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Disclaimer: I do not own an Aneros yet.

So this is something that's bothering me a lot. I am in my early twenties and a virgin, and although that bothers me a little bit, it's not the issue. Rather, my problem is the fact that I get affected very negatively by ejaculation. It doesn't seem too uncommon, but I think I am a fairly extreme case. Post-ejaculation I get depressed and anxious for a few hours. My general productivity, libido, self-esteem etc, is decreased and it can take over a week for it to fully recover. This leads me to believe that the most viable way for me to live is to practice semen retention. This is not an issue for me at the moment because I am single, I feel no urge to masturbate to ejaculation at all.

What I want to know how hard it would be to practice full semen retention in a relationship. I fear that I would find it hard to control the urge to ejaculate during sex, which would make me anxious about it happening and therefore not making me enjoy penetrative sex at all. Right now I am feeling envious of women who can't even orgasm at all...

I suppose this is what got me interested in the aneros and this forum. Being able to experience orgasm without feeling awful afterwards almost sounds too good to be true. Luckily, I already had the luck to experience two dry orgasms, which is the ultimate confirmation for me that's it's possible. Though the aneros is a device mostly made for using alone, I did make a thread earlier ( https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/dry-orgasm-during-penetrative-sex ), where some people here confirmed that the ability to have dry orgasm carries over to penetrative/oral sex as well. This gives me a lot of hope, and it's something I am willing to dedicate a lot of time and energy to achieve.

Now there are some more practical issues. I wrote in an earlier thread that the reason why I haven't bought an Aneros yet is for two reasons: I don't feel comfortable having things up my butt, and I live with my parents and I don't want them to find out. Both reasons kind of applies, but I am getting more comfortable with the first issue. I have been experimenting with having a finger inside me and it kind of feels good but uncomfortable at the same time. Also I can only seem to get about 2cm of my finger inside at most, but I'll keep trying.

The question here is, is there any viable method for re-wiring that does not use an aneros? I'm definitely tempted to buy one when I get my own place to live, but that could still take a while. I understand the aneros is probably the simplest and most fun way to re-wire, but using a less efficient method is better than using none. Perhaps trying to stimulate the prostate using my finger instead could work? What do you think?

Sorry for this incoherent rambling, I just needed a place to share my thoughts. Mostly because I accidentally slept in a weird position, causing pressure on my penis which led me to having an ejaculation in my sleep. So as I described earlier, my mind is a bit messed up right now, I will probably regret making this post in a few hours, but ehhh.


   
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What I want to know how hard it would be to practice full semen retention in a relationship.

That is rather difficult for any of us to answer for you, it has much to do with the attitudes/beliefs of you AND your partner. A relationship of the type you seem to be desirous of can be attained with the appropriate partner. This form of practice/relationship is known as Coitus reservatus or Karezza. Your virginal anxiety is totally normal and finding a loving, caring partner to accompany/guide you through your first few experiences will probably allay that anxiety, so don't worry about it and just stay relaxed as you experience all the wonderful sensations associated with sexual play.

I don't feel comfortable having things up my butt, and I live with my parents and I don't want them to find out... but I am getting more comfortable with the first issue. I have been experimenting with having a finger inside me and it kind of feels good but uncomfortable at the same time.

Initial anal penetrations are often uncomfortable due to their unfamiliarity (strangeness factor), again totally normal. As you become more accustomed to these sensations and are able to eroticize those experiences you will learn to desire them more frequently and derive increasing pleasure from them.

The question here is, is there any viable method for re-wiring that does not use an aneros?

YES, I think you would be an excellent candidate for learning Jack Johnston's "Key Sound Multiple Orgasm" protocol (see the KSMO website for details!)

I will probably regret making this post in a few hours, but ehhh.

I certainly hope you don't regret asking for helpful advice. Regrets are generally just a waste of mental energy, so just skip over the regret anxiety and get on with living your life to the fullest. Good Vibes to You !


   
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@throwawayacc, to lift some burden off your shoulder, you should be sure that it will be totally different to experience the afterglow of an ejaculation when hugging with a loving partner while sharing intimacy and caressing each other. What might depress you and make you anxious for hours could be pure loneliness.

You may complain about your sensitivity as stress, but alternatively you could also welcome it as substantial for the empathy you need to sense and answer the feelings of a beloved partner you want to live or only experience sex with.

To access your gland without penetration you can try to touch ever so slightly your perineum. I recommend using some lube, coconut oil should be quite free from suspicion. Maybe your sensitivity is high enough to stimulate your gland this way. Others say you need much more pressure than a slight touch. I think it depends on your sensitivity and suggest to start softly and to stick to it for a while before you may try it tougher.

Good vibes and good luck!


   
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YES, I think you would be an excellent candidate for learning Jack Johnston's "Key Sound Multiple Orgasm" protocol (see the KSMO website for details!)

I've been considering buying it for some time now. The only issue is that it feels a bit awkward making noises like that. I'm a very quiet person and pretty much never make any noise unless I'm talking to someone. I'd have to find a way to get comfortable with this.

to lift some burden off your shoulder, you should be sure that it will be totally different to experience the afterglow of an ejaculation when hugging with a loving partner while sharing intimacy and caressing each other. What might depress you and make you anxious for hours could be pure loneliness.

I hope this is the case, but sadly I think it's a biological thing rather than a psychological one, even though there might a contributing psychological factor. But I won't know for sure until I've experienced it.

To access your gland without penetration you can try to touch ever so slightly your perineum. I recommend using some lube, coconut oil should be quite free from suspicion. Maybe your sensitivity is high enough to stimulate your gland this way. Others say you need much more pressure than a slight touch. I think it depends on your sensitivity and suggest to start softly and to stick to it for a while before you may try it tougher.

Yes! I've done some perineal massage and it's somewhat enjoyable. Putting a fair bit of pressure over a large area gives me some pleasant sensations right away, but it tends to stay that way. Though, once I put pressure on a much smaller area and after a while I am pretty sure I experiences some weak p-waves, so that's cool. Haven't been able to replicate it though.

Thanks for your responses. I was probably overreacting a bit yesterday, ejaculation really screws with my brain. Feeling a lot better today, but still a bit low energy.


   
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@throwawayacc At your age, I didn't even know that Aneros prostate massage existed! But since discovering it about a year ago, I can honestly say that my life has completely changed for the better. I am now practicing SR all the time and have transitioned to male chastity as well (but not full-time). Like you, my ejaculations do feel good at the time, but afterwards generally result in me feeling about the same way as you do. This is a hormone-related phenomenon, I believe. The upside of SR is the incredible feeling which comes with increased testosterone (the so-called "T-buzz"). I am married but that does not preclude me from having sex with my wife on occasion. You don't have to live a life of celibacy while in SR mode. At your age, when you meet the right person, you will feel it and your sexuality will blossom! And at that point, you may find that your SR days become a more distant memory! You may discover, in my opinion, that use of an Aneros now will help you along the way of sexual fulfillment. Good luck on your journey!


   
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@throwawayacc At your age, I didn't even know that Aneros prostate massage existed! But since discovering it about a year ago, I can honestly say that my life has completely changed for the better. I am now practicing SR all the time and have transitioned to male chastity as well (but not full-time). Like you, my ejaculations do feel good at the time, but afterwards generally result in me feeling about the same way as you do. This is a hormone-related phenomenon, I believe. The upside of SR is the incredible feeling which comes with increased testosterone (the so-called "T-buzz"). I am married but that does not preclude me from having sex with my wife on occasion. You don't have to live a life of celibacy while in SR mode. At your age, when you meet the right person, you will feel it and your sexuality will blossom! And at that point, you may find that your SR days become a more distant memory! You may discover, in my opinion, that use of an Aneros now will help you along the way of sexual fulfillment. Good luck on your journey!

Thanks for your kind words! Yes, I hope I will find the right person one day! Out of curiosity, do you abstain from ejaculating when you have sex with your wife? If so, do you ever feel any frustration about it? Also do you ever achieve dry orgasms during sex?

So anyway, I tried using coconut oil on my middle finger and putting it up my ass. This time it was much less uncomfortable, and I almost got the whole finger in there. I tried to find my prostate, but honestly I don't really know what I am looking for. Every now and then I did feel some kind of "exciting" sensation build up inside me, but then it immediately died down.

The biggest issue with this is that I can't quite reach myself down there without tensing my arm and hand, making it very uncomfortable and hard to relax after a short period of time. Any idea if there's some discreet everyday object that I can use together with coconut oil instead of my finger so I can be more relaxed?


   
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@throwawayacc, let's see what would be Amazon's choice. Evil to him who evil thinks, but are they up to mischief?
Ah, no, they didn't stop to sell the other one, dunno which one is more discreet?

Whatever a discreet everyday object you may chose, take care for breakable parts or anything else that might harm you!

Though I don't find them a good idea, some people suggest tennis balls to give some more pressure to your perineum.

Btw, back in teenage years, nosy as I was, I found mother's vibrator in her bedside cabinet and father's porn in his one. Perhaps you may already live in an Aneros household and there is more understanding for your desires as you ever could have imagined?

Good luck and best vibes to you!
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The biggest issue with this is that I can't quite reach myself down there without tensing my arm and hand, making it very uncomfortable and hard to relax after a short period of time. Any idea if there's some discreet everyday object that I can use together with coconut oil instead of my finger so I can be more relaxed?

A trip to your local hardware store for a double prong coat hook could even land you a very kinky item!


   
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Someone on this site suggested:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0036LQOQE/


   
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@throwawayacc I sent you a PM addressing your questions.


   
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Does anyone here think the original poster might have low Testosterone. I am pushing seven decades and I know I have low T. The symptoms he describes are much like mine in low libido, absense of horniness, and days of recovery after sex/ejaculation.

Just thinking out loud trying to help the young fellow.


   
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You know I am finding something similar and it's almost got to the point where I don't want ejaculate because I feel so drained and grumpy afterwards for a day or two. Might be a product of age or being reminded of ones loneliness as someone before me has said. Or something that happens as part of the re-wiring process


   
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Does anyone here think the original poster might have low Testosterone. I am pushing seven decades and I know I have low T. The symptoms he describes are much like mine in low libido, absense of horniness, and days of recovery after sex/ejaculation.

Just thinking out loud trying to help the young fellow.

I had low T for quite some time without me knowing it, and I also had those symptoms.
My testosterone and Vitamin-D level were at a dangerously low level, and I found that out from blood test.
I would recommend the original poster to do a quick blood test, starting with "Testosterone" and "25OHD".
If blood test does confirm low T, then start with natural methods and natural food to improve it.


   
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I feel I have low testosterone now, been low for
a long while now. What natural elements
or tablets can help this? Vitamin d? Would rather look at this route before looking at injections etc


   
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I feel I have low testosterone now, been low for
a long while now. What natural elements
or tablets can help this? Vitamin d? Would rather look at this route before looking at injections etc

@The_Fury I would recommend getting a testosterone blood test first to make sure it is really low. It's a relative cheap blood test item. If the data is indeed low, seeking help from a physician would be the right way to go. There are also lots of information on the web about natural food that can boost testosterone.


   
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I feel I have low testosterone now, been low for
a long while now. What natural elements
or tablets can help this? Vitamin d? Would rather look at this route before looking at injections etc

Sports, sports and sports!

Arnold Schwarzenegger compared the feelings coming with his workout with full body orgasms.

And of course vitamin D, but not from pills, instead build up by your body exposed to enough sunlight!

Good vibes, Fury! Yeehaw!


   
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Does anyone here think the original poster might have low Testosterone. I am pushing seven decades and I know I have low T. The symptoms he describes are much like mine in low libido, absense of horniness, and days of recovery after sex/ejaculation.

This is a good idea. It can very much be the case that ejaculation drops my T levels too low, causing these issues. I'll look into getting a blood test done.

You know I am finding something similar and it's almost got to the point where I don't want ejaculate because I feel so drained and grumpy afterwards for a day or two. Might be a product of age or being reminded of ones loneliness as someone before me has said. Or something that happens as part of the re-wiring process

Definitely not a product of age in my case, I am only in my early twenties. I don't think it is because I'm reminded of my loneliness either, even though I am very lonely. It actually seems to be the other way around, when I have a few days of semen retention, I start to really suffer from my loneliness. I feel more extroverted and a much bigger need to socialize. After ejaculation, I am more content with being alone and don't really feel the need to seek out social interaction.

If blood test does confirm low T, then start with natural methods and natural food to improve it.

I believe myself to be in a good shape physically. I eat healthy and try to get some exercise and time outside every day. I haven't been sick in many years.
Not really sure what else I could be doing to increase my T levels.

And of course vitamin D, but not from pills, instead build up by your body exposed to enough sunlight!

Good advice, but I live in the north of Europe so it's hard to get enough sunlight during a large portion of the year. I eat fatty fish fairly frequently though, so that probably helps a bit.

I appreciate your replies.


   
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Now that my mind is a bit clearer, I think I've had a little bit of an incorrect view of the aneros. To me at first it did seem a bit like a magical device capable of generating extreme amounts of pleasure. The same applies to KSMO, where pronouncing a magical sound causes lots of pleasant sensations. But honestly, that doesn't make much sense to me, Seems to me they are just tools to help along the journey and make it more interesting. Perhaps I will buy an aneros in the future, but I don't think I actually need one to rewire.

Looking back at my (short) journey so far, I've had the most success when I didn't really care about the physical part of sexual pleasure rather than the mental one. Lately I've had the mindset of bothering to much about things like "Am I touching my prostate? Will holding a contraction in X muscle help? Am I applying the correct amount of pressure to X" etc. Yet early in my journey I had the luck of experiencing 2 unique dry orgasms by just applying very slight pressure on (in this case) the shaft of the penis and the anus. I didn't bother about finding the right technique, I just relaxed. I need to get back to this mindset.

I also had an amazing experience yesterday morning. I woke up feeling extremely aroused in a way I don't think I have before. Touching myself anywhere on the body felt great and by only focusing my attention to a specific part of my body I could generate pleasant feelings in that part of the body. Focusing on the penis almost made me feel like ejaculating. Being in this aroused state was amazing, and I wish to experience it more. But once again, this happened without me trying to make it happen.

I have decided to have an "Aless" session every day. Instead of bothering about a specific technique, I will just lie down in my bed and observe every pleasant feeling that occurs. An alarm will be set to limit these sessions to 20-30 minutes. After every session I will write down what happened, like a diary. Perhaps in the future I will have something interesting to share!


   
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@throwawayacc, sounds great, as if re-wiring already happened to a substantial degree. Congrats!

Focusing on my gland and on my microcosmic orbit as well as visualizing to stroke my gland are reliable triggers helping me to start pleasurable Aless sessions.

Best vibes!


   
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