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01/18/2011 6:46 pm
Hi,
I was watching the American talk-show Maury today - we get in in the UK too, great show - and a woman was on it. She was in the news recently for offering her virginity to the highest bidder for $275,000.
I was quite uneasy about that. First coz of moral judgement, but more importantly because she said it is for women's liberation or empowerment or whatever.
The way I see it, men are just fooking desperate. Men are like snivelling, begging, leechlike, pathetic, pitiable potential sex offenders, driven by their loins. And women know this.
I would have loved to explore this more, but I wanna squeeze in a session. Basically, if more men knew about the Aneros, I'm sure men's role, the perception of men, and our worth in society would grow and be more valued. We are ten a penny or a dime a dozen or a eurocent-a-euro???
A man could never auction off his virginity. Not to a woman anyway.
01/18/2011 8:49 pm
Come to Holland MyTurn, get yourself some good Polm hash, insert your Aneros and you'll understand how you can set yourself free from this female centred game. It's like youth is waisted on the young. Orgasms are waisted on females. Unlike men, their evolutionary strategy isn't so much focussed on sex as a goal in itself, they've naturally come to regard it as something they give the man, something they shouldn't give too cheaply.
Now, isn't the Aneros then the best of both worlds for the male. Having the male sexdrive AND the females' multiorgasmic potential without the moodswings and the periods and the inherent need for a 'quid pro quo' for having sex.
PUA is still supplicating, coz it's still working from the frame that you have to court the female, show your value/status etc so you 'crack'her natural program so she 'opens sesame'. In this game you win if you're a psycho-/or sociopath(Ross Jeffries'communicate with a goal in mind' i.e. don't get emotionally involved) or you lose if you get emotionally involved and start selling out your integrity and ideals in order to adapt to her world.
Aneros ( blend of ANER which is Greek for Male & EROS which in Greek methology was the God of Love) lets you know a female isn't doing you any favors, you can actually have a better orgasm on your own.
01/19/2011 3:11 pm
Helixer,
I've seen you express your opinion elsewhere that you find aneros-use to completely replace your desire to sleep with a woman. Although I've only started using one recently, I've found that I enjoy the aneros, but the interpersonal nature of sex with a woman is something that I could never give up. In fact, using the aneros has caused my sex drive overall to shoot up, making sex even more enjoyable.
I'd love to know how you came to feel this way, if you don't mind.
And I know this probably isn't the right place to discuss this, but I'd also like to know how you came to your opinion regarding "PUA" techniques. I say this as a man who has used "Game" to greatly improve my sex life.
Of course it gets a bad rap because of these douchebags: 
But if you look past all the stupid gimmicks and douchebaggery, I think it boils down to just a few principles that make a lot of sense. And it's really the opposite of supplicating yourself to a woman. Instead, you should approach a woman with the attitude that she[ has to prove herself to you. If you can communicate that you have an interesting life that she should want to be a part of, then a lot of the interaction afterwards plays itself out according to this script.
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01/19/2011 5:25 pm
PUA is still supplicating, coz it's still working from the frame that you have to court the female, show your value/status etc so you 'crack'her natural program so she 'opens sesame'.
It is better than the usual mentality that men have - but, yes, I agree with you. It is still trying to get something from her. Until it is a woman that is approaching the man to give him multiple orgasms, PUA is really a veiled attempt at getting a women to like him. I still watch, listen to, like, read, practice it though, lol, but I don't want a girlfriend at the moment. That would fuck up my Aneros journey. I really don't need a girlfriend ever, thanks to the Aneros. Maybe in my 30's, after I rewire! Sperm conservation with a girlfriend/wife must be a headfunk.
Aneros ( blend of ANER which is Greek for Male & EROS which in Greek methology was the God of Love) lets you know a female isn't doing you any favors, you can actually have a better orgasm on your own.
I thought it was AN(US) EROS (erotic) - not - AN (male, andro?) + EROS (erotic)? But yeh, we can. Women look great and can stir one's libido quicker than porn, but, but...BUT, the end result is her G spot pleasure and you giving that pleasure. It's starting to seem so outdated, cavemanish, desperate, needy.
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01/19/2011 5:30 pm
And it's really the opposite of supplicating yourself to a woman. Instead, you should approach a woman with the attitude that she[ has to prove herself to you. If you can communicate that you have an interesting life that she should want to be a part of, then a lot of the interaction afterwards plays itself out according to this script.
I feel the same as you. But I am starting to feel that the ultimate mentality, lifestyle, experiences to have where a woman really is surplus and has to gain your interest, time, etc, is if you can have a better time sexually without her. Then you are only going to talk to the HB10's, if that. lol!
01/19/2011 6:07 pm
It's threads like this that remind me of how lucky I am to be gay. Someone I can play video games with, sleep in with, use my Aneros with, and have sex with. 😀
01/19/2011 8:06 pm
I feel the same as you. But I am starting to feel that the ultimate mentality, lifestyle, experiences to have where a woman really is surplus and has to gain your interest, time, etc, is if you can have a better time sexually without her. Then you are only going to talk to the HB10's, if that. lol!
Brilliant! By this time next year I'll be sure to have tagged Keira Knightley and Megan Fox...at the same time!
01/20/2011 2:58 pm
I've seen you express your opinion elsewhere that you find aneros-use to completely replace your desire to sleep with a woman
Incorrect but maybe somewhere on your journey you'll learn that unlike in your PUA scene sex is NOT the endgoal, but only the beginning.As most users know the prostate gets tickled when aroused. We're wired to react to women, that's why erotic pictures and sound can 'start your engine'. The good thing about erotica vs the real thing is that once you're lauched you can just close your eyes and start exploring pleasures much more intense and fulfilling than just the sexual, where you in fact even have to let go of the sexual to experience mindblowing pleasure. With a partner this is near impossible unless of course you get alone time from your partner, have sex once every 2 weeks and the rest of the time watch Oprah together, talk fashion and glamour and go shopping together.
The intimacy and the sex is a small part of the total.
Also I think men would be fine with just sex and intimacy, that's our evolutionary strategy after all, but women are always planning ahead, living together, marriage, children etc coz that's their strategy.
(So how does PUA fit in here? To help you become sociopaths so you can just use and discard females when you please?)
IMO there's a big difference between longing/desiring and fantasy and the real thing. It's just like certain positions in porns are very arousing to watch but not so arousing when doing it yourself. I.e. the idea of sex is more arousing than the real thing. The idea of romance is better than the real thing.
Jung says men are looking for their anima(their female side) and project it onto the female, who of course isn't that coz she'd have to be male, and vice versa. Or as someone else noted "Pornography tells lies about women and the truth about men"
On your own you can have (and appreciate) a female orgasm thru DIRECT prostate stimulation lasting many many hours and with an intensity that's entirely up to yourself which is rightly termed a Super O
But we're naturally wired to enjoy sex as well. With Aneros you win both ways.
The question here however is how will the advent of the Aneros change the Game? or will there even be a game? or will those dragqueens and sycophants for puzzi finally discover that maybe they're exerting themselves a little too much? (meaning these guys are still adapting to the female coz they still see sex as the women giving something to the man so the man has to either have status or possessions to get)
You're right, supplicating is probably not the right word for pua, fawning is probably better, fawning like a dog , doing all kinds of tricks to get your bone.
I probably just have a different reaction when reading the Mystery Method, whereas you read it without deliberation, and take it as a given then that you will thus have to be that way if you want sex, so you have to display high social value(tribal leader) coz that's what women are wired to be attracted to. All it does for me is it makes women sink in my estimation of them. A woman attracted by this is repulsive to me, I don't care how beautiful she is
Some people have the same reaction with a millionaire having no trouble picking up women, or gangleaders.
But personally I would say good riddance to any woman that is attracted to that, as the attraction boils down to : "how can I use this man for the benefit of me and my kiddies?". If you have no selfrespect and just want to be used, go for it! Start adapting to the female and sell out.
(Interesting to note that both homosexuals and star pua guys sound, act and look almost identical, and both are good with women, the only way you could distinguish the two is pua sleep with women(and men) and homosexuals only with men).
If you have any selfrespect however, stay true to yourself, if a woman is attracted to YOU then great, if not, then at least your self-love is authentic
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01/20/2011 4:14 pm
It's threads like this that remind me of how lucky I am to be gay. Someone I can play video games with, sleep in with, use my Aneros with, and have sex with. 😀
I did all those things with my ex girlfriend. Including the Aneros (in me). She asked if it would turn me gay, I said No (coz technically it couldn't - I do think I may be a Kinsey..umm 2 out of 6 where 1 is hetero and 6 is homo, but that's beside the point), then she was cool with it. Admittedly, the Aneros+Sex was a FAIL, coz I hadn't even begun my journey at that time, but yes, a girl is cool to do all those things with!
01/21/2011 5:51 pm
I'd love to know how you came to feel this way, if you don't mind.
You want something personal, I'll give you something personal:"Never has Single felt so right!"
The guys at HIH have built toys that enable us to activate The God of Love Inside Man. (AN(ER)OS)
Outside is beyond your control but inside you're a God, extatic pleasure at your bequeathing, inside it's all up to you! Heaven or Hell? Pleasure or pain?
So what will it be fellas?, serfdom or extatic pleasure? More death or more life?
Buddhists believe in reincarnation. When you achieve Nirwana the cycle of life and rebirth has been superceded and there is ecstasy and an end to suffering.
IMO this is because the automatic animalistic nature has been transcended(the sexual) and we're free to explore ecstasy.
01/27/2011 5:02 pm
To summarize: I think the main difference between pua players and nirwaneroeosians is that:The former are needy for sex and fawn to prove their worthiness, while the latter will only forfeit their extatic pleasure if a women can make it worth his while..coz a woman in (desperate) need can be tempting indeed!
Only a Super E(go) can compensate for relinquishing a Super O
Needing to prove your worthiness and pandering to the female only defeats the purpose, only a women attracted to your selflove will enhance a Super E. A women attracted to a fawning travesty of yourself won't.
Ergo:be true to yourself pua out, Aneros IN!
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