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I own the Evi. I have had good experiences with it. I will say this however as a disclaimer, as I know you are married @mack it would benefit you greatly if you knew if your wife is indeed more of a vibration person or not. If she is into vibratory toys that is fine she just needs to be open to toys that dont vibrate and are not used in a thrusting manner. I find it is great for strengthening the pelvic floor (although steel kegel balls, or the gyneflex works even better for me, also neither of the two i mentioned previous provide any pleasurable stimulation for me they are designed really for a work out., but Evi is great to start off with as it has the added pleasure factor), also while providing gspot stimulation as well. When I first started the gspot stimulation was very faint...now that I'm stronger it is more pronounced. I do feel the Evi needs more companions (other female specific models) however to reach a wider market. For instance for me I'd love for the what I call "clit arm" to be a tad longer as it doesnt reach my clit at all. That can be a good thing however. Before Evi I was very clit oriented and needed to focus more on other types of orgasms instead of the quickie rub one off orgasm. Same way guys are so used to penile ejaculatory orgasms I guess you could say. There are other revisions I could go on about but there are more important things at hand lol

The most important thing I would say about Evi and this is not in the instructions is, if you do indeed purchase one know that you wife needs to be FULLY aroused and relaxed. It is no different than prostate massagers. If a man does not take his time, get himself aroused and relax he will have bad results even pain possibly...same with Evi. I'm not sure what your thinking as far as her using it solo or with you (it works great both solo and partnered for me), that would be something to think about even discuss with her. I'm not sure of your ages but please take into consideration if she is post menopausal that her vagina is much more fragile than when she was in her "child bearing" (for lack of better terms at the moment) years. Also she may not get as wet...so be gentle, take it slow, make sure there is plenty of lube. Make sure her mindset is one that she is willing to get to know this toy...its not at all like a vibrator dildo or dong...she has to put in some time with it, just like the prostate massagers.

You will read lots of women complaining here of the size of the Evi...I dont subscribe to that. If you want a picture for reference I'm more than willing to provide you one so you can see exactly how small it really is. Honestly I've never met a man who's penis is as small as the Evi...thus when women are taking penises that are larger than Evi but complaining of how "big" it is...that lets me know more than likely the mindset and prep were not where they needed to be. Yes I understand every woman is made differently, and it will fit differently in every woman...but its not big. Also take into account that the more a woman relaxes the more her vaginal walls tend to stretch. Take a moment to think of how when you begin sex lots of times the vaginal feels a certain snugness...then as you proceed it feels a tad looser. I can attest to feeling pleasure when a man is inside me and if I pay attention I can pinpoint exactly when my muscles completely relax, I'm talking deeper into the vagina...not just the voluntary PC muscles. So what I'm getting at is...you may need to take the time to help dilate her opening (i'm not talking fisting here lol)with your fingers or a toy whatever her preference is, a bit then proceed to insert the Evi. This process may take a while...dont watch the clock, if you will be helping her (I suggest this as many women will rush especially if this thing is not her idea and will complain that it doesnt work....but if you are there to make the experience that much more special she will more than likely be focusing more on you and the pleasure and not all the other crap of the day) just enjoy the moment and encourage her to do the same if need be.

Hope that helps, if there is anything I left out or any other questions shoot them too me i'm an open book.

Thanks for the imput Deva,I must agree with you on all of your points. I believe if you are a man or women we must relax and get our bodies in tune for the moment to be able to get the full effect of anything.This is why I was interested in the evi because of the relaxation because she needs that in her life and at this time in our life we can plan our sessions together lol big grin here.

@mack yes joint sessions are great. You both can draw from each others energy, eroticism, love, etc I think it kind of creates a feedback loop between the two people, I think you feel each other on a deeper level as well. Evi will definitely help with relaxation, I used to be a lot more wired up mentally...it was hard to get my brain to stop thinking, and sometimes even harder to get my body to stop and just relax. Its much better now, to me evi symbolizes relaxation. My mind goes into ok its time to relax otherwise this wont work...and I have incentive for it to work its magic.

@devajones, your long summary above is brilliant. Thank you.

@devajones I am curious about the outcome of evi sessions. Are you having a hands free O? Do you get involuntary contractions?

@JMchemist Yes I do have handsfree orgasms with evi. I never use my hands when using evi, nor do I manipulate the toy with my hands. The beauty of evi I find is that it is great at staying in when you contract so many other devices tend to fly out upon contraction lol. So no hands needed to keep it in or in place for me or to make it do what it does. It is designed to move when you contract the same way the prostate massagers do, it does that for me. I do notice when I contract it is drawn in more as well as pitching forward onto my gspot. At the beginning of the session gspot sensations are not that deep, after a little while and my gspot is swollen a bit more the sensations are deeper. They tend to build more and more leading to orgasm. As far as involuntary contractions its a bit different than what guys experience. The vagina is not a digestive tract of course, the rectum is, those involuntaries occur because thats what the digestive tract is supposed to do as far as function...try to move things through the body, now when you introduce Aneros it doesnt know that its a piece of plastic, and the design makes it so that instead of being pushed out it moves inside of you. The vagina however has contractions during orgasm and for a bit after that as well to in efforts to draw in semen in efforts of conception. So I only get involuntary contractions during orgasm, which can be a good thing because those contractions are the same as the voluntary ones its just I dont control them consciously. Usually it causes the evi to move in a way that either causes the orgasm to be lengthened as far as duration, and possibly even trigger another orgasm. So basically I voluntarily contract my muscles causing evi to engage my gspot, rinse repeat until I orgasm, then my body takes over its on auto pilot at that point doing the same thing at its own pace. As long as I relax and dont interrupt things it can go on for a while especially if those contractions cause subsequent orgasms, its stoppable (so for those reading DONT PANIC lol) if I just snap out of it. If I am using it in conjunction with peridise or Tempo then those vaginal involuntaries can trigger anal ones and usually do but not always.

@isvara thanks for the compliment.

@devajones, the real time information you give just gets better. I really hope other forum members take the time to take in the revealed female processes and experience. My appreciation is genuine.

@devajones did you have a Rewiring period?

@isvara i truly appreciate your kind words. I know there are some here who appreciate viewing the other side of the coin.

@JMchemist I think for anal endeavors I had more of a rewiring period. As far as gspot vs clit (the reason i compare those two is because the clit is a penis basically just as the gspot is the prostate basically...this will make more sense in a minute), I did not have a rewiring period for that. I think the reason lots of men have a rewiring period is because their prostate has been dormant for so long, they usually focus so much on penis penis penis that its really all they know. The term rewiring here to me is like the body (nerve endings) really making a clear distinction between the penis and prostate and the pleasures they both give. There was a period long ago when my gspot did awaken after it was stimulated. I think if you are dealing with a woman who has not had gspot stimulation (there are loads of women who havent), or may have had a little gspot stimulation but had no clue what it was and stopped due to the oh god i'm going to pee feeling they will have a rewiring period if they begin using evi. By the time I started using aneros I was very clear on what clit stimulation and clitoral orgasms were as well as gspot stimulation and gspot orgasms. I truly think lots of women are not orgasming fully, meaning they havent had a gspot orgasm (lots of the women I talk to havent), for those women yes they will have a rewiring period. How long will it be I think it depends on the woman, just like the rewiring time frame varies from man to man.

@devajones
Thank you so much for sharing!

And with that finally comes the confirmation that Evi can work for woman as intended, i.e. mostly the same way as helixes work for rewired men. We've been holding our breaths for quite some time.

Now, about the involuntaries, I would consider two things: first, some men have involuntaries only when the orgasm reaches some high point (this is what you and most people call orgasming but I only consider a part of it) and second, orgasm experiences are meant to vary, and you might some day get the earlier involuntaries you don't have now and thought impossible.

It is in fact exactly how it happened to me.

The anal canal indeed works in a specific way and has its very distinctive set of involuntaries. But men as well as women have many other muscles in the pelvic floor and genital area. And the typical involuntaries for most male anerosians is not anal but more usually base of penis centered (probably PC muscle I guess). I have had both involuntaries and they are absolutly nothing alike (well, also had even other involuntaries, they are not limited to these two). So I suspect what you have is what we have. And just like it is possible for you to keep these involuntaries going after a first orgasmic release and like it is possible for us to have these from very begining of sessions and even without aneros inserted (typical chairgasm), I am sure that your body and the design of the Evi should still permit you to have these involuntaries much earlier on... And sure that, with time, you'll get them.

It sounds to me like you might be doing some sort of what the wiki calls "kegel aerobics", maybe you should try the all so different "do nothing" method.

Keep up experimenting Deva... Science demands your pleasure!

I can also confirm girls can miniO from still vaginal penetration by passive partner. And partners can share their miniOs. First hand very recent experience (well she was the girl not me, so lets say second hand).

Another reason to believe orgasms with Evi and "do nothing" method might work.

@Canacan I did the do nothing method at first...and it did nothing for me. I still do that from time to time to test it. Nothing thus far, I'll let you know if that changes.

@devajones - Go get em girl! Nice to hear from a woman's side of things. It helps to keep the balance, not to mention the education that answers a man's "I wonder how it really works down there..." questions.

Thanks for sharing,
Brian