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Celecoxib200
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(Apologies in advance for a bit of a lengthy post)
Hi community, I’m young guy and completely new to prostate stimulation who recently (less than a week ago) started using a prostate stimulator (the lelo loki wave) in the hopes of eventually having a prostate orgasm, and am so far enjoying it.

Based on previous testimony that I’ve read I’m under the impression (correct me if I’m wrong) that it can take some time to feel sensation from ones prostate, let alone experience prostate orgasms, but fortunately I think I’m something of a fast learner. Almost immediately upon insertion I could quite easily identify both where my prostate was and when I was stimulating it due to a feeling of needing to pee. Additionally without anything inserted I can feel a distinct but mild “fluttery-pulsing” resonating from my prostate, even after an ejaculatory orgasm, is this progress normal within such a short period of time? I have read a number of posts from frustrated users whom have stagnated on their journey towards the super-o and am slightly worried that this the point at which stagnation may occur, as while I can find, feel and stimulate my prostate easily enough the only time I seem to get pleasurable stimulus from it is when I am simultaniously my penis, and I know that one can’t generally achieve dry orgasms when penis stimulation is included.

I know its not an aneros device (I hope I can still post here with that in mind) but the sensations and hurdles I might face along the way should be at least similar right?
I’m mostly looking for advice on how best to encourage pleasurable sensation from my prostate, without penis stimulation, I feel like if I could manage that I could definately achieve a prostate orgasm some time in the near future.
I seem to feel a lot of “p-waves” if that helps, even ages after stopping stimulation of my prostate, (or at least I think they’re p waves based on their description) but if I focus too intensely on them they seem to begin to receed a little, would anyone have any advice?


   
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 JM
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Im 22 and i also use a lelo device (lelo loki) as well as an aneros progasm. Your defiantly hitting the spot, just when you go to use, dont expect to have the best session of ur life, just enjoy what is their and it will improve itself


   
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The only thing slows us down are our heads,it took me 6 weeks to feel a p-wave..
and over a year to attain super-o.
If your chilled out,with your head in the right place then great! Go for it,your lucky,enjoy it and learn. Just try not to chase orgasm,like you said if you focus too much,the pleasure recedes,just relax and let the pleasure build,the orgasms will come without needing to be forced,enjoy and be grateful for the pleasure you feel in sessions.Dont see a session without orgasm as a failure.Best quote ever on here is that the Super-O finds you,you don’t find it. Now I’ll admit,and some others have,that the journey can go upward in stages,just don’t rush,you will get there eventually. The rushing and desperation for orgasms is why so many of are/were frustrated. Just read and learn all you can here,and have fun with the new discoveries your sessions bring. And ask any questions you have,there are lots of helpful members on here full of knowledge and advice. Good luck on your journey.


   
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Almost immediately upon insertion I could quite easily identify both where my prostate was and when I was stimulating it due to a feeling of needing to pee.

+++ CORRECTING UPDATE! +++

Hello Azrael, sorry, I have been truly convinced to give you good advice with my first version of this post, but sustaining an objection by one of our most accepted authorities here, I have to qualify my earlier statement.

First I had been absolutely convinced, you must have been grievously mistaken by a misinterpretation, because I felt sure, prostate stimulaton couldn't give you a feeling of needing to pee, having myself never have made such an experience. As stimulating your bladder can stimulate your prostate too, I saw herein the reason for your experience. As you know from your morning wood a full bladder can induce enormous arousal. But why is it so? Because your enlarged bladder stirrs your prostate giving you that awesome hard boner sometimes even making you unable to pee.

My interpretation of your experiences had therefore been, that you have stimulated your bladder instead of your prostate, and that you have got some p-waves as a side-effect of the impact of your bladder on your prostate.

Have a look at this picture and you will understand.

But @rumel instead corrected me that there are a lot of reports of exactly your experiences, obviously much more common than I ever would have thought.

Sorry for any inconveniences caused by my overeagerness to share my first thoughts.

Nevertheless I would stick to my suggestion, that for appropiate stimulation and best results it would be a very good idea to ask a doctor like these tough guys did.

The Try Guys Get Prostate Exams - YouTube

Although this video deals with prostate cancer, it shows that a doctor is the best informed respondent to show you where exactly your prostate is to find.

I seem to feel a lot of “p-waves” if that helps, even ages after stopping stimulation of my prostate, (or at least I think they’'re p waves based on their description) but if I focus too intensely on them they seem to begin to receed a little, would anyone have any advice?

That might be what we name Aless (A-less = Aneros-less = without Aneros). As sexuality first of all is a mind thing, your prostate can give you a lot of pleasureful waves even without any physical stimulation. The best to feed them is not to focus on the wave itself, instead to let the wave take you with it, like a surfer who isn't looking at his wave but focusing on how to keep the balance on the board to not fall off.

Good vibes to you, good luck for your journey, welcome to the forum and keep us posted.

Btw, owning an Aneros tool is not necessary to take part in this wonderful community, but it may happen to you as a side-effect, remember, everything else is just a toy. 😉


   
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@Azrael, please take notice of my correcting update of my earlier post. Thanks! Mart


   
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I had the “need to pee” sensation in my very early sessions when my massage made contact with my prostate. This would be accompanied by oozing of sticky, clear liquid.

After a few sessions, this no longer happened. This was a source of frustration and, I think, slowed my progress. I was so focused on looking for that sensation and trying to make it return that I failed to notice something different was happening.

Instead of the “need to pee”, I now don’t feel anything in my pelvic area when the massager contacts my prostate. Instead, I feel small ripples of pleasure - at first so subtle they were barely noticeable - that begin in my anal canal and spread down my legs and creep slowly up my spine. It took me a while to work out that these caused an almost involuntary clench of my pelvic floor. Now, the sensation will only spread further and grow if I breathe through the urge to clench and keep a gentle focus on keeping everything relaxed.

Unlike many others, I seem to get more pleasure if I maintain slackness down there - it feels as if i’m giving my prostate space to move - if that makes sense.


   
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I’m mostly looking for advice on how best to encourage pleasurable sensation from my prostate, without penis stimulation, I feel like if I could manage that I could definately achieve a prostate orgasm some time in the near future.
I seem to feel a lot of “p-waves” if that helps, even ages after stopping stimulation of my prostate, (or at least I think they’re p waves based on their description) but if I focus too intensely on them they seem to begin to receed a little, would anyone have any advice?

My best advice is to make every session special and just going through the motions. I plan my sessions usually a few days out so it gives me time to think about it and be mentally prepared. Going into a session "a bit on edge" works well for me. Expect nothing but to relax and go with the flow wherever it takes you. We are so used to traditional ejaculatory orgasms that we may be looking for those sensations and missing out on what might already be there.... you just don't feel it.
It took me years to finally have what I am calling a super O at this point. Maybe a year from now I'll look back and think ... that wasn't a super O at all..... who the fuck knows?


   
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UPDATE
Thank you to everyone for the advice
Up to this point I had been using the device with its vibration function, but once turned off and forced to rely soley on its “stroking” motion I could barely feel a thing, is this a bad sign? Will I become more receptive over time?

Additionally how long would you recommend that sessions last?
All of my sessions up to this point have lasted around 30 minutes, after which I either become to tempted and the session ends with a “super T” (not neccessarily a bad thing I guess, but I’m increasingly eager for a prostate orgasm) or I begin to feel uncomfortable.
And when I do feel P waves the don’t seem to come from anywhere specific and are often really mild, and when I do feel them I’m not entirely sure on what to do with them, should I just continue despite the mild uncorfortable feelings?
Am I using too much pressure?

Thanks again for all the responses


   
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Up to this point I had been using the device with its vibration function, but once turned off and forced to rely soley on its “stroking” motion I could barely feel a thing, is this a bad sign? Will I become more receptive over time?

I don't think it is a good or bad sign, I think it is just an indication of your expected level of sensation. Vibrating massagers may provide too much sensation and/or cause some numbing effect. Learning to tune into the subtle sensations generated during gentle prostate massage can take time and does require you to make paradigm shift in thinking about what constitutes orgasm. I am fairly confident you will become more receptive over time if you allow your mind to be more open to the subtle sensations your body does generate, although I am not convinced your use of the Loki 'Wave' will necessarily facilitate the needed learning.

Additionally how long would you recommend that sessions last?

Your sessions need not have any particular time frame, they can last as long as you are still generating pleasure waves but forcing yourself to push for longer sessions is probably pointless. You may wish to view the user Polls How long is just right to ride your Aneros? and How frequently do you use your massager? for some of your fellow users opinions.

... should I just continue despite the mild uncorfortable feelings? Am I using too much pressure?

Your ego consciousness (will) can be both a hindrance and an ally. It is your ally when you discipline yourself to avoid going for the Super-T but it can hinder you in trying to exert illusory control over your body's natural tendencies. Having your ego trying to 'push through' or past the discomfort rarely works and will usually only lead to frustration. Only you can determine if you are using too much pressure but if what you are doing is causing discomfort then you should stop and evaluate the cause.
If your muscles are getting sore from too much exertion or fatigue then you will need to give them time to rest and recover. If the soreness is due to irritation then perhaps your lubrication is inadequate or you may be having a mild allergic reaction to it, adding lube or changing the lubrication may solve it. If the discomfort is being generated by cognitive dissonance then you will need to mentally work through those issues to resolve the conflicts.
Good Vibes to You !


   
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For me, when having a prostate massage session, with or without Aneros, I have to mentally tell myself each time, to not expect a traditional orgasm. This may sound crazy, but the desire to ejaculate can ride on your prostate pleasure, but it ends up ship-wrecking it, if you catch my meaning. After you initially feel those pleasurable vibes, to keep them going and and even to climax with a dry or prostate orgasm, you need to rewire your brain that you're only going to expect a dry orgasm, not a traditional one. Sometimes the rogue urges can be quite sneaky and really get you off track. As they say, if you try to catch two hares you'll get neither. Sorry if not clear. If you'd like to PM me to ask further please feel free.


   
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Hi everyone! It’s nice to have help with these products! So I tried a training set of butt plugs. The smallest two fell out. I think there wasn’t enough of a difference in size along the butt plug. Anyway, because it was no big deal I went ahead and tried the Helix Syn. That also went right in with some lube. It’s been sitting there for thirty minutes. I really don’t feel much. I’ve tried flexing my sphincter muscle. I’ve also done some kegel exercises. Is it possible the Helix Syn is just too small? The fact that it went in with no resistance at all plus little to no feeling in my anus is why I’m asking this question? Thank you!


   
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