Are kegels exactly the same as Taoist deer exercises?

Entirely different:

Kegels are for muscle bulking and delineation to improve the strength of the pelvic floor and our ability to differentiate between the subgroups of the PC group and Anus during sessions. Here's a quick read and how to:


http://www.webmd.com/urinary-incontinence-oab/kegel-exercises-treating-male-urinary-incontinence


The Male Deer exercise is a stimulation routine that some of us value during an Aneros session. Here's a quick read about it.


http://www.umaatantra.com/male_deer_exercise.html


My personal approach is to do the second phase gentle circular massaging of my Dan Tien (Navel Chakra) during a session to help generate or channel energy along the core chakras. I use my left hand for the male deer exercise which leaves my right hand free for nipple stim.


I don't abide by the 81 circle rule of QiGong. Just enough to establish the migration of energy from my prostate to the core. Sometimes I alternate Male Deer with a gentle Testicle tickle to restart or channel calm seas energy.


We have a few gifted gents in the Forum and Chat who use a Reiki (proximity) technique to build Dan Tien energy without actual physical contact of hands on the pelvic area.


Relaxed breathing is a must during this exerecise.

@rook, the male deer link doesn't work but this one does: http://www.umaatantra.com/male_deer_exercise.html

What's the 81 circle rule? Is that the number of rotations I do around my dan tien with my hand?

@euphemistic
I really don't know why 81 circles was chosen. Elsewhere I once read 84 circles. This is probably tied to spiritual mantra.

The Greek and Cypriot Worry Beads are usually odd in number, commonly a multiple of 4, plus one. Byzantine and Roman rosaries vary widely in number. Perhaps best to pose this question to a member of the Tao Bums who is well steeped in history.

The pattern of the circle, whether I use finger tips or the palm of my hand and how I season it with scrotum play and sync it to my breathing, prostate focus and nipple play seems to count far more than an arbitrary number.