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Do you guys think ejaculation is healthy? I know modern science says regular ejaculation prevents prostate cancer, but I am also noticing ejaculation is starting to take toll on my mood.

After I ejaculate I feel low energy and less motivated to do things. It usually take a whole day just to get my energy levels back up to normal.


   
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I feel the same way most of the time. After a good prostate orgasm I feel energized, ejaculation feels draining.


   
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@Orgasmic19 The "21-Day Challenge" is a starting point for increased arousal. It will be difficult for a lot of guys to achieve at first try (I made it to Day 26 after about 4 attempts). But it is not meant to be a male sexual "show-stopper" for ejaculations and our male libido! I practice semen retention (SR) all the time now and my average time between ejaculations is 7-10 days. I will get "blue-balls" if I try to go much beyond 10 days now. Semen retention (and male chastity) for me is the new normal; the reason I continue to do it is the way I feel! I am always full of energy, especially sexual energy. There are other benefits too as you will discover. Ejaculation is not the goal, rather prostate orgasms (from Aneros use) will let you experience a more "energized" feeling as @The_Bishop noted.

There is a complex relationship among the male sex hormones that explains why you feel so "drained" after an ejaculation. This is known as the Male Refractory Period (MRP) and all guys will experience it in varying degrees. It may take up to 2 weeks (17 days!) after an ejaculation for the hormone levels to re-stabilize! By limiting ejaculations, your free testosterone will spike-up around Day 7 of abstinence and you will feel it. The scientifically-based chart below now is widely circulated and graphically depicts this relationship.

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Of course, I'm not suggesting that all guys practice SR. But depending on your lifestyle and personal situation, you may find that it meshes well with yours. You will like the way you feel. That is why I continue the practice. (BTW, I think the jury is still out on the relationship between abstinence and incidence of prostate anomalies).

I have noticed that regular ejaculations for me within SR do not seem as "draining" as without. And with a "ruined orgasm" I can have an ejaculation (albeit weak), "clear the pipes" and still retain my sexual stamina!

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PS Practicing SR doesn't mean that you have no sex life! It just means that you have to be a little more "creative" with your arousal and try to have more self-control. It can be done! Think Tantric Sex! Think Refractory Period! It always doesn't have to end with an ejaculation! My wife is understanding of this and we have great "sessions". She knows how to take me right to the edge, near the PONR (and keep me there, crying and moaning, wet with precum) and then we stop! Update: After this "sex session", I had an amazing session with the SGX this morning, about 45 minutes long. Auto-f, P-waves, dry-Os but no ejaculation! I feel very satisfied (but horny) and am still in SR!


   
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@goldenboy you are a fountain of knowledge and info!!! I was thinking of the 7-day thing as I read this thread and low and behold, you got the 7-day retention mentioned here. I want to add a link to this, it's a Chinese study that did a lot of tests on regular men to see when and if testosterone spikes dependent upon how long after a man releases semen. On Day 7 of abstinence the men showed a remarkable peak in T. So, after I read this I had to try to abstain for 7 days on purpose (although my schedule made me be out of town between 3 and up to 11 days with no chance to even get a hard on, so I probably had observed what retention across differing numbers of days was doing to me). On Day 7, I was with my wife and I cannot tell you how extremely hard my erection was. It never went down the slightest during any of our foreplay or coitus. Upon orgasm I pulled out an launched, for me, an ungodly amount of cum all over the place, it shot out quite violently. I tried it again, not right away, but when given the chance, and again on Day 7 it was the same. Five day wait wasn't the same, even 6 days wasn't. And anything after 7 is very very good but not as powerful as 7.

What I also noticed (and most relevant to the OP's post) is that on that day I was extremely bright-feeling. Like the world looked really clear. My movements just walking down the sidewalk were deliberate and everything felt "well executed." I could recall facts more easily. I just felt over all really good. And I felt like that after the 7th day too. When I had to abstain and wait to get hard and cum for up to 11 days, those days after Day 7 were really good days. When I went to sleep I felt good about it and knew I'd rest well. When I got up I had rested well and felt energized and ready to go. Unlike this morning, whereas last night I had a massive prostate session and finished with a really big Super-T, and I could hardly get up out of bed. I currently feel like I got beat up by hammers or something and the evil "no-sleep" fairy fucked me over last night or something. But I came soooooo good though! It's a toss up I guess: we're either cumming as much as possible and feeling that pleasure, and as a result feeling a bit more tired and blah, or we're not cumming at all and living our lives with more pep in our step, drive and motivation.

I personally think the 7-day testosterone peak is somehow related to a female's natural menstrual cycle, which is 28 days long (you know, 4 x 7=28...). I'm sure there's an evolutionary relationship to this T peak and when women are ovulating, but not sure anyone's putting this stuff together.


   
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@Orgasmic19, perhaps this might help you finding your way ...

[From Mantak_Chia_The_Multi-Orgasmic_Man]

FINDING THE WAY

Preventing Overheating

According to the Tao, erection energy is wood (or liver) energy. So when you don‘t ejaculate and you
pull up the orgasmic energy, you will increase this energy in your liver.

If this increasing energy is not transformed into love and kindness, it will transform into anger and hatred.

So when you have a lot of energy, practice being especially kind and loving to your partner or, if you do not have a partner, to other people in your life.

Other techniques for preventing yourself from overheating include drinking a lot of water and even swallowing your own saliva, which has a cooling effect on the body. Your emotional state can also affect the energy in your body.

If you feel calm and loving, the body can much more easily absorb the energy.
If you feel anger or disdain for yourself or your partner, you run a greater risk of overheating.

If you are overheating or feel you have more energy than you can absorb, you should probably ejaculate. If the problem persists, try practicing the Inner Smile or the Six Healing Sounds described in Taoist Ways to Transform Stress into l/itality, or contact a Healing Tao Instructor.

The Taoist ideal is to ejaculate as infrequently as you can, but every man can and should refrain from ejaculating for a period of time suited to him. In the words of Su NU, "One must measure one's own strength and ejaculate accordingly. Anything else is simply force and foolishness." Your strength depends on your age, your health, your state of mind, and your willpower.

Sun Ssu-miao, one of the leading physicians of ancient China recommended that men attain good health and longevity by ejaculating twice a month, as long as they ate healthily and exercised. He also offered the following more specific guidelines.

A man at twenty can ejaculate once every fourdays.
A man at thirty can ejaculate once every eightdays.
A man at forty can ejaculate once every ten days.
A man at fifty can ejaculate once every twentydays.
A man at sixty should no longer ejaculate.

Best vibes!


   
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Interesting to read this as I have just had similar feeling myself. I went without an ejaculation for two weeks, it wasn’t a deliberate attempt at retention, just that I had begun to experience some great results with my Helix, eventually had a few intense orgasms and morning after Aless pleasure. During that time I just felt so incredibly charged and gratified that I had no real interest in cumming. I also felt as if I was in a much better mood, and felt more cheerful. However, after two weeks I was more than ready to have a release. It has taken me four or five days to become “interested” again since, but stirrings have increased and I can feel myself becoming more and more in need of a session. In fact I indulged last night. I was wondering whether it was partly an age thing as I have just turned sixty. Prior to discovering the delights of the Aneros, my personal “ me time” had probably taken on a weekly cycle.


   
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Do you guys think ejaculation is healthy? I know modern science says regular ejaculation prevents prostate cancer, but I am also noticing ejaculation is starting to take toll on my mood.

Yes, periodic ejaculations are healthy, this event is absolutely necessary to perpetuate the human species, it is a biological imperative! With that being said it becomes a question of what is an optimum frequency for ejaculations to occur. Please read the thread optimum ejaculation frequency? for some insight on this topic.

I'm sorry to inform you that regular ejaculations DO NOT PREVENT PROSTATE CANCER, however, studies have shown that men who have regular ejaculations through their 20's and 30's do have REDUCED rates of prostate cancer later in their lives.

After I ejaculate I feel low energy and less motivated to do things. It usually take a whole day just to get my energy levels back up to normal.

This is a normal effect of the male refractory period. It is caused by hormonal changes in the body triggered by the ejaculation, primarily the release of prolactin and oxytocin and perhaps serotonin as well (see Why You Fall Asleep within Minutes of Having Sex). Additionally you experience a sudden drop in testosterone and prolactin's neutralizing effect on your dopamine. These refractory effects may become more pronounced with age with longer recovery times needed to reach your normal homeostatic hormonal levels. If you wish to avoid this refractory effect you will need to forego your ejaculations but that doesn't mean you need to forego orgasms! Learning to separate the two events is a whole other topic.
Good Vibes to You !


   
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