieve Super-Os reliably under some pressure, in an unfamiliar environment, with researchers, lab techs around, and with some time and setup constrains ? Don't forget, you have to perform twice, too, on different days. 

I won't touch option B right now, as it has different issues, some of them compounded from Option A. Money is really the lesser issue here. I'm just curious about what you guys think, am I being overly negative here ? 

Maybe I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing, but if this studies happens, and it fails, I don't think we'll get to just start again... The plan needs to be rock-solid. 


   
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@zentai

yup I was thinking the same—not everything, but a couple points. In an hour or two, in the sterility of a lab with very unsexy scientists watching, who can actually perform?

I would love to take part, and would gladly pay my way to the site to do so if it were in the Netherlands. But there would definitely be a fear of not orgasming. I would probably practice my buns off ahead of time.  But even in periods of heavy play, there are moments when I am incapable of getting in the zone in a really serious way. (As a test i just tweaked my nipple and melted: too bad they weren’t scanning my brain just now!) 

 


   
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I tried filming myself a couple of times, as I wanted to verify some things, and it messed with my results, I was alone with the camera but it was enough...  Like you, I feel that I would have to practice a bunch with onlookers or in a group setting, (don't know how I would even do that in the first place...) just to make sure I was not flying all the way from Canada for nothing, and even then, what about jetlag or just plain bad luck, or simply not being in the mood. This is a pretty complex project. 

 

 


   
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Hi, I typed out a full response to you and entered it, but for some reason, it didn’t appear on the thread. So I’m typing it in my phone notes now to make sure it doesn’t happen again. 

Okay so first of all, thank you! You’re totally correct to have these concerns and it’s important to raise them now. As you say, this needs to be done right if it’s going to happen - ironing out these issues now could make everything more plausible.

In terms of where the study actually takes place - I imagine there are more people from the US/Canada here than other countries due to the fact this is an English speaking community. Perhaps there’s a way to confirm this? I could ask Dr Levin what the prospects are of having this study carried out in the US in case that makes things easier.

In regards to how people would be picked, again we would probably need to have a word with Dr Levin, but other than that, I’m 100% happy to leave it the community.

In a similar vein, if there’s an aneros vet, aneros employee, or someone with a scientific background who would like to be the one who liases with Dr Levin, I am more than happy to hand over the baton. Also I just want to say that I haven’t spoken to Dr Levin since the initial encounter mentioned in this thread - but he was very enthusiastic and I’m sure he’ll be delighted if this gains steam. At that point we could always ask him if he wants to be part of the thread, in case that makes things easier.

Just going back to the participants of the study - I’m sure it would be difficult to have success in an MRI machine. I’ve been practicing for a year and I haven’t had any prostate orgasms yet, just some very nice pleasure. So I can’t appreciate how difficult it would be at all, to put it simply. That said, I imagine that even if a minority of men have some kind of prostate orgasm in the machine, that would be enough for prostate orgasms to have been documented scientifically, which would be a huge feat. I imagine the title of the paper could be, ‘Prostate Orgasms: Extremely Pleasurable, but Difficult to Achieve’ - something the community already knew 🙂

In all seriousness though, it’s good these issues are being raised. We should keep brain storming. If/when the wheels are in motion, I will approach Dr Levin again to let him know about the progress.

 


   
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Please will you keep us up to date about any developments?

My contact at HIH/Aneros got back to me and indicated the company is interested in participating in such a study. Obviously they have a vested interest in seeing that their products would be utilized and that the study focus on prostate orgasms generated from use of their products. There are many valid questions which would need to be resolved before any such study could go forward. @Zentai 's questions are all relevant. Study participants would need to be limited to men who can reliably generate prostate orgasms from Aneros use and more importantly, do so while being distracted by the noise, physical limitations and psychological pressure while laying in an fMRI machine. This alone will be a significant challenge for any participant. It may be quite difficult to identify subject participants who could meet such criteria, I know I couldn't qualify. Nonetheless, demonstrating the reality of prostate based orgasms scientifically could go a long way toward eliminating skepticism about the phenomenon and ameliorating the taboos regarding the practice.

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The couple of MRIs I have been subjected to, they were adamant about not moving while being scanned. That, could be a problem!


   
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I'm open to participating - Singapore based.  I think the study should be expanded to focus specifically on non-ejaculatory male orgasms.  Through my years of training I have come to learn that while the Aneros is helping us to orgasm from prostate stimulation, its actually really training us to recognise and facilitate a wholly different type of orgasm that doesn't really have anything to do with the prostate.  At will, on command, and in less than 30 seconds, I can have non ejaculatory orgasms from almost any body part I desire.  Belly button, finger tips, ear canal, roof of mouth, vagus nerve at pelvic area, prostate, testicles, nipples, etc.  These orgasms are generally normal at first, but through repeated stimulation and thus greater aggregate arousal, can develop into super-o's lasting minutes at a time and chaining together into multiple orgasms.  I'm confident I can produce this result under study or within an fMRI.  Anyhow, food for thought!

 


   
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The other problem with MRIs is you have to lay flat, no knees up with bent legs. Even flat, you wouldn't be able to spread your legs. You only have about 6 inch between the top of your body and head to the top of the tube. There's also the weird noises, though headphones could reduce that distraction.


   
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1) I’m not sure how mri would work as usually you have to be still. But I guess the magnets could serve as binaural beat type stuff.

2) Be very difficult even for the advanced with all the medical ppl standing around gawking,poking and prodding.

3) How in the blue fuck is prostate orgasm research going to make homosexuality more acceptable? The two have zero links excepts for all men have a prostate. That one statement make me think they are a bunch of bums. They have the mindset that’s talked about on here about the journey being taboo. Prostate orgasm has nothing to do with gay guys or women’s orgasms,it’s a male gland that can be manipulated with ones own body,no toys,cocks or femininity are required. Why do people always try to link it to one of those two? This is our little slice of heaven,let’s keep it for ourselves boys!


   
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@helghast sorry everyone, I’ve had a really busy week so I haven’t had a chance to respond to these comments.

Okay 1) MRI machines have been used to research orgasms, there’s actually a documentary about super orgasmic women on YouTube where they’re put in an MRI machine. The woman wore a head restraint to keep her head still, but could have her legs spread and out of the machine.

2) yes you’re definitely right, although it looks like we have some men who feel they’re capable of it.

3) I mentioned this in an earlier comment. I think that increased acceptability of homosexuality would be a potential byproduct and definitely not the primary goal. IMO, if increased acceptance of homosexuality is a byproduct of us proving that prostate orgasms are a thing, then that’s only positive. It doesn’t mean that prostate orgasms are for gay men, but it may mean that anal sex between men may have an evolutionary purpose and is therefore not ‘unnatural’ as some strongly conservative people may believe. 

Doctor Levin definitely appears to have the credentials to be part of a study on prostate orgasms, especially within the aneros community. He used terminology from the aneros community to describe prostate orgasms and his case study was an aneros user. I think he’s probably as attuned to the aneros community as you could possibly hope to be quite honest. He’s literally written a paper about prostate orgasms with massive influence from the aneros community. The trouble is, it’s all academic until pgasms are proven to exist. 

 


   
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@rumel that’s excellent news! Do we know to what capacity they would be interested in participating in the study? ie, would it be a go fund me with the company contributing towards the costs?

You’re right that there are several concerns that would need to be addressed, but I don’t think the issues would be insurmountable. We just have to work on mitigating the challenges, finding the best people for the study etc. 

I think once we know how the structure of the study’s funding would appear, we can decide how to move forwards from there.

 


   
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Do we know to what capacity they would be interested in participating in the study? ie, would it be a go fund me with the company contributing towards the costs?

I don't know, I'm not privy to such information. I think (pure speculation on my part) HIH/Aneros would like this study to be done under the auspices of an academic institution perhaps with them providing seed grant funding.

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You’re right that there are several concerns that would need to be addressed, but I don’t think the issues would be insurmountable. We just have to work on mitigating the challenges, finding the best people for the study etc. I think once we know how the structure of the study’s funding would appear, we can decide how to move forwards from there.

Yeah, I agree, a thoughtful protocol would definitely need to be prepared, though I don't know how much 'we' can influence that as I have no familiarity with setting up such studies.

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P.S. I would encourage you to make contact via PM to Aneros Team and give them your contact information regarding Dr. Levin so they can begin discussions.


   
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I’m aware of mri data on orgasm. Since the prostate is in play with the brain during orgasm,I’d  be skeptical initially to see how the mri can show that the orgasm is prostate based,after all,orgasm is orgasm,the prostate isn’t using some funky chemicals different to orgasm that comes with ejaculation.

What do you mean? Prove prostate orgasms exists? Are we saying the thousands of men on the forum over 20 years just said they had one for a laugh? This isn’t the best place to say something like that. 

It would help if Levin actually had prostate orgasms for himself,then he might be attuned. That’s not the case at the moment in my opinion. Writing papers about something’s he’s not experienced, is just theory,based on the writings of other people. For me,its being approached from the wrong direction.

Again,i don’t see why homosexuality is being linked either directly or indirectly. It has zero relevance. Anal sex is not required to have a prostate orgasm,nor is a sex toy. Anyone who doesn’t accept homosexuality isn’t going to accept it just because they see some areas of the brain light up on an mri. And prostate orgasm doesn’t prove an evolutionary purpose for gay guys. Our evolution is tied to human reproduction,orgasm is not be Necessary for reproduction,only ejaculation and ovulation.

 

 

 


   
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@helghast the important implications of this study in my opinion are quite obvious and I think you’re missing the point. 

The machine may or may not may not identify differences in the source of the orgasm in comparison the penis-based orgasms, but that isn’t the most relevant point. The point is that if it becomes scientifically recognised that men can have orgasms from prostate stimulation - a practice that is currently taboo and effectively hidden from most men - it will be a complete sexual revelation for men in general. Men not only having orgasms from a part of their body most don’t even know can give them sexual pleasure, but multiple, full-body orgasms, something that men supposedly could never even achieve in our limited existence we’re allotted on this earth. A study like this has massive, massive implications.

You seem to believe that other men deserve to know about this pleasure and yet you seem to prefer to keep this phenomenon medically undocumented and therefore it will remain a fringe and taboo activity for a long time to come. Men will continue to be unaware of this practice and some of those who do come into contact with prostate stimulation will be put off by the stigma surrounding it as a result. 

No, unfortunately the existence of this forum is not enough to bring this practice out of the shadows and make it medically documented and socially acceptable, unfortunately. Do you think that if a man goes to their doctor or a sex therapist they’ll receive accurate information about prostate orgasms? Of course not. Do you think even 1% of men engage in this form of stimulation? I’d be extremely surprised. It’s currently completely taboo and hidden, regardless of whether there’s a great community here. Male sexual pleasure is completely neglected as a result.

In regards to whether Dr Levin should be able to have prostate orgasms - in that case, no man should ever investigate women’s orgasms scientifically, because he doesn’t have a vagina or a clitoris… 

My personal opinion is that we are extremely lucky to have someone like Dr Levin onboard. You make some relevant points about orgasm an evolution IMO, but what you’re effectively doing is picking at a very small part of what was said and calling them ‘bums’ on the back of that, which I think is quite unreasonable. 

It basically comes down to whether you want this to remain a taboo practice or whether you want all men to know of this pleasure. On top of that, if prostate orgasms end up being researched extensively, we may end up with documented medical advice on how to achieve them. I don’t know how many men must have given up along the way… plenty of men take years to get there. 

I agree, we have to do what we can as a community to make sure that if this study goes ahead, it’s done correctly - that’s our main concern IMO. 

 


   
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@rumel thanks a lot, I’ll get in touch with them and Dr Levin tomorrow (it’s almost midnight here).

In regards to what we can do, I was thinking of maybe encouraging them to have the study in the US if possible and of course putting the best candidates forward from the community if we have a say in that. Perhaps Dr Levin may need to community’s input in other ways, as well.

Thanks again for all of your help!

 


   
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About the mood thing - select people with exhibitionist tendencies.

The homosexuality thing - don't be obtuse. Yes, every man has a prostate but it's a simple fact butt play is much more common among gay men, because of the taboos on male sexuality. Another inconvenient taboo is that gay men are more susceptible to HIV infection, because they don't fear getting pregnant, often don't wear a condom, and men are naturally more risk-taking. Chemsex, poppers, alcohol and are often mentioned in context of homosexual men. Gay men are also more promiscuous than lesbians, who may be clingy (look up "Dyke drama", there's even a book with such title). Don't get offended about real tendencies under the guise of technical correctness.

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I’m aware of mri data on orgasm. Since the prostate is in play with the brain during orgasm,I’d  be skeptical initially to see how the mri can show that the orgasm is prostate based,after all,orgasm is orgasm,the prostate isn’t using some funky chemicals different to orgasm that comes with ejaculation.

I think the point is to identify and prove that Prostate Orgasm produces brain response similar to that of a traditional ejaculatory orgasm.  Thus providing scientific evidence that it is possible for males to have multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms in the same manner as a woman experiences orgasm.  Right now the vast majority of men experience only one type of refractory linked orgasm and may be skeptical that a different type of orgasm is really possible, especially when there is so much talk around this subject which talks about "energy orgasms" and mental orgasms...  It sounds a bit alternative, and hard to verify.  

 

 

What do you mean? Prove prostate orgasms exists? Are we saying the thousands of men on the forum over 20 years just said they had one for a laugh? This isn’t the best place to say something like that. 

 

I think many people are highly skeptical of what is said in this forum because is isn't easy to obtain, doesn't happen to everyone, and all the talk about meditative states and being in the right mindset can easily cause one to dismiss what is said here as people who are interpreting one physical feeling for another, or trying to self validate all their invested time as having produced some result that cannot be repeated by others.

It would help if Levin actually had prostate orgasms for himself,then he might be attuned. That’s not the case at the moment in my opinion. Writing papers about something’s he’s not experienced, is just theory,based on the writings of other people. For me,its being approached from the wrong direction.

Not at all relevant.  The point of the scans is to validate that a very real state of orgasm is being achieved even though no penile stimulation is performed.  Whether Dr. Levin can or cannot is irrelevant.  Must a cancer researcher have cancer to study cancer patients?

 

Again,i don’t see why homosexuality is being linked either directly or indirectly. It has zero relevance. Anal sex is not required to have a prostate orgasm,nor is a sex toy. Anyone who doesn’t accept homosexuality isn’t going to accept it just because they see some areas of the brain light up on an mri. And prostate orgasm doesn’t prove an evolutionary purpose for gay guys. Our evolution is tied to human reproduction,orgasm is not be Necessary for reproduction,only ejaculation and ovulation.

Agree.  This is vastly irrelevant.  Ability to orgasm is not linked to sexual orientation or gender identity.  I would still argue that this study is incorrectly labeled as a prostate orgasm study when instead it should be a non ejaculatory orgasm study since aless orgasms can be triggered by any body part with sufficient nerve endings producing the same outcome as an aneros based orgasm and can achieve a state of super-orgasm as well.  

 

 

 

 


   
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I think the point is to identify and prove that Prostate Orgasm produces brain response similar to that of a traditional ejaculatory orgasm.  Thus providing scientific evidence that it is possible for males to have multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms in the same manner as a woman experiences orgasm.

50k is a lot of money to show orgasm on an mri so they become real because a science guy says they are.  There’s better ways to make thing more mainstream than that. It’s not going to prove that men cum like women,as only women can do that.

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Not at all relevant.  The point of the scans is to validate that a very real state of orgasm is being achieved even though no penile stimulation is performed.  Whether Dr. Levin can or cannot is irrelevant.  Must a cancer researcher have cancer to study cancer patients?

Why isn’t it. If the guy who is claimed to be ‘attuned’ to the community,his own experiences could have started his research immediately without the need for a fund first,think later approach. Cancer patients are what’s irrelevant,along with all the homosexual nonsense. I found the link quite offensive that the study was being claimed to yield some sort of validation for homosexual people. The study is simply looking at a form of masturbation. 

Just all seems a little premature and not thought out correctly to me,but that’s only my opinion. 🙂

 

 

 


   
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Technically correct, but on average it's more accurate to say heterosexual men don't receive anal sex (over 50% doesn't). You can't blame the guy for associating anal sex and prostate orgasms with homosexuality. He has some prejudices, but you're pedantic.

Having an "aless" is very rare and you wouldn't even assemble a sample group for research who can do that. It's much rarer than a coregasm (I can have a coregasm for example when doing pullups or leg raises).


   
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Do you classify coregasms as Super-Os ? Just interested to know if they're like Aless but with more movement. I think I came close a couple of times doing planks but to me they were a different feeling and felt a little more forced, and I don't think I could chain several in a row. Saw some videos showing that a few guys can get multiple ejaculations from hanging leg raises so I know it's doable in certain cases but again, I could not replicate that myself. 

As for Aless being rare, in this thread we have already have 4 guys who can do it, I wonder if those who could "perform" under lab conditions are pretty much all proficient in Aless also, this could make things interesting. Getting even 20% Aless guys in the study could answers a lot of questions about the practice...

My theory is that all roads lead to Rome so nipple Os, coregasms, Aless and prostate Os would be very hard to tell apart, but my fMRI chart experience is about 10 minutes on my favorite search engine. To me, Aless and Aneros Os are identical in feelings, the brain makes up for the "missing" toy, so I'd be extremely interested to see if some distinction can be made on the scans. 

 


   
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I'd settle for an MRI of one guy having prostate orgasm contractions without ejaculation. I mean, surely there is a method of proof for this that doesn't require 30 people to have brain scans. I remember a thread about this from a few years ago... still amazed it's never been done.


   
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Do you classify coregasms as Super-Os ? Just interested to know if they're like Aless but with more movement. I think I came close a couple of times doing planks but to me they were a different feeling and felt a little more forced, and I don't think I could chain several in a row. Saw some videos showing that a few guys can get multiple ejaculations from hanging leg raises so I know it's doable in certain cases but again, I could not replicate that myself. 

Coregasms are like prostate "orgasms" in the sense that there's no cumshot, you slowly jizz your pants (possibly in public with people watching). You get a funny feeling as your body gets closer to exhaustion. An easy exercise to get a coregasm is, while standing, support your body on your elbows and raise your legs (straightened) to about 90 degree. With straight legs it's a harder variant. As I hinted above, exhaustion seems to play a role. There's no set number of repetitions that is needed, rather your body starts oozing cum when you get close to your physical endurance limit. And no, it doesn't feel great, mostly odd, like a ruined orgasm but no prolonged edging.

Women often get a coregasm with the abovementioned exercise. Another popular method is slingshot ride at amusement parks.

It's a family friendly activity and you can easily find coregasm videos on youtube, no need to log in to verify your age.

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A problem with prostate "orgasm" is that there's no ejaculation. We know it feels great (yesterday I was oozing precum like crazy while standing, I also lost control of my bladder). But from neurological point of view how close is the experience to an orgasm? There's no definite release, refractory period, sense of drowsiness, fulfillment etc. It feels quite mystical and look at the number of different descriptions people give. Hell, there's often even no ERECTION, so it's hard to even prove you're sexually aroused.

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@anerospore

i am able to have a/less prostate,anal sphincter and nipple orgasms.

could you please explain how to generate orgasms from the  other areas that you have mentioned in your post.

for example...the belly button [ do i have to stimulate manually ? ]

thanks

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